Historian Gets Mad at BATTLEFIELD 5: Tirailleur Mission (FULL ANALYSIS)
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Step by Step Breakdown of the Tirailleur mission from Battlefield 5, which depicts the story of French recruited "Tirailleur Sénégalais" during the 1944 Liberation of France. The "Tirailleur Sénégalais" were created in 1857 to expand France's colonial empire in Africa. If originally only from Senegal, during WW1 and WW2, they were recruited among all West African populations under French control, on a more or less voluntarily basis.
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Good video man but I have a question... Are you from Germany? Because of your accent
@@sherman5273 he is canadian :D
@@martinkalmar7448 oh strange because his German accent is perfect
Hey, no Ukraine updates? What about the Russian army attempting to cross the Siverskyi Donets at Bilohorivka two days ago? That attempt to encircle Severodonetsk?
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Actually the french government did not stop paying pensions when the colonies got independant, but froze the value, no longer tied to inflation. That's why it fell so low.
this needs more thumbs up. i didnt know this.
@@pk-be7zo The french government kept paying the same nominal value every month to African veterans, no longer increasing it with inflation. Which decreased its purchasing power over time.
Look at the purchasing power of the US dollar for example, and imagine getting paid the same amount since, say, 1960.
@@Duke_of_Lorraine which is the same as the British government to British citizens who live abroad so if I move to the USA my pension would stay the same and not go up so it’s nothing to do with race
@@Duke_of_Lorraine Well that changed as of 2023
Hey shouldn’t you be taking back the Holy Land?
What pisses me off is that this is not just insulting to the men who fought, but also their descendants. The French are very proud of the colonial troops during the first and second world wars; writing numerous books and media showing them in high estimate along with their French comrades. What is even more insulting is the other missions- the main offender being the one in Norway; where they ignore the heroic actions of a group of Norwegian commandos that raided the Nazi heavy water shipment, and instead made a completely fictional story with a marry sue.
In all honesty, WW2 is such a rich and diverse setting that one can easily show diversity where it actually existed- want female fighters to look at the Eastern front, want mixed-race army formations to look at the allies in the west, or the numerous other fronts. Or if they want to show minorities and "bring their stories to light" show some of the amazing stories and people who really existed. If you want women then have a mission where you are in a tank with Aleksandra Samusenko (the first female tank commander in the red army- 1st guards tank army), that way you can have a fun tank mission and show a real person and have your representation instead of rewriting history (seriously disabled females on the front lines was once a bloody meme).
Well the thing is most countries in Europe and Asia are based around Big Ethnic groups, Sure you have migrations from other parts but thats the beauty of this modern world. America is different, there are a lot of people in that country. All kinds of people. You have original Anglo/Welsh/Scottish descended people, Irish, French, German, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Chinese, Russian, Serbian, Italian, Mexican, Puerte
-rican, Cuban, Spanish, Brazilian, Korean, Japanese, Filipino, Niger-Congo Bantu people or Blacks as they are called in the west, Vietnamese, Arabs, Punjabi, Bengali, Afghani, Turkish etc etc. Its a big country. Now I am a Pakistani. Racism is fairly common here, You won't find many Sindhi Cricketers in our National team, but institutionalised Racism was only a thing during the British Raj here. I as a Sindhi will have no problems getting a job in Punjab or getting a drivers licence, or getting my kids a good education. Rivalry and racists jokes are considered really fucking funny here so we do banter around in those sorts of ways but a certain ethnic group isn't ostracised or doesn't get lesser opportunities in life and even if you do find ethinic groups that don't get many opportunities those aren't denied because of their race or religion.America before becoming, Immigrant Haven also had slavery and after that Institutionalised Rascism until 1960s. Most countries did not go through that phase.
