THE CARNIVORE DIET DOES WHAT TO YOUR BLOOD? - Dr. Westman Reacts
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- The cholesterol conundrum strikes again! Should you worry if your lab tests change on a #carnivore diet? Be careful who you get diet info from! Are they just an “influencer” or do they actually treat real patients in a real clinic?
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Why do keto/carnivore speakers seem so calm and measured, yet vegans so agitated and angry?
they're hungry
They liberal Karen's
It’s the oxalates! Lol
Because they are not sure of their dietary choice and doubt themselves unless everyone agrees with them
Because their hormone pallet is completely out of sorts and I'm really not making a joke here.
Interesting how when I was on a plant based diet I had belly fat, joint pain, brain fog, high A1C, but on low/no carb, high fat diet, all that goes away. 😮
Same here.
What did you typically eat in a week on your plant based diet?
@@jgreen9361instant noodles 😅
Same. And you know what? I
Even jf it does kill me, I'd trade lifespan for such an improved quality of life every. single. time.
me too... belly down 3". A1c fro 5.7 to 4.6. weight down 15lbs.
I had heart disease, arteriolosclerosis, diabetes and sleep apnea. I have been meat based very low carb for 2 years. All previous conditions are gone along with 60 pounds of unwanted weight! By the way, I never had high cholesterol and still don't. Also, I am 73 years old.
Good for you @GrandmaDecande!!
No longer have arteriolosclerosis?
@@seniorbob2180 Is that impossible? Non-reversible? Why are you incredulous about this? Are you a doctor who has never seen this condition reversed? Is it commonly presumed it is incurable? Whats going on, and where am I?
@@HeartFeltGesture it was a question, you fool.
@@seniorbob2180 I was about to ask the same question :)
My 94-year-old father has had high LDL cholesterol for decades and couldn't take Statins without terrible side effects. His mind is still sharp.
Interesting ...
High intensity health did a video on a study of 44000 people, only 1.2% of people lived to be centenarians, all of them had high cholesterol.
@@teresamoore3671 ~ Maybe high cholesterol is healthy ... 🤔❓️
@@jamescalifornia2964in no much carb eaters, yes! If you have high sugar+insulin+cholesterol all at once, then you are shortening your life...
Has anyone noticed you don't see keto or carnivore people angry and making videos attacking vegan or vegetarian dieters? Maybe because we don't care what you want to eat, it's your body, your decision. Just don't tell others what they should eat.
My mother had a total cholesterol of over 400 and NEVER had any heart disease. Doctor kept trying to put her on statins and the statins made her so sick she had to stop them. Again she never had heart disease. I agree with Dr. Westman.
Did she pass? If so, at what age and from what? Also what was her general health and diet like?
I want to know how long she lived too
What was her diet? do tell
Anecdotes are pointless. There is always someone making claims like these, and people believe them simply because it feels good to them.
What matter are studies.
That settles the matter for all of humanity then. Good point.
That girl look so much healthier than Mic The Vegan high priest..😊
Absolutely ❤🕊💯
My thoughts exactly. I’m thinking that guy needs a bloody steak!!
I lost my Aorta, had the other 3 valves repaired from a suberbug in 2012. My INR had been in stroke zone 1.4 to 1.6 I’ve been carnivore for 14 months. Now my INR is perfect at 3.4. I’m living proof that this guy is full of it. Oh added bonus I’ve lost now 120 lbs and now back to work in the 🇨🇦Oilsands😊
Congrats
@@marnasletten3988 Thank You I’m so happy after crying out to our Heavenly Father. He lead me to Dr Ken Berry and Dr Eric Westman, Their gift of Knowledge and wisdom has helped aid me on this PHD, which I refer to as life change. I’m carnivore for life with a little tweaking that is sustainable for me.I’ve been blessed😊
@@MajesticArtimus Trust me it was, I was terrified I was on life support for 2 months. My son had to obtain a lawyer to get me out of a hospital in Red Deer Alberta I kept writing on paper get me out or I will die. I was transferred to Mazenkowski in Edmonton on October 31st where my heart surgeon told my son if they didn’t get me out when they did! I would have died. November 2nd 2012 I was on the operating table for 14 1/2 hours! There were 11 people who contracted this virus. I’m the only survivor!!!Next came a class action lawsuit where they were actually upset I lived!! To tell the story.
@@johnnafarrell3336 That's an incredible story. I think you should write a book! Did you ever figure out what the superbly was and where it came from?
Where did you get the superbug and why would there be a lawsuit?
Dr. Westman, did you see the the 30-year long study that just came out showing higher total cholesterol was associated with greater chance of living to the age of 100 and not having heart disease, and lower total cholesterol was associated with not NOT reaching the age of 100?
Where can I read this study?
That was brougt up by High Intensity Health, but you can find proxy in the population study about cholesterol for a population averaging about 60 years of age. Highest quantitle had half the death rate of the lowest quantile wrt LDL measured (which is brought up every so often by Dr Paul Mason, Sydney). A positive result.
Other proxies are the public release of the dataset of, and reanalysis of the MCHS and SDS with similar results. Replacement of saturated fats with PUFA being negative for health (which is more focused on removing sat fats from the 1950's-1980's saturated fat and cardiac health craze), and replacement of butter/lard with plant oils (which is primarily done to lower LDL) having a very significant all cause mortality negative effect.
For further proxies is the preliminary statements about the LMHR study, whereby Feldman states that it's a "Scenario 5" situation, where the high LDL, high HDL, and low TG population have rather positive results per CAC score through both tests.
Negative (as stated above) being plainly bad for human health/longevity.
Positive being plainly good for human health/longevity.
