Ultimate Ferrari Challenge Project - Can We Make A Street Legal Race Car ?
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2020
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NEW Project Challenge has been set for Ratarossa to Convert this Ferrari 360 Race Car into the Ultimate Street Legal Road/Track Weapon ...... But Can It Actually be Done ?
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C’mon man, get a video up of that 512, at the very least getting washed!😂
Welcome back...what happened with the 512??
The owner won't sell it.
@@TheMentalblockrock he posted a vid of of it being put on a flatbed.
That would be a fun project - DO IT!
Great project! Converting a 360 race car into a street legal driver is exactly what I like to see. Can’t wait for you to begin.
Where are you hiding the 512 ?
Go for it Scott,love to see you pulling it off.all the best!! (y)
Would be worth putting a water/oil heat exchanger onto the engine as the challenge car uses an oil cooler above the RH rear wheel, takes ages to get the engine oil up to temperature, also why I’d be wary of reving it like that till it’s fully warm. Depending on the oil viscosity it’s possible to over pressure the engine oil and cause the hydraulic lifters to stick open when cold, they’re a non interference engine so it’s not the end of the world, but not ideal if you’re trying to drive it on the road! Might also be worth fitting the water/gearbox oil heat exchanger in place of the gearbox cooler fed by the rear screen for a bit more control over the temperatures. The 430 challenge car runs water to engine oil heat exchanger in the engine block and a water/gearbox oil heat exchanger in the middle of the V so it’s not an issue on track either.
The rear suspension is normal 360/430 wishbones etc so if you can get hold of some road car rear uprights you’ll be able to attach the handbrake mechanism, both 360 and 430 will fit. But you may need an adapter if the disc size is different.
The auto and slippery surface buttons on the centre console also are fully operational on the challenge cars as it runs the standard engine electronic systems so it needs them present to work. I’ve been working on 360 & 430, and later on the 458 & 488 challenge cars for over 10 years so know them pretty intimately if you need any info.
I’d also guess that the fuel tanks in that will be well out of date by now so worth looking at before he takes it on track or the road no matter what.
Are you sure about the non interference engine............
Michael Whelan on the 360 engine yes
Put that thing on the road....the world deserves more race cars on the road. If that guys got enough money...anything is possible. I look forward to this project.
DUDE 512 UPDATE
Pretty good video Scott. Waitting for the F40 😆😆🔝🔝
Of course you should ! It'd make an amazing video series !
1:54 Wow! Another great video Rata! :)
Yes definitely take on that project one of the best guys Ratorossa number ONE
I'm fairly certain I've seen an original Challenge that's been made road legal for sale here in Sweden. It must be doable, so please do it!
Yes you should take the challenge on or turning it in to something road legal, would love to see it.
Will need some adjustments to the suspension to make it a bit more useable on the road I think. Lift 10-15 mm.
Handbrake and lights look like the biggest challenge but I’m sure you can do it. Custom rear silencer is entirely do able and the car will have to pass noise tests for track day use which can be difficult on some tracks especially in the UK, 105db is usually the upper limit on track days.
Would love to see it done!
Been thinking of doing it here in Canada
Go for it!
Looks like a good chunk of work, but well worth it. converting and Aston martin Vulcan to a street car is on RUclips somewhere.
A Ferrari race car would be amazing.
That’s a rather sexy looking piece of kit. Going to look amazing on the road.
7:10 To me the Challenge Stradale sounds better...
New project? 🤗 i love it
Go for it Scott, it will be epic 🤘
Ooofff . I really thought those planks were gonna break and pull the nose off :-O
I've always felt the best drivers car you can get is a race car made road legal.
Most can be very easily.
👍🏻
Was SO hoping that the next vid would be you announcing you'd convinced the 512 owner to sell/trade the car or atleast get to restore it on your channel.
I personally enjoy your vids working on the older cars more than the newer.
The more I watch this channel, the more apparent it gets that literally the only differences between all the fast versions of the 360 and the stockones is a flash a tune, and some stripping out crossed with abit of carbon fiber thrown in for good measure, like if this car didnt have a ferrari badge on the front end, I bet most people would have done all of this and these things would have a tuning culture like a supra
On the surface they look quite the same by design but dig more and they are worlds apart, thousands of part differences including over 250kg weight loss. Different brakes, suspension, wheels, interior, composite body panels, fuel system (carbon tanks, race fueling system), emissions systems, etc etc etc. Even engines where blue printed, etc. The differences are way more than you'd imagine and they drive like totally different cars which ofcourse they are.
@@360trev I plead ignorance, but on the face of it it does seem like its a rather simple formula, granted simple in the sense of I've never tried lol
also ferrari doesnt blueprint the engines to begin with? I thought they would just given how limited the production is.