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Now Pakistan considers the Sharia as the basis for its constitution, The Sharia was different during different times and was regularly changed between Sultanates and Kahanates butit serves as a good basis. No Arab has predominance over a non-arab and no non arab has a predominance over an arab. No dark skinned person has predominance over fair skinned people and no White skinned person has predominance over black skinned person. Only in their deeds do they have a higher standing in front of Allah. Now that was a religious example but I can 100% assure you that , that is the way a majority of Pakistanis feel toward race. American mindset is just different. A mix of Guilt, regret, self esteem issues, anger, jealousy, hatred is what I can get at from recent TV shows, SJW culture (if you can even call it that), Hollywood, Games etc etc.
Didn't they massacre a colonial platoon after they protested about not getting the same pay as whites?
@@ShahjahanMasood "Beauty of this modern world".
No. Just no.
@@traiascacodreanu4553 Typical.
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I am Algerian
I used to know a guy who had a veteran grandfather
And he had a story
He told me that his grandfather had some problems with his family so he traveled to another city. there was a mobilization there . he was recruited
I think that was in 1939
Anyway he was sent to France and fought on the front line. He had a French officer and they unit was mostly Algeria recruits. They were so afraid and shocked from the German plains bombardment it had a frightening sound
They were hiding in a forest they fortified the place . Their officer had no idea what to do since the Germans kept bombing them
After the bombardment, the Germans attacked using tanks. After some fighting, the French officer lost his leg due to an explosion
The Algerian guy surrendered to the Germans and he was taken as a POW
he was treated well by the Germans he was sent to a camp where he spent the rest of the war. Until he was liberated in 1945 or 44 not sure
And then he was sent back home.
Also, my grandfather cosine fought with the French in Italy but idk a lot of stories about him.
He survived the war and then participated in the Algerian revolution and he survived again.
People who served in ww2 here call the war war of the Germans
Brave lads, especially your granfather's cousin! Man survived both wars what a mad lad. May st peter welcome them in paradise my brother. Algerians and senegaleese are some of the bravest of men out there. I hope our two countries can have better relations in the future, and thank you eternally for your sacrifice in both the world wars !
@@ardugaleen2231 thanks I appreciate your respect
Thanks for sharing your story
respect for that veteran!
Thank yoU for sharing the story
I like he isn’t about race or religion or anything he’s just a historian. He’s not biased either he gets the facts done and that’s perfect yk?
Stating facts is considered racist these days.
@@ShadowReaper-pu2hx everything is “racist” today, one’s selfish needs have expanded too far
@@patrickateman06, yes, also, I meant to say “Stating…,” not “Ataating….”
@@ShadowReaper-pu2hx that’s fine I ain’t here to judge 😅
@@ShadowReaper-pu2hx Yeah... soon breathing will be considered racist...
22:17 It's actually a Canadian-made Ross Mk.III; a rifle that became infamous during the First World War for jamming. Needless to say, they fell totally out of favor by WWII. Completely historically inaccurate.
Thank you i saw iț has the hole in the bolt lever and was very confiused when he said Lee enfield.
actually they were replaced before the end of ww1. the ross was a great rifle for hunting to tight for war.
By God, it's Ian Smith..
@@miketaylor5212 He meant by the time ww2 they were out of favour. Not that they were replaced right before.
I was gonna say when I saw that bolt handle and the rectangle bolt mechanism i was like, ya that's a straight pull, but I didn't know which one lol.
19:38 he's actually super lucky, my great grandfather was an algerian soldier and for the horrible injury he sustained in combat which cost him his legs and then his life in the 50s the french government granted him the grand prize of 30 francs per month :l
Needless to say it probably wasn't enough to break da coco
Originally the British supplied and equipped all the "free forces"- France, Poland, Netherlands etc in ww2 from 1940.
When USA entrerd the war, eventually.. it was decided they would supply the Free French forces as they were largest single component. So from 1944 you'll see French in US gear.. The original French stuff was mostly oudated.
What would’ve been interesting is if Dice made a mission that focused on an Italian Askari during some of the battles of the East African campaign like the battle of Culqualber.
