Historian Gets Mad at BATTLEFIELD 1 | The Runner (Battle of Gallipoli 1915)
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
- Amateur Historian reacts and breaks down the Landings at Cape Helles (1915) from the Gallipoli Campaign as depicted in BATTLEFIELD 1. It depicts Australian soldiers taking part in an amphibious landing against Ottoman positions.
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Can you please react to glory
@historylegends you should make a video game or movie that isn’t pure garbage lol
@Yap yap the destroyer what
@Yap yap the destroyer I was talking about the games historical accuracy that he reacts to
Go play the games instead of reacting to static video
The cap is definitely historically accurate. The slash peak whoever was only ever acceptable for senior nco's
The most historically inaccurate part of all this is how many whites there are. Everyone knows it was mostly Black men and some Indians who fought WW1
@@teru797 LOL. Not really, no
@@fischersfritz468 you sound like a white supremacist. are you racist have you not played the game it's mostly blacks in WW1 white stole credit black lives matter
Mans so mad over an anzac uniform, get klapped man, look at your books again, and see the blue shirts, the reason he had a cape is because his bio IS "Pride of Australia." He is also real, and thanks to @Ian Mills, we know that they were allowed with the cap, plus the history legend guy gets so mad, over very little things. @HistoryLegends Take a second to read before you post stupid crap about very little details.
And they wore it in three wars! Three! WW1, WW2, Vietnam (Vietnam Was very little blue shirts btw.)
As an Irishman I’m surprised that we’re not taught about any of this, most Irish history that happened under British history is usually swept under the rug
Same for Wales. The royals still call us lazy Trolls in their books
Not strictly true as in secondary history you can learn either early modern 1400s to 1800s so covering Irish history. World history etc or later modern with ww2 Irish independence, Northern Ireland America or India depending. As far as I’m aware it’s down to the teacher as mostly later modern is much easier to know and learn because of relevance and it’s still new history so it’s not like we aren’t taught about it flat out it’s straight up what’s easiest to write about in the exam.
The boys in the Dal are too busy pushing for LGBT to be taught at school. They don't want to teach kids anything too patriotic in any case they become too nationalistic about their country. We've had a page a fockin page about Michael Collins in history which is sad as I went to Hamilton High (Former Garda Barracks) where Collins was actually kept prisoner .
Are you related to Stefan by chance?
An Irishman with a French name lol
Ireland is full of history, schools shouldn’t be focused on teaching the Irish about their oppressor’s history.
It’s much more important to learn about the Easter Rising and the war of independence/civil war during this time period. That’s Irish history.
Its not realistic but it definetly feels authentic.
Wonder why the next 2 games couldn’t even match up to bf1s atmosphere
Authenticity is what matters. If the game was realistic it wouldn't get fun at all. Imagine getting shot once and game over. If we wanted realism we'd join the real army.
Both. It's not realistic nor authentic
@@ACM1PT95 Better than cod which pump 2 ww2 in 2 years . While battlefield something new 'WW1' .
@@ACM1PT95 some gears are inaccurate, but this is not a justification to say that bf1 is trash, just look at all the positive things
Battlefield 1 is better than vanguard battle of empires for PC depicts gallipoli accurately with the Australians in the British campaign.
Yeah and I don’t understand why historylegends is always getting mad, it should at least say “Historian reacts to Battlefield 1” not “Historian gets mad”
@@warbandplaysAU9178 I believe the story mode should be accurate as possible but getting gallipoli incorrect is shocking I swear the Australians wore blue and the British and commonwealth wore a similar uniform gallipoli is the WW1 D day.
@@Bravo5SoldierLT Simple because this is a clickbait ploy to promote his books. And even then their is still comments correcting him, because his knowledge of firearms is sometimes lacking.
@@KSmithwick1989 what mainly promotes to me is when his videos say “Historian reacts”, but when his videos say, “Historian gets mad” I’m just all, “oh god, what the hell did he get mad at this time?”
@@Bravo5SoldierLT Haha, so real. I started watching parts his videos for that reasons. The "reactions" are really wooden and repetitive.
Any Historian can get mad at tiny details but looking back Battlefield 1 was the most historically accurate video game ever and since BF2042 nobody can complain
BF1 was nit historically accurate.
What about Battlefield 1942 and Vietnam?
BF1 is historically authentic at least.
It is most accurate than most arcade style video games, but obviously serious mil sims are more accurate than BF1 when it comes to history
I think one of the main reasons they might have mentioned the ANZACs first is becausr of how the Gallipoli Campaign is considered an enormous part of Australian cultural heritage.
Regarding how Australians and Kiwis see each other, we're almost like siblings in the sense that Australia gives NZ shit and vice versa but we are still incredibly close Allies.