@@kavinskysmith4094 there is road car levels of blue printing and there is race car levels of blue printing... Laws of diminished returns granted but a flat plane crank with slight degree of imbalance between left and right banks or 10g weight differential between the titanium Conrods on one cylinder won't make a huge difference at say 8,500 rpm redline but at approaching 10k it most certainly will... 😜
Possible, yes. Cheap or easy, no way. But yes, absolutely!
Even without the splitter, i can’t see it getting on the Eurotunnel unless its on a trailer. I don’t see it going round the carousel on the Nurburgring without grounding out
Take it on?? Not just yeah....HELL YEAH!
Definitely...... Race Car for the road whats not to like !
Dad had 355 challenge and had it road registered back when they were the latest Ferrari
Go for it! Not sure of the UK rules, but I am sure you can get something compatible. Some interesting challenges with the body and making enough clearance for road use. I would want some secure starting method, but that is just my preference. Has he set a budget? a limit...I would think this could get a little pricey. Good luck...
I enjoy the content and very jealous of that man! the only thing I would say is too many ads to keep me watching
Yeah ,they sound just like my old mini when the exhaust fell off.
The Stardman has a road-legal F430 Challenge, so I guess it could be possible. You need to check if the car has a VIN as that might cause issues (911 GT3 Cups don't come with a VIN as far as I know so you cannot make them road legal). Also the airbags will probably be a pain. The rest should be doable.
I would go for a electronic hand brake they just use a motor to operate calipers with cables they would be easy to fit and wouldn't mess up the interior
Have you bought the 512? We dying to know ha
If those cats on the exhaust are standard or at least a 200 cell then that will take away a big headache on the conversion
Frankly I'd leave it as it is. But.........I did think some time ago when I saw a Challenge car for sale that it would make a nice Stradale! Like it as it is if I'm honest.
Wow that idle exhaust note on that race car is lovely!! Hey 316Speed is doing a rebuild on a barnfind TestaRossa. Uploads are sorta slow but should be a great watch!
15:22
What the HELL is that exhaust muffler?! Holy Fuck!
Looks like someone masticated this thing and spat that out on the gutter.
Finally getting sponsores
Handbrake install, road legal tyres... job done. It won't be a difficult job in my opinion
Do both the BBi and this Challenge!?
Biggest challenge with be the DVLA. Getting a V5c. Was it ever registered for the road here or abroad? Might have to put it through an IVA test? Getting an MOT won’t be too hard. Interested to see how you go about solving any issues. 👍
I'm already guessing this one will be much more road legal here the UK when you're done with it than the Stradman's is in the US, his hasn't even got a hand brake..... 😁
Needs a CS TCU and PIS adjust first! ☺️
Great project. However I'm sure it's not just about getting it mot'd, it's surely going to need an SVA test to be street legal?! That involves exhaust noise, emissions, heights of lights, positioning of mirrors etc, etc? Love to see it through though. 🚖
Honestly I’d just leave it as track track car and enjoy it as is. I reckon getting it UK registered may be a problem
Surely you would leave it as it is. So much work and expense to get it mot legal. Just trailer it to the track and enjoy to its potential.
Er, great but Scott......512 mate please. I'm not the only one having sleepless nights over this, end the agony!!!!
LOL ...IM WORKING ON IT
lol girlfriend/wife around 8:00 waiting in the back like when are these guys done :P , looking forward to this conversion to street legal . A series too look forward . Also do you have an update on the 512 Boxer?
haha, great spot
Presumably this car would need to go through IVA in which case you’d better absorb the IVA manual! Lots of things would need to change on the interior and exterior.
I worked for a guy who raced Ferraris like this one as a privateer around Europe ( he was a property developer ). His Ferrari caught fire at Le Mans one year and burnt a hole in the track. He had to pay for the repair ( I think racing got away again within the hour ). He lost it all during the GFC and had to leave the country to declare bankruptcy in London.
That car is going to need a speedometer, a horn and possibly side indicators to pass an MOT. With standard cats it should pass emissions.
Arghhh was hoping for an explanation on what’s occurring with the 512 😩
I looked into buying a 360 Challenge several years ago. I was thinking of doing something similar so I would be able to street it if desired. The problem with the car was it did not come with a title and it had a non-standard VIN, which was going to prevent me from getting a title. It would have been a track car only.
@R A You may be correct. I was trying to get the title in South Carolina. I know each state is different. The other problem was getting insurance. After hitting a couple of obstacles, I gave up. I ended up buying a 911 instead.
Should've never added that clip of the 512 getting loaded on the truck.. Everyone wants to know. In terms of this (race car to street legal race car) conversion, it depends on too many variables you haven't given us. What country is it intended to be licensed in? Does it already have a VIN number? What are the laws where the car is at? You can change what you want on the car to make it street legal, and I think it'd be awesome, but it depends on the laws, not so much the car :) look forward to more updates :)
I guessing the emissions will be the biggest issue as most other problems can be resolved with parts for a ‘normal’ 360. Also what happened to the 512?