This, to me, is the most infuriating thing about BFV. They had one of the most advanced story telling tools in the world at the time, and were covering a period of time where all races and sexes participated in the conflict in some way, shape, or form. There were real people, doing actual brave things, in insane situations, making a huge difference. But the fuck did dice do? They just rewrote history to accommodate a message. I don't care that that they put women in multilayer, whatever,, but don't write over the actual stories and discredit the real people who's lives were actually sacrificed or put at risk to be ring the world back from the Depths of hell. I've literally never played this game and never will.
Instead of women sneaking into Germany to stop the nuclear program, do a level about resistance fighters.. Or the code breakers in Guadalcanal, like my grandma. Or the Russian female tanker (I know of one, maybe there were more). Real. People. Trying their best at impossibly great risk to themselves to themselves to bring the world back to piece.
Instead of shitting on these black soldiers, just tell it how it was and then show the aftermath.
Just tell the story for real. As accurately as possible, with a little creative license for fun in terms of game play.
And after the community of players and historians rallied against them for this, they called everyone unwoke and sexists and racists.
For a company that made two decades of my favorite games, 1942 to battlefield 4, dice sure has become a shit show.
*edit* -funny- sad how many comments below mine are basically exactly the same.
Ah Aleksandra Samusenko. Or maybe even the famed “Night Witches”
The Russians had loads of female snipers in World War Two.
The battlerifle provided "en masse" by the US to the FFF was the Enfield M1917. The other option was the M1903 Springfield. Only one unit of french paratroopers got the Garand near the end of the war.
Otherwise they got M1 carbines, M1928 and maybe some M1 Thompsons SMG and so on.
Berthier Rifle and Carbine mle 16
That's factually proven by historical photogrophy of Morrocan Tirailleur during their Italy campaign .
The game is frustrating on multiple levels - the way they smugly tell the story as if they're revealing true history, all while getting basic facts flat out wrong. Another thing that makes me angry is when my fellow Americans equate European actions and history with American ones because I guess we both have white skin we MUST be the same exact people, right?? It's shameful and insulting to all parties involved. They infantilized the African troops and demonized the French. No wonder the world hates us...
the world doesn't hate USA the world hate the way USA puts history in their media
I think DICE is a Swedish studio.
DICE is Swedish.
@@NoPantsBaby then the Swedish sure are acting like ignorant Americans. Apparently we're exporting it due to our surplus.
No matter DICE's nationality is, they're just fucking SJW SON OF BITCH.
I'm honestly amazed that you didn't touch on what was by far the most heinous historical inaccuracy of the entire war story: that being the claim from the main character that the German forces that they were fighting were "elite and well-equipped".
In reality, all of the German troops in Southern France were 4th-rate cannon fodder (primarily wounded old veterans, Polish and Czechoslovak Volksdeutsche volunteers and volunteering/forcibly-conscripted Ostlegionen/Ostbataillone troops from the Soviet Union and other nations across Eastern Europe) that were laughably poorly-equipped (being forced to mainly use a combination of captured Soviet, Polish, Czechoslovak, French and Italian rifles, artillery pieces and mortars that were all in pitifully piss-poor condition), completely demoralized and practically-untrained.
4 out of the 11 German divisions that were allotted to the defense of Southern France were static divisions (meaning that they had absolutely zero mechanized and motorized capabilities and were effectively forced to remain in place with absolutely zero possibility of maneuver), both the Luftwaffe and the Kriegsmarine had only a completely negligible presence that made them all but entirely worthless to the German defense of Southern France and the German defenders in Southern France only had 1 panzer division that only had half of its allotted tank strength.
The American and French invasion forces only encountered a hilariously outgunned, hopelessly outnumbered, comically weak German force that was more than easily swept aside during Operation: Dragoon. Talk about an epic fail on the part of DICE.
