Why is the Crescent & Star on so many Muslim Flags?
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2020
- Another question on the problem with the Crescent and Star came from a viewer known as 'Truth Seeker', who stated, "I’m a Muslim, and the crescent is not Islamic symbol and it’s not of Islamic origin. What Jay Smith is saying is true. This video is informative and was to the subject. While seeing a lot of comments it seems a lot of non-Muslims and maybe Muslims thought it was Islamic, which is understandable since it was used by some Muslim countries in the last century. But it has nothing to do with Islam. The usage and adaptation is due to the country itself, and their own needs. Saying Islam took it is also wrong. The crescent is adapted by non-Muslims to identify Muslims but was not accepted for a long time (not until 1844 AD), and then was adapted by some Muslim countries [in the 20th century). This doesn’t make it Islamic either, because it simply does not have any religious significance, and Muslims should be encouraged not to use it."
This is indeed an understandable mistake by Muslims and non-Muslims alike; namely, the Crescent and Star have nothing really to do with Islam, and this we now know because the coins from the 7th century clearly show that the Crescent and Star is a Sassanian, Persian symbol.
But that then 'begs the question'; namely, what is the true Islamic symbol?
Christians have a cross as their symbol because it has enormous significance to us, since it was on the cross that our Lord Jesus died, and it is because of the cross that we can have salvation.
But it's not just Christians who have important symbols to represent them. The Hindus have the Om sign, used as a mystic syllable, considered the most sacred mantra by Hindus.
Buddhists employ the 8-spoked DharmaChakra wheel to signify the eight-fold path to enlightenment, while the Jews have the star of David as their symbol.
However, not to be left out, isn't the Crescent and Star now the symbol of Islam? If not, then why have so many Muslim countries put the Crescent and Star on many of their flag?
Furthermore, what religious meaning does it have? There is nothing of any religious significance written about the Crescent and Star in the Qur'an, nor in the later Islamic Traditions; so, why has it now been adopted since the 19th century as Islam's universal symbol?
If it's merely political, then why don't Muslims say so, and tell us what exactly does it signify politically?
Over to you Muslims...
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I remember a Muslim telling me in the late 1980s where I worked that the Quran had been perfectly preserved in every detail, which was totally unique compared to other religions. Back then we didn't have the internet and there wasn't really much information to find out if what he was saying was true. He use to tell me about the scientific predictions and even that there was some sort of connection between Islam and Nostradamus! I find your videos fascinating please keep up the good work!!
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In fact, I have the answer. In fact, I have a question for Christ, too. In the end, the use of the star and the moon hundreds of years before Islam, and there are reports stating that the star and the ill returns to represent the goddess of Carthage Danet .... - In the time of ancient Islam Muslims did not possess any symbol of Islam To the emblem of God and His Messenger, and this is for the purposes of identification, but the symbol was linked by the Turks and they adopted the star and the crescent. This empire ruled the whole world, but it did not enter Morocco, so the flag differs
Ha ha ha, the innocent question is, if Jesus died in an electric chair, for example, how would your knowledge be?
His telling you nonsense which you like to hear but no proof. Only One Quran all over the world.
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@@abukhamis9329 xd rude
If Jesus Christ did not die on the cross for our salvation, then not only are all Christians damned for all eternity to hell, but so are, and especially the non-Christians, also are damned to be lost. Christ is mankind's ONLY HOPE.
Very good point, that the crescent moon and star are not Islamic! Then WHY do they keep it? (Especially when Islam forbids the use of IMAGES!?
@Random Person Thanks for pointing that out. (I did edit it to read "Jesus Christ", which is what was really intended. However, I was actually using what was spoken at 3:10. Still, you are right, and I do thank you!
Random Person why was Baal holding the unblemished Lamb ?
In fact, I have the answer. In fact, I have a question for Christ, too. In the end, the use of the star and the moon hundreds of years before Islam, and there are reports stating that the star and the ill returns to represent the goddess of Carthage Danet .... - In the time of ancient Islam Muslims did not possess any symbol of Islam To the emblem of God and His Messenger, and this is for the purposes of identification, but the symbol was linked by the Turks and they adopted the star and the crescent. This empire ruled the whole world, but it did not enter Morocco, so the flag differs
Ha ha ha, the innocent question is, if Jesus died in an electric chair, for example, how would your knowledge be?
@@Quarton Jesus not son of God. ruclips.net/video/9Az7NoZ8jCs/видео.html
@Random Person Jesus not son of God. ruclips.net/video/9Az7NoZ8jCs/видео.html
Muslims Eid celebration starts after the sight of Crescent moon. Every month of Muslims starts with a crescent moon. You said cross is the symbol of Christianity because Jesus died on it (Nauzubillah) but does bible mention it to adopt it as your sign? Crescent's sightings bring happiness for Muslims by starting the Holy Month of Ramadan and by starting the celebration of Eid, by starting the Pilgrim month of ZulHaj and so on, so some of the Muslim Countries adopted it as a sign and with passage of time it becomes a sign to represent Muslims. It has nothing to do with our religion and no Muslim ever claimed it. In-fact we Muslims prefer Arabic Calligraphy over any sign.
@Asaph Apologetics Just read my whole comment...
This is the true answer, maybe if this person actually knew about ramadan and eid he wouldn't have made this video
This is the correct answer
It _is_ a pre-Islamic pagan symbol, however.
just like allah is the pre islamic major god.
