@@akishot6735 Early w202's are fine. Things went south when they switched to water based paint for environmental reasons. i have a 1990 300E and a 1993 C200D. excellent cars.
@TiltVHS that's because the water comes down the window rubber and into the door, where it can't escape. I had a 1995 c-class diesel for over 5 years. It was a great car, now I have a w123 & w124.
I have a 1995 c200 , other than the transmission gave up the ghost due to previous owner lack of care , so far the only complain i have is the left door cable is rattling like mad and drives me crazy and small thin plastic parts turns brittle and need extra care when knocking them around. The car is smooth , fuel efficient , the aircon is freezing cold and the handling is superb. I love this car and cant stop being proud for owning it.
A world apart from the design philosophies of Mercedes today: crass, blingy, mass market cars with a ludicrously large model line up to cover every market segment. No better quality than any other manufacturer, simply trading on that badge and their past reputation. What happened to their 'traditional values' mentioned in this video?!
As far as the line-up is concerned, Audi, BMW & Volvo all had to diversify. If MB had kept making a few sedans of various sizes forever, they'd have gone bust long ago.
My '94 C250D is in very good condition. It has 256kkm on the clock. 23 years in our family. Now I’m doing what’s necessary to keep it as good as possible.
I can truly confirm that, my dad had w201, w202, and w203. I've got the 1995 w202 manual c200, and it is indestructible, low Maintainance car, the early 2000's w203s are a headache.
Some of the draft sketches actually looked quite interesting, too bad the final car looked so boring. Then I doubt that Mercedes is still doing those shock/vibration tests these days anymore as a modern Mercedes car would break into pieces after 20 minutes.
I have a 1994 w202 c 220 which I have used for 10 years and there is no single rust anywhere in spite of the bad roads we drive on. even if this one dies no matter how wealthy I am I will own a 202 for life though I am considering w123, 124, 126, 204 and 90s s class. w202 for life. love from Nigeria
Hello, you don’t have rust because your version has an oil-based paint which doesn’t rust, while newer models (from 1995) had water-based paint for environmental reasons 😅 and this particular one was extremely rusty. I also have the 1994 version, although mine is 2.5 diesel
Probably the computer was stuffed with all kinds of I/O-cards to read out all the additional sensors. In the early 90th laptops were still rather bulky, with very low calculating power and hard-drive capacity. (upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Hard_drive_capacity_over_time.svg). USB was invented in 1996 so there was no simple way to connect periphery to notebooks. The RS232 and parallel ports were far too slow as an input for multiple sensors.
The following C Class was Mercedes recovery tactic. They did millions of miles of testing. They ensured it was well designed to last and probably over engineered it. My 2010 BlueEfficiency heralded their pinnacle when the torque delivered performance in this big saloon. Sadly the model shown rusted away and ruined Mercedes reputation. I don't believe Mercedes bettered the model I have. Dodgy face lifts ruined it. Then the current bubble car moved production away from Germany resulting in a plethora of faults and poor build quality. I was relieved to have my car back with its reassuring clunk of the doors after being loaned a new C Class that felt tinny and poorly finished inside. Volume reseller move by Mercedes to take on BMW dominance. Sadly their cars are now inadequate in spite of raves by motoring journalists. Such a shame.
@dropout0110 yeh I definitely think they made an effort to rebuild the quality back in. Mines done over 100k with no problems interior feels solid and well made still looks and drives like the day I got it. The problem is it will take a long time rebuild their reputation. I think the 2010-2018 Gen will age well.
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 lol, 100k with no problems, like that's something to be proud... Those w202 and 190 were doing well over 200k before you have to start looking at replacing components, not talking about the engine which was a TANK
@@seigma5340 I'm simply stating I've not had any problem at 100k what's your problem? I know there's many 2010 onwards E class taxis with 250k+ miles without Any major problems. I also have a 190E 2.0 owned since 2012 so I have a comparison with the new and the old. The 2010 onwards compare well they are good quality cars.