Dr. Westman, you are a saint. I usually can't watch this guy for more than a couple of minutes before I want to throw things. I love how you explain things so non-judgmentally.
Yes for sure. ANGRY - AGGRESSIVE - Self-Righteous VEGANS can be V-E-R-Y annoying to be around. StayWell : )
He does have that face that annoys you after about 3 seconds..
This vegan clown has already shown his guiding agencies are corrupt establishment agencies like the FDA and NIH, two agencies that said the Covid vaccine was safe and to shut up and take it or you're a conspiracy theorist. They also said the covid 10 didn't come from a Chinese lab so these agencies are the last place I'd believe when it comes to diet, especially since the food pyramid hasn't really changed in over 40 years.
@@miraak8523 - Nah, he’s a true believer aka delusional and misinformed Beta man.
Mike the vegan looks sick as hell
I am always open to views contrary to my own. The exception is Mic the Vegan. Mic has a level of arrogance and dismissiveness which I find apalling. His intonation and eye-rolling and little giggles are offensive. He is one of the few influencers I have no trouble letting Bart Kay deal with in his own somewhat vigorous manner.
It is also nice to see someone like you dealing with him though in a more firm and adult way..
A derogatory and condescending approach of critique to someone else's attempt at living a healthier lifestyle in the framework of a medical professional is simply the worst hot take and significantly discredits one's own reputation.
Honestly when I was looking at veganism as a dietary option a few years ago, Mic the Vegan is one of the few who actually made me realize that I didn't want to be a vegan. Several vegan youtubers that I found, had come across as wildly fear mongering, and the evidence didn't support most of their claims.
The only one that immediately comes to mind as worse than Mic the vegan is Vegan Gains.
@@gavtex1065 I'd argue that Dr. Fuhrman and (not) Dr. Greger are worse as well. They both take on the veneer of "THE SCIENCE"™ and make utterly ridiculous claims and outright lies.
poor. Mic is a frustrated actor and RUclips is the only stage available to him
My blood pressure was 160/94 in June of this year. I've been on a carnivore diet 100% with no cheating (mostly just beef, butter, bacon, and eggs) since May 30th. My BP is now in the 115/75 - 122/80 range every day now. I no longer have side effects of insulin resistance, my clothes are all too big now, and I can RUN up 7 flights of stairs when I couldn't do 2 flights 5 months ago without feeling like I was going to die.
I'm a clinical lab scientist. Cholesterol has never, in my over 40 year career, been reported as a "normal range". It's always been reported per the AHS guidelines! For those who don't know, normal ranges are established by analyzing healthy, normal people to establish a mean range. Normal ranges for cholesterol are actually higher than the AHS has your lab reporting them!
I've been full carnivore for nearly two years. My total cholesterol went up about 50mg/dl, but my triglycerides have been cut more than half (under 100mg/dl) and my HDL is the highest it's ever been. A1C 4.6, back to a healthy weight, off all meds, BP 116/62! Try and convince me carnivore/ ultra low carb isn't healthy!
Bravo!👏👏👏👏
how do you cook your meat? and is it lean meat or just regular meat?
@@patboy24 Most times on a flat top griddle. As far as fat goes, the fatter the better as I am burning fat for energy, not carbs.
@scottsellers9039 thank you for that info, and we'll done, I use butter a lot is that OK please
@@aspinallsandy4810 real butter is amazing for us. Enjoy.
The hilarious part is his sponsor, thrive market, does a keto subscription as well 😂😂😂
Why are these people so anti? They get so worked up over people experimenting with anything other than what they believe. If being a vegan makes you feel great, thats great! If carnivore does it for you thats also great. We need more people that dares to experiment with diet so that we can learn and grow. Processed foods and sugars are crap (something we can all agree on) and any diet that cuts those out is a win in my book.
Because they have a ground of moral basis, not eating living species or something from living species rather than health for why they have their diet? So they need finding faults with other ways.
What is so annoying with critique is that quite a deal of carnivores do the diet because of for instance autoimmune issues, gut issues and inflammation, which may have a very negative cardiovascular consequence. So someone who had these problems for decades and have heartproblems may have plaqued vessels from that rather than the carnivore diet they started afterwards?
@@johannas.l.brushane2518 but that are mistaken in their thinking. There is no surviving without taking an animals life. Life comes from life even if it's blood meal or bone meal for their garden. Or killing off insects that eat their crop. A good book to explain it more clearly is The Vegan Myth by Lierre Keith.
Because they're miserable and misery loves company.
@@johannas.l.brushane2518 to bad that moral high ground they claim is entirely strawman based. Reality doesn't care about our feelings. Do I want to remove an animal from the world? Nope, but I want myself to live well more than I care about removing an animal. Besides, industrial farming, which vegans rely upon to even exist, kills far more mammals than meat eaters do...they also create unhealthy environments for ALL living things with all the sprays and chemicals used to push yields ever upward and onward. Meanwhile, animals are used to regenerate land naturally...don't need any additives whatsoever. Yah...that moral high ground is a total illusion and they KNOW it. It's why they always use strong arm tactics and mis-direction when they attempt to force you to their way of things.
Couldn't agree more!
I've been carnivore for 6 months and I've never felt better
I met a vegan couple a few days ago and both of them were so proud of being vegan and I could tell they were bit disgusted that I was a meat only guy. The guy lamented on how hard it was for them to be vegan and how they always had to pack their own lunch (a vegetarian option was being provided for lunch, but was not Vegan). He must have been over 300 lb and she was also very overweight. I just shook my head. If that is Veganism, I don't want anything to do with it. These people must pour chocolate (but not milk chocolate) on their celery sticks. It's very very sad, they are fooling themselves and killing themselves.