@Zombie Fool What do you mean pre-islamic ? Islam was started from the time of Adam. According to Islam Prophet Adam was the founder of islam, Prophet Muhammad was the last Prophet and bringer of New and last Sharia( commandment) from God. And it is Monotheism Religion. So where does Pagan came from ? Star and Moon is also a Astrological Symbol. It can used for many cases. Moreover it wasn't Islamic Symbol in the time of prophet. It was Ottoman that used the symbol to represent Islam.
@@bilbil1059 did Adam pray 5 times a day? Did Adam go for hajj? Did Adam mention the name "Allah" once?
@@Biobele 1.No Prophet Adam AS didn't Pray 5 time. Because he was given a different easy Sariya from Allah. 2.How can Adam AS do Hajj because there was no Kaba at that time, It was Abraham AS who built The Kaba.
3.Different Prophet said different name according to their Holy language like Yahweh, Elohim, Allah. But they all believe in the one and same creator.
@@bilbil1059 If he didn't abide by the 5 pillars of Islam how then can you say he was not just a Muslim but a prophet of Islam?
Adam was never a prophet not everybody mentioned in the Bible or Torah is a prophet, by that logic Eve was a prophetess? Mary mother of Jesus was a ???? To you everybody who was good or notable needs a title
I am pretty sure Abraham didn't build the Kabba
When most of you die and find out the truth wow it would be both exciting and pitiful at the same time. Humans born in the 21st century living life based on 6th century logic from a man uneducated even by 6th century standard whose actions were more than questionable yet you took his words as LAW literally.
Read your religious books with an open mind an Unbiased mind.
Jay thank you for inspiring me to start this apologetics channel!
Star and Cresent was symbol of Ottoman Empire which lasted for 650 years. The countries which got independence adopted this symbol. There is nothing pagan in this symbol. It's just symbol. Alhumdulillah Muslim ❤️
It was stolen from the Byzantines.
@@cypruswithoutborders1034 Christians have the Cross.
@@malikwaleed5044 Christians have the cross, Constantinople had the star and crescent.
@@cypruswithoutborders1034 In our religion the cresent means our month and year which starts by seeing the moon. And the 5 sides of the star represent the 5 pillars of Islam
Tauheed |believing in one god Allah|
Namaz | Muslims prayer |
Roza |Fasting|
Zakat |2.5% of the wealth which is given to the poor. It is obligatory for ones who have enough wealth|
Hajj |Holy Pilgrimage|
@@malikwaleed5044 you made it up dont you? show your reference. It is venus Lucifer Ishtar symbol.
possibly a pagan Turkic origin - beyond the symbol being used by the last Persian Empire
That is this symbol hd found in some old Turkic culture the reason the ottoman use it in 1800s is because the pan turkism nationalist
@@naonzz5942many people used that symbol before Turks
Hindus detected opinion rejected 😅😅
@@naonzz5942pretty obvious it’s Byzantine symbol the ottomans appropriated.
I’m a Muslim and I’m not defending us using the crescent and moon.
The Bible also don't tell us to use the cross as a symbol. If I remember correct the early church used the fish sign as their symbol.
When did Christians start to use the cross as a symbol?
Al lah the moon god, akbar the sun god have 3 daughters al lat, al uzza and manat.
I am a Muslim. I do agree that Crescent and star isn’t an Islamic symbol. The flag of Saudi Arabia can be an Islamic symbol because it has the Shahada.
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I agree with you.
According to mr. Walid Shoebat in the Bible Isaiah 14:12 talks about Lucifer, while referring to the crescent and the star. In Arabic it is called "Hilal bin Sahar".
Wath is the meanig of Sahar please it is a name but i world like to know the significante of the name Sahar ?Please
@@rossanapalombo381 I do not speak Arabic, but I understand the meaning of "Sahar" is "Morning".
@Rossana Palombo In the Hebrew Bible, the phrase used in Isaiah 14:12 is 'Heylel ben sahar', the ancient Hebrew name for the planet Venus as the Morning Star. (If the Hebrew phrase seems so similar to the Arabic, that's because both are Semitic languages)
This was then translated in the Greek Septuagint as 'heosphoros', the ancient Greek name for the planet Venus, the Morning Star.
Roman Catholic scholars translated this phrase in the Latin Vulgate as 'Lucifer', the ancient Roman name for Venus the Morning Star.
The modern New International Version translates it as... wait for it...... morning star.
There's absolutely no hint of a crescent, the moon, or a crescent moon in Isaiah 14:12. But don't take my word for it, do your own research!
@@rudycarrera4759 Thank you so beautifull
The Roman ....lucifer is Light right?
@@rudycarrera4759 In Arabic "Hilal" means "Crescent". This is very clear. For example, the Red Crescent organization is called "Al-Hilal Al-Ahmar".
Al-Lah is the moon god (precicely egyptian "Iah" moon goddess, wich was brought through sabians worshipped, in Arabia it was added "al" in the beginning and made Al-Iah, wich became Al-Lah, because first latter "i" is hard to pronounce separately from "L" at "al"), that's why crescent moon.
For jews crescent moon means times of collecting harvest, so it was symbolizing a scythe, star is a "promised believer" for Abragham - so crescent and moon is satanic symbol of stealing possible believers in hellfire by satan's lies, that's what it means. It's satanic, i had that revelation. Diabol's lie is satanic teaching of islam from demons from hell and posessed Magamad.
@Garuda Integritas Where do you get the information that Catholics worship idols? It's not true so who has told you this? The first commandment from God says not to make graven images and worship them. Catholics follow this command. Worship is only directed to God. Thanks in advance for your answer, God bless, Adam
Lol
@alias moose God of moon, not THE moon. You don't understand ancient pagan mentalitee.