Maybe from early 1945 onwards, but that's a myth. The Allies were out-equiped in northwest Europe in all except for artillery and transport vehicles. The Americans had worse training and had a huge NCO problem in that region for the entirety of 1944. The saving grace was the fact that the Americans outnumbered the Germans, so the brass were more aggressive because they could accept the losses. The Germans were also sending some of their highly decorated and advanced tank crews to the West as well. They weren't all old men and children.
@@woahhbro2906 I wasn't referring to the entire Western Front but rather Southern France. In any event, that's an absolutely laughable assertion to claim that the Germans "out-equipped" the Western Allies, nevermind the Americans, in 1944.
@@woahhbro2906 Bro you just got bamboozled by skipping the reading
HHAAHHA bro the final “break the coco” killed me I wasn’t expecting it and almost choked on my drink.
Upvoted this was entertaining hahah thanks for respecting troops from our background (African). I wonder what you would have though of charles Alexander Dumas in assassins creed.
hey. can you explain the joke to me it went ovr my head
@@teru797 "Break the coco" ---> "Pop the cherry". Aka, have sex.
@@teru797 5:26 the veteran talks about women wanting to have sex "break the coco"
Imagine if instead of the Senegalese Tirailleurs, it was actually the Gurhka Rifles wearing vintage British WW1 uniforms.
wow much respect, am from morocco brother and i think that you are the only channel that actualy tell the history as it happend + the fact that you explaine in much detail, am talking about military stategies of russian advances, the reality behind the storie(s) (agendas/narrativers), i played Battlefield 5 ill just say that i did like how you explained everything, bien joue pour toute les vidéos sur la chaine, bravo pour ton honnêteté le fait que tu donne des détails style la phrase utiliser par les marocain "Zidou Lgoudam", waw me suis abonné direct chapeau
Love the new style, instead of raging mindlessly, offering suggestions and insight what you would have done differently, how it could be improved. Massive upvote
He said it all in the video... are you a troll? XD
He was never raging mindlessly, he was usually right, some of the mistakes seen are quite obvious to fix.
I have to say, you are quickly becoming my favorite content creator. You inspire me to fine tune my history knowledge and grasp. Thank you so much for putting such hard work and dedication in your fantastic videos sir
Videos like this, and his news updates on the Ukrainian war have made him win a place in the hall of channels you can trust for good information.
The money>The Agenda>The Twitter Publicity>The Game>The History 😓
Amazing video! Finally someone breaking up the entire "racial struggle" narrative with simple facts. :)
There was a racial struggle tho
Great job as always!!
I am also very happy for you that you got this good opportunity to have a sponsor of your video, it gotta help a lot :D
I can kinda see where they were going with this though because of the aftermath of Operation Dragoon. In the fall of '44, 15,000 Senegalese skirmishers of both the 9th Colonial Infantry Division, 1st Free French and 2nd Armored Division were completely replaced by troops of the FFI (French Forces in the Interior) aka the French Resistance.
When De Gaulle said "I want my countrymen to liberate the nations capital", the Americans agree but on one condition: that a division of white troops do it. In a confidential memo to De Gaulle from Walter Bedell Smith, Chief of Staff to General Eisenhower, it says "It is most desirable that the division above consists of white personnel. This would indicate the Second Armored Division, which with only one fourth native personnel, is the only French division operationally available that could be made one hundred percent white." (the Chad Regiment that is part of the French 2nd Armored also consists of a company of exiled Spanish Republicans). On top of that, Fredrick Morgan, a British General wrote a letter to Allied Command: ""It is unfortunate that the only French formation that is 100% white is an armoured division in Morocco. Every other French division is only about 40% white. I have told Colonel de Chevene that his chances of getting what he wants will be vastly improved if he can produce a white infantry division." The African troops were withdrawn from the colder regions to warmer ones in France or back to Africa for both R&R and training, however some did stick around fighting in the Vosges and other places. Whether it from the "Blanchiment" policy or for the troops' well-being, they left the Battlefield and returned home. It ended on December 1st, 1944 when 35 (or 300 depending on sources) Tirailleurs were killed by French troops at a camp in Thiaroye, Dakar.