You can be a vegan on candy and cereal. Obviously, eating processed food versus eating 'actual' plants (fruits and vegetables) would give two different outcomes.
Oreo boasts about being vegan.
This guy is hard to listen to. He is relishing his disgust at this woman for not eating a vegan diet, and having isolated numbers he doesn’t agree with. Being vegan can be quite difficult to live with including conditions of high insulin resistance and infertility. A colleague, skinny as a rail and vegan for ages has suffered two miscarriages and a horrible ectopic pregnancy. Her diet doesn’t seem to be supporting her fertility goals!
@@andrewilson8096true, but they are both unhealthy ways of eating. It’s just vegan hides it’s poor nutrition for longer than straight candy.
@@westb1028 So does eating meat alone...right?
he sure doesn't talk about all the VEGANS who have heart disease
Yes and multiple sclerosis. I remember when I was diagnosed with MS was shocked AZ was a young woman sadly also diagnosed with it and was vegan. I agree with Dr Westman that much is still to be learned on diet.
Not to mention deficiencies, low muscle mass, horrible pallor, behavioral abnormalities and just generally obnoxious personalities.
Vegans think they are going to live forever.
I did the Beef, Butter, Bacon and egg diet. I saved money on groceries and felt wonderful! Did it the full 90 days!!
I only did it for 2 weeks while my husband was away. So easy. I managed to get so many things done by not having to prep vegetables. Next year when he leaves I will repeat the process.
My diet exactly.
@@dawnelder9046I could have written that ! :-))
I'm doing Keto right now but want to try BBB and E but want to add in small amounts of Broccoli too just for a bit more variety.
Keep it up!
Going low carb has raised my LDL to 300, *BUT* it has also reduced my trigs and increased my HDL and I am now metabolically healthy. I'm looking forward to the LDL hyper-responder study results being published.
Me too
From the thumbs up to my comments (13 at time of this comment) it would seem that there are many others who are too.@@carolynjorgensen1644
Nobody with that LDL is ever healthy check yourself into a hospital as soon as possible. Mine was under 100 with and without avoiding carbs
I'd be interested in you getting a scan to see if LDL actually impacts your arteries or not. Because LDL is supposed to be the dangerous one
Mine is 492. I'm looking forward to the results also.
When anyone talks down about people it is a red flag for me. He eviscerates her by making people think she is stupid. That in turns makes his viewers feel extra smart. This is a way to create followers that really do not know why they are following. They just want to feel smarter.
Hit the nail on the head. Something about these people. They always push process chemicals in a plastic bottle. He’s a RUclipsr not an expert
Interesting so he gets followers. Like sheep or like a cult? Hmm makes perfect sense.
Oh, Dr. Westman. I so appreciate how you can somehow be respectfully snarky. Thank you for this series! I appreciate your time and expertise!
Dr. Westman you are such a gentle soul. This guy infuriated me with his attitude and missinformation.
The mistake was made when Ancel Keys blamed saturated fat and cholesterol. Now the medical industry can’t backtrack.
Dr. Westman, I really appreciate you clarifying and correctung the rampant misinformation out there. Thank you!
If qualifications are relevant, it should be noted that Mike the Vegan is not a doctor.
Can we talk about the fact that pharmaceutical companies set the "limit" that our LDL cholesterol should be at or below..? The billions they make from statins I'm sure have nothing to do with that.
Absolutely! What were the ‘normal’ levels 10-15 years ago? Today, anything over 200 constitutes high cholesterol. I believe it used to be higher. Same goes for blood pressure values - the ‘normals’ keep decreasing. Statins, beta blockers being pushed.
Yep the limit is totally arbitrary and just someones opinion.
My doctor lost it and became screaming angry at me for eating carnivore. Even so, I heard him out and asked him how many patients he has rescued from the deadly jaws of diabetes. That only made him angrier. The "soyance" has been hijacked. Shame on him: carbs are to blame for pre-teens popping up with NAFLD, CVD, and even what used to be known as adult onset Diabetes. I came from an ancient line of people who ate only meat. He did too.
Same here. Mine wanted to immediately put me on High cholesterol medication. I asked for a CAC scan order before he wrote me an Rx. He was upset and placed one for me. My score was ZERO. When I told him I refused any meds for it. He had nothing to say but, “Ok.”
If my doctor screamed at me for any reason he would not be my doctor anymore.
@@coreencasey5109 He dismissed me as his patient. If he hadn't, I would have dismissed him. Strange.
@@rickperez8044I guess his mission is not to keep his patients healthy.
@@rickperez8044 - You weren’t making him any money.
Dr. Westman you are my rock, a safe harbor for reason and science! Thanks for all of your hard work in keeping us informed.
The only thing I learned from this video is that a vegan diet makes your hair all greasy.
And your skin sickly pale
He was pretty pasty faced too.
😂
Seed oils do that. I used to think eating all fats made my skin feel greasy, but after switching to all animal fats I realized the difference. I think seed oils get forced out of our pores, at least in part.
And it gives you flatulence.
Carnivore: Just eat Beef, Butter, Bacon and Eggs
Vegan: Buy all my stuff
vegan: varied plants. Easy.
@@Randoverse plus all the supplements. I was vegan for yrs prior until I ended up very sick. Now I am healthier at age 65 than past 30 yrs. Zero meds now and more energy than in last 30 yrs.
Supplements
Cooking an 80/20 burger in a cast iron pan with clarified butter while I watch this... ❤
You make me smile 😊
I just love these videos that you’ve been doing Dr W. Please keep doing them!!! We need your rational responses to irrational rantings.
