My Experience Using Windows 11 on the Steam Deck 2 months later
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- Опубликовано: 21 янв 2024
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my only issue with windows on steam deck is the brightness control. somehow it won't let me go dimmer than it should be able to even though it says it's already at 0 brightness. i have to move the slider back and forth to make the screen dim.
yeah it worked fine for me until some windows update, then upgraded to w11 and the bug is still there
Has this been resolved?
I have had Windows 11 on my Steam Deck. It ran fine plus you have the added bonus of a full computer experience when adding a mouse and keyboard. On holidays I bring a portable monitor that can run for hours on a powerbank. Works so nice with the Steam Deck. Still I am on Steam OS now. The reason is the controller. I just can't seem to get a stable situation between Steam and for example Xbox Game pass games. If Steam would just make drivers that work fully under Windows, I'd be on W11 in no time (or if someone knows how to get it work properly).
In my experience, I have gotten it to work fairly consistently, but I start encountering weird issues. If both steam is open while handheld companion is open at the same time if I’m playing a non-steam game, my solution is just to force close Steam through task manager, or shut down Steam through Steam has been a consistent way to get it to work and turning off Start on power in TaskManager preventing steam from opening when you turn on the steam deck helps eliminate that issue but it’s not a 100% fix sometimes I forget or sometimes the mappings are a bit sticky and it doesn’t know that steam was closed so I have to reload the game but in general their minor annoyance is now no longer a game breaking issue
id recommend checking out Steam Deck Tools. Adds a lot of the Steam OS quick menu utility like TDP control, brightness and volume control, display color profile, etc it also adds full system wide controller support for non steam games. it also doesnt have the issue where theres double input. It basically just recognizes the Steam Deck controls as an Xbox 360 or PS4 controller connected to it.
Yes! I got it working with handheld companion. Tools wouldn't load the controller tool, but I use the fan controls of the tools. Also got css loader working and amd config. Just looking for a way to get the Steam button working in Steam big picture mode.
try rwasd
for windows with amd gpus, i would reccomend using modded drivers. also dualboot seriously if you are going to use windows, because steamos is important too
Yessss modded drivers are great and you can use rsr.
Where can I get them and wich one should I use for steam deck?
Dont need dual boot u just dont know what u talking about and how to tweek it properly
Moonlight and sunshine on steamOS works awesome if you already have a gaming PC.
Windows on deck works amazing once you install modded gpu drivers and Handheld Companion, but it takes a while to get it all set up right.
SteamOS is just unbeatable when it comes to power management and that's important for handheld gaming.
I find no issues with using windows in my steam deck, in fact, It’s my main os now in my steam deck
I had steamos for a good bit then installed regular windows 11 and then I went back to steamos and then recently I did windeckos steamos is cool but if ur someone who plays mostly PvP titles or destiny 2 etc windeckos is the way plus i prefer the more simple way of installing applications
windows is not a console os, that is the issue, updates are breaking, touch is terrible. I love SteamOS, but windows for me allows me to have one 4tb drive for all my devices with steam games installed... dual boot will come eventually once its mature enough.
What is best driver for steam deck oled currently ?
Just use valve’s, but used the fixed Wi-Fi driver
I been indecisive. I love steam os but the game I mainly play is rust. Steam needs to work with Gary on getting rust back on Linux.
Funny thing is a couple of my friends chose not to get steam decks because they couldn’t play rust which is the primary game that they play
Yeah as much as I want support gaming on steam os/linux (I use to play rust on Linux back in 2017) rust only thing keeping me on windows on my main pc. I did have windows on my deck last spring but things wasn’t as great back then I did have my steam deck dual booting. I had my partitions set to 128gb steam os/ 128gb windows and the rest of the 512gb ssd to the space on exfat to share the games plus i have a 512gb sd card. I’ll give it a shot again but this time using the more updated companion and also the custom amd drivers.