So thats why I say I see what the message is trying to tell here. Also I recommend you and everyone the movie he is talking about at 20:11. It's english title is Days of Glory
Btw the weapon that is shown at 22:29 is not a Lee-Enfield but a Canadian made Ross straight pulled bolt-action rifle which was never issued to the French army during the war. They should have given them a Mas 36, M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, Lebel's and some others. For more info on that: www.imfdb.org/wiki/List_of_weapons_used_by_French_Armed_Forces
i really love your videos. The way you breakdown and explain things is amazing. I'm waiting for the next update video on Russo-Ukrainian war coz the shitty media just focuses on Mariupol, every single day they just show what's happening in Mariupol. That's why i eagerly wait for an update video of yours.
TLDR: Celebs, All left-wing, and some RINO, Politicians are point grabbing snakes.
As much as I despise Russia for what it has done, this media coverage is really doing a disservice to the price Ukraine has paid/is paying and the reality of the fight on the ground. And I'm sick of the pearl clutching by people who don't realize if we don't fix the problems in our country that these pearl clutchers ignore, then we might as well give up on aid to Ukraine.
My grandfather took part of Operation Dragoon with the 551st Parachute Infantry Battalion.
I knew there was something deeply strange with that mission
Same here
In the mission, to be more realistic, I picked up a lee-Enfield off one of my dead comrades and used that the entire playthrough of the mission. It made it more difficult due to me not being able to stealth but it was fun.
Ironically this mission made me want to research more about the topic (I knew french forces used african troops, but not to the extent the game wants you to believe)
Thank you for this remarkable video on the Tirailleurs Senegalais of the french army. regarding the Tirailleurs algeriens, marocains, and tunisiens yes they were great soldiers but in WWII french europeans from north Africa (Pieds noirs) were largely integrated in this tirailleurs regiments (my uncle in one of them). Before and after WWII Europeans used to be integrated in the Zouaves for infantry and Chasseurs d'Afrique fot cavalry whereas natives north africans were in the Tirailleurs for infantry and Spahis for cavalry. Vous êtes français ?
Nope he is German i think and live in Canada
@@kg7162 Thank you very much
There’s no way they would have had them digging, they were frontline troops, they weren’t worried about them dying is why, the game could have easily made the same point in a historically accurate way
7:01 "No coco for him" LMAO
You should definitely react to the Last Tiger mission from BFV! Also, when are you uploading the next Ukraine war analysis?
When the next russian general dies.
12:12 yea literally call of duty 2 when you start in the desert and they shoot the machine gunner and then you take his position xD
5:38 A real Chad
Dont really see what's controversial about this. "Oh noooooo, the French are using Europeans when fighting for Europe!" Ummmm yeah, that's how it should be. Wrong to involve colonial troops in the first place.
It's controversial because they rewrote history to serve a narrative, when they could have easily just told the story and still served the narrative just fine. It's an insult to the bravery of the men and women who actually fought this war. History wrote itself.
I dont care about what you show of the games at all. Just love all the actual history you throw at me. Keep it up!
at this point all these games should just have a "not completely accurate" disclaimer
That guy really is the commander. The captain is barely shown . He is the guy with his back turned in the cutscene.
You realize that ranking the effectiveness of troops by how many Medals they have can have many issues
I'm surprised it didnt dawn on him...
the rifle you claimed at 22:22 that was a Lee Enfield was probably a Ross Rifle, chambered in .303 and produced in Canada. you can tell by the bolt with a punctured hole in the knob of it.
Amazing video very informative. I definitely learned something new . I had no idea about the North African troops and their significant contribution to the liberation of France during the second world war. You learned something new everyday . What a shame and a kick in face how the surviving Senegalese got screwed on payment and retirement pension . For €75 I would of thrown that ambassador out on his ass .