I would be dead by now if I kept listening to people like Mike.
Same
what qualifacations does that muppet have?
At least my soul would be dead.
@@stephenlucas8133 He does a good job reading studies and giving help. His bias just gets in the way like anyone.
Great work Dr. Westman ! Thank you very very much for teaching us . No more kidney stones for my wyfe no more belly , no more
autoimune disease for me after 6 months of low carb diet we feel great ,we look much much better and we look much younger . It is an honor to learn from you . Stelea Adrian from Romania !
Greetings from Canada. 2 of my grandparents were from Romania!
I thought I did everything right when I was a vegan. I was eating a McDougall style diet. High Carb Low Fat Whole Foods. Then I got blood work done, and my cholesterol was alarmingly high. It shocked me so I took the blood test again because I thought my blood may have been mixed up or something. As vegans you get it drilled into you that high cholesterol only occurs in meat eaters. The second test was just the same. My doctor wanted to put me on statins. I did not do it. I wish the vegan propaganda would stop presenting that veganism is the only way to go. Clearly it is not.
I should add that my cholesterol is completely
normal now since I’m on a low carb omnivorous diet.
Same! I did McDougall religiously for a year but just got sicker and sicker! Switched to carnivore and totally healed Rheumatoid Arthritis, Interstitial Cystitis, vertigo, TMJ, chronic fatigue, brain fog. My GP actually recommended I try carnivore and he said that any increases in cholesterol were nothing to be concerned with as he described cholesterol blood markers as not the fats themselves but the "trains" that carry the fats to where they are needed and that an increased fat diet would naturally mean there'd be more "trains" making the deliveries! Made perfect sense to me! The cholesterol only delivers to the arteries if there's damage in the lining to be patched up which has more to do with consumption of sugar and grains, obesity and smoking than consumption of healthy animal based saturated fats.
Same here friends 🥓 🥚
I went the same way with McDougall in an effort to cure my diabetes. Needless to say, after years of carbs at 400 gms a day based on my dietitian's review of my intake, I was in the worst shape ever. Glad I escaped.
@@calendarpage I just watched a vid on "Butter Bob" Brigg's YT channel. No, he's not a doctor, but I found this video to be very enlightening: The Root of Modern Illness - High Insulin. His contention is that chronicall high insulin is the cause/root of many illnesses, and that the keto diet is the "treatment" for reducing the amount of insulin circulating in the blood (and causing damage). His reasoning is this: EVERY time you eat (or drink a sweet beverage) your body releases insulin. So, if you are eating frequently you are constantly releasing insulin into your bloodstream. IF, however, you are eating low carb or keto, the diet keeps you satieted and you eat less frequently so you reduce the overall amount of insulin being released an in circulation. This is a very trunkated version - you should really visit his channel and watch the vid for yourself.
Ditto
During almost 3 years on a keto/carnivore diet, I heard and watched Mike the Vegan here and there and this kid's face is changing rapidly, look how pale and fragile he became compared to himself a couple of years ago and he certainly did some makeup and color correction for his videos. even compare him to that carnivore girl's face, looks how smooth and lively her skin is, the amount of calmness and energy. I guess that speaks for itself
I was thinking the same, his face is looking a little hollow around the eyes, and she looks so vibrant. If I wasn't sure which diet to do next, his video definitely helped me choose carnivore lol
I think the woman did a pretty good job of going over the science and she said multiple times to look it up yourself. I watched this woman's video before and she seems to know her stuff; at least from the biochemistry that learned at University.
I'm sorry to hear you went to a university. Lots of money for nothing and chicks weren't free.
@@Beef_it_to_be_fit LOL it was free where I went and lots of free chicks different time from today. You will understand once you have a bit more experience under your belt.
I was curious about something so I looked for a research paper about effect of fasting on LDL cholesterol. As it turns out. There is a statistically significant rise in LDL apolipoprotein B that rises with the length of fast.
Weird that the body would consciencely create such a molecule in the complete absence of food if its dangerous. As it turns out, too LOW LDL is consireded a risk of arterial hemmeroaging because of the clogging effects (this is listed in Pfizer's safety sheet or statins).
Side note, somebody pointed out that its possibly erroneous to call LDL a cholesterol, when it is rather a liporotein *cholesterol carrier* which is quite something different. It's like the difference between a red blood cell and oxygen
I love the point you make about fasting and an increase in LDL. Most people think that cholesterol is consumed when instead, our bodies produce more cholesterol than we usually can consume in a day. Dr. Paul Mason did a great presentation on cholesterol that turned my mind around.
I'm firmly of the belief that blood lipids should be tested after 48 h of fasting (including medication where possible) to get any sort of accuracy
@@defeqel6537 but then that would show that fasting is "deadly" xP
@defeqel6537 make it 72h and then everybody will be similar? :-) you could argue you want to know markers how they are most of the time, but then most people would need to have a sugary snack right before blood being drawn. The more you think about these things the less they make sense. As an engineer any measurement should be taken at a higher frequency than meaningful change is possible. So probably every couple of minutes, like with a CGM.