Good Job Jay Smith!!
It's an advertisement of the real god of Islam. That golden calf, that Egyptian god with horns which represent the crescent moon. Al Lah, Hubal, Duschera- moon god. The star? Only Allah knows hahahahhahah!
@irishxxkelt How are you Irish Kelt?
@irishxxkelt You have my prayers! In Jesus name, amen.
In fact, I have the answer. In fact, I have a question for Christ, too. In the end, the use of the star and the moon hundreds of years before Islam, and there are reports stating that the star and the ill returns to represent the goddess of Carthage Danet .... - In the time of ancient Islam Muslims did not possess any symbol of Islam To the emblem of God and His Messenger, and this is for the purposes of identification, but the symbol was linked by the Turks and they adopted the star and the crescent. This empire ruled the whole world, but it did not enter Morocco, so the flag differs
Ha ha ha, the innocent question is, if Jesus died in an electric chair, for example, how would your knowledge be?
Ancient Arab followed the Ibrahimi religion until a man named as umero bin luhya (a very popular man amongst the Arab people) took an idol(huble) from Syria to Arab and the people of Arab started to worshipping it,
This idol Was fixed in kabbah .
When muslim conquered makkah this idol with other 360 more idols was broken by Beloved Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H.
@@hadi2026 There weren't ancient Arab people. Not by that name anyway. They were Elamites, Nabateans, or other names. And they weren't all following Abraham. Most were NOT following Abraham. Even Ishmael, Abrahams bastard son didn't follow his father in religion.
Thank you Dr Jay for all what you do 🙏❤️
In fact, I have the answer. In fact, I have a question for Christ, too. In the end, the use of the star and the moon hundreds of years before Islam, and there are reports stating that the star and the ill returns to represent the goddess of Carthage Danet .... - In the time of ancient Islam Muslims did not possess any symbol of Islam To the emblem of God and His Messenger, and this is for the purposes of identification, but the symbol was linked by the Turks and they adopted the star and the crescent. This empire ruled the whole world, but it did not enter Morocco, so the flag differs
Ha ha ha, the innocent question is, if Jesus died in an electric chair, for example, how would your knowledge be?
Because Allah is (based on) Hubal, the moon god of Muhammad's Quraysh tribe and represented by one of the 360 idols in the Kaaba of Mecca. Hubal the moon god itself came from the ancient Canaanite god, Ba’al.
I dont know about the star, but perhaps the crescent moon symbolized the early ramadhan what they call as a hilal. I m not sure. What do you think?
It's on the flags to celebrate the moon god Lah and his daughter, Lat.
The crescent and moon belongs to Turkic people and Turks since forever. Arab people should stop using it in their flags because they're not Turks and will never be. It has nothing to do with islam, it's pan-Turkic.
@@bakugokatsuki908 Mo used anything and everything to promote his phony allah and islam, so why wouldn't he use a flag or others beliefs? Mo and allah were as useless as a football bat and glove.
@@mlyons31 insults won't make or change anything, the star and crescent aren't islamic, period
@@aintankha6617 - Yeah, right
@@mlyons31 you couldn't give any intelligent response, so to make sure you had an awnser, any awnser, you just mocked it, how sad is the state of anti-muslims lol
IT IS A TURKIC SYMBOL. Göktürk (The SkyTurk) Turks were Shamans from Central Asia. Most Islamic countries (Saudi and Iran) dont use the moon and crescent
Then, why are those symbols on every mosque 🕌 ?
It's nothing wrong in this symbol. I m Muslim
@@malikwaleed5044 , then you worship a moon god. You are an idolatrous. Anyway your al Lah is a black stone.
A moon symbol for the moon god, al-lah. Makes perfect sense!
@Mas Gonderawi Allah = the god Lah Allah is not a generic term for God. IL Lah = to Lah etc.
@Mas Gonderawi Al-Lah is pagan moon goddess. It is not al ilah. Al-Lah was egyptian goddes of moon Iah, without arabic "al" attachment. And it is still moronic - for God's name is not "god", and never was. Crescent and moon are satanic symbols.
Yes, and Muhammed is the star of the show.
Surah 67:5 _And indeed We have decorated the nearest heaven with lamps, We have made such lamps as missiles to drive away the devils, and have prepared for them the punishment of the blazing fire._ Beautiful weapons against the devils. If solar systems are used against the devil, Allah truly must be joking!
@Mas Gonderawi you are a Arabic speaker? Well so is Christian Prince go watch some of his videos on the name of Allah he breaks it down precisely. Stop lying!
Thank you too much for your Comment.
Sultan Abdulhamid. The Caliph of Islam. The caliph of the khilafat said the Moon represents the Muslim People and the star represents the Turk People.
The word 'Lucifer ' translated from the Hebrew language means 'sickle + star'. That's quite similar to the crescent and star. Communism uses somewhat similar to that in their flags. Coincidence?
The mark of the devil is all over in plain sight.
perhaps the crescent moon is a sign of the light being lost and heading into a very dark place...
Lol
@Garuda Integritas lol
isn't the crescent and the star a symbol of ashtarte?
Question: In Qu'ran, all verses and chapters are numbered by Indic numerals. Why is that? Indian editor?