Yeah I think it makes sense to have the ANZAC's first.
yeah i thought the same, the battle for gallipoli was australia and new zealand’s first time fighting under their own flag. we created international identities in the process, that’s why we think of the anzac when talking about gallipoli
Hey mate, just some things to point out!
2:00 - firstly, in the five campaigns you play, three of which are heavily focused on the British and American side, any other member of the allies is pretty much non-existent up until the Italian and Gallipoli campaigns.
3:14 I believe he’s wearing a ground sheet/poncho, I have no idea why he’s wearing it like a cape.
3:40 even though conscription wasn’t a thing, a lot of boys still lied about their age. The youngest is believed to be Jim Martin who died at Gallipoli at 14 due to typhoid fever. I believe this is just an error in the wording.
19:04 basically like brothers who have their feuds. The closet thing I can compare it to is probably Canada and USA
23:09 I’ve seen one source say that there could have been 50 Australian Aboriginal soldiers at Gallipoli, at the time Australia had the “White Australia Policy” barring anyone who wasn’t white from Australia, this also came into the military when non-white servicemen weren’t allowed. I remember seeing a medical discharge paper for an aboriginal soldier at an exhibition, it was really quite horrible and sad. I think if they wanted to diversify they could’ve added the famous Australian sniper Billy Sing, whose father was Chinese. He was officially the best sniper at Gallipoli, with around 150 confirmed kills and an estimated total of around 200 confirmed kills. He apparently had a “sniper duel” with a Turkish sniper named Abdul the Terrible (name Korkunç Abdül). He died alone as an alcoholic after the war.
25:13 lastly, it’s common because there definitely was a big divide between the two groups. The British saw the Australians and New Zealanders as nothing more than sons of a penal colony, this was only perpetuated when the Australian got in a lot of trouble for stealing company rum, playing impractical jokes on the British etc. the British officers definitely treated their local combat groups much better than the commonwealth soldiers, even Australian general John Monash would complain in a letter about the lack of recognition for the Australian sacrifice by the British public. The story in that game is that the old dude has to go and rescue around a platoons worth of wounded who are stuck, it would make sense that the British would fire artillery to cover their retreat.
Edits- spelling mistakes
Very interesting! Thank you 🙏
I was going to comment a few of the things you said but holy crap this guys video was like watching those cringe tiktok pranks and he even responded to your comment like joe bided lmao
Only full-blooded Aboriginals were barred from serving, for the same reason they were banned from consuming opium and alcohol. To protect them. Mixed race men were allowed to volunteer, and many did.
The "White Australia Policy" never actually existed. It's a loosely defined term for a series of immigration acts enacted in the early 1900s, most notably the Immigration Restriction Act (1901) and the Pacific Island Labourers Act (1901). I know they teach you in school these days that it was to keep anyone that wasn't white out of Australia, that's bullshit. The Immigration Restriction Act specifically targeted Chinese migrants, that's it. The Pacific Island Labourers Act was enacted to cut down on the number of Islanders being blackbirded and forced into indentured servitude on Queensland cane farms. There was never any government policy that banned non-whites from settling in Australia, and small numbers of Black, Asian, Arabian and Pacific Islanders settled in Australia at what was supposed to be the peak of the powers of the White Australia Policy.
Because it's a cape first. The 37 (cape) and 58 (poncho) pattern webbing came with their own rain protection which was rain protection first, anything else after.
Show me the legislation titled: _”White Australia Policy”_
Or are you conveniently engaging in classic radical _(left)_ historical revisionism?
Cherry picking laws and pointing out that Australians happen to be white - you do understand that people are born Citizens, correct?
That’s what citizenship is - it’s inherited from a people. Obviously that’s going to be correlated with some genetic traits.
_”This country shall remain forever the home of the descendants of those people who came here in peace in order to establish in the South Seas an outpost of the British race.”_
-Note that _“British Race”_ isn’t _”White Race”_ - your modern race politics is a distortion of basic law and language regarding nationality.
While you’re at it, feel free to provide the background for the _”Asian Japan Policy,”_ and every other nation with the same laws.
You might be better off looking at Israel, China, India, Saudi Arabia, virtually any nation on the planet.
"Lied about his age to get past conscription..."
So he lied... to become a conscript? He was voluntarily a conscript?
conscription here just means "the recruitment process", even though it doesn't. it's pretty surprising to me that this many people go out of their way to be strict on it and limit their own understanding. its clearly what they meant.
The East African front is something that I think everyone forgets and I would love to see more about it
The one where the British fought a German commander and his Afrikaner troops correct? I forget his name, but he returned to Germany as a hero.
Edit: Sorry, forgot to add the y to the end of the word, Germany.
@@thearnorianruby4681 Yeah it is very interesting. I don't see we games haven't used it loads already since there were loads colonial troops on both sides.
