Smiths Little Torch Oxy Propane Jewellers Torch Demo & Review in HD
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Jeweller Dave Wilson of www.celticdream... demonstrates the Smiths Little Torch kit for gas and oxygen.
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This was the first clear and succinct explanation I've encountered for why oxy and acetylene are used together. Now it makes a lot more sense. Thank you for this - finally my more basic questions are answered. : )
I hope it helps you make a more informed decision. Thanks for watching. Dave
You are a great teacher I felt that my father is the one is teaching me not just a regular teacher . You are awesome 🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
Very kind words. Thank you. Dave
Thanks, I was contemplating purchase of one for jewelry use. Looks just like what I needed.
I like to see people using things rather than just ordering and hoping for the best, your providing a real service. Thanks again.
Thank you very much for your kind comments. Dave.
The torch arrived today, and after careful assembly and checking for leaks, I put it through some basic soldering tasks...and am very pleased with the results! In the past, I used a micro butane torch for all of my work, but this torch delivers a hotter and more precise flame that will be very useful for the detailed work I do. With refillable butane torches, one of the biggest complaints was how the temperature dropped off midway through my soldering tasks, forcing me to stop and refill the gas. Of course, with an oxygen torch it's always hot, and the large-capacity oxy/propane tanks mean a more consistent flame over a day's work and more consistent solder joints. Thanks Dave for the recommendation! I trust your product reviews, because I get excellent results with these tools.
The Smith's is a great torch. Do look at the casting nozzle a great addition. ! Dave. ruclips.net/video/uNTDAJXHY9U/видео.html
@@CelticDreamsCoUk thank you...what choice psi ratio...propane to oxygen ?
Loved the sound of the birds in the background "so peaceful"
If you haven't seen it already, check out part of this video below. I think you'll like it. Dave ; )
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That's awesome Dave, I don't have that much bird sounds around me living in more of a city location of Southern California USA but suburban enough that every once in a while they come in and when I hear them all singing, I do the same thing...I stop working, sit down on a lounge chair, have a cup of tea and just take it all in. Something so satisfying with it. I think I need to go buy some bird feeders today to help draw more in more often :) Awesome clip with the bird bud and keep up the great vids.
nah, birds suck
Hiya, your commentaters are spot on, the tread only holds the parts together and therefore use no tape!!! If on other types of connector the treads do provide the seal use P.T.F.E. tape from a yellow reel not blue, yellow is for gas, blue for water.Thank you for a good demo...
Thanks for watching.Dave
Hi Dave thanks for a great video. You explained everything nicely so anyone could understand. I've been silversmith in for 15 yrs but am just now trying out the little torch. I'm excited so I'm here learning how to use it safely. Thanks again.
Just a small safety point. But many people have comment that you shouldn't use standard PTFE tape on gas connectors. They shouldn't need anything at all. Worth acknowledging. Dave.
Dave thanks for the demo of the little torch now I know how to adjust the fire and the oxegen thank you Dave.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. Dave
I got one a while back. Your video reminded me to check into different nozzles for different purposes.
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching. Dave
Excellent demonstration. I have several students that are owners of this torch, but have yet to light them! This may be just the ticket to getting them up and running! :)
Jean pSmith Thanks, Once set up you don't have to worry about it. It's a great little torch, as you will see on many of my videos. the precisions is great for my work. I use it in the "how to solder" video. Thanks for the kind words. Dave.
This is probably the top tool I need an upgrade. I'm currently using a butane micro-torch for soldering and a bigger one for annealing. No doubt, a small, very hot flame would save me some soldering trouble I'm experiencing. Great video and looks like the product I will probably buy to do this job. That I can run propane over a more wonky gas like acetylene is a plus too. Thanks!
I use the casting nozzle for annealing. I currently run the torch with an Oxygen generator. So very cheap to run. Dave
great idea! If I can find a used oxygen generator...that will be a good long-term solution. For now, I got a cheap bottle of Oxygen at a welder's shop.
Thanks so much for your sharing Dave. I recently posted a question which you responded to but there was a broken link on the notification email back to the thread on RUclips to where our conversation was happening. "Not sure what you mean by "rules". The normal soldering rules allays apply, clean, will fitting and well fluxed. If using 12ct yellow gold then you'd use the same solder 12ct yellow, either strip, wire or paste. Gold tends to heat up faster than silver does, so a little more care with the heat is needed. But apart from that its just the same. Just match the colour and carat of the solder to the metal you are using. Hope this helps. Dave" this was your reply. Thanks so much, this information is very useful 👍
You're welcome. Dave.
