You Have Been Getting The Takeaway Wrong All This Time - Driver Golf Swing Lesson
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- In this golf swing lesson, a real student reveals a new takeaway that is not helping their golf swing and making the driver a tough club to hit.
Mark Crossfield and the JD Golf Academy team use Gears Golf to measure the student in 3D space, revealing that we may have been looking at the takeaway wrong for many years.
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Woe… this was kind of trippy. Who would’ve thought such a small move like that would put those hands in that angle. Cool stuff Mark! Thanks for the little insight there…and what a difference!
Mark, this is eye opening. 3D is the way to go if you really want to improve your golf swing. Assuming you have someone who knows how to use it correctly and knows what they're talking about. Cheers.
Thank you once again Mark and Joe…my swing looks soooo bad! Another awesome session and really eye-opening to see/discuss the swing in 3D. I hate the look of my swing at the top…always have, it’s the one thing I feel really does hold me back with consistency and now it’s obvious why! I will be drilling this as often as I can…looking forward to seeing the ‘needle move’! A few days after filming this, I shot my best ever round!
Great stuff Mark. It is eye-opening data isn't it?
You're a very good student, took to the changes very well 👏
How did you get a lesson with mark?
This is wonderful content. Great combination of using tech to get real data and then human coaching to work out the feels to get into positions to improve contact and face control.
Great lesson, really helped visualise how the body and arms move in the swing.
Was also very surprised to see my local course, that equipment is incredible to use and guys there are great teachers! 100% recommend.
Fantastic. Your content is 🔥
From watching your first video with Mark, this made me check out JD Golf Academy. It's a 2hr drive, but I went there, loved the lesson and have booked onto their silver package for numerous lessons with this - fingers crossed they help me get down from a 15hcap to something better. Got the 2nd of these 2hr sessions booked in August. Thanks for showing me this! Exciting stuff
How good are they ?
@@mattbreese1 very! (so far)
This is the way to go, great stuff.
Superb video, great explanation 👌🏼
Going to the range and incorporate the one hand drill into my practice routine.
Fantastic video!
It would be interesting to see how 3D made a difference in the lesson from what is taught in the 2D world. In other words, what would this lesson have looked like if the instructors had “traditional” tools only.
If this was available nearer I would go in a flash
Mark, I’m a 14 Handicap. I struggle with everything described in this video. I watched this video last night and this morning twice. I went out and shot a 77 today. My lowest round ever. I had 33 putts, so I can honestly say if I was putting better, I would have shot a 73/74. Thank you so much for this video.
Does this guy in the lesson get a discount if you film? £200 for a lesson on the plates
Very interesting but Victor hovland has this move ,,, makes me wonder 🤔
What is making you wonder?
Well Freddie couples, Eamon Darcy, Victor hovland all swing way out side on the way back and they were all winners at the highest level so is your position at the top that important,way I see the golf swing is can you control club face at impact for me nothing else matters
@@davidfinn9828 I mean you can swing it however you like as long as you have the ability to compensate for the moves you're doing. As many people suffer with a slice most people can't correct themselves so teaching them the more optimal simpler moves is going to be more efficient for them.
@@davidfinn9828 Hovland's hands do not disconnect and do not move towards the ball on his takeaway. He may swing a bit out to in with his driver, but he is getting there from a shallowed position.
That's a great point , so what gets him there in the first place ,???
If I was this guy I'd be more confused. Hands here hands there stuck here stick there.😅😅😅
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Have been trying to explain this to playing partners who slice and come over the top.
This is all so confusing.
Some things are confusing. Some confusing things are worth learning. Like the piano. Or a language. Maybe cooking.
The student learned about their swing. That hopefully wasn’t confusing but if it was then sorry for that confusion 👍
Too complicated and a lot of a snake oil!
Haha haha 😂
When I was kid in the 1950s I saw a brilliant demonstration of golf physics on TV, a trick shot artist named ‘Count Yogi’ who was hitting powerful dead straight golf shot with a club head attached to the end of a leather bull whip. Later as an adult I did the same thing with a club head attached to grip with and linked chain and figured out how to do it.