What's the name of the research paper? I'm interested in reading more about it
My chiropractor dropped dead from a heart attack in his mid 50s. He didn't smoke. He was a beautiful kind man. I think you just have to do your best. I'm glad I'm carnivore. It's helping my physical and mental health. I'm thriving on it. This doctor has sheer joy at others getting sick on carnivore and is taking the moral high ground because he's vegans. Well vegans have a foot print that conveniently they ignore. They don't care about the environmental damage from crops, they definitely don't care about the thousands of little animals that are killed growing crops. Just let me eat my meat and be happy. I don't care what anyone really eats. All I want is to be happy and well and carnivore is giving me that. ❤
Not many veggies and vegans acknowledge the environmental impact of cultivating the land and disturbing the eco system. Eating animals fed on permanent pasture is my preference. The insects living in the soil in which the grass grows can thrive (along with the birds that eat them). Unless we go back to ploughing with a team of horses or oxen, there is an environmental and financial cost in the use of tractors etc. Please don't mention methane from cattle! I wonder how much methane is produced by people on plant-based diets - I know I'm a lot more gassy if I eat vegetables.
Hello Dr Westman , I am a retired RN , was prediabetic earlier part of this year and with a weight problem. My niece ( another nurse ) told me about intermittent fasting and low carb / high protein diet . So I started the IF and low carb/ high protein diet early part of April this year and since then , l lost over 30 lbs ! My lab works are perfect and my nurse practitioner asked what I’m doing so I told her . I also quit taking my low dose Lipitor . Today , I’m pain free ( I also have osteoarthritis , had partial knee replacement and recent bilateral reconstructive foot surgeries ) , more active and feel great ! Then recently I found you so I started listening to all your videos ! Thank you for enlightening us about diet and health! I also listen to Dr Sten Ekberg . By the way , two of my girls attended Duke University .
If you look into Knees Over Toes Guy, he was in a similar or worse situation than you, but he found out a study from a sports medical college that osteoarthritis does slowly heal. Interesting stuff.
The body is as strong as you feed it, and then put in work to let it grow.
Well done. Are your blood particles ldl hdl large particles or small? Do you also eat grain fed meat?
When you’re smug like mike, you don’t win converts, you just preach to the choir.
Mike, the vegan flunked mathematics. He clearly doesn't understand what a risk factor is. Some risk factors are not statistically significant. And a positive and negative risk factor can cancel out. Also, it's very likely the average America's cholesterol is actually too low because they eat cr@p. 3:02 A study that considers pizza red meat is not very helpful. 7:09 Pizza is bad because of the wheat and vegetable oil not because it sometimes contains a few ozs of meat.
I don't blame him on this one.
Aparently all the doctors and researchers are too statistics illiterate to even understand what margin of error is. This is one of the first thing they teach you in high schol statistics.
What's the margin of error for food frequency tests in epidemiology. One, hundred, percent error maximum. 100%.
Yes, relative risk vs absolute risk. Relative risk is usually cited more often by anti-meat people because it's generally much larger than absolute risk, and thus "scarier." If 1 out of 100 vegans had a heart attack, and 2 out of 100 keto/carnivores had heart attacks, they'd say that is 100% increase because 2 is 100% more than 1. That's relative risk. But 1 out of 100 is 1%, and 2 out of 100 is 2%, so that is only a 1% difference in absolute risk. Statistically insignificant, as you mentioned.
The voice of reason as usual Dr Westman. Thank you for addressing this video.
Thank you SO much for your calm, methodical debunking of so many of his claims and conclusions. As a nurse researcher, I was ready to click off the video when you said, "Are your eyes glazing over like mine are." I literally laughed out loud. I was first introduced to your work several years ago, and I have learned a tremendous amount about nutrition and metabolism from you in a variety of venues. Thank you for the open-minded, science-based, and humanistic care you provide to so many people. I am very proud to be a fellow North Carolinian (even if I am a Carolina fan). 👏
Thanks once again dr Westman
You look at both sides calmly without emotion
You back your side up with science and emerging science
This helps me as a layman
I am 83 2 years basic keto
My whole life has changed for the better in so many ways
This guy seems to be big on promoting products
It is my belief that most products are packed with unknowns so I keep well away from packaged products
Congrats, very smart decisions!
Thats the general rule of thumb for nutrition savvy people of today, no boxes, and no packets. Whole foods. The End.
Thanks for clarifying many things Dr. Westman!! You are so factual knowing what is what!! I appreciate it!!
Dr Westman is a real gentleman.
I do not and will not do keto but I agree. He seems like a gentle, gentleman.
I’m 55 and my total cholesterol has always been over 220 and my other numbers have always been fine HDL 96, Triglycerides 59, LDL 120, I asked for a calcium score since my husband was getting one and it was 0. I’ve always been an omnivore and have eaten a lot of butter. We’re all so individual and my mainstream doctor has not been concerned about my cholesterol. Since May I have been in and out of ketosis and have cut out sugar and starchy veggies. I still occasionally eat “low carb” bread or tortillas, I’ve lost 14 lbs. and don’t need to lose any more weight. I love Dr. Westman and have learned so much from following him. Thank you 🙏🏼
Do Westman, you are so incredibly patient ! Thanks for what you do.
This person's sclera is almost the color of his skin.
5yr animal based and my family is thriving! We are healthier than our young doctors!
Cholesterol is king!
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He looks unhealthy to me.
I was thinking the same thing, he doesn't look healthy! Anyway, if a plant based diet was so great why do they have to supplement so heavily?
Omg…this mike the vegan raised my bp about 50 points with his ‘energy’😂😂 thank you dr westman for calming me down again❤
I was taking statin drugs for over eight years. At the end I could hardly get up from my bed. My all joins were crushed. I quit taking stains over twenty years ago and I never looked back. I'm on carnivore diet for over a year and I feel great. I'm well over 60. 😏👌
Worst drugs ever
As usual, Mic skips a lot of important info, like what causes the oxidation... sure, life in general, but so do high-carb diets and insulin. Also, I can find several peer-reviewed studies that show the majority of heart attacks are in people on statins with low to normal cholesterol. A meta-analysis came out recently that showed low cholesterol is more dangerous than high cholesterol. Also, LDL is not cholesterol; it is a protein that transports cholesterol and other vital nutrients. Lastly, LDL doesn't clog arteries for no reason. It is there because of damage caused to the arteries by high blood sugar and high insulin, but doctors jsut see the symptom and treat that instead of the underlying issue.
