Finally! Someone showed what to do when things aren't perfect. I've hung many doors and it's been my experience that you run into problems more often than is shown in most 'how to' videos. Twisted or bowed 2x4s, out of plumb walls, bowed walls and sometimes, bowed doors! Things go wrong and you have to fix them. Don't feel bad that the install in your video didn't go as 'smooth' as in all the other door install videos. This is a great video.
good video, would be great if he did the trim, because that is going to be a nightmare. what would he do rip a custom extension jam for half the jam that goes from 3/8 to nothing and extend 1/2 the trim with that same taper to return it to the wall?
There was a study done with two women selling blenders on tv. One woman had a perfect delivery and did everything right. The second woman spilled the blender which made her nervous and threw her off a bit. The woman that spilled the blender ended up selling more bc she was more relatable to her audience. Thanks for showing that you had to start over like what happens in the real world with hanging doors.
Learnt more from watching you troubleshoot the process than I would have but watching a perfect install! No old houses are prefect so it’s great to see you work through it! Thank you!
Anyone can install a door in a plumb and square door reveal. Dealing with this shit is what most of us weekend warriors are looking for help with. Thanks for the vid. Thumbs up
We dont even check if anything is plumb ore square whe have special screws so we can work plumb at any time you carpenters should check them out would save so much time it takes me 30 minuts to finish a door but we have to aseemble the door frame and the walls are 9 out of 10 made from stone where we live
@@havefun1226 Can you give the name of these special screws, are they cambered? I love woodworking, but MAN DO I SUCK AT IT. I'm NOT having fun at this point. These guys make it look simple, but I can measure 10 fekkin times and still waste lumber. I'd appreciate any feedback and/or knowledge you have to offer. PEACE
As a retired Carpenter, I removed the door from the jamb and leveled my headjamb, then go to the hinge jamb and I always ran a 2 1/2" deck screw into the center screw hole of the hinge after I removed the short screw in the hinge. At this point, I put in the door and finished with the latch jamb hung to the door. I never used screws in my jamb... just in the hinges. I used 8p finish nails in the rest of the jamb installation.
Just paid a 'pro' with great reviews to add a closet to a room. I ended up with very badly framed walls and I stopped him after he'd spent hours (literally) trying to hang the two doors with no success. Took me a day to tear down, and another to frame out properly my darn self. THANK YOU for showing how to adjust for mistakes. Had I seen this video before I did the tear down, I would have been able to frame the door correctly myself without the extra work of reframing. Saved your video for the next time I delude myself into thinking things will be quicker and more professionally done when hiring a pro!
I had lost the will to live after spending a couple of hours trying to figure out why my prehung door was binding and wouldn't shut in my new basement bath framing... but your video saved my sanity! :D While the hinge side was perfectly plumb, the latch side framing was a hot mess! Knowing that I'm not alone and seeing you have to do trial and error gives me the courage to try it again without pulling my hair out! :D Thank you!
My house was built in the mid '70's and every door I have replaced so far has been like this one! Now I know how to get them to fit better ... now to find the energy to re-do them all HAHA Thanks and great video ... I hope you have a video to install the trim!
I normally watch you to learn drywall, but after more than 1 year of watching your awesome drywall videos I am really enjoying watching your door framing and casing videos. I hope to see more of these types in the future.
Just watched this video as I prepare to replace all 11 interior doors in my home. Super happy to see that even Pros make mistakes...but then they don't freak out about it. They just fix it. :)
This is an awesome video for the sheer reason things don't always go perfectly as depicted in most home shows. I've often wondered why I get extra problems like this and it's great to see others encounter it too. You deal with it and adapt. Nicely done sir
This is a great video because it shows you the issues you run into when working on stuff like this, and our dauntless carpenter figuring out how to deal with the problems. I don't feel so unlucky after watching this.
There are way too many best-case scenario videos out there but in practice, it's rarely that simple, and at that point, those videos leave you hung out to dry. Thanks for keeping it real!
I HATE installing doors. Your video was so down-to-earth and showed some real problems/aggravations. You did an excellent job. I sure enjoy your videos.
The fact that you found one plumb wall is a surprise to me. Certainly anyone that has hung a door feels for you. It is a real pain. The only ones I have found moderately easy were ones that I installed the rough framing, since I spent extra time making sure it was completely plumb and wide enough to a little slack to be filled by the shims. As a Tip: The door appears to be opening about an inch on its own. That normally indicates that the hinge side jam is less then 90 degrees to the door. An acute angle like that binds the hinge slightly so that it causes a very little spring effect. It can be solved very simply by loosening the jam side of the hinge and placing a piece of paper about the width of a playing card under the inner half of the hinge wing (the side against the knuckle and the pin). I have found it generally takes two to three folds of the card to make the pin side of the hinge move enough to square the hinge with the door when the door is closed. Ironically, yesterday I was a clients house working on some cabinets and she asked if there was anything I could do about a door that had been sticking and rubbing on the latch side. I did the exact same thing but in this case, put the card shims under the outer half of the hinge wing. This causes the hinge pin to move away from the latch side. 10 minutes and a door that was stuck for a 16 mos was fixed.