Very helpful as I make a difficult decision on the purchase of my first torch! Thank you :) Also, your accent is adorable :) Made it even more fun to watch. Thank you thank you!
Thank you! 😃 You must be in the USA, Americans seem to love my English accent. Thanks for watching. Dave
Hehe, not American. Canadian! In any case, excited as you helped me in my decision making.
I was thinking, straighten the red hose, straighten the red hose.
Interesting video, not seen one on the smiths little torch before, so very useful. Thanks.
Thanks. Dave
Hi Guys, just a little safety point....
BOC (British oxygen company) Do not recommend the use of "standard" ptfe tape on the "oxygen" lines.
"Standard PTFE tape contains oil; oxygen reacts violently with oil and may spontaneously burn with an explosive force. BOC does not recommend the use of PTFE or other thread sealing components in conjunction with any gas cylinder valves or regulators." www.boconline.co.uk
Whilst I've never heard of anyone blowing themselves up with a roll of ptfe tape, it would be remiss of me not to pass on this official guidance.
I believe you can get green ptfe tape which has no oil in it (suitable for oxygen). As far as I know quality PTFE gas tape white or yellow, should be fine with the propane if you do need it. (unless someone has evidence to the contrary).
But if your connectors are correctly fitting and in sound condition, then you shouldn't really need anything at all. Vice versa, if your connectors are leaking then there's something wrong, so replace them accordingly.
Also the soapy water trick, to check for leaks was actually told to me by a plumber. Obviously it works, but is a bit of a no-no from professional gas people, again for the above reason of oils in the soap. Its a small point, but the recommended solutions are "Snoop" or "Teepol " to check for leaks.
Ask your local welding supplier if you are unsure.
Thanks for watching !
Take care guys. Dave.
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Interesting about the soap. I was actually taught to spray soapy water in my welding classes, so it must not be too bad.
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You are such a helpful and reliable source of information Dave. Thanks again!
+Frances Winyard .....Thanks Frances. I hope I inspire you to have a go and try new things. The biggest obstacle to many is simply fear. I was in that position too. So hopefully I have encouraged a few people to get stuck in. Dave ; )
You made this so simple and thorough. Thank you so much! Definitely subscribing!
Thanks. Do note the many comments though about not using tape on the gas threads. Note too I have also made a video on the oxygen generator and on the multi jet nozzle for this torch. see below. Dave
Oxygen Concentrator ruclips.net/video/M-3gHI8a1YY/видео.html
Smith multi jet casting nozzle ruclips.net/video/uNTDAJXHY9U/видео.html
Thanks for taking the time to make this video... Very helpful...
Thanks. Note the comments here though about not using ptfe tape. Thanks for watching. Dave
I made the mistake of getting the kit without the regulators (currently $100 NZ each), it did come with the fittings for the disposable canisters but I've found, unless you don't need to do much, they're the expensive option (here $30 NZ for oxy if available and $45 NZ for propane). Yes buying 2 sets will equal the regulator price, the other problem here is nobody (unless your commercial) refill standard bottles and you can't own your own as the others work on an exchange program. I think even the smallest bottle would last me my lifetime for the amount I use. Thanks for the great review/tutorial.
Yes the small cans are expensive. Rent free bottles are the best option for most users.Paying for refills. But as you say, you need to find somewhere that does this, like a welding supplier. Thanks for watching, Dave
Your accent is spectacular.
Thank you. Northern English. Dave.
GOOD REVIEW, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF YOUR VIDEOS.
I appreciate that! Dave
The flash arrestor is completely not needed It takes an air fuel mixture of 2.5%-9.5% anything out side of that range is not flammable and will not burn, because the only thing in your tank is propane it is too rich to burn without introduce oxygen to it (Puncturing the tank or filling a tank with a mixture of propane and oxygen) Now acetylene on the other hand takes No oxygen at all to burn and there is a ton of tech in the bottle to keep it from self destruction a flash arrestor makes sense here.