Surely just a set of road legal tyres along with a numberplate would suffice?
Hey Scott,well ok better than nothing,but not worthy of your talent 512bbi would be awesome or something akin to that.Stay Safe buddy 🚒👍
Hi Guys I have been reliable informed that Scott is not going to be carrying out the conversion of this Challenge race car, it's being done by a ferrari indie on the south Coast, I can't say more until I have the permission of the owner and of the indie, but it is in very good hands, someone with experience of making race cars street legal.
I wonder if he knows that ignition switch is in upside down?
The convention is: Up is On, Down is Off.
I've heard of challenge cars being made road legal in Germany where it is very strict, so should be possible in the uk
a1topdog stradman did it with challenge car here in the US
Yes your right
Here in Germany we had some cars and novitec and Hamann had some crazy parts for the 360
It's definitely possible do but a racecar to a legal roadcar here
Legalise it! 😃😃😃
seems like a easy job
You should integrate a electronic e-brake instead of a manual and then altering the console.
This guy is going to be very popular with his neighbours with that exhaust. Haha
Your stradale sounds more race car than the race car lol!!Seriously yours sounded epic!
Btw what's happening with the 512?
'Do we have 02 sensors'
Well as it was just running.. id say yes 🤣
Why do you need to change the exhaust?
What’s happening with 512?
Owner is a jerk and not wanna sell basically
No He posted a picture of it getting loaded onto a truck bed.
If its a real challenge car I'd leave it alone, he should of just bought a stock 360 and put some challenge bits on it...
The 512 is not for sale guys, I thought that was amde clear in the video? Apparently its going to see the rest of its days right where it is?
Imagine if Ratarossa, bought an used Lamborghini Huracan...
**Something strange happen today, I went to start my Lambo this mournig, and it started at the first crank.**
Roger M lol
Bit of blue smoke from the Stradale 🤨
its been abused !
Personally chap, I’d rather see you finish the half dozen cars you have, as that’s why I subscribed initially. Not interested in the race car, as the theory behind its conversion is flawed. I’d rather see the other cars up and useable so that if that white Ferrari or an F40 came available, you’d be in a position to take on. Just my opinion 👍
Please do this!
You should do it
Made me realise how simple it is to convert a race bike to road legal compared to the Ferrari.
512 please!
He needs to loose that revolting spoiler from the rear,Enzo used to hate them...............
First... hum, like anyone cares lol - what we care about is this new insane project! bring it on!!!
If anyone can Ratarossa can 😁 Vin issues aside (who wants a Q plate 😔) there's quite a lot more work than people would expect to do a useable road legal conversion on any challenge car. The parts are thankfully interchangeable with a Modena so having a good relationship with a breaker will pay dividends. A stock Challenge car was decatted from factory (they look same but are normally hollow) and all ecus are calibrated for catless operation so impossible to pass emissions without magic ecu work. Thankfully I can help here so when the time comes get in touch. Dash doesn't have road legal illuminations required, etc etc. Tonnes of work to be done if you want to do it properly.
A VIN can be made. Look up making P300COR road-legal
Well there goes my plan to do the same thing. Now there no chance finding decent deal next year, i think some of your viewers will be looking too. Now prices will be too high for me to do in a couple of years fml.
Man and the ferrari 512 bbi ?
Does the 360 Challenge have a VIN?
Where’s the Ferrari emblem on the steering wheel ?
is your hair stuck to the liner glue?
What about not having a VIN and does it actually have a title? This would be excellent! Love the project possibility.
It has a normal Vin the same as a standard 360 with one letter difference because of the challenge car
What do you think the conversion would do to the resale value of the car? Just curious
Chris Clark nearly everything will be reversible so I think it will actually add lots of value to the car
Very cool. keep Entertaining Your fans! See ya bud :d
Meh , what's the point if it's someone else's car , we want to see the 512 .
Hi Scott, are you going to do the work or have you "subbed" it out?
Why no centre locks?
Come on. I came for the 512.
Challange Stradale Challange!
got a passat estate do you think you could convert to a 308 gtb.cheers lol
Laughing ...ill give it a try but it will cost around £50k and most likely end up as a black 308Qv or Grey gtsi
@@Ratarossa lol
Would you be able to register the car since it doesn't have a VIN?
Who says it doesn't?
It won’t have a logbook, I wanted to do the same to an F430 Challenge, it’s a massive job, handbrake, plexi glass screen replace, remove jacking stuff, lights, suspension, dash all to sort, not impossible but the lack of logbook will kill off the project imho
Don’t do it, it would be such a shame to “dumb” down this car.
Any news about the 512 or the 911?
Do it