@@JustSomeJacobbuying an ROG Ally over a steamdeck because steamos doesn't let you play game pass games.
@@mckinleyostvig7135 feel you. I stop playing on game pass because I’m cheap but if I want to use game pass I’ll pay on my laptop or Xbox. But I completely went to steam os on my deck now it’s more stable. It’s great for all my single player games like, Skyrim, fallout and it run horizon zero Dawn really well! When I play horizon, I get unexpected crashes both of my AMD and Nvidia GPU…
does anyone use steam deck for warzone. i get occasional stutter and it pisses me off. any help would be appreciated
Ta tech made a vid a while back for warzone 2 steam deck fixing stutter. It works for new warzone too. No more stutter
After using steam os, I've changed my main desktop pc to Fedora 🎉
Ok… want a cookie? 🍪
@@SonixMDTCKdo you?
I bought two steam decks one for deck os and one for windows. solved my issues. I prefer mostly windows at home but if I'm out and about deck os wins all day.
What a massive waste of money when you can dual boot.
how does the suspension while mid game work in windows?
Depending on the game, it could be kind of Jenkee all really depends on how the game handles being minimized. For example, Minecraft handled it fine but games like Jedi order for me at least didn’t like getting minimized and occasionally would crash once resuming the game, but that solved by keeping the game in window to full screen mode.
What should i do for game setting on windows all games are laggy
change your vram to 4gb, and watch vids about how to debloat Windows, also videos about making windows optimized for gaming.
Use Windows 10 LTSC. Windows 11 is bad. LTSC is a debloated Windows. Extremely minimal, focuses on performance, privacy, and security. Windows 11 LTSC won't be available until Fall 2024
But if you rly want the best possible performance and battery, SteamOS is the best. Linux is superior to Windows, the ideal gaming OS. And SteamOS made Linux-gaming possible
Still no audio drivers for the OLED yet 😭😭😭
@@Not_Max23 theres a Qualcomm driver for WiFi I got working
could i download windows on sd card ? And at the same time use it regularly when boot through ssd steam os ?
Yes, but I wouldn’t recommend it windows on an SD card just isn’t very responsive and it can decrease the lifespan of your microSD card I recommend if you’re trying to dual boot, have a very large internal SSD maybe a terabyte or 2 TB and then cut that in half for each operating system by partitioning the drive
Windows uses NTFS as a file system. It is also a journaling file system constantly making writes wear down the drive fairly quickly. Best to create a separate partition for windows on the steamdeck storage and just dualboot.
This is an important project, you are doing something that needs to be done! Windows is way more useful than SteamOS in gaming and everything else. I've heard of Handheld Companion too. I'd want a Steam Deck if Windows worked properly on it, the 4 paddles on the back give the deck the most flexible input scheme, the touch pads aren't totally neccessary, but there they are.
You obviously don't have a steam deck or you wouldn't say the touchpads aren't necessary. Even with windows they would while maybe not technically be required, are super, super, super handy to have. I'm not talking about for games either. I'm talking about navigating different launchers and the operating system and a million other things.
People know extremely little to nothing about SteamOS or Linux in general to be making those claims
1. Linux has far more than Windows. It's got way less restrictions. Linux is the KERNEL for Windows. It has far more use than Windows could ever dream of
2. Linux is superior to Windows in terms of Performance, Privacy, and Security. Any game will perform better on Linux than Windows. It's the ideal gaming OS. And with SteamOS, Linux-Gaming is even more possible and will only get better
Touchpads are completely necessary. Especially if it's got a PC OS. No PC OS, even Bloatware 11, has a good enough interface for touch use
@@cqllel5186 Touchpads aren't necessary to play most games, the gamepad is way more popular than the touchpad in gaming, hence the name, and hence the existence of consoles and now, PC handhelds. Touchpads don't make them gaming devices, the gamepads do. I loved games like StarCraft etc, but I wouldn't miss those games on the ROG Ally, i'd simply play them with a mouse when I got the chance.