Arabic version if you have eyes
@@serchlearn yepp
Be blessed Jay
It actually has huge significance in Islam first of all that Islamic calendar goes by the moon and Muslims look to that star to know what time of month exactly it is and that crescent in the star is used in so many Islamic traditions but it has been used since the sumerians
Singapore has a crescent & 5 stars. Why??? How???
It's differently a time to remember, understanding it's been used to roll out a war or a set of change. Seems like your stars have aligned.
While Islam does not have a symbol, there is no restriction on flag representation as many centuries of Islamic caliphates used different flags. While the crescent moon and star are not a religious/ theocratic symbol in Islam, its association with the Ottoman Caliphate made it a symbol of Muslim solidarity worldwide.
It started in zoroasterian symbol depivting altar with fire. The altar ia cradled like crescent moon. Later is was taken as crascent moon and star.
Hello,I am a fan of Tom Holland ,the Christian Historian.
I am sure I heard him say,that the empty cross ,was a symbol which ment' if you mess with US(ie the law layer's),then you are going on the cross.
Tom Holland did not say 'empty cross' ,he just said the cross.
As for the star and crescent moon!is the star actually representing the sun? I do not know.
its representing to our Ramadhan here in indonesia.
Well Ramadan could be a false rendering of what the word means.
You dealing with Ad-dajal(Great deception) syndrome.dont forget that hadith states Ad-Dajjal will have control over Makkah,and it is most likely already so,bcoz Makkah in Saudi has done nothing in the last forty years to make muhammads reputation to be shown as honourable to the world.
Sharo Ramadan nalize unzila ilayhill Qur'an na 👈 that Qur'an verse,seems faulty.
Sharo Ramadan 👈 could actually be two Root words eg SH.R.R & M.D.N.
Sh.R.R 👈 has a meaning in modern Arabic yet even that can be false rendering because modern Arabic ie Sassanid Arabic is not Qur'an Arabic.
I have not found a meaning for M.D.N Root (Tajweed D) as of yet.
@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 "bcoz Makkah in Saudi has done nothing in the last forty years to make muhammads reputation to be shown as honourable to the world." why? we only faith and only pray for our god, no need people to recognized us, people here faith to our god and prophet we dont looking for Honourable to the world, just said.
قُلْ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلْكَـٰفِرُونَ ١
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O you disbelievers!
لَآ أَعْبُدُ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ ٢
I do not worship what you worship,
وَلَآ أَنتُمْ عَـٰبِدُونَ مَآ أَعْبُدُ ٣
nor do you worship what I worship.
وَلَآ أَنَا۠ عَابِدٌۭ مَّا عَبَدتُّمْ ٤
I will never worship what you worship,
وَلَآ أَنتُمْ عَـٰبِدُونَ مَآ أَعْبُدُ ٥
nor will you ever worship what I worship.
لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِىَ دِينِ ٦
You have your way, and I have my Way.”
109 Al-Kafirun - Verse 1-6
@@divinedragon17 .Deen does not mean religion. It means 'Debt' as in ,to show gratitude for a favour done.
eg in nad Deena in Dal lahill Islam"
Above makes no sense becoz it's saying " the religion of Islam with alllh is the religion of Islam".
Today I have perfected your religion of Islam for you etc etc and chosen religion of Islam as your religion of Islam.
DEEN = religion of Islam.
A religion perfected 1440yrs ago cannot stay perfected for 1440 yrs ,not when ugly Sharia is created later👍.
Deen in non- semetic Urdu language mean religion,hence don't presume that by adopting Arabic Qur'an words into other languages,that the definitions are the same.
Look at this example of nasty.
Eg. Qur'an 82:14 wa in
nal Fudge-Jara la fee ja heem.
Fudge is Sahih BUT Jara means Shit in Gujarati/Indian language .
So Indian Muslims take Jara word from Qur'an and make it mean Shit/goo/turds.
@@divinedragon17.Saudi rulers are possibly prisoners of the Ad Dajjal system.
believe everything u see on TV,in that way you will not need eyes to see,hence Qur'an 2:18 deaf dumb and blind (SOME MUM BOOK mun um yun fa HUM la yar JAY ooon)👍
it is a sembol of sumerian moon god ''NANNAR'' from B.C. 3000 and Akkadian moon god ''SİN''..That is a oldest symbol of mesapotamian people not persian and others...
by the way one of the surah quran is ''YASİN'' or today we are saying part of egypt ''SİNAİ peninsula''
İ think ''SİN'' is never forget in mesapotamia 🙃
Not sure if it is the ottomans, I have seen an ancient tomb in North Africa, a few thousand years old with a crescent and a sun. But it is an interesting subject.
I think its a pre-Islamic Pagan symbol.
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In Belarus many cities have a crescent moon and a star on their coat of arms. Because these symbols have also a Christian significance. The crescent moon symbolize the Mother of the God and a star symbolize the Star of Bethlehem and in this way it symbolizes Jesus Christ
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All the countries you mentioned were part of (Greater Iran) from the time of the Achaemenid dynasty. All of them were influenced by one culture and language, except for the Arabs of Saudi Arabia, After the fall of the Sassanid dynasty and the Arab invasion, the massacre and genocide of the Iranians by the invading Arabs the settled (in present-day Iraq and Jordan). Iranian call these countries (Iraqi Iran) and (Arab Iraq) by the Safavid dynasty. In fact, the Iraqi people today are old Iranians who were massacred by the Arabs, and it is one of the paradoxes of the time to call them Arabs.