@@thearnorianruby4681 Rommel, the Desert Fox
@@zh2266 right. Much appreciated.
@@thearnorianruby4681 Paul Von Lettow Vorbeck
As an Australian the runner mission really stuck out to me, it was so weird to play so many shooters but only have Australia in one of them
Have you tried Squad out?
Australia is in many, just not mainstream console titles
TF2 lol
4:38
They actually did that photo in the MP map called “Cape Heles”
Also the uniforms are Well-made to the multiplayer again, but that came in a DLC
The uniforms in Bf1 on the side of the Central Powers are pretty low effort: Germans, Ottomans and Austro-Hungarians are practically all wearing the same uniforms (or rather base skins), just in different colours and just partially with different headgear.
The original one is the imperial german "field-grey" uniform m1907/10 with "brandenburg cuffs" (three buttons in a row on each cuff) and red piping from the outbreak of WW1 in 1914. However, they didn't even get that design quite right (some details are wrong). Also, they are using obviously Wehrmacht Y-straps from WW2.
The other two Central Powers have the exact same base skins (including Y-straps from WW2, ammo pouches and boots), just re-coloured white for the Ottomans and re-coloured "stone-grey" for the Austro-Hungarians. They
even "enhanced" some of the red elements. And while the Ottomans were re-coloured khaki later on, they still wear the same base skins (including the equipment pieces).
This leads to Ottomans and Austro-Hungarian soldiers featuring "brandenburg cuffs" they never had, while missing chest pockets they actually had.
Depending on the soldier class, only the caps are actually ottoman or austro-hungarian and not german ones (though it is accurate that both used german helmets, too).
Seriously, you can't blame this design mess on bad research, anymore, this is pure laziness (likely due to economic reasons - but this gets even more embarrasing for Bf1 when recalling that an indie game like "Verdun" managed to portray each nation's uniform mostly accurate).
That first image of the fort you showed was actually what the galipoli multiplayer map is like where the Australians vs Ottomans in operations mode
I must say your reactions to historical movies, and games are some of the best I've seen. I don't know if I asked you but I was wondering if you could do a reaction to The Thin Red Line because that was a pretty realistic World War II movie depicting the Pacific pretty well👍
I learned more history from this guy than my entire school career of history classes.
i don't understand all this hate against bf1 for some inaccuracies, i mean, all the stuff that we see in bf1 really existed, prototypes included, Dice made an awesome job, they made a lot of research, some gears are innacurate for the year and stuff like this, but they didn't put fake stuff in the game.
they never said that this was supposed to be a simulative game, the whole ww1 atmosphere is in the game, jeez.. i'm a guy who study ww1/2 history, but damn, i don't see all this need to cover with shit the game.
Is the game set in ww1? yes
did they made research? yes
does it feel ww1? obviously
so, there's no need to say that bf1 is trash just beacuse ''the cap here was no used until 1916, we are in 1915, this game is trash''
look at all the positive things that the game have..
but these videos that make this man are so amazing because can actually make people who don't know history nicely, get more informed .
I agree I think it’s a fun game and the historical accuracy is very good and mostly accurate
@@ELIASREXZERO there are some inaccuracies but it's not like invented stuff etc. Everything that is in the game existed, everything in the game is based by real things, they have a base of truth
Agreed. Despite the inaccuracies, I can still play it and enjoy it. It's about execution not strictly sticking to the facts.
Your comment makes me remember of a discussion between me and a friend of mine that was mad about the new Isonzo trailer because there were some trees on the map. Like, I know on 3000 mt very few trees grow, even fewer on the Dolomiti, but for just 2/3 trees calling a game still to come out "utterly garbage" is just dumb, futile and childish.
@@supercasta6642 yeah people acts so childish, I love ww1/2 history and the games about them.
But calling a masterpiece like bf1 trash, because, "this helmet wasn't used until 1918" "zeppelins didn't flew so low" is acting like a moron.
The important thing is the atmosphere, is ww1? Yes.
It feels ww1? Yes, so is fine.
If the stuff that we see in this kind of games have a base of truth, is fine.
A lot of ww1/2 games are not completely accurate, but calling them shitty because there are some inaccuracies, Bruh.
Another great analysis, I was so happy when they announced BF1 was having a Gallipoli group of missions. I think they captured some details quite well but like you say they missed an opportunity to show the Irish contribution from the River Clyde. They could have done a mission each for the Irish, Anzac and British Landing really and not mixed everything together.