True the propane is only dangerous when mixed with oxygen. So the chance of a flame tracking down the tiny propane line is somewhat doubtful. But I do feel safer having the arrestors just in case some bizzare disaster should ever occur. Thanks for the input. Appreciated. Dave
Nice. I used one of these torches decades ago working with a silversmith in NYC. Time for me to get one. Thanks, and I subscribed, USA!
Thanks for the sub! and thanks for watching. Dave
Hi Dave, thanks for taking the time to make and post this :)
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.Dave
Hello Dave, thanks for the video. I have bought one of these torches. I intend to use for for oxycetylene. I took it to a local gas supplier shop and he informed me that the connectors are American size (imperial) not metric (it clearly is as its an American company who made it) so aren't technically 'safe'. Seeing your vid has made me think I'll risk it though.
Mine just goes straight on to my regulators. I believe they make USA and UK versions with different threads. But either way, Just get an adopter if you need one. Dave.
great video! all the information i was looking for. thank you!
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Dave.
PTFE tape is only needed on pipe threads where the threads are your seal. With the type of connection that is on the lines, the threads aren't the seal. The threads only hold the tapered brass piece that is directly affixed on the gas lines. This is where it seals. Placing tape on the threads will only make is more difficult to tighten. It will do absolutely nothing to seal. If you have gas seeping at the threads check for nicks or debris on or between the brass piece on the hose and the inward taper that is at the end of the connection on the regulator. Fix it there not at the threads.
+David H
Thanks David. That makes a lot of sense. Its not the threads that provide the gas seal, it's the end of the connector. A very useful insight. As jewellers we are simply end users of this equipment and information is very lacking. So thanks for that. Dave.
+David H Thanks for mentioning that, you saved me from having to mention it! It seems to me that most people who don't really know what they are doing with plumbing and gas fitting seem to think, "thread tape will fix it"... I have peeled kilometers of the stuff from threads in inappropriate applications where some inexperienced person has made the leak worse by thinking ,"thread tape will fix it".. Please people, inspect the design and principal of the union before applying tape.
on the other hand I have found many plumbing connections tightened so much that the pipes actually broke off in the fitting but had no sealant of any kind on the threads. Its just a matter of experience and having the right instruction.
Don't ever use pipe tape, it's a lubricant and not meant to seal. It's meant to assist tightening the tapered joint which is designed to be self sealing. Guess you never held a certificate of fitness from the fire department to operate torches legally. Even the booklet that accompanies a new set of torches states it!
Just a point I was told, by a manufacturer, while researching torches and gas welding! You should never use an acetylene regulator with propane, the gauge which shows how much gas is left in the bottle does not work with liquid gases so is useless as it will read full for the whole time until it is empty then it will simply read empty which is why propane regulators only ever come with one gauge which shows the output pressure, but the most dangerous is the membrane which is inside the regulator which, if designed for acetylene, will deteriorate with propane causing leakage with is much more dangerous than acetylene as propane is heavier than air and will collect and sit causing a possible explosion when next igniting the torch!I just felt I should pass this info on to yourself as would not want anything bad to happen to you! I did however enjoy your video!
Thanks for that info and taking the time to share. The issue for jewellers is that it's almost impossible to find Propane regulators with gauges on. I guess most propane users are campers, Patio heaters and gas barbecues etc where the exact pressure doesn't need to be that precise. Professional welders tend to use acetylene. So i guess there isn't much of market for precise propane regulators as it's only really jewellers who use propane for fine soldering. hence why most jewellers I know use acetylene regulators on their propane tanks. it's really down to the suppliers who sell the torches. They should really sell an appropriate regulator i.e. with gauges (not available in the case of certain UK jewellery supplier). Thanks for the input. Dave.
In the States we use yellow PTFE tape for gas fuels. White tape is for water only. But, like the other person said, tape is not used for compression fittings.
Correct. If you need tape, then your fittings have a problem. Dave
Thanks for posting the video, I've got a few small projects and just got a mini, it's good starter video and just exactly what I needed.
Thanks. glad to have helped. But do note the many comments though about NOT using PTFE tape on the gas connectors. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk : yeah, I saw those posts on the tape, what's the deal with the tape? Does it cause an explosion? Or is it a mini welder purist ideology? Like never go beyond the minimum.