The key to keeping the whip straight is to always having the mass of the club pulling on the hands with the hands resisting in the backswing and then reverse that in the downswing with the hands always pulling against the inertia of the club head mass. The difficult part is how to change direction at the top and the solution is simple: a bit of side bend to the trail side just before the top of the backswing which causes the hands to pull down against the force of the club head still swinging up and forward. Because at that point the club head has stretch the leg and back muscles and slowed nearly to a stop is only takes a very small amount of side bend to ‘keep the slack out of the rope’.
As mentioned trail side bending will drop hands and elbow which looks like the elbow is being pulled down, but in reality it is side bend getting the MASS of the raised trail arm moving!
At the top of the back swing you can draw a more or less straight line from lead shoulder, across back, to the trail elbow which become a very long and effective lever which amplifies the force of a very slight side bending to get the mass in the trail arm stopped and moving in the opposite direction. That boys and girls is the physics underlying Harvey Penick’s ‘magic move’.
As in a side arm toss there must be two biomechanical actions to keep the arm hands pulling against the inertia of the club head mass: releasing the hips to turn by lifting trail foot and progressively increasing side bend. Those actions affect both the kinetic energy and vector path of the club head and this is where a tool like GEARS helps to observe and quantify cause and effect of changing variables. Minor variables like what direction the toe of the club points when wrists cock in backswing and at the top affect swing path. I analyzed them empirically by just changing one at a time and observing how it changed path and ball striking.
The biggest flaw in my swing was ‘slack in the whip’ at the top until I remembered seeing that Count Yogi demo on TV as a kid. I fixed that and figured out where in 3D space the clubhead mass and toe needed to be at the top for MY long-torso, long-arm biomechanics to pull and steer it back to the ball while maintaining my balance on my feet.
Body proportions = length of the lever arms which is why swing mechanics need to be tailored individually and why you can’t follow by rote anyone else’s swing unless they have similar proportions and range of motion in their joints, most notably radial - ulnar deviation and extension - flexion in the wrists.
I've literally just spent a month fixing this and continue to work on it. Do a ton of reps at home in-between range sessions and rounds. Use an alignment stick under my grip and keep it on my left hip during take away. Video my sessions at home and at the range and have slowly weeded out any of of the muscle memory of this bad habit. Ball striking and consistency have massively improved.
Thanks for this Mark, it replicates exactly what I am doing without realising it, feeling I was taking the club to parallel but actually moving the club outside.
Such a common problem with not many coaches applying the right thoughts or techniques to fix it. I am currently working on the same thing and will save this video for reference 👍
This is.. how I teach but for me I go a step further and ask why is he doing that.
Once you clear that up, then the student can make adjustments and keep the feeling out on the course as well, as well as better contact.
amazing stuff! I mean you could see it from just looking at his swing but its great to break down to a model view
As always. Do less.
I have had 2 GEARS sessions with Joe at JD Golf Academy. I can't recommend it enough. GEARS has uncovered hidden data that you just can't see on Video, Trackman,Pressure plates or by ball flight. For example my left hip was 1/2 inch lower at impact than at address. Changing that to 1/2 inch higher has improved my ball striking beyond anything I've worked on with my regular coach who is really good and has all the tech aside from 3D. He had a GEARS session himself to learn more. 1 inch difference is MASSIVE. Changing that 1 thing has tied together all the things we had almost right but not quite. Joe is a great communicator, really positive, clear and keeps it as simple or as complex as you want. The data doesn't lie.
How good are they at prescribing a fix for faults picked up through the data?
I'm new to golf and had a few lessons but wasn't given much in terms of drills or an understanding of where I should be or maybe feel, maybe it was the coach or me not understanding
@Mattbreese1 they are excellent. It is quite detailed data but Joe is great at making it simple. All I can say is if you have a session with them as a beginner you are getting world.class level detail and accuracy. I wish I had this info 30 years ago when I was a beginner.