@@@yevreeva Here is a video that shows what I was attempting to describe. ruclips.net/video/7ohPmN2AgOM/видео.html I found it with a quick search and a few views of the result to find one that came close. In all my years I have never pulled out a plane to solve a door issue like that guy suggested at the end of his video. The problem is that the rub will come back over time since the weight of the door is shifted cause even more stress on those hinges. Especially if the frame is installed as professionally as was @Vancouver Carpenter. His perfectionist attitude towards work is amazing. If the house has not settled and caused the door frame to be way out of square, you can use this technique. But before you do, check to make sure the knuckles that the pin goes through have not been sprung. If they are bent open then replace the hinges with new hinges. Then see if it need further adjustment. If the frame IS way way way out of square/plumb then unfortunately is is best to remove trim and free up the frame by cutting the frame nails with a reciprocating saw. Its actually not as bad as it sounds. You are just rehanging the door. @Vancouver Carpenter - sorry for taking over the thread with my long diatribe. Keep up these fantastic videos, you are one of the best on youtube for sure. Chuck
Thank you for showing a _hard_ install rather than an easy one! This is how I expect an upcoming door install for me to go. I need to know how to fix the issues that "normal" installs don't mention. This is way more useful than you would imagine!
This is an excellent video. When you ran into a problem you didn't fudge the fix, like a lot of other videos I've watched. You are a very good carpenter and teacher. Thanks man!
Great work ethic a few years down the line the coats of paint will cause the door to bind, you eliminate the issue, and say “why should I knowingly cause someone else a problem” shame the person who fitted the partition wall couldn’t have had the same work ethic. Well done, great video, you have a new subscriber.
It's an amazing world we live in when you can find an excellent video solving exactly the same bad framing problem you find yourself cursing about for days. Thanks for doing this, sharing the adjustments that have to be made, etc. This was invaluable.
You should be so proud of yourself for powering through this!! I would have wanted to quit and try a video on the next dang door! Well done! PERSEVERE!!
Installing a door now in the island. It was encouraging that I am not the only one having a problem. I need to now learn how to take it as cheerfully as you :)
I can’t tell you how helpful this was. I have to hang two doors in a very old house where undoubtedly the framing isn’t perfect and this helped so much when things aren’t perfect.
I enjoyed your video. When I was younger, I worked as a finish carpenter. The first tools I took into a new job was a 6 foot level & a large sledge hammer, just to get all the rough frame openings square & plumb. Next I'd rasp, or saw off all of the overhanging sheetrock in the door openings. Then place the framed door into the wall opening, jamb a shim on either side of the door frame header, so the frame would hold still, step back & look at the door/frame reveal & adjust as needed. From here, I'd hang the hinge side, then the latch side, similar to your method.
I'm a long time DIY homeowner and really learn a lot from your videos. It's all the little details and craftsmanship that I learn from. Your instructional style is excellent. Thanks for making these great videos.
Fantastic video. You're a great teacher. I found your video because I'm in the middle of a nightmarish installation of a new exterior steel door slab in an existing frame. My search term was "how to install new steel door slab in existing warped frame". The new door is 1/4" proud of the frame at latch side top corner. I'm thinking of slicing a long tapered piece of poplar to make the door reveal uniform from top to bottom. I appreciate that you obviously spent a lot of time making sure your video was helpful. I am guessing you rehearsed what you were going to say and do before you actually started making the video. You speak clearly and concisely and don't sprinkle in unnecessary "ums, errs and ahhs". I've installed lots of doors in my 60 years of DIY work and many have problems like you ran into. Plumb and square framing is not as common as one would wish. I'd say it's a good thing you had problems because you calmly explain how to work your way through them. You were wise to forge ahead and make the video with this door rather than take the easy way out and do one without problems. I'd hire you if it wasn't for the fact it's rewarding to do things myself!
This accurately sums up my day every time I have to install a jamb lol I usually have to factor in the dap line on the old trim work, doing restoration and all, so that's an extra factor to add in to the mix, making sure your reveals also match what they were before while installing it properly. Good times!
I like how you showed your mistake . I’m buying a camera man and starting my Chanel . You gave me the kick I needed bro . Been contemplating it for a while .wish me luck .
Thankyou .I have watched 20 or more videos on door jambs and hanging doors. You give so much more information and show every single step. This is how DIY videos should be made!! I love that it didnt work out and you had problems with this door. You were able to show what to do if this happens. For me this always happens ! NO OTHER video shows that something went wrong and how to fix it. Your an awesome instructor with a bonus of being a handsome guy makes it easy to enjoy watching !!
Dude.., you are the Boom..... HONEST and FRICKEN funny. LOVE your videos. True ta life situations thats others dont want to share ( that dont know how to share ) GREAT JOB as usual.
I like how you showed an imperfect door frame and how you deal with that. So many door hanging videos show a door frame that is perfectly square and plumb and they just install the door, but most of the time the door frames I have will be out somewhere and I need instruction on how to deal with that. Thanks for the detail.
Didn't see you check diagonals for the opening. That one of the first things I do to give me a mental visual of the opening before checking plumb on the framing. Thanks for your tips and tricks.
Far more educational to see the problems and the process you used to fix than a standard install. Thank you for your patience and for sharing the full detail!
YOU SAVED ME! I've been without a door since October 2021 because the contractor that installed didn't do a good job and I couldn't close the door. Been waiting for him to come fix it and finally gave up! Took out the jamb and started from the beginning. Was able to rescue the jamb and the door. Too bad I'm still out the money for the install...