The theory is, that the tape is made from plastic, which is made from oil and so under pressure could burst into flames. I admit it sounds crazy and I have never heard of anyone blowing themselves up with tape. But there you go, the official rule is you don't use tape on gas fittings. A more common sense reason is simply that you shouldn't need to. Gas fittings seal at the ends, not with the threads. So if there is a leak then the fitting is not properly attached or is perhaps damaged. If its not gas tight then there's a problem with the fitting. So I do agree with that. Thanks for watching. Dave
No need for tape if your using proper gas fittings. It doesn't seal though the threads.
Quite correct, as some others have noted. Official guidance is not to use tape at all with gas lines. Thanks for watching. Dave.
Tape works; Iv'e been doing the same for 50 years .Not all connectors are perfect and jewellers use very low pressure settings. If it passes the soapy water test then it is good to go.I would be more concerned with making sure the hoses are in good order.
Very impressive presentation.
Kudos!
- Saskatchewan, Canada
Thank you very much! Dave
I recomend it too. I use it since 25 year ago. It's fantastic. Great tool.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, appreciated. Dave
★ I wish Petrogen would make a little torch like this. Petrogen torch uses regular pump gasoline and oxygen. I used to be a dealer and sold units to scrap yards. The torch tip stays cool to the touch, but it can cut better than anything on the market! 1 gallon of gasoline is equal to one large tank of acetylene.
Thanks. I've never heard of those. One to research. Dave
Thanks so much for this...very useful for me as I've never used oxygen.
Glad it was helpful! Dave
I haven't read through all the comments, but for the latecomers here's a fact. Any gas connection that has notched coupling nuts is >left-hand threads
Thanks for that, great tip look for the notches. Thanks Dave
I like the video plus the sound of a beautiful bird behind the video👍👍
Thank you. check out this clip for a special guest appearance... Dave ruclips.net/video/bf0DPhzy7S4/видео.html
Great information, Thanks Dave
Glad it was helpful! Dave
Real nice and simple, so to speak...I have a hobby in silver jewelry and do some welding from time to time... And I would like to pick one up, to see if it will be helpful... What I have been using is my good old plumbing propane tank, not to mention the bulk it has, but work just the same, and so I needed to see just what this has to offer before I do buy it... You seem to have resolve it for me, so for that I thank you Sir....If there is any more info on this that you may have I will be happy to hear it...Thks again...JRC
I hope you found the video helpful. Any questions just ask and I will try my best to help. Dave.
Great demo!
Thanks. Dave
the accent is amazing and iam sure the work will be outstanding
North England. Thanks for watching. Dave.
I'm very much interested to buy this set
Thanks for watching. Dave
I hate the little torch. The flame is hard to control and the nuzzles are all minuscule. I also don't like how you need both hands or a stand to change your flame. I know it's more expensive, but I prefer the Meco midget torch. It can handle bigger flames as well as tiny ones. The nuzzles are easy to modify. You can change your flame with the same hand that's holding the torch which allows to adjust it in the middle of an operation. Could you do a video comparing noth models?
I must disagree. The first thing I would say is do you own a "genuine" little torch as there are many chinese fakes on the market. Nine came direct from the USA manufacturer. The flames are not miniscule they vary up to some very big flames with the large nozzles. There is also a casting nozzle which can melt several ounces of silver in minutes (see my video on it). The torch is "very" precise and controllable, way more than similar models I have used. As for changing the flame with two hands, that is just like any other torch.I am not familiar with the Meco Midget. Dave
Good video help me a lot to understand
Glad it helped Thanks for watching,Dave
very good. i am from Bhutan. i am working as a silver smith instructor in institute
+Lungten Wangdi Thanks
Very helpful, this information was just what I was looking for, thanks so much!!
Jenny Näslund Thanks, this is exactly why I made it. many people want a torch, but don't understand what is involved. Do read my note about using the correct type of thread tape. Officially, There are different tapes for gas and oxygen.
Glad you liked it. Many thanks of your feedback. Dave
PTFE is probably not the way to go. Just clean the seats. sealing the thread with PTFE tape does not prevent gas from leaking from where the nut meets the hose. (I see others have already made notes about this)
Yes indeed, You are absolutely correct. I intend to remake the video at some point (without ptfe). Thanks for watching. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk I see others have already made the comment. Thank you for taking the time to reply anyway.
I understand that the threads on the outlet of regulators for refilable cylinders differ from country to country. 3/8 x 19 tpi in the UK and 5/8 x 18 tpi in Australia. Regulators for disposable cylinders generally are 9/16 x 18 tpi. Some of the retailers of Smith little torches on ebay list the various thread types depeding on your desired setup..