Yeah... when they are low in HDL cholesterol they are likely for a heart attack, just like high LDL. What are you on about?
I would recommend you watch some of "Nutrition Made Simple!" videos he has done on LDL cholesterol. He made me think twice about have a super high LDL on the carnivore diet. He makes a lot of good points about how just having a lot of LDL being transported around makes it get stuck in the arteries. He pretty much convinced me to be cautious here and not just accept that high LDL is fine.
My LDL shot from 120 to 240 on the carnivore diet.
@@Fighter4Street The cholesterol won't do any harm unless you damage the glycocalyx and arterial endothelium with triglycerides and oxidants like free radicals, peroxides and plasma hemoglobin. I'll bet he never mentioned that in his backed-up sewer analogy for the circulatory system. I suggest you get better information.
@@hektor6766 Yes, after doing more research, I saw that I was incorrect with my thinking as there really is no good proof that high LDL is bad.
So if you had a very high sugar diet and damaged arteries, would going low carb add more fat to the damaged arterie
I was on a plant base diet and lost 18 lbs and all my blood work ( cholesterol and blood pressure) went to normal within 3 months. Then , in order to get more protein, I started adding more beans. I gained weight again and had other physical issues. I stated keto and IF 3 months ago. I have never felt better, lost weight quickly, and kept my potassium at 4700 mg per day, BP is back to normal as it was on the WFBP diet. I stopped worrying about cholesterol. But, kerp an eye on the number just because I am so used to doing that. I followed Mike The Vegan when I was on the WFPB DIET. Respect his opinion. But, he needs to do more homework on Keto.
Bok choy is very high in potassium - very low carbohydrate/oxalate 👌
@jamescalifornia2964 yes. I include it in my diet. I love boj choy. Thank you.
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Why do people think beans are high in protein?! All of my Hispanic friends were brainwashed into thinking beans are protein. I learned thru Atkins that beans are CARBS. All I had to do was have my friends read the label on their can of beans. High Carb.
@@Livetoeat171what minerals do they hav that meat doesnt?
Thank you for the work you’ve been doing. The video being reviewed seems like a real hit job and not well thought out. I watched and found that women’s video very helpful. She’s well informed and doing good work.
My mother just aggressively told me I would die of a heart attack doing this (as she believes it will make my bad cholesterol go up and kill me), even though I lost 80 lbs doing it and feel physically better (as well as my IBS being cured). She's morbidly obese (like, very morbidly). I hate when unhealthy people try to scare you into stopping something that is clearly making you healthy. It's such an asshole move.
People often go onto any diet because they are in a state of unhealth and want to be healthy. So if their poor health decisions catch up to them it doesn't mean the new diet caught up to it. It means the past has.
Such as I have deep vein thrombosis. I got it eating a standard American diet. Since I have gone keto, lost a lot of weight and most of the symptoms that it exists have largely gone away. However, I can still tell there is blockage. It isn't completely gone. So if it gets dislodged and kills me with a heart attack or something its not because of diet. It can be any number of things. Such as when the docs did an ultrasound to confirm it, because they presumed I might have DVT, they did dislodge it some and cause the blockage to migrate in my leg. It caused massive pain and swelling for a few weeks. I felt horrible for that period of time. It would be disingenuous that my diet caused something that was literally caused by the medical technician who the doc scheduled to do the imaging.
Just as when the guy mentioned in the video having blockage that went from 10% to 90%. it is assumed that it was because of diet but it could have been anything else and the blockage was likely at the heart because it traveled from somewhere else. Its the nature of these things. Such as if my DVT dislodges it could end up at my heart and have 90% blockage. My DVT wouldn't go away either if i swapped to a Vegan diet. At least not over night. But I'm sure as hell if my DVT caused my death if I were on a Vegan diet then none of them would say it contributed to my death like they would say a keto diet would have.
Such dishonest people.
As far as ai know DVT does not cause hearts attack, it caused pulmonary embolism
Actually, I think that Mic needs to get a bit more sunlight, but of course he would need more LDL to be able to do that.
Too much carbohydrates. Completely wastes natural Vitamin D production as it turns out. Awful. I had no idea.
Not only that@@Mallchad , carbs help your skin to take up too much sun and your skin to burn. Since Keto/mostly Carni I absolutly don't burn in the sun.
@@Gesundheit888 yeah, that's what Vitamin D deffeciency causes, it contributes to melanin production which is natural sunscreen
Thank you Dr. Westman for your calm and educated approach and calm thoughtfulness. This young man is so angry and so wrong!
Dr. Westman is pure gold. His point at 11:25 about projection is spot on, and so common today. It's really perhaps the most common fallacy among people who engage in adversarial reasoning... esp politics, but also nutrition.
esp politics. Similar pattern of one side yells is aggressive -- the other side stands still, gives eye contact and smiles.
While on Whole Food Plant Based diet for 18 months my lipid panel went through the roof except HDL.
From an article on James blunt
“On the sociology side of things there were 170 girls and only three boys, of which all the girls were vegetarian or vegans,” he explained. “So out of principle, I decided I’d become a carnivore and just lived on mince, some chicken, maybe with some mayonnaise.”