My great grandfather landed as part of the suvla bay attack in August. He was in 6th royal Munster fusiliers as part of a Lewis gun team. He then fought in Greece, Yugoslavia, Gaza/Jerusalem and then finished the war in France. Lucky to be alive I guess, wish I knew him, have his service medal and from that could find a few things out about his units service during the war.
nice timing for the video, today is the anniversary of the Naval Battle for the Gallipoli
One of my grandparents died during Gallipoli campaign, and I am living in Çanakkale; the city which gallipoli is located at. I would say geography is okay for the game but real terrain is far more different than the one in-game. Also ottoman troops didn't use flamethrowers or fancy weapons like those in the game. For the record, ottoman army only had less than 1 million rifles for the army, and half of them were Martini-Henry rifles. Only 300k of them were 1893 turkish mauser which mostly saw service at gallipoli; because it was closer to Constantinople, hence it was easy to deliver the supplies
nevertheless I think it was an okay mission, not the best when it comes to historic accuracy though
In regards to the “human with high melanin” near the end of the video, that would be a representation of an Indigenous Australian soldier who served in Gallipoli. 70 Indigenous Australians served in Gallipoli but I’m not sure if they would have been present for that advance
We wuz kangz n shit
I do love it when somebody applies accurate historical knowledge to these fantasy epics masquerading as actual history. Side note - always hated (once got seriously threatened in Australia) for simply pointing out Gallipoli was not just an Australian tragedy. Australia's 8,709 dead is horrific. But I can't forget my mum's uncle Dick - who landed with the Lancashire Fusilier's and came home shot through the mouth and stomach - one of the 78,520 wounded, along with 34,072 dead the UK suffered. But Gallipoli seems to now be just an Australian, or ANZAC event.
Yeah cause ANZACS did most of the fighting and achieved a lot
@@coreysoupe2611 Yep. Really accurate, non partisan history. Nobody else there.
It's not just because "Australians died" that Gallipoli is seen as such an Aussie (or more accurately, an ANZAC) tragedy. It's because of the scale relative to our size. In 1915 the Australian population was roughly 5 million people. The amount that served? ~415k off the top of my head. That's about 8% of the entire population of a tiny country fighting a pointless war on the other side of the world. About 50k of them served at Gallipoli alone, and with numbers like that you should surmise that every single family in Australia had someone, or knew of someone fighting in the Dardanelles. Also, when Aussies talk about Gallipoli, we're not talking about the entire campaign as a whole, we're specifically talking about the massacre that was Anzac cove, where Aussies were sent by pommy dogs to die for absolutely no good reason, compounded by the horseshit planning of the admiralty, which kick-started our spirit of nationhood. It serves as a symbol on why we shouldn't fight Britain's pointless wars, and risk unbelievable amounts of our young to the horrors of war, both in Gallipoli and in France.
So yeah, no wonder you got threatened, you're shitting on the families of most Australians when you act like a massive selfish twat when you ignore all of what makes Gallipoli significant to us. I like the Brits, I have massive respect for them and I see our nations as almost brothers, but you're just an absolute dog cunt, and deserve to be treated like one.
@@James-mn3re 100% brother
@@James-mn3re damn straight
Love to see new vids
Sheesh, you don't miss a thing! Great video, very informative.
I definitely want to see more about this game. I love this game and still play it to this day, didn't know a lot about how historically inaccurate so it would be interesting to see the other campaigns
Great video! Totally agree with you, we british seem to get a bad wrap when it comes to ww1 and ww2 for some reason. Also, I don't understand why they don't invest in hiring a team of historians to work with them on historical games or even a couple of historians just to sign off the game and give it the green light. I guess it comes down to money but still I think it should be prioritised as you say this is how the youth learn of past events and the Gurkas are very impressive soldiers like the Canadians when it comes to war.
What are you talking about they clearly did alot of research and had the aid of historians. You have to understand this is a Battlefield game. If they made the WW1 experience 100% realistic it would be a boring video game. Yet despite this, DICE produced an authentic feeling WW1 experience and got alot historically right, especially compared to other historical shooters like Vanguard. The odd cap being a year early doesn't warrant hate.
mate please watch all the videos they made on how they made these weapons and vehicles in game
They got the ship in the foreground, for the bombardment. At first thought it would be a HMS Queen Elizabeth, which was present during the battle. However, closer inspection I realized that's not a Queen Elizabeth class; it's an Iron Duke class. However, NONE of the Iron Dukes were present; they were all in the Grand Fleet up at Scapa Flow. You can see it has 10 guns not 8, which the Queen Elizabeth had 8 guns.
I also thought it might've been an Orion class, since that had a similar Armament to the Iron Duke. However, the ship in the foreground has a tripod mast which would indicate an Iron Duke.
In short, no, it's not correct. That ship is an Iron Duke class bit NONE of the Iron Dukes were present during the battle. If they wanted a Dreadnought battleship, then they really should've gone for HMS Queen Elizabeth, since it was present during the battle. Otherwise they would've had to use a Pre-dreadnought battleship. Most of the allied capital ships comprised of Pre-dreadnoughts during the battle.