22:30 thats Ros MK.III
A mission like this would’ve been much better for bf1 with the Harlem hellfighters imo
To be honest the USA didn’t fight in many offensives so I guess with the French there are far more battles to choose from
I mean you already had that with Storm of Steel (although i am agree that this is need to be whole full campaign)
Apparently that “Young” French Captain is supposed to be Charles De Gaulle.
Thx for talking about these men my great-great grandfather was in the invasion of Indochina in the 1880's I think I don't now exactly in what year but he was there and my grandfather was a resistance fighter against the French colonists in Tunisia
When you get mad, it's gonna be fun.
If I were gonna make a first person shooter game, I'd try to make about 5 campaigns, based off the most decorated units of each Major Allied Power, namely, America, the Soviet Union, Great Britain, China, and France, and I believe the most decorated French Unit of WW2 was the 2nd Parachute Chasseur Regiment.
As far as I can tell, they were mostly decked out in American M1 Carbines and British Sten guns, and that would be the only blatant inaccuracy in my game, because I'd want them to have French MAS-36 Rifles and French MAS-38 Submachine Guns.
May not be totally accurate, but I believe it is still authentic, and I believe that matters most, though general accuracy is important too.
Well said.
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This would've made more sense if it were about Black American Soldiers, for example, about 1,000,000 Americans of African decent joined the U.S. Armed forces throughout WW2, of them, only 125,000 were allowed to serve overseas, and only 708 were killed in combat, a casualty rate of 1 in 177... compare that to the total 16,000,000 Americans that served of all ethnicities, of which over 12,000,000 were allowed to serve overseas, and about 416,000 died, a casualty rate of a casualty rate of about 1 in every 29... which tells me, even the Black soldiers that WERE allowed to serve overseas were RARELY allowed to see much action, as the peopleat the top, didn'twant to give them the chance to be heroes.
Regardless though, many Black Americans did answer the call, and proved their metal 100 times over and 100 times again, especially units like the 92nd Infantry Division, the Tuskegee Airmen, the 761st Tank Battalion, and the 93rd Infantry Division.
The rifle the soldiers are using is a mk3 ross rifle, not a lee enfield. It's a ww1 era Canadian rifle and was mainly used by naval units. Love the vids tho. You should check out Hell Let Loose if you want to react to a mostly realistic ww2 game.
I also think it's a Ross mk3 rifle. It's not historically accurate in this part, because it was only used by the Canadians in WWI, if I remember it correctly.
Still waiting for "letters from iwo jima"
historical accuracy will never be accurate, its just a game anyways
Honestly the Raid Shadow Legends ad was probably more historically accurate than this mission
My great grandpa was a senegalese tirailleur and he fought in ww2
I have distant Senegalese relatives that served in ww1 at verdun
@@keen9166 What a honour! Are you half senegalese half american?
@@Sahelian naa I'm Senegalese Dutch
@@keen9166 Ah cool
Finally, a Battlefield V video. This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for.
Good video ! I think it's interesting to mention the Thiaroye massacre, where Tirailleurs sénégalais were killed by french troops because they asked for the same pay and the same treatment as the white soldiers.
There's a movie made about the massacre - can't remember the name.
7:31- From what I see, thats incorrect. Its actually an M1917 Enfield Rifle, because in the image you showed at 7:16, on the left you see an M1917 Enfield rifle, as well as in the footage in 7:44-8:05 where you can see the M1917 Enfield on their back because the barrel looks different
The multiplayer for this game was so ridiculous. As an Allied soldier I shot at a German soldier, killing them. When I made it to their body I found that this German infantry soldier was a black female. What?!?!
I worked in a shop in the town of Airaines, where captain N'Tchoréré was murdered by the germans. N'Tchoréré was a French captain of Gabonese origin who was commanding a mixed regiment (composed of both black and white soldiers). He was murdered when he refused to be separated from other french officers by the germans as the black were considered untermensh by them. He asked the honour of staying to cover the evacuation of the reste of the battailon bataillon in frond of Rommel's the 7th german panzer division after the destruction of their ammunition depot rendered its situation hopeless. They run out of ammo on the 7th of june with just 10 black and 5 white soldiers valid under N'Tchoréré's command.