All the best.
+labrat7357 Yes indeed, They do differ. An important point when buying gas equipment off the internet. It's important to match everything up. Thanks for your comments. Dave.
Very helpful, thank you! I received this as a Christmas gift and the instructions really lacked in the different items I would need to get it set up to use.
Thanks for the comments. I'm glad you found it useful. I am also hoping to make a video on the large casting nozzle. Thanks for watching. Dave.
Why do you use the silicon tape. Some people do not recommend this practise. Reasons
Correct, many people have mentioned that. if the connectors are sound then you shouldn't need anything at all. Dave
Very helpful and clear, thank you.
Thanks for watching.Dave
Do not put Teflon tape on the threads. This will not prevent leaks and may make it worse. The seal is made between the male end of the brass barb and the female end of the brass fitting. A scratch on these surfaces will cause a leak.
Thanks, as many others have said. Dave.
My set came with Propalene.. what’s the difference with this from Butane, Propane and Oxy?
Never seen it before
Thanks in advance
Butane is lighter gas. You can't really use it with the smiths torch. Some torches just use Propane, the smith uses propane and oxygen, this allows a smaller hotter flame. Dave
You’re knowledgeable person. Quite impressed!
Thank you, Very kind. Dave
Why are you using an Acetylene regulator with Propane?
Yes, that's correct. The reason is, it's almost impossible to get propane regulators with gauges. I guess most people that use propane use it for DIY, camping and barbecues etc so dont need fancy regs. It's only jewellers that require propane with accuracy, so perhaps a limited market. Hence they are very hard to find and ridiculously expensive if you do see them. I did check with friends, colleagues and many jewellery forums and it seems everyone has the same problem and everyone i know uses acetylene regs which are readily available and cheap with the dual gauges on. I appreciate there are those that will say we shouldn't do that, but Mine has worked perfectly for many years, with no issues.Dave
Nice job 👍
Thanks for watching.Dave
I got the answer to obtaining oxygen tank in the comments below. Thanks.
No problem. Dave
Hi! I hope you are fine... I finished setting up my acetylene/oxy torch, and I am struggling a bit with the lighting.... there is a lot of soot when I light the acetylene, and many times when I open the oxy, even a little, I get a small explosion at the tip and the flame goes out. Can you help me?
I've never used acetylene. Check the instructions and make sure you've got the pressure right on your regulators. Especially important with the smaller nozzles, too much pressure and they instantly blow themselves out as soon as you open the torch. So try backing them off a bit. Remember also to bleed to hoses if you haven't used them for a while. just open each tap on the torch for a few seconds before you light it, to flush out any air in the pipe. Hope this helps. Dave
Hi dave can i use these for brazing with silicon bronze rod for fixing motorcycle and bicycle tubes
The torch simply supplies heat. So yes, any brazing or soldering. But be aware of the size here. Depending on what you are doing you may want something bigger, such as as the Sievert propane torch. Dave
Hello, I’ve been looking for an alternative torch to my sievert and mini propane versions. Your video was great thanks. One question is where to you get the oxygen tanks and how do you refil them please? 🙏
Here in the UK there is chain of suppliers called "Hobby weld" at various welding suppliers. you buy a cylinder and then just pay for refills (swaps). for the small home studio this is cheaper than paying contracts with big suppliers. There are other companies too that do this. Google your local welding suppliers. They should also be able to fix you up with regulators and flashback arrestors, mine did, all sorted in one shop. Hope this helps. Dave
Are in UK. What's the size of thread on both connectors..
Greetings Brother. ; ) Two pre-fitted 3/8" valves i believe. Standard fittings for UK gas regulators and flashback arrestors. Dave
Hi Dave, very informative thank you. But what type of regulator do I need to get for this type of set up.
Oxygen regulator, and propane regulator. Ideally with gauges to help set the pressure and see when the tanks are empty. Oxygen are fairly easy to get, but most propane gauges are just for camping and bbq's. It's hard to find propane regulators with gauges. For this reason, myself, my colleagues in the trade, and everyone I have spoken to on forums "ALL" use acetylene regulators on their propane bottles. Im sure there are some purists who will say you shouldn't do that. But I haven't blown myself up yet, and they work fine. Hope this helps. Dave
Great review!