Thanks for the honesty. Some home improvement videos are too perfect. When I do carpentry ... well, it is not my forte. Thanks for showing me how to solve some of these issues. Tom
Thanks for keeping it real. This is my home through and through. Nothing is straight, nothing is plumb. Built nearly 50 years ago by a home builder. Things were never made quite right, or have moved over the years, or both! So just when i think I've 'got a quick easy'...fix ;) So thanks for a video with real problems (and real errors)...ahh..mis-takes..our true teachers and guides. From a guy sick of a perfect world...you truly did not need to 'salvage' your video...just re visit your intentions. We always start of with the best intentions...then we learn and progress. Your guidance, thoughts and instructions are truly valuable. Many, many thanks.
I watch a lot of web development videos. The best show their mistakes and how they debug and resolve. Thanks so much as I prep for home remodeling projects. This is one of my favorite channels to learn the right way to do something.
Wish I had had this video when I started re-doing my doors last year! Emphasis on most instructional videos seems to be "hang a door in 10 minutes!" with no reference to when circumstances aren't less than perfect. Thanks for this video!
Years ago, when I was finishing off my parent's basement, I found a bunch of returned 6 panel doors that had been cut for various openings for about $10 each. I just made every opening a little big, shimmed a pine board on the hinge side plumb, mounted the door with self-spacing hinges, then shimmed pine boards on the top and latch side to fit the already hinged door. After I added jam strips and casing, it was hard to tell it from a pre-hung door (other than the self-spacing hinges, which I could have avoided if I'd cared to), and each door always opened and closed perfectly. I little hackery is kind of fun every now and then.
All your videos are wonderful! Love the easy to digest straightforward answers that breakdown the basics to any given task while also showing some unconventional methods along the way. Your comparisons of techniques and approachable attitude inject that much needed confidence to push through any learning curves to master a seemingly impossible task. Showing your “mistakes” and “afterthoughts” is a welcomed touch that legitimizes your advice and gives permission to newcomers to embrace hurdles as the learning moments they prove to be.
Easiest way is to trim back the drywall....shave it down so the casing is recessed slightly into it where the drywall sticks out....I've had to do this a few times ...if done carefully nobody will even notice unless they really look at it.
Use a flush cut router bit to ride the sheetrock and cut the jamb. After it's flush, scribe and cut a jamb extension. Apply wood glue and tack it onto the jamb.
Entertaining and useful! Lots of 'perfect' install videos out there but rarely does it go that way in older homes. Thanks for showing the 'fix' portion!
This is without doubt the best DYI instruction video I've ever seen because it shows what you will actually experience. These were not weird conditions these were normal conditions. Weird (actually fantasy) is what most videos show, where everything works perfectly the first time.
Most valuable thing here to me was “ok so what do we do here? We start over”. They never say that in the other how-to videos, so I was stumped when my door wasn’t aligned. This advice gave me “permission” to start over and fix it
Seriously dude, this is better than tutorials and what’s out there. Even though we love all who share. It’s like on the job training and experience. The mistakes and problems are what everyone needs. Made very in depth and appreciated. Thanks. I’m def subscribed. Cheers from Long Island
The inch or larger space on the bottom actually has to do with fire code in most cities and airflow to prevent backdraft. So while the gap sucks, especially on bathroom doors it actually is there for a purpose
Excellent and very helpful. Thanks for sticking with it when you ran into challenges. Solving those things that don’t go right is what I call good teaching
A plumb-Level laser is a quick way to check a rough opening on both sides. I would have pulled the door off once I had the hinge side level. I would also use shorter screws to temp(orarily) install the jamb if in doubt?Once everything is good you could then individually remove each screw and replace with longer screws to hold permanently. Use mason line (or jet line) diagonally from the (rough opening )corner to corner on the on the left and right of the door jamb. If they touch at these center then it’s true not twisted or cockeyed? You basically had to clean up the framers and drywaller’s mistakes.
It's good to see a problem solving video, thank you. Let's face it, very few things go exactly to plan on site. I've struggled with a job finishing some not-so-perfect student accommodation renovations and pretty much *nothing* goes to plan on it! It's getting there... So it's great to show folks that buildings are often out of plumb, square or parallel. And sometimes we just have to resort to the line of best fit to get the best result, then carefully apply trim to make it pretty. :-)
at least in my life, youtube is the best part of the internet, this is a great example of why, just sharing of information willingly by people who know their craft amd are living breathing human beings with oersonalities and all is just invaluable in my opinion. Thank you sir!!
"Why would I knowingly cause somebody else problems." Words to live by. And Great video VC - I learn so much more when your problems solving skills are also in play. Great camera angles btw - Much Appreciated!! :)
LOL, as usual are neighbors to the north are just cool. Your troubleshooting and clear explanations made this the best of the 10 install videos I have watched so far. I think I am ready now. Thanks so much.
this might be one of the first videos ive seen from u a few years ago, or atleast one of the first i remember. and back when i did see this, i was like nope...doors are hard to do. fast forward a few years and still, not a ton of experience under my belt but ive cut some drywal, and added new outlets, patched drywall, so im getting a feel, and here i am, watching this video again. i can say today, i feel better about trying something like this. this video is good because it shows, hey...this isnt always easy, stuff happens, and sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do to get it to work. and thats huge for people watching to understand, we dont have to be amazing and perfect with tons of experience. this stuff happens, just gotta know how to combat against it. love ur videos
"...Cause someone else problems." I could almost hear the pain in that comment. And in my opinion one of the biggest banes of the construction industry.