Off topic I saw a book with many old pictures of the town before the war and it was an absolutely beautiful town. Most of it like many other towns was completely ruined.
The final photo of that campaign, with the Tirailleurs disappearing, looks like a reference to Stalin photoshoping his enemies out of existence. Meaning the government, according to the game, covered they even existed. This is beyond insulting.
They took the racial segregation that was in the US military at the time, turned it to 11 and tried to put that on the French army, while France had no such policy and treated their African troops the exact same as their native French troops. The Harlem Hellfighters from WW1 are a perfect example, surprised to be treated like any other unit once they were transfered under french command.
It kinda did happen to some extent tho, the french education system rarely talk about colonial troops, according to them the FFL were the general de gaulle army in britain, they don't even talk about how the capital of France was Brazzaville. Also, the FFI (which were basically a glorified terrorist group if you think about it) get way more recognition than the african troops, like bro, i don't say that "ur dur french evil they not cool with sengalese cuz they blak 😢" but it would be a lie to say that they given them the recognition they deserve
The gun they're using looks to be the P1917 Enfield rather than the M1 Garand. It's clear to see in the colour picture of the uniform and equipment.
Honestly it's utterly disgusting how EA treats this genre, and battlefield in general.
I think they made the French uniforms blue because they think the players are to stupid to differentiate the French from the British. since France is not talked about that much in ww2 most amateur history fans think the French keept their uniform blue because of French pride. it's kinda stupid because all they have to do is make the uniform a bit more brown and it would be a little bit closer to historical accuracy
The good vids are back!
If they wanted to do a story of racism in WWII it would have been really cool if they did something with the 442nd infantry division, which holds the title of the most decorated unit in American military history. I doubt many Americans realize that title belongs to a unit that was primarily Japanese-American, I mean most Americans are not knowledgeable on Asian American history in general. The campaign could've opened up with the Attack on Pearl Harbor and the wave of anti-Japanese sentiment that followed and then showed the protagonist being forced into an interment camp. I think the game's "soldiers fighting for a country that wants nothing to do with them" narrative would have worked much better in this case. I think back before this game released they said it would be the untold stories of WWII or something like that. The campaign for this game could've been so good, but they failed miserably.
A movie ''Go for Broke'' tells the story of the 442 Reg. Combat Team - take a look, good movie. Many in the cast are veterans of the 442.
The issue with this level is that they had the soldiers treated as if they were done the same way as the Black soldiers in the US Army during WWI and to a lesser degree WWII which is even more egregious. Case in point, the 93rd Infantry Division in the Pacific during WWII was trained for combat but spent most of their service in the Pacific doing a combination of labor details, patrols and mop-up operations.
While the French did employ some colonial forces for labor details in Italy during WWII, they weren’t doing what the US did to Black combat units and were taking them to convert into Engineer and Service Units like what was done to the 366th Infantry, 353rd Field Artillery and numerous Black Tank Destroyer Battalions raised early on.
22:33 that's a Canadian Ross Rifle
If they actually cared about African achievements, perseverance and history they would simply represent that in BF5, showing their courage, sacrifice, knowledge and elite status on the battlefield. Instead, they chose to erase most Africans contributions and what little is left in the game is totally rewritten so as to be unrecognizable.
The devs and publishers couldn't care less about actual Africans, they simply want to sell copies, pat themselves on the back for being "strong allies" and present themselves as champions for men that didn't and don't need them in the first place.
The rifle in the end is a Ross mkIII from Canada, a ww1 not so known weapon
Thumbnail is questionable, the picture is taken of a American soldier alongside a French resistance member during the liberation of France, World War 2, but the arrow points to a French African colonial soldier during World War One
It's not a Lee Enfield but a Ross Mk 3 which is Canadian...
The Faces of ww2 doesn’t sound like a bad book
Another good one. Thanks!