Many thanks. Best wishes Dave.
I know it won't be the same but I was wondering, could this flashlight work with compressed air instead of oxygen? Use for small brazing, not for jewelry.
it needs pure oxygen, either bottles for from an oxygen concentrator (Oxy / fuel). An alternative is the Sievert professional torch kit (with a needle flame nozzle). This only uses propane, and utilises the oxygen in the air (Gas & air). So simpler and cheaper to run, but not quite the heat or fine flame as the smiths. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk Thanks
Great video, you made it seem so simple.
The problem I’m having is in sourcing the extras. I’m looking at conning...I mean persuading... my husband to buy me a Smiths Little Torch for my next 10 years-worth of birthdays. I’ve found the TB40 kit but the regulators and flashback arrestors are adding £100 on to the price. Is that normal, or can I get them from a DIY shop? Any pointers as to where? Hopeless and confused about the whole oxy-pro setup. If I didn’t hate the pathetic weakness of my Versaflame so much, I’d give up. Thanks!
The simple answer is wherever you get your oxygen and propane bottlers from, just ask them for a set of regulators. I get mine from my local welding supplier, along with Argon for my pulse welder. I just asked the guys to add the appropriate regulators. usually you will have to buy them, but some companies rent you the bottles pre fitted with the regulators too. So basically just look up your nearest welding suppliers, and they will be able to sort you out. Hope this helps. Dave
from what I can see your Oxygen tank comes already with a regulator, am I right?
You can get Oxygen cylinders for use at home from "Medical suppliers" (for people with breathing problems). These medical bottles have regs built-in. I had a 'supplier' and used these for years. with a simple hose adapter, perfectly fine. I now use Oxygen from a local welding supplier and I use a normal regulator with them. Dave
Can you please give me the link where to buy this torch
I have no idea what country you are even in. But you can buy in the USA from the link below. Dave
pepetools.com/discount/CELTIC?redirect=/products/basic-smith-little-torch-all-fuels-system-with-five-tips-us-british-australian?aff=4
You can improve torch performance and keep the copper nozzles from heating too much by soldering short piece of vets hypodermic needle into the tip of the nozzle.
Not sure what you mean by "heating too much". The Smith nozzles have rubies in the tips which are drilled with lasers.They are very, very precise. You get a range of sizes in the kit and the torch is very controllable. So I'm not sure what you'd hope to achieve by adding a needle. The tips are perfect as they are. Dave.
@@CelticDreamsCoUk I've been a high end jeweller for over 50 years . I first tried this with the Phoenix torch as used by Cartier for many years ,so I thought I would try it with the Smiths .It works for me. Try it then tell me what you think , some of my jobs take hours to do ,resetting a flame every time you use it I don't think is a good idea .Regards Ed.
Hi! Nice guide! What happens if you connect the gases in opposit order? Is the color of hoses only for indication? (I have a truble with the counterclockwise fitting on gas hose!!!)
It's not possible to connect the gas to the oxygen etc as they use different threads, one opposite to the other. They are made this way, for this reason so you can't connect them the wrong way round. Dave
Is it possible to attach soldering tips for circuitry ?
No, that not what it made for, way too hot. Dave
Nice tool and vidéo.thanx for sharing
My pleasure. Thanks for watching. Dave
Good job
Thank You. Dave
No, No, No. NO do not use PTFE tape on this type of connection.....
yes indeed. You're not the first to mention it. I intend to edit and re-upload the video accordingly. Thanks for watching. Dave
Hello. I'm interested in purchasing this kind of mini torch........i want to know how many bar of oxygene should i use........for welding on my bench......
It depends on the nozzle that you are using but 2 to 8 PSI. same for fuel. so thats 0.1 to 0.5 bar approximately. You can check out the manual (page 24) here below. Dave
sep.yimg.com/ty/cdn/yhst-59168529959315/Littletorchinstructions.pdf
@@CelticDreamsCoUk thanks for the info! Keep creating beautiful jewellery!
Why would you use thread tape on a tapered seat fitting?
You wouldn't. As others have pointed out. You shouldn't really use PTFE tape on gas fittings. it is not needed, as the seal is created by the brass. If it does leak, then there is a problem with the valve. Thanks for watching. Dave
Wonder if they make little cutting heads for these things.