Yep, and that's the truly tragic part of Gallipoli. The ground troops were landed to protect the ships sent to force the straits, and the only reason those ships were there was _because they were losable._
@@PhoenixT70 The ground forces were sent in because the ships failed to break through the Strait due, Ottoman fortifications and mines
@@Starfleet8555 Not entirely. The commanders also didn’t want to lose the ships they had served on as lower officers, and the bitter irony is that the ships themselves were entirely expendable. If you lost a pre-dreadnought in the dreadnought era (after a few years of buildup), you really didn’t lose anything worth writing home about because a pre-dreadnought was useless against a dreadnought. These ships were just going to be scrapped after the war anyway; the logic was, “Let’s put them to use, and if we lose them, it doesn’t really matter.” Cold comfort for their crews, but fairly sound logic.
they sample a dreadnought for use in the game and then they use that model as the dreadnought model in game. They use the same model for any time a dreadnought is deployed on any map/mission regardless of the country using it because its a dreadnought and thats really all they need. They don't need to make a different dreadnought model for every single map and country because that would be ridiculous. The dreadnoughts during the war all looked relatively the same so for gameplay purposes there is no need to constantly make a new variant for everything just because one slightly different looking class that had a different mast was used at Gallipolli vs what was used at Heligoland which is one of the multiplayer maps. If they did that they would have to do it for every piece of equipment, uniform, tank, and so on and so on for every map or campaign which is a whole lot of unnecessary work and time and hard drive space vs just using the one goddamn dreadnought model.
What’s funny is that for the multiple player mode the Turks have correct uniforms but the British still dint
In the turning tides Gallipoli maps the British and the ottomans are wearing correct uniforms.
Actually, not even in that case...
In Bf1, the uniforms of the Central Powers were designed with low effort: Germans, Ottomans and Austro-Hungarians are practically all wearing the same uniforms (or rather base skins), just in different colours and just partially with different headgear.
The original base skin is the imperial german "field-grey" uniform m1907/10 with "brandenburg cuffs" (three buttons in a row on each cuff) and red piping from the outbreak of WW1 in 1914.
However, they didn't even get that design quite right (some details are wrong). Also, they are using obviously Wehrmacht Y-straps from WW2.
The other two Central Powers have the exact same base skins (including Y-straps from WW2, ammo pouches and boots), just re-coloured white for the Ottomans and re-coloured "stone-grey" for the Austro-Hungarians. They
even "enhanced" some of the red elements.
And while the Ottomans were re-coloured khaki later on, they still wear the same base skins (including the equipment pieces).
This leads e.g. to Ottoman soldiers featuring "brandenburg cuffs" they never had, while Austro-Hungarian soldiers are missing chest pockets they actually had.
@@nyda2452
Not the chest pockets. Now my immersion is completely ruined
@@Arsontapir It’s not just chest pockets on their own. It’s all of the little things adding up that create something that doesn’t look right.
@@toadkillerdog4282 toad you here lol ?
Looks like I'm learning something more from you. You corrected various details I never knew the game had or I think I know.
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
Dude! Your humor only keeps getting better 😂😂
As a limy Brit I want to ask if you think there's an anti british sentiment around popular media right now? We all know that the British empire was tyrannical and there were atrocities committed, but it was the same for all western European countries like France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium and the Netherlands yet they seem to get away with it. Whenever I see historical media I get the feeling they try to down play the UK contribution or in some cases, portray them as villains with them being stuck up, arrogant and cowardly. Im fascinated by history so I want these nations and people to be portrayed as they actually were. Like all empires before the British and European empires weren't all good but at the same time weren't all bad. When I see people claiming the British today want to colonise everything is the same as people claiming all Germans are Nazis's.
PS: And as someone of Irish descent, i'd love more content about the Irish in WW1.
welcome to humanity where everyone is an asshole and tries to paint others as ''evil'' even thoe we all know everything is lot more complex than just mere good and evil
I really wish this game was more like the old cods.
I think you should do a small series on cod 2, or even just the last american mission.
It really make you feel like those last american hold outs
Still more historically accurate then Vanguard
@@puneetdhillon4770 amen to that
He'd have fun with that game, to be sure. Especially the part where Panzer II Light Tank was apparently able to go toe-to-toe with Crusader Cruiser Tanks.
Great analysis! One minor thing though. When referring to front part of a ship bow is pronounced like bou. I don't blame you for that mistake since we sailors have a long history of pronouncing things differently from everyone else.
Love those videos. Please make one with every world war battlefield campaign
I am interested in the multiple strokes, mental breakdowns and aneurysms if you reacted to some of the Battlefield V missions
If you're looking for a good ww1 Gallipoli show (it is pretty historically accurate) it's on Netflix it's called Gallipoli. It's good you should watch it
Really good in-depth exploration of the details. Wasn't there a unit badge on the Australian hats?!