From the Ancient times, the symbol of the Contantinople city was white cresent moon with white eight pointed star on red field. When Ottomans conquered the City, they takeover the symbol with some modification (eight points star become five points star). At the begining, this modified symbol was just the State's or the ruler's symbol, later on it adopted as religios symbol. Taking that the Ottoman imperia during 19th century and at begining of the 20th one was the most powerful islamic state in the World, many islamic countries in next decades adopted the same symbol as "proof" of its devoty to the islam. I am sure that hystorians can confirm that the cresent moon with star was first time used as islamic symbol by Ottoman Turks, but after 1453 AD, when the City was conquered.
By the way, from the times of Bysantine imperia, the original symbol (white cresent moon with white eight pointed star on red field) was the symbol of Holy Virgin Mary, mother of our Lord Jesus Christ! It measn that cresent moon with the star is wrong used Christian symbol in the islam during the centuries! 🤫
Its not only on their flag but mosque too
What I could understand the usage of the crescent-moon symbol in majority Muslim country is to show the closeness the country to the Ottoman Empire that used to be during Ottoman Empire limelight. Most of the Muslim empire like Moghul and Malacca (14-16 centuries) was under the Empire of Ottoman with some authority given to govern their own land, and most o the Muslim empire fall was due to unattachments towards Ottoman Empire/ colonized by Europe country. To express the symbol to proud and historic limelight of the new nations that free from the colonization the idea of relationship with Ottoman Empire they crescent-moon is used to express the country could be successful again as what the nation used to be during Ottoman Empire.
It’s pretty establish the ottomans (who believe were a continuation of the Roman’s hence Mehmet calling himself: Kayser i rum) just adopted it since it was already an Ancient Greek/Byzantine symbol. And it also represented Constantinople.
Actually moon not a mean in Islam. First moon use flags by Turks empire in Central Asia Gokturk Khanate and Ghaznavi State.
As i know muhammed put the Crescent symbol "ONLY" on the mosque because he though that the moon is the strongest among the three GODS in the arab world at that time (Allat , Al-Uzza , Manat)
Allah swears by moon
Surah 74:32
Good deception and cherry picking:
كَلَّا وَالۡقَمَرِۙ
(74:32) Nay, by the moon,
وَالَّيۡلِ اِذۡ اَدۡبَرَۙ
(74:33) and by the night when it recedes,
وَالصُّبۡحِ اِذَاۤ اَسۡفَرَۙ
(74:34) and by the day when it dawns
Basically mentioning his creation, Allah got nothing to do with the moon, as he created it along with literally everything
It's just like the star of David. Nobody can explain where it came from really. Strange...
Zoarastrisme
Every country that has a Zoroastrian symbol was once influenced by the Iranian dynasty, which is why they use Iranian, Mithraic or Zoroastrian symbols.
Years ago in American history the male and female outhouses were identified by a crescent on the male outhouse and a star on the female outhouse because women kept theirs tidier.
It's an ottoman rule symbol which was later adopted by other muslim majority countries in 19 century for recognition of islamic country ,flag and building structure it has nothing to do with faith of
Islam (Only for Recognition not for worship)
I am Muslim there is nothing to do with Muslim cresent moon and star. it's just symbol.
Jay, you know why the crescent is used. Allah is the ancient Arabian moon-god. The crescent is the crescent moon and has been used in images of many different moon gods and goddesses for thousands of years. The Egyptians had a moon God as well as the Babylonians. Moon god and goddess worship was common in the Middle East among many cultures. The sun gods were typically male while the moon gods were typically female. Allah must have had a sex change somewhere along the line.
Nkjv.Deutronomy 4:19 And take heed,lest you lift your eyes to heaven,and when you see the sun,the moon,and the stars,all the host of heaven, you feel driven to worship them and serve them, which the LORD your GOD has given to all the people under the whole heaven as a heritage
Why do mosques have a crescent moon in them if the moon is not an Islamic symbol?
Note I am not asking about the star, since afaik no mosque has a star in it.
Could it be a leftover from the pagan religion that Islam supplanted?
It's totaly because of Turks. Turks used crescent as their coat of arm even before existance of islam. When pagan Turks converted to islam they kept using it on their flags throughout the history not just Ottomans. Then both non-muslims and other non-Turkic muslim associated crescent with islam.
This person is right. In the Gokturk state in the 600s and 700s, there was pictures on money and golds moon and also i am turkish i like my flag :)
Wasn’t Allah the moon god of the pagans in Mecca at the time of Momo!
yeah and he had 3 daughters xd
Sin (𐩪𐩺𐩬) was also the name of the pre-Islamic god of the moon and riches worshipped in Hadhramaut.[5] People of Yemen still say "Yā sin" (Arabic: يا سين) and "Yāʿūqi" (Arabic: ياعقي) instead of "Yā Allāh" in reference to the anicent gods Sin and Ya'uq (a god mentioned in the Quran).[6]
Islamic calendar is based on moon .
Muslims follow a lunar calendar based on phases of moon.We fast accordingly and observe Eids as well based on moon phases.
THE STAR AND CRESCENT represents or symbolises HIELIL BEN SAHAR of the bible- lucifer(hielel -shining one) son (ben-son ) of the morning (sahar- morning or dawn).this is the name of Venus in the bible. Venus is represented as a 5 pointed star-( 5 prayers) (5 pillars) Venus's selected day is Friday(Juma) and the selected colour is white(Ehraam worn at time of hajj). Basically muslims have been duped by the Persian Imams of the 9th century to follow pagan planet worship in the name of god.the Hajj is also dedicated to Saturn and Venus worship. Venus was know as Al-lat to the ancient arabs and Durga to the Hindus, Apfrodite to the Greeks,
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Prophet muhmmad cut the moon in half with his hand when people where saying to show a miracle that you are a true messenger of god.According to Prophet Muhmmad (saw) mother Muhmmad (saw) use to play with the moon when he was a child.At that time muslims used to give reference of moon to prophet muhammad (saw) because the moon glowed as much as the prophet did. These things which I quoted are from the hadhees.