@@sunrisesunset1734It's not for games, it's for the OS. The cursor in general. Using touch input on PC OS UI sucks. And I personally would like to refrain from smudging my screen as much as possible
A PC OS without a touch pad control would be a laptop with only a touchscreen. It'd just be worse and would force you to buy and use a mouse
@@cqllel5186 LOL, one can navigate an OS with thumbsticks and be a little patient, there's no hurry to do anything in Windows, it isn't like the boss is down and you have to hit his heart before his chest closes back up or something.
That's a terrible analogy too, PC without a touchpad? PC's don't have touchpads, they have a mouse. A laptop with only a touchscreen? Neither of these things exist. Further more, touchpads suck comparead to a traditional mouse, yes they can come in handy for OS navigation, but if you have thumbsticks, you'll be fine..
I have a surfacebook 4, with an AMD gpu. If I use AMD's drivers, it's a horror(brightness goes nearly all the way down, tearing in youtube), however, if I stick to The driver Windows presents..it's great. AMD needs to Q&A their drivers.
amd driver can be fantastic. i do have some problems. For example, i run on amd driver that is almost a year old cus all the newer divers that came out have absolutely awful performance, but the old driver i use is fantastic. It is absolutely absurd that the newer diver is unplayable, so my point is that they can be good but are unfortunately inconsistent.
Open sourcing the Windows driver would be a win-win for them honestly.
AMD has a fully open source Linux driver which they work alongside the community. It completely wipes the floor with the proprietary Nvidia driver in every way.
If AMD were to open source the Windows driver, it would be a much better experience I think.
Do you know how to emulate ps3 games if so could you do w video with steps i know how to do ps2 i cant get ps3 for nothing !
PS3 emulator sucks. I think it's best to wait until it gets better
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my steam deck windows doesn't work any game in full screen mode. no idea
hmm, try this
go to AMD setting and set Scaling Mode: Full panel
Windows is made for laptops and desktops.
I've made my peace with it. I don't need a windows handheld unless they make something that works great with handhelds.
If I truly need something from windows, I can stream to steam deck on local network with virtually no input lag. I never bought it to play multiplayer games or shit like that, I already have a pc for that.
So I dunno why anyone would install a shitty OS on a machine not made for it.
so did u recmended for me instil windos11?
yes and no it depends if u would resive any benefit on windows for example i switch to windows cus i wanted to play destiny 2 but u cant do that in steam os cus of anticheat i also had more reasons than that but anyways if u don't have a good reason to switch or u not having any problems with steam os in general then there's no real point in switching
Don't use Windows 11. Use Windows 10 LTSC. It's a very minimal, de-bloated OS that focuses on Performance, Privacy, and Security. Windows 11 LTSC won't be available until Fall 2024
i just wanna play fortnite and warzone so doest it worth it to buy and install windows just for that ?
It plays Fortnite fine enough. Warzone was less good. I would say you need something like the ally or the Legion go something a bit more powerful if you want to play Warzone on the go at least comfortably.
How is fortnite could you get 60+? In what settings? And performance or direct x?
I would use the performance rendering option, all low, basically and increasing the UMA in the steam decks bios to four gigs. It’s basically increasing your video memory from the one gig. You usually have reserved when you’re in windows to four, which you should see a noticeable increase in basically, any game you play this is because the steam deck went in windows has one gig V ram, and then uses your SSD for swapping memory around and that is much slower and can decrease your performance.
for Fortnite, play it with xbox cloud gaming or if you can with nintendo switch
How did you display FPS on Windows?
There are many ways to do this you can use fraps but that is super old, or msi Afterberuner, and even appluction you can install to bring back the stats veiw from steam os
@@JustSomeJacob I was wondering how to display it as shown at 10:00. It seems like it's MSI Afterburner. Thank you for the answer!
@@guestuser515 I followed some guide online. I’ve been looking for it to post here for you. I will keep looking, and I will add it to the description when I find it.