No. Today, different units and corps have different badges but back then the cap and collar badge was the same - the rising Sun badge (formed by bayonets). Units were differentiated by shoulder patches in ww1 - mean the patches sewn on to the arm sleeve, not actually on top of the shoulder
If i not mistaken, they hired indy neidell as a freelancer to do the information at the beginning and end of the mission.
Great work.
Could you react to the Italian mission too ? I guess you will produce a fine video as well 🤣
P.s.
You are doing an amazing job 🤙🏻
yes, that armored guy resisting airplane bullets must be amazing when analyzed
Love this Dude👍
Oh god when you mentioned the possibility of the “time to go” line being a possible foreshadowing, it reminded me of the Gallipoli movie and now I’m sad
More bro these are fun to watch
Bro got me questioning this game now
I will never be able to play a game like this again
I mean they made it as accurate as they could back then, it actually let people start to focus Ww1 again which a lot more Ww1 related games came out, so it's a w I guess
(I'm also pretty sure this dude is playing in the easiest difficulty, it could explain why there is only so much Turkish soldiers during the entire campaign missions for this side of the war)
I feel inaccuracies are kinda overshadowed by the story the meaning behind, and in almost all stories they don't try to dehumaniz each side. But that's just my opinion
I feel like you will have a heart attack if you watch the nordlys war story in battlefield 5
I’ll reserve a bed at the hospital
Honestly even though I'm younger generation I usually don't believe the games, and I usually do own research and stuff and read books about it
Fun fact, not these subtitles, but the ones you see during loading screens, were written by ‘The Great War’ RUclips channel
I don't know if you did it on purpose or not but today is the anniversary of this war. So, kudos either way.
I really liked your analysis and takeaways. I really appreciate the effort you put into this. I understand its frustrating most of the time. And if this angered you this much, don't watch the Arabian theatre mission, you'd go mental (actually please watch it, i'd pay top dollar to see that).
Also i like your channel a lot, I discovered through a friend who sent me your first Russian-Ukrainian war analysis. Subscribed since then.
Your kind words mean a lot to me! Thank you 🙏
What anniversary? The Gallipoli invasion began on 25 April. It is celebrated every year in Britain but especially in Australia and New Zealand, where it is the most sacred day of remembrance.
Hey, love your analysis, when will the next update on Ukraine will come? I am eager to watch your analysis of current situation
I really like your reactions to historical games to and movies. I can recommend you to make a reaction to call of duty world at war which is probably one of the best depictions of the second world war that video games has to offer.
Amazing video, absolutely love this content. However, cylindrical grenade that looks very similar to a Mills bomb? a) Where are the improvised jam jars and b) Mills bombs weren't available until just before the evacuation in December.
I feel bad for you man. Plus, seeing a historian mad, my type of video. But having a history class in 8th grade, I feel you.
Still more realistic and accurate than BFV's war story mission that takes place in Norway.
If he took a look at the multiplayer maps I think he would like them much better. As they have less of the fantasy trenches however they are not as closely based on real location.
Nice video
this mission always annoyed me the fact that the aussies are on V beach in cape helles and not Gaba Tepe AKA ANZAC cove and that they show them on the River Clyde Rather than the men of the 2nd Battalion Hampshire Regiment and 1st Battalion Royal Munster Fusiliers and 1st Battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers. these men were cut down as they left the collier but fought on they should be remembered.
The Hampshire's especially get forgotten thanks to things like Wikipedia and other sources. The actual Name plate of the River Clyde is in there Regimental museum. I've had to edit Wiki myself to correct the wrongs. it brings alot of anger as ive met some of the guys who were there from the battalion and who saw the carnage.
The Frederick Bishop you referenced did fight at Gallipoli, just didn’t die there.
Just a correction. Australian troops WERE brought down to cape helles. It was actually relatively easily to move up and down that beach line and many units did so.
The Australians basically made their reputation during the second battle of krithia when after a day of fruitless attacks by British and French forces, which gained no territory, the Australians advanced at the end of the day in the face of ferocious fire (some Australians, famously, advanced using shovels as ‘umbrellas’ against bullets) and made the only gain of the day - can’t remember how deep that attack penetrated but it was a lot by the standards of Gallipoli. It was the last meaningful gain of ground of the campaign.
The Australian advance at second krithia featured in many British correspondence and reports of the battle. That said, there were no Australians outside of Anzac cove on 25 April 1915.
Also, there is a fantastic Australian tv series - Gallipoli - released in 2015 to coincide with the 100th anniversary of the campaign. As an ex Australian infantryman with a deep interest in the Gallipoli campaign I can confirm it’s quite accurate, although it focuses on a very small part of the campaign.