The Crescent and the star were a symbol of the Sassanid dynasty (Zoroastrians, Persian Empire) after the fall of the Sassanid dynasty to the Arabs. They used Sassanid coin molds to make coins, the Arabs did not even have a writing system for themselves. Therefore, Arab asked the survivors of this massacre of Iranians to set up a writing system for the Arabs in their own dialect.
Hey be careful when you're taking our prophets name, being a bit respectful never hurts anyone!
Curse Islam and muhammad ain't no Allah...it is only Yahweh and Yesuha
@@raymonddav5281 Get well soon!
@@TheBongTraveler that's all u can say...cuz u can't prove Allah is real...there is no Allah...and Muhammad was a pedophile go ask his 6 year old wife that he consummated at 9
@@raymonddav5281 May Allah show you the right path!
@@raymonddav5281 you are like if you can't see your brain then you don't have one
The Crescent is symbol of Ramadan and the star is symbolic of the five pillars and five prayers. It has nothing to do with religious symbolism. The reap religious symbol is probably the green flag. The Crescent was used by some Arab tribes to represent them. It was also used by the Mamelukes before the Ottomans. Yes it has more of political and a representation to Islam rather than religious. The Crescent however was always used as a symbol for Ramadan, the star was later added. Its more of representative symbol rather than a religious one. Shia Muslims might use it for a larger Islamic context but they always use the Zulfiqar as their symbol.
The crescent moon is a symbol of a start of new month in the islamic calendar so technically its islamic while the star has no significance. The only reason why the star is used is because the Ottomons used it. The reason why the ottomons used star is because star has 5 points which refers to "5 pillars of islam". Islam has many rules but following the 5 pillars classify you as a muslim. Plus only using a moon feels empty so moon and star go together. This is why it's used in many muslim countries flag.
Secondly, in Islam what is prohibited is prohibited by muslims and what is not prohibited is allowed by muslims. But if something is not mentioned in Quran, then there is nothing wrong to adopt it. It's not a sin.
Crescents, hammers, crosses are symbols of war weapons.
Sickles, blunt weapons, swords.
The stars represent the victors of the battles.
Star of the morning vs the morning star.
Isha, the word used to refer to Jesus, is a pure Sanskrit word. In Sanskrit, this word simply refers to the supreme being!!! why is that?? That too in a book preserved in heavens ?? Surely it is NOT an Arabic or Semitic word.
Yes, maybe for political significance but also it reminds us of the last legitimate Muslim empire/superpower/caliphate so maybe for some nostalgia purpose. But all good thing in Islam starts with sighting of moon so there is nothing prohibited about it. But it is better to always keep the Sahada in a flag.
Cant you find the Crescent symbol on a lot of Islamic mosques?
Manuel Swords - whats an "Islamic mosque"?
Why are there Hindu Mosques?
What does it mean when the crescent moon is backwards like on a hat that is known for BLACK capitalism? Does it just show that it means the opposite when dealing with a occult or organization?
idk about other nations but the symbol on the Turkish flag does NOT represent Islam. It’s a cultural pre-islamic Turkic symbol
Crescent and Moon has to mean the search for truth based on universal, well grounded NATURAL FACTS not in fanrasies or fictitious miracles and beliefs ehich can get humans in more and more trouble.
The conquerors demanded allegiance to the creator of the sun and the moon.
Muslims celebrate holy Eid by sighting crescent moon , Islamic calander is lunar calander , Ottonmans put that in their flag and before that Salahaddin the great adopted in his flag.It's symbol of Muslim community , it's not political , does not symbolise Islam the religion or Allah himself . It's only community symbol .
Not even saudi flag have that symbols. Oh wait, the have a sword LOL
Saudi Arabia are wahabi traitors to the Muslim world. Oh wait, you lack a brain LOL
In fact, I have the answer. In fact, I have a question for Christ, too. In the end, the use of the star and the moon hundreds of years before Islam, and there are reports stating that the star and the ill returns to represent the goddess of Carthage Danet .... - In the time of ancient Islam Muslims did not possess any symbol of Islam To the emblem of God and His Messenger, and this is for the purposes of identification, but the symbol was linked by the Turks and they adopted the star and the crescent. This empire ruled the whole world, but it did not enter Morocco, so the flag differs
Ha ha ha, the innocent question is, if Jesus died in an electric chair, for example, how would your knowledge be?
I don't get your question, but it can be one of two things and I will answer both.
1) Yeah sure, if he died on an electric chair we probably would be a 2000 years more advanced and the symbol would be an electric chair.
2) We would know this through... stories? The Bible which was obviously written after Christ's death? Or any other written format?
Crescent moon and a star are in mosques everywhere around the world.
judges 8:22-26 Ishmaelites were known for their ear-rings and crescent-moons. In nations using astronomy/astrology, the moon had a significant role in the night sky. Bowing to the moon goddess (or other pagan gods, like the "daughters of allah" (which are also featured on muslim pageantry)) was a common pagan practice that God "Yahweh" had to warn His people about (Deut:4:19). The whole Ka'aba and the meteorite worship is set up in a traditional sense of sun/moon/star worship (perambulating the shrine like the planets, kissing the black meteorite, the "image" that fell down from heaven). BTW, thinking about "seeker's" question, was the LATER "Islamic" prohibition on the use of images used to hide the idolatrous sources of the made-up "muslim" "religion"?