I have problems with windows, because every time I run a game seems like video goes through another screen, like if I had another screen connected, there is sound but not image, and is something that hapens even reinstalling windows again
Did you fix it?
do you have a linkto the specific steam deck driver?
The specific one i use or the just where they are generally
Dual boot oled FTW, get good
I am a computer tech, so the expericence ive gotten with my steam deck, is a bit better than some PCs ive dealt with. I see the same common issues that I would see in a laptop, and I mean behavior wise...the linux OS was confusing to me. linux is a language different than windows so this is my reason for installing windows 11 to my steam deck. I think the windows works better than linux, just my personal opinion. for some strange reason, I have not been able to figure out the SD card driver for the steam deck. I got the othr drivers to install, yet when I go into controll panel, I still see 5 drivers that need installation, but I decided to put that to the side for now til I have my needed equipment to better driver installing
I dont think one OS "works" better than another, its about if you know how to use it, and if you're coming from another OS of course another OS is going to be confusing to you.
Honest question: why would you buy a Steam Deck to run windows? Wouldn’t be better to just buy a Rog Ally or Legion Go? I’m a console xbox gamer and want buy a handheld.
Because steam deck desktop mode sucks. Imagine u want a PC on the go. Not everyone is Linux savvy. For a normal user windows come handy
Bigger question is why wouldn't you run windows on steam deck? when steamos doesn't support 60% of games and lot games with anticheat will get you banned.
the steam deck is still currently the best option for performance/price. yes you could go for an ROG Ally or Legion Go, but those could are all more expensive. You could easily get a refurbished 64gb Deck for $280, slap in a 512gb-1TB SSD for 40-70 bucks, and now you have a kickass handheld thats half the cost of a Ally Z1 Extreme or Legion Go.
@@neoanderzyou don’t have to be Linux savvy to use steam deck desktop mode. The UI is very similar to windows and most apps that you need can be installed with the discover store
@@TYPICALGHOSTSNIPERlol, 60% is a reach. I haven’t encountered any game that can’t run on steamOS that isn’t because of anticheat
No Half-Life 3? Too soon bro
At this point if you are putting Windows on your Steam Deck....just don't!
If you want Windows just get a ROG Ally or Legion Go
Eh, it’s not the end of the world if you consider wanting Windows on your Steam deck, I have and it runs beautifully and perfectly, I play rdr 2 with a keyboard and mouse and also to have that laptop feel (yes, I’m aware Steam OS has a built-in Desktop Mode but I like browsing in Windows). But if you don’t know how to install or dual-boot Windows, ask a tech expert for help, that’s what I did when I got my Steam Deck. I got it along with a Windows dual-boot, loving it ever since.
EDIT: I have graphical mods with fairly ultra graphics settings, few lag spikes but I was able to finish the quest “Banking The Old American Art” or something like that. That place is in saint denis and there were a lot of lawmen so you’d expect it to be super laggy but no it wasn’t, although, it did crash when it tried to load guarma, that’s because I’ve been playing rdr 2 for a long time, and when I was doing that mission Micah had A bowl cut 💀. Anyways it said something about a memory error but I know the reason because after it crashed, I did the whole mission again, and there were no graphical issues no Micah with bowl cut (💀) and when I reached the part where It crashed, it didn’t crash. So, I recommend just a few graphical mods to make your rdr 2 look better, and also download a config from nexus mods called “GTX 1650 Config”, the GTX 1650 is the equivalent to the Steam Deck so don’t worry if it will lag a lot. I know this is like a super long edit but I just wanted to share my experience with graphical mods in rdr 2, hope y’all do this too, it’s really fun.
EDIT 2: the first edit is posted 7 days after the original comment, if you wanna try it, lemme know 👍
@@Revolvenderis there a good tutorial on this. I always wanted windows on my Deck. Get tired lugging around my MSI gaming laptop.