I just recently learned how to “mud frame” off another great video ....is that how we are going to bridge the gap???? Ok...likely not, but loved the real world example. Thanks again for posting Ben!
You learn more from mistakes. I appreciated that you went through with the video because the issues you dealt with are real life issue that make the one hour job take 8 hours.
We are installing our interior doors with jamb! You have the best straight to the point video and also show the mistakes how u fixed them! Nice! Thanks! Now, good luck to mines!😂😂👍
I'm glad this door didn't go in smooth. I dont install doors too often, but it seems everything goes wrong every time. This video was incredibly helpful, so thank you. My go to is usually grabbing my planer lol.
You got lucky! Had a prehung door that I was trying to instruct a coworker how to install...well that 30 minute job turned into an hour and half.... Thanks in part to our local lumber company door shop. We have a saying around here. "There's square, and then there's Ridout square." The rough opening framing was SQUARE the Ridout DOOR was 5/8" out of square! Yes the DOOR was the thing out of square! So my coworker got a free lesson in how to use a jack plane to square a whacked out door.
This video was MORE helpful because of the unexpected issues you had! Thank you so much for your explanations, especially the problem-solving you did! Thank you for keeping all that in the video! Love your channel, by the way!
I’m just about to hang my first door in my 1950’s basement. This video was so helpful (and entertaining too) compared to the videos from others that show the perfect plumb scenarios. Not all in life is plumb and it was great to learn what to do in when it’s not. THANK YOU!!! 👍 subscribed now.
Since door openings are never perfect, this video was more educational than most. It explained how to solve issues when things go wrong. If everything went perfect, what would we do when things went wrong? If the struggle was real for you, imagine what it’s like for DIYers. I have 3 doors (not pre-hung) that I’m going to attempt to install myself. Having watched this video, I now understand why a door that I had installed does stay closed properly, it is not plumb. Depending on how successful I am with the 3 doors, I’ll attempt to plumb the big arse heavy fire door…. I will get help for that one! Flattened by a Fire Door is not how I’m leaving this world….lol
Loved the video. I thoroughly enjoyed the fact that you used a real situation and not something staged that always shows a perfect fit. You are way nicer than I would have been. I would have called that GC and told him to get over here and fix his jams, but, I do know it’s quicker to fix the situation yourself than it is trying to wrangle a GC up and actually get a fix done in a timely manner.
I've replaced every door in my house (including installing a brand new back door and replacing the front door). It's funny how you run into these issues with existing doorways. Great video on troubleshooting these problems. I've got 1 set of closet doors to go and then I'm DONE! (with the door replacements, not the rest of the reno.)
Finally! Someone showed what to do when things aren't perfect. I've hung many doors and it's been my experience that you run into problems more often than is shown in most 'how to' videos. Twisted or bowed 2x4s, out of plumb walls, bowed walls and sometimes, bowed doors! Things go wrong and you have to fix them. Don't feel bad that the install in your video didn't go as 'smooth' as in all the other door install videos. This is a great video.
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So so true! 😂😂😁 Happening to me right now! Hope I figure it out like he did! 😉
Agree wholeheartedly!
The true professional knows how to fix the mistakes.
good video, would be great if he did the trim, because that is going to be a nightmare. what would he do rip a custom extension jam for half the jam that goes from 3/8 to nothing and extend 1/2 the trim with that same taper to return it to the wall?
This is the real world of door hanging. It's a better video because the problems you ran into are realistic. Good job, Mr Vancouver.
There was a study done with two women selling blenders on tv. One woman had a perfect delivery and did everything right. The second woman spilled the blender which made her nervous and threw her off a bit. The woman that spilled the blender ended up selling more bc she was more relatable to her audience. Thanks for showing that you had to start over like what happens in the real world with hanging doors.
All the things that made this video longer (which you called mistakes) were super duper educational and made the video even better.
Learnt more from watching you troubleshoot the process than I would have but watching a perfect install! No old houses are prefect so it’s great to see you work through it! Thank you!
No doubt. Amen to that.
This was the best video, because it shows the things that normally go wrong while hanging a door. And what he did to fix those issues.
Anyone can install a door in a plumb and square door reveal. Dealing with this shit is what most of us weekend warriors are looking for help with. Thanks for the vid. Thumbs up
We dont even check if anything is plumb ore square whe have special screws so we can work plumb at any time you carpenters should check them out would save so much time it takes me 30 minuts to finish a door but we have to aseemble the door frame and the walls are 9 out of 10 made from stone where we live
@@havefun1226 Can you give the name of these special screws, are they cambered? I love woodworking, but MAN DO I SUCK AT IT. I'm NOT having fun at this point. These guys make it look simple, but I can measure 10 fekkin times and still waste lumber. I'd appreciate any feedback and/or knowledge you have to offer. PEACE
@@havefun1226 yea, what are they called?
@@cornfusedatbest6693 See you at the support group.
@@havefun1226 special screws? Enlighten me im curious
Nice to see a craftsman who takes pride in his work, and thinks of the guys who will have to work on things 50 years from now.