@alias moose OK. How come Al-Harith stood in front of the statue of Hubal at the Ka'aba, casting divining arrows to figure out which son to kill -- just like King Nabonidus of Babylon would cast arrows to his crescent moon god? And wasn't one of the Baals of the Canaanites the moon god? Else why would they name their city Jericho after the moon god? Why do the muslim temples have crescent moons on them? Why do muslim Emirs, use the symbol of of the crescent moon and star, just like muslim countries, today? Why do muslims celebrate the feast of Al-Fitr, the month long feasting/fasting festival of the moon god, copied from Al-Feter of the moon god festival from the city of the moon god called Harran? Why does the koran say don't do something, and then promote it, somewhere else? Why can't it be consistent if it came from heaven -- can't they get things straight up there? Or was the koran created by committee? God bless you!
Moon God ~ Hubal ~ Crescent ~ Muhammad Splitting Moons
Moorish symbols(how ottoman’s received them), and Kemetians (how Maurs, aethopians, and Dravidians got them) before that.
Most Muslims I have spoken to have no idea why they the moon and star are used as symbols of Islam. I believe that the Arabs before Islam at the Kaaba worshipped the moon god named Allah, and the sun god, who was the female.
I'm from saudi Arabia and I agree with you its not Islamic symbol And we reject trying to convert it into a religious symbol! We disagree with those who use it as an Islamic religious symbol, whether on their flags or their homes
Indeed, the true and only Islamic symbol in existence is the sentence that Saudi Arabia puts on its flag, and it is the same sentence that the Prophet Muhammad put on the flag
The crescent and star are not a religious symbol. It is a
political symbol of the damned and bloody Ottoman Sultanate. As for the reason for its borders on the flags of other countries such as Algeria, Tunisia, and Pakistan ... etc. it is because of the British and French after they decided to end their colonization of those countries, because they were the ones who drew their independence flags and they took The crescent and star of the Turkish flag as an indication that they are Islamic countries, it is not the Algerians, Pakistanis, Tunisians and others who chose their flags, or even the symbols on which the British and French had chosen them, and I think that the inhabitants of these countries after nearly 100 years of growing up on this flag and with this symbol found themselves defending an illusion They have attached themselves to it
I've learned a lot from this video.
The red in the flag represents Freedom {Sun}, Justice {Star}, and Equality {Moon}.The understanding of these symbols have not always been known or understood. God always reveals to whom he chooses in due time. Many times we have these symbols amongst us and don't have the understanding of them. Example: You mention the Bible and the Cross? Is it Godly? Did Jesus choose the Cross? Or did his enemies choose it for him? Islam simply means to submit to God. If you read your Bible you would see reference to the Sun, Moon, and Stars in it a few times. Why is this never talked about in the Church?
In the book of Revelations, John saw a great wonder in heaven. A woman clothed with the Sun, the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of 12 stars. The so-called Muslim that asked the original question is not in touch with his creator nor his Quran. Clearly Allah created the Sun, Moon and Stars to submit to his will. Islam means submission. There is much wisdom on the Sun, Moon and Stars in the Holy Quran. In fact, there are entire chapters on the Sun, Moon, and Stars. Likewise, in the Bible there is so much to be learned on this subject. Jesus is seen as the "Sun of Righteousness," and the "Morning Star." What does this mean? The "Wise Men" saw Jesus coming by observing a Star in the East. Surely you wise men can explain why Jesus is referenced by terms associated with the Islamic Fag.
Who said u that Crescent and start are just for islam. However, muslim use these symbol but what's the problem with these symbols. Crescent and start represents peace, brightness just like islaam is the religion of peace and blessings and brightness.
No one
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PLease tell us how GOD, as a Spirit can die???
Jesus was with his Father. He became a human, having a human body. His body died. When you die will you cease to exist, or does your spirit leave your body?
Jesus spirit left his body for 3 days. Then he resurrected.
@@phun1901 Well, you've crossed the line from reality into the Platonic, Greek, Hellenistic form of metaphysics known as Gnosticism which is abstract theories with no reality.
So please inform us how a body can die of it's own free will!
@@christopherlaing7338 everything I said is biblical, not Gnostic. Gnosticism isn't even a single set of beliefs. It's an umbrella term. Many Gnostics would object to me even describing a physical body of Jesus. I think it is nonsense to speak of a body having free will apart from the spirit within it. I don't need to operate within your paradigm of definitions and presuppositions. Even if I wanted to i have idea what template of Gnosticism you are assuming.
@@phun1901 That's how inept you are at discerning the Scripture as the Scriptures are Hebraic from start to finish and strictly monotheistic and not Gnostic polytheism and what your describing is a metaphysical person or personage made up of both GOD and man which is an absolute impossibility because GOD is NOT a man that He should die nor the son of man, that He should repent. He's GOD period, just as the Shema of Israel reads, ONE Yahuwah and NOT three in one.
@@christopherlaing7338 I didn't know that God was limited to your own understanding of him. He is God because he can do what you can't even think of and that means becoming flesh and even dying as a human. But remember one thing, God didn't die, his human body died.
for us algerian , the crescent represent islam and the star represent islamic 5 pillars (testimony,prayer,fasting,charity,Pilgrimage)
The crescent and moon belongs to Turkic people and Turks since forever. Arab people should stop using it in their flags because they're not Turks and will never be. It has nothing to do with islam, it's pan-Turkic.