There were actually Germans at Gallipoli. One of the positions at Anzac cove was known as German Officers Trench. That said, the stahl helm was never used at Gallipoli. Australians went into action in the British cap on 25 April but became so dismissive of British forces that they quickly switched to the Australian slouch hat - the khaki fur felt (it was also more practical in the heat).
There were a number of Australians in their 50s at Gallipoli, mostly officers. The commander of the 3rd light horse brigade was in his 50s and that appears to have had a significant effect in his performance during the disaster at the Nek on 7 August.
Australians and New Zealanders have great respect for each other. Australians and New Zealanders can take the piss out of each other - tease each other - but if you attack one, you attack both. I don’t think Canadians and Americans are like that.
The Mel Gibson movie Gallipoli inaccurately portrays the situation of the runners during the battle at the nek. In fact the confusion in communications on the day was due to the brigadier in command of the 3rd light horse brigade not being where he was supposed to be, and the other colonel in command of the 10th light horse getting out of touch while trying to find him. That miscommunication had nothing to do with runners - it was the officers (who incidentally all hated each other) who were the problem. The commander and 2ic of the 3rd light brigade were both sent back to Australia after the battle of the Nek, along with the 10th light horse commander.
The ghurkas served at Anzac cove. Lord slim, who later commanded the Chindits in Burma and was for a time the Governor General of Australia after ww2 (a position he requested due to his admiration for Australians he served with at Anzac) , was one of their officers. Sadly the ghurkas were largely destroyed at Anzac during the August offensive when mistakenly bombarded by British naval fire (which seriously wounded slim). One of their senior NCOs was left in charge and won a VC - largely because he didn’t speak English and didn’t understand the order for the ghurkas to withdraw.
Very interesting information, a pleasure to read. Actually this reaction was a warmup for the 2015 TV series. The way they portray the battle of the Nek is so good!
@@historylegends Cool. I look foward to your review of the 2015 series.
I got the bit about Slim wrong. He had a contingent of Gurkhas with him during the august offensive but he wasn't a gurkha officer himself at Gallipoli (he joined the gurkhas in 1918). He was severely wounded just before the bombardment that hit the gurkhas.
Another error in the Mel Gibson version of Gallipoli is that the lt col of the 10th light horse stood his men down after the 3rd wave had gone over (half of the 10th light). However, due to the confusion both ends of the 4th wave line went over the top. Those ends of the trench line both sloped down into dead ground and that meant that they were able to advance a small way without being seen and shot at. They still didnt get very far but casualties in the 4th wave were relatively light because the men that went over were in cover and didnt run (they mostly crawled and crouched from small re-entrant to re-entrant. Many of these men rescued wounded men who had rolled off the plateau on the Nek.
The commander of the 3rd ligh horse brigade was not a horseman - he was an artilleryman and despite being in the army for about 30 years had never seen action (Australian artillery were not requested for the Boer War). His 2ic - Antill - was a cavalryman but was a notorious bully. Both clashed badly with the commander of the 10th ligt horse regiment, largely because the 10th light was more or less the 'aristocracy" of western australia's horsemen and resented being commanded by an non-cavalry man and hated Antill's bullying discipline. There was a lot of conflict among the three men. They actually initially left the 10th light's commander in Egypt with the brigade hq people because of that. When the 8th light horse went over their lt col (white) went with them and was killed in the first wave, along with most of the officers. So when the 10th lights commander asked for the waves to stop (after the first wave) the 8th lights commander wasnt there to support him and the brigade 2ic wasnt in any mood to listen to him. The brigadier was ill and was away from the support trench. The result was pretty tragic.
I think the multiplayer version of Gallipoli in bf1 has a much more accurate map design than in the campaign. I may be wrong tho
15:40 Actually the germans didnt make them. They just sent regular helmets, which later were made custom in the Ankara Arms Factory.
Please, if you can, review the Brothers in Arms trilogy, I remember those being great tactical games
They legit used the German outfit on ottomans but changed the color to white
On max difficulty the defense is much more realistic, machine guns are constantly on your steps and almost every soldier approaching the beach dies. Also in the tranches there are more soldiers.
OMG THANKS YOU!! PLS AN OTHER WITH BATTLEFIELD 5 Last tiger cutscene.
It may not be THAT historically accurate but the graphics and the atmosphere is good enough for I think almost all of us
U should make it to where the audio of the videos come through the same video loudly
14:39 daki fotoğrafı nerden buldun link verirmisin ve googleden bulduysan ne yazdın da buldun yani ne arattın google de de bu fotoğrafı buldun ?
little side note on the uniform shenanigans they get them right little bit in the Turning Tides DLC
A small detail i picked up on is on the ship he said "level your GUN" atleast for Britain you call it a RIFLE A GUN HAS WHEELS!