“And it took me about six to eight weeks to get very unhealthy and see a doctor, who then said, ‘I think you’ve got the symptoms of scurvy,'” Blunt was healed by following the doctor’s order to drink orange juice every day, but he admitted the citrus eventually gave him acid reflux.
This isn't really much to go off honestly and has overlaps with not enough fat, electrolytes, or red meat. I do not know what mince he ate but am suspicious of his food choices, especially since more processing leads to further reductions of vitamin C in the meat. Chicken I think concentrates most of the Vitamin C in the organs and cooking again, damages vitamin C. HOPEFULLY he wasn't boiling his meat because they would be a tragedy for vitamins
Plus the (excellent) beer that Bristol University Student's Union was selling at the time. That would have totally screwed his absorption of vitamin C.
The article I read said he took it on himself to drink the orange juice. So after he told the doctor he ate zero fruits and veggies the doctor said "I THINK you have scurvy", he let him go home and james decided to drink OJ.
@@anthonymuma4602 yeah I picked up on that too. If drank like a gallon of OJ a day which was mentioned somewhere that makes up a significant portion of your daily calorie.... If it was truly scurvy a single orange should've cured him. could've just as easily been sodium or potassium
I doubt JB does his own cooking
My cholesterol was high and my doctor told me to lay off of pastas , bread and starch carbs. So I went carnivore. I’m getting ready to transition to keto. I’ll be getting blood work soon.
Thank You for saving this dear dog and her pupoies🐕 ! they all needed your loving care so much ! 🙏
Is it me or does Mike the Vegan look sick, pasty & sweaty??? Somebody feed that man a steak!!!🥩🥩😂
Thank you for always explaining so well. I appreciate you!
Great counter, Dr. Westman. You are so measured, thoughtful, and scientific.
Trying to find someone who actually engages their brain before speaking is so frustrating. You are a breath of fresh air. Thank you.
Thank you soooo much Dr W.
Your ...calm.... Explanation s are so welcome. More more please
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My new favourite react vids! Get ‘em Dr Westman 💪💪
Hi Dr. Westman. You are a rare breed... the most non-pompous expert out there.. so appreciate your fair minded approach and assessment of the various points of view we are all drowning in. I trust you for lots of reasons and have switched from plant based to keto and ketovore/carnivore after seeing my health take a hit in various ways. Feeling better and grateful to hear your discernment around the keto based diets. Thank you truly... lisa
Thanks Doc, I learned a lot. please keep the videos coming.
It is quite impressive how much junk food this vegan doctor is promoting in his video.
Doctor? what doctor, Mike is a Bachelor of Environmental Sciences lol
Food? What food, it's all just plain garbage!
Junk food? What JF did he promote? I am on keto. But, I don't remember Mike the V promoting junk food. ??
Strange, I’m 80 and I’ve been on carnivore for 20 months now with no vitamin C supplementation, and I definitely don’t have scurvy!
I assume you eat fresh red meat, not cooked to death?
@@wocket42 Of course!
Thank you Dr. Westman; always level headed and you give us responsible insight into this way of eating.
Love All your videos Dr. Westman, one of the best and so calm.
Now 71 and on the keto diet for 8 years I did it to normalize high blood-pressure. I was a plasma donor and saw my blood-pressure measured every time before donating about 24 times a year and in my country it is voluntary for all blood donations. but I was rejected twice with a lower blood pressure over 93 although it usually was not that high. Then for sport diving I had to have a general checkup and my values were all over the place. I knew that a keto diet would possibly solve this and did not get on meds as my GP suggested but but said that I would do this Atkins diet. During an all-in vacation at the Red Sea I tried out the diet as there was plenty meats to choose from and when I got home 2 weeks later my blood-pressure was normalized. Lately I restart measuring my blood-pressure in the morning after sitting and shaving and it always is between 65 an 78. In the 2 years I'm now measuring it has never exceeded 85.
Now if something is bad for heart decease it high blood-pressure. I hope one day I can convince my GP that I am OK. I lost 13 kg but I also slowly lost all arthritis like joint pains in my shoulders, hips and knees and also no longer have to deal with nerve twitching in my feet. As A kid I had a climbing accident and also had a compacting fracture in my right femur and so on that side the leg is almost 2" shorter. I was expecting to be the first requiring hip replacement prosthesis surgery but I now still liver in my house with stairs and have no problem climbing up and down these stairs nor at my old workplace where I regularly climb/jog 4 stairs of about 4 m or 13 " although I do need to ketch my breath after the last one I feel no problem with my feet, knees of hips.
I do take supplements D3 10.000 IU and B12 1000 mcg My mother also needed High B12 to avoid anemic problems and I can get pretty dizzy rising after kneeling or crouching , but I just recently discovered that within days the dizziness is over.
All I can say is he should try it. Might calm him down and put some colour in his pasty cheeks. I was vegetarian for 7 years and had many health issues I put down to age. I'm a 67 year old woman, been doing animal based for 137 days. Osteoarthritis has receded, along with other health issues. I have more energy I feel amazing. I've lost 18 pounds, my clothes fit better. Eyesight has improved. A twitch under my eye has gone, I can move better, I am stronger and fitter than I've been for years. My cardio vascular health is excellent and oxygen levels are 100%. What can't speak can't lie.
Wow , also 67 years old and am on an Ayurvedic diet for VATA as fasting doesn’t work for me at all … it throws me off completely , have bone marrow disease & Osteo … believe however in cutting out sugars which always aggravated my system … interesting is for me this carnivore diet lol 😂 I have never been overweight though , more always struggled with keeping my weight 🌟🩷🌟thank you for your comment
Making sense out of goofy nonsense makes for a great video. Thanks, Dr. Westman.