I'm not sure how a cutting head would vary from the normal heads. But you can certainly use this with acetylene. Dave
Thanks, great video. It was exactly I needed to know.
Glad it was helpful! Dave
Good video, thank you.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. Dave.
Very informative, thanks
Thanks for watching. Dave
You shouldn't use plumbers tape on brass gas fittings.
Indeed - as many others have noted. Dave
Great informative video mate, any idea if the cheap Chinese knock offs are any good at all? I want that torch model but I'm just starting out and I have had to cut some budget areas to afford alot of the things I require and the torch is one area. I need a torch now and I'm going to buy the cheap ebay model of the little torch, I will upgrade to the real thing later if I sell some jewellery; hopefully
IF you need a budget model then just a get a butane chef's type torch. Perfectly suitable for small jewellery. if you want a larger version then look at a Sievert kit with a needle flame, this simply uses a propane bottle, fairly cheap and cheerful. Hope this helps. Dave
Shaun.
You do get "cheap Chinese knock-offs" . I got one 3 years ago off ebay in a kit which included adjustable regulators and flame arrestors. I haven't had any trouble with it. I use it with acetylene because I inherited the bottles from my Dad.
BTW : The ones on ebay with blue oxygen knobs are clones, the genuine article has a green oxygen knob.
Very nicely shown in the tutorial, but the use of PTFE tape for this type of connector is improper because the sealing of the connector takes place on the rounded end of the nozzle, not on the thread.
Correct, as a few plumbers have mentioned. I am looking to update the video in accordance with these recommendations. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Dave
I have been doing exactly the same for over 50 years and have never had a problem.What inexperienced users need to realise is that jewellers use very low pressure settings and also the connectors are not always perfect, especially if they are foreign made .If the seal passes the soapy water test it is good to go.
Great video thank u for being so thorough.
+Eklektyk Poppy You're welcome. Dave.
Hi Dave, can I ask if you know which gas I can use at home? (UK rented property) Thanks
If you want a Smith little torch then you will need propane and oxygen. You can get a Sievert torch which just uses propane. But if you are not allowed compressed gas tanks due to insurance, then your best option is Butane (lighter gas) torches such as the Chef's Creme Brûlée torches.
@@CelticDreamsCoUk but can you use butane and oxygen with Smith's little? I'm fed up refilling 🥴
No the smiths uses propane (or acetylene) and Oxygen. Dave
can you do brazing, fixing bicycles
yes certainly. It's more than hot enough for any brazing rods. Technically what we jewellers call soldering, is really more like silver braising. Dave
Do you think It would be possible to use this torch only with butane? I don't know if It would be able to fuse silver without oxygen.
And, if you think It is possible, would I have to put something at the end or the begining of the oxygen uptake?
The torch is designed for oxygen and fuel. It can use most fuels, with the correct hose adapter, such as propane, or acetylene. Not sure about butane. But either way, you still need oxygen. either bottled or from an oxygen concentrator. Dave
can an air compressor be used instead of an oxygen bottle that you buy in the store is there a difference?
No. normal air is mainly nitrogen which does not burn. So compressed air is of no use to the torch as it needs oxygen. You can however get oxygen generators, which is what I use. check out my video...Dave. ruclips.net/video/M-3gHI8a1YY/видео.html
Does the oxygen regulator need a gauge as well?
(Best smith little torch video..subscribed :) )
+spike sworth ....Yes you need adjustable regulators with gauges for both. Note the pink sheet of paper with the pressures on. too much and the flame will blow out, especially with the smaller nozzles. So its vital to get the gas and oxygen pressure just right. In my case the oxygen gauge is pre fitted into the end of the cylinders. (Medical oxygen tanks). Dave.
I wonder if you can use those for welding aluminum.
Not something I have ever tied. I understand that torch welding aluminium (your'e in the UK), can be a tricky thing as it must be kept clean to prevent oxidisation. But no reason why the torch cant provide the heat. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk I'm actually in the US in California, the flag is the Mississippi state flag from where I was born. (My dad is ex US Air Force... retired Master Sargent.. disabled) I just think those torches should have a good amount of control over the heat compared to a normal gas welding tip. The most expensive part is probably the low pressure regulators though. The big thing for me would be that it'd be a way to weld aluminum without needing to invest in an incredibly expensive AC capable TIG welder as those go for about $2000US.. about 1500£ and I already have gas cylinders.