@@bakugokatsuki908 go fuck your self moron , the islamic calendar is based on the crescent so its not belong only to the turk people ignorant racist bastard
2:58 that cross is a graven image at a minimum, also it was introduced through the roman catholic church...........hopefully you all know better by now to not follow them........God bless kind sir, great video!
Yes yes, let's follow Luther then. Protestants are really something special.
Scriptue Depot graven means carved
Scripture Depot. The cross was the price paid for our salvation. Do not disrespect the cross.
Llyne M Jesus, not the Cross, paid the price for salvation. You’re bad at faking Christianity.
I am from Pakistan. What I learned in the history book was the star, the moon and the white color symbolizes Non Muslims and the green part symbolizes Muslims. No one says it is an Islamic symbol. I don't know why your so serious about it xD. The founder of Pakistan thought highly of Atta Turk who made the modern day Turkey. Maybe the people were just influenced by them. Who knows.
Obviously bc their islamic calendar are based on moon patterns
A month starts with the a crescent moon, thats well documented and easily n quick check online ,took me 5secs to confirm it
I found hard to believe you haven’t thought about it
Interestingly, there is some reference that the crescent moon has meaning in both The Prophet Muhammad and in Allah . For according to the Quran ( I don't remember the verse ) when Muhammad came to Medina and sacked it , the Hindus were worshiping many gods there : and Muhammad had his forces destroy all the idols except one idol , and this was a Moon God that would later be named Allah. Also as we know, the 🌘 is the First Phase of the moons seasonal Four Phase change through the year , so if the Ottoman Empire made it into a flag symbol in 1844, I wonder could they have been alluding to a deeper ancient meaning for Muslims ?
We don't worship the sun or moon or other creation, we worship the creator of the sun moon and everything, we worship the one God of Abraham (As.). Sun an Moon are object of astrological and spiritual reality. In Sufism Moon represent the divine reality of the Mind and Sun represent the divine reality of Atom, Solar System, Black Hole, The Kaba in holy city of Mecca, Heart. Just like in atom every electron is circumambulating the nucleus of proton and nutron every Sufi is circumambulating themselves in Whirling Dervish and like that every muslims circumambulating The Kaba in Mecca and like that every planets is circumambulating the Sun and like that every thing in the Galaxy and in this Universe circumambulating The Black Hole and like that every thing in Multiverse and Dimensions is circumambulating the Reality of YaSeen and like that YaSeen and all the Divine Attributes is circumambulating The One God Almighty Allah. So in Islam it is no Problem to use Sun and Moon as a Symbol of Divine Reality.
And What you said about the idols of kaba is false and propaganda, There waw a total of 360 idols and represent the evil ego energy in the 360 points of the body, and Prophet Muhammad (Sa.) destroyed them all, there was no moon idols.
You are in the falsehood, in a Political Unspiritual Blind Religion manipulated by the Reptalian Alien(Jinn) with the help of Jews and Secret Socity.
Stop Thinking Nonsence and Do Some Meditation. Connect your Heart with The Father(according to christianity). Think Divine Light entering in your body. Observe everything and think freely.
@@bilbil1059 I was just asking a question dude., you don't need to get all condesending about it. As a Christian and student of history ... without people asking questions, then all your left with is blind faith.
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@@bilbil1059 I'd rather get hit in the head with a 2x4 than degrade my mind with the nonsensicle ramblings of some Muslim . Which by the way , followers of Islam are traitors to the memory of both Abraham and his son Ishmael ~ as they were both of Hebrew and the false prophet Muhammad and his followers twisted and misrepresented the Holy Text.
Cresent Moon and star we use to make Caliphate Again ❤️ , We again want to unite against enemies of Jesus and Truth as a muslim ☪️
The same reason your “Holy Cross” is on so many Christian countries flags. Simple as that.
God's word are not simple as that
That’s some false info. The crescent was first adopted by the Seljuks from Byzantine sources. And regardless, it doesn’t matter if it’s not in the Quran, a symbol is a symbol. For centuries the fish was used as a Christian symbol. Doesn’t make Jesus a fish god
Agree👍
fish?
Crescent and star old turkic (göktürk)
kaaba, moon and star are all over our rugs and carpet to step on with out feet. its nothing, just a symbol. have u seen cross or other gods put on carpet and rugs to step on?
Crescent Statues upon minarets,rooftops is standard for mosques.Looks like political statements supersedes dogma.
I may wish to be in attendance of your presentations when in ga but I have this one for you Doc:
Muslims per se aren't time conscious when it comes to their rebuttals.This is where your historical and chronicling acumen bails us out eg the shahada transformation,early muslims appear flexible than today's hardliners.Further we learn that first was Qathem then later christened Mohamed= "the praised one" = god!
"Corruption of Bible" claim came much later.You know what am asking doc.
Would do if you can compile those dates covering the transformation till now,pdf can do just in case.This comes often as a shock to muslim debaters with long held view that all begun at their prophet's life time.
Your argument had merit until you began about the cross! Yeshua was not upon a cross that was mankind's input changing scripture. Yeshua was upon a stake no scripture unless amended nor prophecy states a cross.. And that's what's wrong mankind changes things 🤔
Shriners, connected to Freemasonry use it too.
Shiva one of the trilogy of the Hindu gods has a Cresent, pinned to his head.