If you're gonna use Windows, use Windows 10 LTSC. And dual boot it on a separate SSD. There's a dock for the Steam Deck that has a built in SSD slot
Other than that, you're just gonna get worse performance and battery life than with SteamOS
And when SteamOS becomes officially available outside the Deck, it'll prove to be a massive upgrade in terms of performance and battery life for other handhelds. Ally would perform even better with a lil longer playtime with SteamOS. Basically any Linux, rly
Your comment is valid, if the device priced at the same price. Steamd Deck LCD 64GB with extra SSD still beat those competitor in price
I switched to Windows be ause of pc gamepass
I dunno man, the way you speak about the issues without specific examples is kind of telling that it was your personal issues, not technical ones. I've had Windows 11 on mine since launch and it's been perfectly fine. I've never had any control issues. Sounds like you're not choosing appropriate controller layouts. You installed new drivers, didn't check settings, and complain about performance. So you just had settings reset. This review is mostly disingenuous imo.
Apologies it’s been four months since I made this video so if I get some details wrong bear with me the control issues I was having was with non-steam games every steam game I played worked perfectly no controller problems whatsoever but the moment I went and tried to play games from the epic game store or gog i ran into some problems but as I mentioned in the video, I did eventually figure it out. I still use windows on my steam deck. Any of the issues I did have I have fixed that was kind of the point of the video is talking about the issues I had and then how I fixed it and some of the problems I had were kind of dumb and I’m not an expert on the topic, but I was sharing my personal experience. When I installed the latest drivers, I ran into performance issues in certain games. The one that immediately came to mind was the most parent to me because the game I played the most is Destiny 2. I tried all sorts of things, but it just for some reason Destiny 2 went from running spectacular to choppy and I don’t blame valve necessarily for that. I blame AMD because I had experiences in past using AMD graphics cards on desktop that would run into the same issue some games don’t like some drivers. It’s just amd quirkyness and not the steam deck specifically I don’t know if I said that explicitly in the video. Like I said I still use windows on my steam deck to this day. How I fixed my driver issue wasn’t resetting the whole thing it was just ddu Then just installed the last driver that ran Destiny 2 specifically the Best, which was at the time the previous driver hopefully this gives you a little bit more insight into my thought process
@@JustSomeJacob The store shouldn't matter. The games would just use whatever joystick is available. If the Steam Controller is in the devices section of the control panel it's available to all software. It's the same as using a desktop. Did you only test Destiny 2? It's an online game, maybe the issue was networking related?
I’d rather use SteamOS, Windows is jank.
I would agree to an extent, but at least the windows can be fixed or mitigated fairly easily any jank you come across in SteamOS is usually really hard to get past or really annoying, if you aren’t proficient, or have some level experience with Linux, which isn’t particularly common but if you’re doing strictly surface level things, and you don’t ever need to go into desktop mode yeah it’s better but for me, that just wasn’t the case
i would dualboot tbh
Arguably jank but can play all the games you paid for
Absolutely, SteamOS / Linux is way better for gaming, it's much more flexible and actually built for the deck. I'd never replace SteamOS with Windows on the deck for sure but to each their own.
@@simhz2221except for games that dont work on linux :)
W10 and 11 are OS for boomers.
Go cry 😂
Use Windows 10 LTSC. Windows 11 is rly bad, especially for gaming. Windows 11 LTSC won't be available until Autumn 2024
How do I install it. Recently dual boot window 10 via Rufus but the valve APU driver could not install. And i mainly just want to play FC 24
@@timokins. IDK how to set up Windows on a handheld. IDK if it's the same as a laptop/desktop or not. I know it has its issues or something. I don't plan on downgrading to Windows from SteamOS when I get a Deck, either
@@cqllel5186 Gross
Gross
Whats the difference between LTSC and normal Windows 10? Is it more stable on the SteamDeck or smth?
I think I will try getting a 1tb ssd and dual partition it. I have an SD card in all ready. Use for batocera.