You're pretty much on point, just have it stuck in my head that the broddie helmet style looks pretty authentic to pictures, statues and most museum mannequin wear it with the high chin strap directly below the bottom lip and the brim tipped forward, again think your right in the fact they aren't wearing it correctly but I think it's just a case of a craftsman and his tools adapting to their needs , fashion wise or practicality based.
Very interesting!. It’s a long shot but do you know much about what the royal marine light infantry, Portsmouth division did?. My Ancestor was part of it and was wounded by a bullet to the face. I did read that they landed after the initial landings
Nice vid, can you do Enemy Lines (2020)? That movie has some particularly egregious historical errors.
The Gun that the player is using is a Lee Enfield, the standard issue rifle of the british army, but the sights however are very historically inaccurate.
He is also using a shotgun which weren’t used until the americans arrived in Europe in summer of 1918.
The weapon besides the turkish soldier is a german Gewehr 98 the standard issue rifle of Germany.
The thing with the Brody helmets in 1915 is mainly because dice was too lazy to change up the models instead of making new modified Irish models for One campaign they use the same stock British army that’s in the rest of the game
I wouldn’t call that laziness, more time saving. Why take the time modeling out a new soldier that’s gonna appear in one Campaign story and nowhere else, when you could take take a small creative liberty by using an already made model
medal of honor european assaults desert bunker mission was always a cool interesting one
im glad they mentioned the irish in there, people tend to forget that the Irish fought in the british army
None of the characters in the thumbnail are even in the runner war story though
He on fire more than some CoD Vanguard
I can't imagine how much mistake on that lol
Well I have to agree on the uniforms in the mission, but on such I think they copied and pasted that from their multiplayer area of the game. And as well that weird scope design on the SMLE rifle that you start with, was the telescopic sight, which were used in late 1914 discontinued in mid 1915. But I don't think they were used in Gallipoli, seeing that there are only accounts of them being used in the Western Front. And these were used to have better accuracy at a better distance, but in such the sights only caused minor blindness for the shooter, mainly in sunny skies. Or worse revealed the shooters position to artillery or enemy snipers.
All the uniforms of the Central Powers in Bf1 are actually copy-pasted from the Germans.
The original "skin" is the imperial german "field-grey" uniform m1907/10 from the outbreak of WW1 in 1914, including boots, ammo pouches and Wehrmacht Y-straps from WW2 (they had Y-straps in WW1, but those looked different).
The uniform was just re-coloured white and later khaki for the Ottomans and re-coloured "stone-grey" for the Austro-Hungarians. Some of the red elements are even "enhanced".
Otherwise, everything is copy-pasted from the Germans except for the caps (the usage of german helmets by all Central Powers is accurate, though).
Needless to say, that actual ottoman and austro-hungarian uniforms in WW1 were not exactly copied from german uniforms.
I really want to see "getting mad" at Brothers in Arms Trilogy (especially "Hell's Highway").
You also showed a clip where he picks up a machine gun. The machine gun is a Madsen which was a danish machine gun and therefor it would not be at Gallipoli
17:22 The white uniform on the Ottomans is actually their dress uniform which was used for ceremonious occasions like a parade much like the black dress uniform of the SS.
The cape is to put over your nose and mouth when there’s gas being used kind of like a gas mask
I know this game has no campaign, but you should try Verdun. Its incredibly accurate.
"Assassin's Creed Gallipoli?!" LMAO
You need to react to the lost battalion NOW
There are plenty of ww1 movies about Gallipoli but not well known one being Gallipoli with Mel Gibson and mark lee but there is a docudrama made in 2015 that tells both sides stories by multiple sources be prepared to cry as the men tell their story up to their fates.
I really would love to see a reaction to avanti savoia
The map cape heles from multiplayer is exact like the photo from 4:39
The cape is a trench coat with the collar buttoned up for anyone wondering
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you need to continue the video because you still not see ottoman flamethrower :DDDD
I think that a game should be made that is a mix of FLS and strategy where you command an army in WW1 and in combat you spawn in as a officer, would be nice in my opinion, not to mention different types of infantry like militia, askaris, light infantry, heavy infantry, and Maxim Gunners, and there is also a colonization game mode, sure this is kinda off topic but I just thought it was something worth typing.
17:18 epaulette- the shoulder thing
My guy just needs to react to a CoD WaW mission so he can actually have a somewhat fun time.
11:33 this landingspot....it couldnt be worse. All guns on point, the losses must have been horrific.
We need something New, a game without money people, we need people who want to make games that are fun and historical accurate.
It sucks for the today Generation, because the schools arent learning history right, they font even care for history then
As an aussie I think of New Zealanders as our brothers, they are very cool people and our cultures are very similar
Surprised the people who planed and were in charge of this operation didn’t get court marshalled.