As a retired Carpenter, I removed the door from the jamb and leveled my headjamb, then go to the hinge jamb and I always ran a 2 1/2" deck screw into the center screw hole of the hinge after I removed the short screw in the hinge. At this point, I put in the door and finished with the latch jamb hung to the door. I never used screws in my jamb... just in the hinges. I used 8p finish nails in the rest of the jamb installation.
I like how you showed your mistake. Anyone who says they have never done that has never set a door.
Amen
I was just thinking that. This is the exact mistake I made yesterday. So glad I'm not alone.
yes i did it to
I've made that mistake as well, especially when trying to make a homeowner happy when I know getting a smaller width door would make my life easier.
Just paid a 'pro' with great reviews to add a closet to a room. I ended up with very badly framed walls and I stopped him after he'd spent hours (literally) trying to hang the two doors with no success. Took me a day to tear down, and another to frame out properly my darn self. THANK YOU for showing how to adjust for mistakes. Had I seen this video before I did the tear down, I would have been able to frame the door correctly myself without the extra work of reframing. Saved your video for the next time I delude myself into thinking things will be quicker and more professionally done when hiring a pro!
I had lost the will to live after spending a couple of hours trying to figure out why my prehung door was binding and wouldn't shut in my new basement bath framing... but your video saved my sanity! :D While the hinge side was perfectly plumb, the latch side framing was a hot mess! Knowing that I'm not alone and seeing you have to do trial and error gives me the courage to try it again without pulling my hair out! :D Thank you!
Go for it mate, you will get it done in the end
I appreciate the fact that you had those issues to deal with. It wasn't just another, "Another simple install. Easy, peasy" video.
My house was built in the mid '70's and every door I have replaced so far has been like this one! Now I know how to get them to fit better ... now to find the energy to re-do them all HAHA Thanks and great video ... I hope you have a video to install the trim!
Wow a real legitimate carpentry video. Definitely belongs on the Vancouver Drywaller channel.
😂 Funniest comment I've read in weeks. Well played, sir.
@@daveyjones7391 🤪 haha
I normally watch you to learn drywall, but after more than 1 year of watching your awesome drywall videos I am really enjoying watching your door framing and casing videos. I hope to see more of these types in the future.
Finish carpenters are definitely the unsung heroes of fine homebuilding. Subscribed!
Just watched this video as I prepare to replace all 11 interior doors in my home. Super happy to see that even Pros make mistakes...but then they don't freak out about it. They just fix it. :)
This is an awesome video for the sheer reason things don't always go perfectly as depicted in most home shows. I've often wondered why I get extra problems like this and it's great to see others encounter it too. You deal with it and adapt. Nicely done sir
Mistakes are the best way to see how to do it right. Well done and thanks
Agree with comments, that sometimes when there's a screw up, it's more valuable than when it magically goes right the first time. Well done!
This is a great video because it shows you the issues you run into when working on stuff like this, and our dauntless carpenter figuring out how to deal with the problems. I don't feel so unlucky after watching this.
There are way too many best-case scenario videos out there but in practice, it's rarely that simple, and at that point, those videos leave you hung out to dry. Thanks for keeping it real!
I HATE installing doors. Your video was so down-to-earth and showed some real problems/aggravations. You did an excellent job. I sure enjoy your videos.
The fact that you found one plumb wall is a surprise to me. Certainly anyone that has hung a door feels for you. It is a real pain. The only ones I have found moderately easy were ones that I installed the rough framing, since I spent extra time making sure it was completely plumb and wide enough to a little slack to be filled by the shims.
As a Tip: The door appears to be opening about an inch on its own. That normally indicates that the hinge side jam is less then 90 degrees to the door. An acute angle like that binds the hinge slightly so that it causes a very little spring effect. It can be solved very simply by loosening the jam side of the hinge and placing a piece of paper about the width of a playing card under the inner half of the hinge wing (the side against the knuckle and the pin). I have found it generally takes two to three folds of the card to make the pin side of the hinge move enough to square the hinge with the door when the door is closed.
Ironically, yesterday I was a clients house working on some cabinets and she asked if there was anything I could do about a door that had been sticking and rubbing on the latch side. I did the exact same thing but in this case, put the card shims under the outer half of the hinge wing. This causes the hinge pin to move away from the latch side. 10 minutes and a door that was stuck for a 16 mos was fixed.
I'd like to see a video for this tip. Visually it would be a little easier to grasp
@@@yevreeva Here is a video that shows what I was attempting to describe. ruclips.net/video/7ohPmN2AgOM/видео.html I found it with a quick search and a few views of the result to find one that came close.
In all my years I have never pulled out a plane to solve a door issue like that guy suggested at the end of his video. The problem is that the rub will come back over time since the weight of the door is shifted cause even more stress on those hinges.
Especially if the frame is installed as professionally as was @Vancouver Carpenter. His perfectionist attitude towards work is amazing.
If the house has not settled and caused the door frame to be way out of square, you can use this technique. But before you do, check to make sure the knuckles that the pin goes through have not been sprung. If they are bent open then replace the hinges with new hinges. Then see if it need further adjustment.
If the frame IS way way way out of square/plumb then unfortunately is is best to remove trim and free up the frame by cutting the frame nails with a reciprocating saw. Its actually not as bad as it sounds. You are just rehanging the door.
@Vancouver Carpenter - sorry for taking over the thread with my long diatribe. Keep up these fantastic videos, you are one of the best on youtube for sure.