Hi Dave, Where do you purchase an oxygen talk?
+Annie Briggs Huntington .... look for local welding suppliers. Dave.
Can I use this torch to weld a nut on snapped or broken off steel bolt ?
I dont tend to work with steel, but I would have thought that Acetyline would be required for torch welding steel. Not really my area, but as far as i know TIG or mig is the usual method of welding steel. Hope this sort of answers your question. Dave
En que plataforma me recomiendan comprarlo? Soy de Sudamérica.
Pepetools.com. Dave
Thanks for the informative video, Dave. I wanted to ask, how many hours does the gas bottle and oxygen last, and what signs will you find when you need to refill/replace bottles? Thanks.
Difficult to say how long a bottle will last. When I’m soldering small chains, then I use a tiny flame, but casting uses a huge flame and a lot more oxygen and fuel. That said, my Smith’s little torch is extremely economical. When the oxygen is running out, it will go quickly. The flame will turn from a sharp blue point and start to go bushy and yellow, as the oxygen stops. I now use an oxygen concentrator, so don’t actually use the bottle any more, but I always keep a bottle just in case. I got about six months out of my first bottle with light use soldering every few days. Hope this helps. Dave
ah, okay. Six months is great. Thanks, Dave :)
So nearly a year on from using this torch, are you still happy using it? Are there any down sides to owning this torch in your year of experience with it? I am trying to decide between this torch with LPG or the German Precision Torch. Right now I am using an Orca with LPG, but am looking to upgrade. Thank you :)
+Little Cherry Hill - Metalsmith ....Great question Cherry. and yes indeed, I am happier than ever with it. Previously I had a British version of it, but that was very sensitive. the Smith's has far more control over the gas and 02 with a smooth action to the valves. As you may observe from my latest video (sixpence coin ring), I made the whole ring with hard solder. This could only be done with precise soldering and control of the heat. I don't think this would have been possible with any other torch.
That said, you may also note my casting nozzle video, where I use the torch to melt 3 oz of silver in just a few minutes. There is a reason why it's such a popular torch - it's brilliant. you wont regret it.
The Orca too is a great torch. But as at the start of my video, the little Orca is a gas and air so limited to tip size and temperature. The Smiths is a lot more versatile in its range of flame size, temp and control.
Thanks for watching. Dave.
Hi Dave. You sound like a fellow Lancastrian.
I thought you had to have a permit for Acetylene...
Indeed. I live in Morecambe, but my accent is Wigan. I believe you are supposed to "tell" your local authority if you have acetylene, but I don't think you actually need a permit for it. I use propane which is easily obtainable. Acetylene is only really needed if you are working with Platinum. From what I read on welding forums, you should tell the local fire brigade so they can log its location in case of a fire nearby. You should also have a sign on your shed garage to show there is gas in there..
Incidentally I live on a holiday park, so every home already has 2 X 47kg of propane, add to that my jewellery propane, oxygen, and argon for the welder. A fire at my home could blow Morecambe off the map. Still… no great loss there! But as for your home insurance...good luck! Dave
How to order
I have no idea where in the world you are so I cant offer much help. Mine came from Cooksongold.com Dave
Helpful, thank you
Thanks for watching. Dave
Check out the multi jet casting & melting nozzle.
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A question, can I to use air compressed instead of oxigen ?
No. Some torches do use air, but this require fuel (propane, or acetylene) and oxygen.An alternative is to purchase an oxygen concentrator, which makes oxygen from the air. This is what I use now, see link .Dave
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@@CelticDreamsCoUk thank you,
Hello, where did you find an adjustable regulator with such low outlet pressures ?
For what? the oxygen regulators are readily available from any welding supplier. As for the propane, yes they are difficult to come by, as most propane users are for camping, DIY and barbecues. It's only really jewellers who need accurate propane regulators. You can get propane regs with gauges but they are ridiculously expensive. That said, I do what everyone else I know and have spoken to on forums does.... I use Acetylene regulators on the propane, which are readily available. Yes there will be internet experts out there who will shout that you cant do that, and some technical reason why not. But Ive always done this for years, as do my colleagues in the trade and people i have spoken to on forums. They work fine and I have blown anything up yet. hope this helps. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk Hes talking about the Medical oxy bottle you are using. You will not be buying any compatible regulator from any shop you mention for that particular bottle