Will you check out Days of Glory French War movie ?
One historical fact why Germans were so brutal against African troops, is because African troops were used after WWI as occupation force in Rhineland. Germans saw that as one of the insults to be occupied by troops from Africa, and after Nazi party took over they used it in large for propaganda purposes. They claimed that french colonial troops were cruel to civilians. Also they went to great length to kill or sterilize every person who was born from union of German women and African troops in Germany. It was fucked up time.
Thank you for restoring the truth ! It's true that France didn't treat fairly its colonial units (which btw were rarely only composed of indigenes), mostly after the war. But it wasn't out of sheer racism but more about refocusing on France and the Metropole, sadly the colonies didn't have the credit for what they did. An other thing is that the Germans created a myth about the brutality of the black soldiers during the occupation of Germany after WW1. Germans propagandists and politicians accused them of mass rapes etc etc. The UK, USA and France all conducted different investigations to see what was the problem. Turns out that German girls really liked black soldiers and Germans were pissed about getting cock blocked. And btw nice pronunciation, you are a native French speaker ?
Actually that last weapon that you asked about isn't a SMLE, nor is it a NO. 4 Lee Enfield. That Bolt action rifle is a Ross Mk III. And these are older WW1 Rifles.
I remeber in CoD Finest Hour where you fought as a Tanker of the 761st tank battalion, or the black panthers, that mission will always be my favorite, cause it told the story of these brave men without having to write away other people to make it happen.
I remember that mission. Really good game
With BF V, DICE threw historical accuracy out the window in exchange for modern day left talking points and ideas, and completely insulted the actual people who fought in the war.
That is why I refuse to play or spend money on this game. Damn shame since they had such a great opportunity to make a great game.
As someone on the left, I also dislike lazy writing.
3:46 exactly it’s a crime 😢 we need to learn and teach more of the free French in ww2.
That rifle at 7:29 looks to be the silhouette of a 1917 Enfield.
The weapon he was holding in the end was a Ross Mk3 rifle. A Canadian gun. So I guess it is wrong.
22:33 thats a canadian ross mkIII
I waited a while for one of these
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It wasn’t a lee enfield. You can tell from the “magazine” and exposed barrel in the forward hand guard. It also doesn’t have a metal strip between the bolt and trigger guard.
7:25 I believe that might be a bolt action Enfield m1917 rather than the M1 Garand. US marines were still using them on guadalcanal roughly around the same time as the campaign in North Africa, the garand didn’t become the standard battle rifle across all US units until 1943, a lot of guys still had holy actions until they reached mainland Europe
22 : 30 this is a ross rifle
Can you react to call of duty world at war 2008 and compare it to vanguard please?
"why is the game obsessed with giving them WW1 stuff"
To reuse BF1 assets
I would not say that the convoy getting attacked by Stukas is impossible. Yes by summer 1944 German air superiority has dwindled a bit. Only operating fighter from the fatherland itself to shoot down bombers. A FW190 attacking them with cannons would be more likely. Still stukas dive bombing them is possible
I think the reason they have so much WW1 stuff, is because they copy and pasted stuff from Battlefield 1 to make production quicker. Its an Triple A game studio thing to do anyway.
Im mad at this level. Due to a update to multiplayr. It caused the dont get caught objective to no longer be obtainable. And cant get the melee weapon unlock
Hey, I don't know if you have already but I would love to see you react to COD World at War or any of the Sniper Elite games.
22:18 That rifle is a Canadian Ross rifle, not a Lee Enfield. So the congratulations on battlefields part is still unearned.
The gun in the photo it’s a 1917 bolt action rifle used by the us troops during ww1 and ww2
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As an Italian, it's nice that I can sort of understand a bit of French.
3:46 I don’t I want mor films about them.
Nice content bro ! Try doing BF 1 missions it’s really nice
You should look into some of the old medal of honor games, it is a bit dramatic how they portray it but I think thats where a lot of the newer generations of war games come from