Chuck
Thank you for showing a _hard_ install rather than an easy one! This is how I expect an upcoming door install for me to go. I need to know how to fix the issues that "normal" installs don't mention. This is way more useful than you would imagine!
There are tons of How To Hang a Door videos where everything goes perfectly. In my world, the weird exceptions are more the norm. Great video. Thanks.
Right! I've never owned a home younger than 30 years old. Square door openings are a unicorn.
This dude keeps it REAL. I have a lot of respect for a guy that shows mistakes and all the "unorthodox" steps. I know how it is. Nice job.
That "Yes!" from behind the closed door. I felt that in my soul. Excellent job dealing with the issue!
This is an excellent video. When you ran into a problem you didn't fudge the fix, like a lot of other videos I've watched. You are a very good carpenter and teacher. Thanks man!
Videos like this are valuable, showed what to do when things don't go right or as planned.
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Absolutely. The world is often not perfect. My house is a perfect example ... the quality of the door and window installations is pretty poor.
Totally agree! Fixing a mistake is more important than a basic install
Great work ethic a few years down the line the coats of paint will cause the door to bind, you eliminate the issue, and say “why should I knowingly cause someone else a problem” shame the person who fitted the partition wall couldn’t have had the same work ethic. Well done, great video, you have a new subscriber.
It's an amazing world we live in when you can find an excellent video solving exactly the same bad framing problem you find yourself cursing about for days. Thanks for doing this, sharing the adjustments that have to be made, etc. This was invaluable.
You should be so proud of yourself for powering through this!! I would have wanted to quit and try a video on the next dang door! Well done! PERSEVERE!!
Installing a door now in the island. It was encouraging that I am not the only one having a problem. I need to now learn how to take it as cheerfully as you :)
I can’t tell you how helpful this was. I have to hang two doors in a very old house where undoubtedly the framing isn’t perfect and this helped so much when things aren’t perfect.
I enjoyed your video. When I was younger, I worked as a finish carpenter. The first tools I took into a new job was a 6 foot level & a large sledge hammer, just to get all the rough frame openings square & plumb. Next I'd rasp, or saw off all of the overhanging sheetrock in the door openings. Then place the framed door into the wall opening, jamb a shim on either side of the door frame header, so the frame would hold still, step back & look at the door/frame reveal & adjust as needed. From here, I'd hang the hinge side, then the latch side, similar to your method.
I'm a long time DIY homeowner and really learn a lot from your videos. It's all the little details and craftsmanship that I learn from. Your instructional style is excellent. Thanks for making these great videos.
Fantastic video. You're a great teacher. I found your video because I'm in the middle of a nightmarish installation of a new exterior steel door slab in an existing frame. My search term was "how to install new steel door slab in existing warped frame". The new door is 1/4" proud of the frame at latch side top corner. I'm thinking of slicing a long tapered piece of poplar to make the door reveal uniform from top to bottom. I appreciate that you obviously spent a lot of time making sure your video was helpful. I am guessing you rehearsed what you were going to say and do before you actually started making the video. You speak clearly and concisely and don't sprinkle in unnecessary "ums, errs and ahhs". I've installed lots of doors in my 60 years of DIY work and many have problems like you ran into. Plumb and square framing is not as common as one would wish. I'd say it's a good thing you had problems because you calmly explain how to work your way through them. You were wise to forge ahead and make the video with this door rather than take the easy way out and do one without problems. I'd hire you if it wasn't for the fact it's rewarding to do things myself!
This accurately sums up my day every time I have to install a jamb lol
I usually have to factor in the dap line on the old trim work, doing restoration and all, so that's an extra factor to add in to the mix, making sure your reveals also match what they were before while installing it properly. Good times!
I like how you showed your mistake . I’m buying a camera man and starting my Chanel . You gave me the kick I needed bro . Been contemplating it for a while .wish me luck .
Funny, entertaining and real. I'm not the only one that has problems like this guy.
Thankyou .I have watched 20 or more videos on door jambs and hanging doors. You give so much more information and show every single step. This is how DIY videos should be made!! I love that it didnt work out and you had problems with this door. You were able to show what to do if this happens. For me this always happens ! NO OTHER video shows that something went wrong and how to fix it. Your an awesome instructor with a bonus of being a handsome guy makes it easy to enjoy watching !!
Dude.., you are the Boom.....
HONEST and FRICKEN funny.
LOVE your videos.
True ta life situations thats others dont want to share ( that dont know how to share ) GREAT JOB as usual.
I like how you showed an imperfect door frame and how you deal with that. So many door hanging videos show a door frame that is perfectly square and plumb and they just install the door, but most of the time the door frames I have will be out somewhere and I need instruction on how to deal with that. Thanks for the detail.
Didn't see you check diagonals for the opening. That one of the first things I do to give me a mental visual of the opening before checking plumb on the framing.
Thanks for your tips and tricks.
Far more educational to see the problems and the process you used to fix than a standard install. Thank you for your patience and for sharing the full detail!
YOU SAVED ME! I've been without a door since October 2021 because the contractor that installed didn't do a good job and I couldn't close the door. Been waiting for him to come fix it and finally gave up! Took out the jamb and started from the beginning. Was able to rescue the jamb and the door. Too bad I'm still out the money for the install...