Once again Dr Westman to the rescue! My there are some misinformed people trying to influence others. Dr Westman thank you for staying grounded, objective and fair. You are such an inspiration 👏🏻👍🫶💝
Never seen such an angry Kale Bunny😂
A wonderful piece of education !
Snap you named it doc. It's ALL about the numbers, hits on the tube, views. Bottom line boosting their numbers regardless of whether you're bashing someone, not truly caring. Thanks for the critique doctor. It takes a level head and calm heart to present different views without the dramatic dogma, fear mongering, etc. Thanks again doctor W.❤
Mic the Vegan is definitely getting some of the same money that funds The American Heart Association!
You know, from food and pharmaceutical companies! ❤😂
Years ago doctors said normal cholesterol is about 140 then that didn’t reduce anything dropped to 100., now my doctor said 70 , I just laughed!
I was vegetarian for 10 years. In that 10 years my BP went from normal to 180/95, my triglycerides jumped way up, my LDL went up, my total cholesterol went to 217 and my HDL went below normal. I gained 25 pounds, have dangerously low B12 levels, low D3, got sleep apnea and lost all my physical fitness. I’m now on blood pressure medication, psyllium husk, multivitamins and low dose aspirin. Yesterday I began eating meat again with plans to try carnivore diet in hopes to reverse the damage done by the plant based diet.
Its very strange why me being a carnivore most of my life has not affected my health in a negative way... I'm now 70 yrs old and feel as fit as I was at 30 at 170 lbs... I can eat till I'm full and I DO NOT put on weight... However, during the early 2020's when were advised by the media, medical & food industries to eat five a day, with plenty of fibre, to cut down on meat, fat and protein as its caused strokes and heart disease, I ballooned to an unhealthy 224lbs.... After being like this for around ten years, feeling sluggish, low energy, being fat and being told it was just the onset of age and not understanding why, I decided to go back to what I was told by a Royal Navy MD in 1969, to lose weight fast and safely without going hungry, was to cut out the sugar and starch!! It works!! I think we've been seriously lied to and also the vegan vegetarian agenda because they don't like killing animals to eat!!! Well unfortunately for them mother nature dictates that we are carnivore/omnivore... I like a bit of veg now again and an apple, but I wouldn't want to live on it! When I look at this vegan I see the same as I see in all vegans and vegetarians.... Highly stressed because carnivores eat animals!! Well guess what vegans, so do loins, tigers alligators etc!!! So please do us all a favour and do your own thing without getting stressed out about us carnivores.... We are happy if you're not!! You are what you consume!!
Can’t wait for the Lean Mass Hyper Responder paper due before the end of this year. Heard it will be worth the wait.
I have met MANY people with 'plant based diseases and allergies' over the years but I have NEVER met anyone allergic to T-Bones, pork chops, rib eye steak or any other animal based food.
Such a good point. I have so many fruit and veggies allergies but zero to animal products
Thank you very much for detailed and thoughtful analysis. As a scientist myself you set a very high standard for how to disagree on the interpretation of information. Your video was a learning experience on two levels, the analysis of the blood work (with references to resources) and analysis of interpretation. The next time I disagree with someone on data, I will visualize how you do it.
Very well said Dr. Westman . Thank you!
Remember that weird kid in grade 3 who would spew out all kinds of bragging 'know-it-all' kind of stuff and annoy everyone? He grew up.
but did he? really?!
He says that eating algae provides omega 3, and by not eating fish you are cutting out the middle man
Conclusion: mic the Vegan is a fish
Dr Robert Lustig pointed out in one interview that humans doesn't benefit as well to algae as small fish does, small fish and plankton that subsequently get eaten by larger fish that benefits us more to consume.
interesting, Dr Sten Ekberg said that eating the smaller fish are better since they have lower mercury content as far as I remember. I def don't agree with Mic the vegan fish :D @@johannas.l.brushane2518 Ive also seen other things were people get colonics and then all this dark gunk from the algae and spirulina they consumed gets released...disgusting
Again, thank you so much for doing this. Necessary info for our sanity with all the vehemence going on. I love your "cool". ❤
I think Dr. Anthony chaffee or Dr. Sean Baker does this whole thing about animals that are killed in animal agriculture compared to the number of animals killed growing crops
And also the 100s of square miles of monoculture is an environmental desert for most animals, killing them off by depriving them of their habitat.
It's interesting just how much healthier she looks compared to him!!
Wow. you're scaring me, I best change my diet right now and get back to feeling all that pain in my joints and muscles because you know I will live a longer and happier life beyond my current 67 years.
Easy to follow and well explained. Just great
Was on keto/carnivore eating for a year and lost 25 pounds and am taking hardly any BP meds and my pending type two diabetes is history. Im now eating almost 100 percent carnivore for a few months and lost another 20 lbs and pain level is down my allergies are almost non existent my BP is 120/78 most days and im better in so many ways than a couple years ago. Im 66 and still working and leading a very active life. Unless it's a have to case I'm never going back to carbs
My endocrinologist ignores the ldl number. He wants to see my triglycerides and hdl ratio, mine being less than one. He says that many of his diabetic patients can have normal ldl but none have trigs below 100, which he says is optimal. He wants the ratio lower than 2, although he says closer to one is better than closer to 2. He never saw low ratios until low carb patients started coming in.
Someone should ask Mic if coconut is okay. Saturated and non animal. It does not increase ldl.
The old paradigm is high ldl in carb eaters on mixed diets. A friend of mine, vegan for 30+ years, nonsmoking, nondrinking lifelong runner failed a stress test and now had 3+ stents, including in the widowmaker. He blames genetics, not his high carb diet. Sigh.