Great to hear! Sorry about the lost money.
Thanks for the honesty. Some home improvement videos are too perfect. When I do carpentry ... well, it is not my forte. Thanks for showing me how to solve some of these issues.
Tom
Finally a real video on how to install a door.
Thank you for being so thorough and showing how to make corrections on the fly... very helpful for a multi-tasking pro handyman!
Thank you brother for showing what is some of the bs we finish carpenters have to go through!
Thanks for keeping it real. This is my home through and through. Nothing is straight, nothing is plumb. Built nearly 50 years ago by a home builder. Things were never made quite right, or have moved over the years, or both! So just when i think I've 'got a quick easy'...fix ;) So thanks for a video with real problems (and real errors)...ahh..mis-takes..our true teachers and guides. From a guy sick of a perfect world...you truly did not need to 'salvage' your video...just re visit your intentions. We always start of with the best intentions...then we learn and progress. Your guidance, thoughts and instructions are truly valuable. Many, many thanks.
Please make a video on how you do trim on a door like this. Most of the doors/windows in my house have this problem :(
Alex C - He has a video on this here ( ruclips.net/video/AQHHfZqRTyE/видео.html ) watch it all first the camera guy has a correct tip.
That's exactly what I was looking for
I watch a lot of web development videos. The best show their mistakes and how they debug and resolve. Thanks so much as I prep for home remodeling projects. This is one of my favorite channels to learn the right way to do something.
Wish I had had this video when I started re-doing my doors last year! Emphasis on most instructional videos seems to be "hang a door in 10 minutes!" with no reference to when circumstances aren't less than perfect. Thanks for this video!
Years ago, when I was finishing off my parent's basement, I found a bunch of returned 6 panel doors that had been cut for various openings for about $10 each. I just made every opening a little big, shimmed a pine board on the hinge side plumb, mounted the door with self-spacing hinges, then shimmed pine boards on the top and latch side to fit the already hinged door. After I added jam strips and casing, it was hard to tell it from a pre-hung door (other than the self-spacing hinges, which I could have avoided if I'd cared to), and each door always opened and closed perfectly. I little hackery is kind of fun every now and then.
Looking forward to the "complete other video" for how you trim that wonky wall out !
Did he ever make a vid on trimming it out?
I know it's painful in the moment, but thank you for still filming! the experience of how much those extra screws affect the spacing is invaluable!
All your videos are wonderful! Love the easy to digest straightforward answers that breakdown the basics to any given task while also showing some unconventional methods along the way. Your comparisons of techniques and approachable attitude inject that much needed confidence to push through any learning curves to master a seemingly impossible task. Showing your “mistakes” and “afterthoughts” is a welcomed touch that legitimizes your advice and gives permission to newcomers to embrace hurdles as the learning moments they prove to be.
GREAT vid. It’s nice to see real world problems rather than just a simple, straightforward solution. This helps. Thank you!
Thanks for keeping it real.....the learning value of fixing mistakes is far more than a clean installs which are rare....big thumbs up!!
I hope you make a video on how to case this door! I would really like to see how this is done.
any difference use latex caulking to fill
Same here!
Easiest way is to trim back the drywall....shave it down so the casing is recessed slightly into it where the drywall sticks out....I've had to do this a few times ...if done carefully nobody will even notice unless they really look at it.
Michael C p
Use a flush cut router bit to ride the sheetrock and cut the jamb. After it's flush, scribe and cut a jamb extension. Apply wood glue and tack it onto the jamb.
Love this guy! Shows exactly what happens to me on my DIY projects... has the corrections needed to solve the issues. Great vids!
Entertaining and useful! Lots of 'perfect' install videos out there but rarely does it go that way in older homes. Thanks for showing the 'fix' portion!
If these videos would have been available 50 years ago, my life would have been so much easier.
This video has helped out alot, some people expect take a door out and slap a new on in. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Well, I feel better. I thought this kind of stuff only happens to us DIY guys! Thanks Vancouver Carpenter.
Thanks for showing us what to do when there's a problem. I have a feeling that's the sort of thing I'll be dealing with when I switch out my doors.
One of the most valuable RUclips videos I’ve ever watched.
Plus One!!
This is without doubt the best DYI instruction video I've ever seen because it shows what you will actually experience. These were not weird conditions these were normal conditions. Weird (actually fantasy) is what most videos show, where everything works perfectly the first time.
Most valuable thing here to me was “ok so what do we do here? We start over”. They never say that in the other how-to videos, so I was stumped when my door wasn’t aligned. This advice gave me “permission” to start over and fix it
Seriously dude, this is better than tutorials and what’s out there. Even though we love all who share. It’s like on the job training and experience. The mistakes and problems are what everyone needs. Made very in depth and appreciated. Thanks. I’m def subscribed. Cheers from Long Island
The inch or larger space on the bottom actually has to do with fire code in most cities and airflow to prevent backdraft. So while the gap sucks, especially on bathroom doors it actually is there for a purpose
I think the gap was intended to accomodate carpeting
Excellent and very helpful. Thanks for sticking with it when you ran into challenges. Solving those things that don’t go right is what I call good teaching
There is nothing nor annoying than a how to video where everything works out perfect. You think you can do it then all this happens!!!
Great video
Perfect video. There is more understanding when things are not perfect and must be corrected. Thanks for sticking with this perfect video.
A plumb-Level laser is a quick way to check a rough opening on both sides. I would have pulled the door off once I had the hinge side level. I would also use shorter screws to temp(orarily) install the jamb if in doubt?Once everything is good you could then individually remove each screw and replace with longer screws to hold permanently. Use mason line (or jet line) diagonally from the (rough opening )corner to corner on the on the left and right of the door jamb. If they touch at these center then it’s true not twisted or cockeyed? You basically had to clean up the framers and drywaller’s mistakes.
It's good to see a problem solving video, thank you. Let's face it, very few things go exactly to plan on site.
I've struggled with a job finishing some not-so-perfect student accommodation renovations and pretty much *nothing* goes to plan on it! It's getting there... So it's great to show folks that buildings are often out of plumb, square or parallel. And sometimes we just have to resort to the line of best fit to get the best result, then carefully apply trim to make it pretty. :-)
at least in my life, youtube is the best part of the internet, this is a great example of why, just sharing of information willingly by people who know their craft amd are living breathing human beings with oersonalities and all is just invaluable in my opinion. Thank you sir!!
"Why would I knowingly cause somebody else problems." Words to live by.
And Great video VC - I learn so much more when your problems solving skills are also in play.
Great camera angles btw - Much Appreciated!! :)
I really appreciate you showing that a mistake can be made by experts...Thank you so much!
Thank you for showing us the whole thing with the small failures and the final work. I learned from this video.
LOL, as usual are neighbors to the north are just cool. Your troubleshooting and clear explanations made this the best of the 10 install videos I have watched so far. I think I am ready now. Thanks so much.
this might be one of the first videos ive seen from u a few years ago, or atleast one of the first i remember. and back when i did see this, i was like nope...doors are hard to do.
fast forward a few years and still, not a ton of experience under my belt but ive cut some drywal, and added new outlets, patched drywall, so im getting a feel, and here i am, watching this video again. i can say today, i feel better about trying something like this. this video is good because it shows, hey...this isnt always easy, stuff happens, and sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do to get it to work. and thats huge for people watching to understand, we dont have to be amazing and perfect with tons of experience. this stuff happens, just gotta know how to combat against it.
love ur videos
"...Cause someone else problems." I could almost hear the pain in that comment. And in my opinion one of the biggest banes of the construction industry.
I just recently learned how to “mud frame” off another great video ....is that how we are going to bridge the gap????
Ok...likely not, but loved the real world example. Thanks again for posting Ben!
I will probably plane the jamb down. I will do a follow up video within a month or so.
So brilliant to show the problems that everyone faces in the real world! I learned a lot from your 'mistakes'! 👍
You learn more from mistakes. I appreciated that you went through with the video because the issues you dealt with are real life issue that make the one hour job take 8 hours.
We are installing our interior doors with jamb! You have the best straight to the point video and also show the mistakes how u fixed them! Nice! Thanks! Now, good luck to mines!😂😂👍
I have a great respect for you posting this. The struggle is real! Thanks
I'm glad this door didn't go in smooth. I dont install doors too often, but it seems everything goes wrong every time. This video was incredibly helpful, so thank you. My go to is usually grabbing my planer lol.
The exact emotion when it actually fits like it should "YeeEAASSssSS"
I know your really just a good handyman essentially and that's awesome!
You got lucky! Had a prehung door that I was trying to instruct a coworker how to install...well that 30 minute job turned into an hour and half....
Thanks in part to our local lumber company door shop. We have a saying around here. "There's square, and then there's Ridout square."
The rough opening framing was SQUARE the Ridout DOOR was 5/8" out of square! Yes the DOOR was the thing out of square! So my coworker got a free lesson in how to use a jack plane to square a whacked out door.
This video was MORE helpful because of the unexpected issues you had! Thank you so much for your explanations, especially the problem-solving you did! Thank you for keeping all that in the video! Love your channel, by the way!
I’m just about to hang my first door in my 1950’s basement. This video was so helpful (and entertaining too) compared to the videos from others that show the perfect plumb scenarios. Not all in life is plumb and it was great to learn what to do in when it’s not. THANK YOU!!! 👍 subscribed now.
Thanks for including all the difficulties. This is more helpful than a “perfect” install. Real life!
Since door openings are never perfect, this video was more educational than most. It explained how to solve issues when things go wrong. If everything went perfect, what would we do when things went wrong? If the struggle was real for you, imagine what it’s like for DIYers. I have 3 doors (not pre-hung) that I’m going to attempt to install myself. Having watched this video, I now understand why a door that I had installed does stay closed properly, it is not plumb. Depending on how successful I am with the 3 doors, I’ll attempt to plumb the big arse heavy fire door…. I will get help for that one! Flattened by a Fire Door is not how I’m leaving this world….lol
Loved the video. I thoroughly enjoyed the fact that you used a real situation and not something staged that always shows a perfect fit. You are way nicer than I would have been. I would have called that GC and told him to get over here and fix his jams, but, I do know it’s quicker to fix the situation yourself than it is trying to wrangle a GC up and actually get a fix done in a timely manner.
I've replaced every door in my house (including installing a brand new back door and replacing the front door). It's funny how you run into these issues with existing doorways. Great video on troubleshooting these problems. I've got 1 set of closet doors to go and then I'm DONE! (with the door replacements, not the rest of the reno.)