@@seigma5340 The 202 wasn't great either rust problem alongside crappy electronics plagued that Generation of Mercs. The rust and electrical seem sorted in the late 2000s
@@v.d.5242 потому что дороги у вам конченные и климат хуевый и ты сам наверно раз в месяц машину моешь 7 лет покатался на W202 C230 Kompressor Жалею что продал, машина мечта
Купил я ее в 2014 (15 лет машине было) уже ржавую, и о боги: в Германии! И живу в Германии! Что ещё про дороги скажешь? Большинство 202-х которые я вижу ржавеют точно в тех же местах где и мой. При этом в семье есть ещё 203 рестайл, малость царапан и мят предыдущим владельцем - ни капли ржавчины!
@@v.d.5242 У меня американец был, даже точки небыло ржавчины, пару раз притерся крылом, так и оставил, за 2 года так же ржавчины не появилось Щас японец, поцарапал через неделю уже была ржавчина На мерсе небыло 100% 2000 года была, может антикоразийная обоаботка была с завода может еще что, хз, но ржавчины не было
I guess this was the last nice MB before the w210 decline. Even tho, we can't ignore all the electronic shit that they put into this car compared to the previous 190, including those bad biodegradable wiring harness. It's just unfortunate that a car like this didn't received all the aftermarket attention that its predecessor (190) and bmw counterpart (E36) got.. Anyway, at 8:25 it talks about an autolocking electronic controlled differential, but as far as I know all the w202 that don't have ASR, have its predecessor technology (ETS), that's basically an open diff with brake control like the ASR
@@thecrazeecow1682 You have no idea what you are talking about. Those are projector type headlights. The W202 NEVER came with projector headlights. Plastic covers or not, these headlights are NOT what they have used for the production model. These headlights are 100% Hella projector headlights exactly like the 90's bmw headlights and are intentionally placed in these pre-production test vehicles. Production W202 has always been with GLASS headlights with beam pattern inprinted on the inside of the glass with clear reflectors around the bulb. There is no "plastic covers" and there are no projector headlights behind these imagined "plastic covers". That would be all. Edit: Just to make things clear, I'm not saying its a BMW, not at all, you can clearly see the single wiper of the W202 and other design cues. It's not a BMW, only the headlights are FROM a BMW and are there intentionally for these test vehicles.
@@thecrazeecow1682 You deleted your first commend, and edited your second one, removing the part that you claim these are the same oem headlights of the W202, just with removed plastic cover. Which is what is wrong. And you are commenting all over this video to different people about the same thing. So thats what I was clarifying, and what you clearly are not aware of. Those are actual BMW OEM Hella made headlights with parts N. 63121391321H used on these test cars and it was all intentional and part of consideration for projector headlights.
I swear if i could i would definitely merge honda civic 90s era w202 90s era 90s era nissan silvia all in one concept not future but still 90s original but different and beautiful styles and body lines shapes and damn wish i was rich then i would definitely do my own custom unique designs. I swear civics w202 silvias have such an amazing everything believe you me. I know what i am expressing and talking about i see potential in many ways many things in my own way wether its from something so small to something so big. People now a days are like yea that 2022 lol. Shout out to scotty,fupa,sammit,and to 911 custom world of rough world creator of such fucking awesome amazing skill when it comes to wides bodys on 911, much love and god bless. 🚬 and cocacola = 😊. #beer for me lol. Merry Christmas to all.
My first car back in high school!! Underrated, cheaper to maintain than newer Benz cars, and still luxurious and high class!
My first car as well still have it !!
I still have it today in same good work condition. Weekend Car. My daily is w212 facelift.
Such a nice, well engineered car - and then they forgot to rust protect it …
Mine started rusting after 23 years... I think it's better than average.
korencek Nah my W124 is better the W202 was the start of the end
@@akishot6735 Early w202's are fine. Things went south when they switched to water based paint for environmental reasons. i have a 1990 300E and a 1993 C200D. excellent cars.
Mine has 0% rust. 70k original miles. Perfect car. Runs like a dream.
@TiltVHS that's because the water comes down the window rubber and into the door, where it can't escape. I had a 1995 c-class diesel for over 5 years. It was a great car, now I have a w123 & w124.
Настоящая легенда достойная уважения, сам владелец такого Elegance 1995 г. 1,8 -это любовь на всю жизнь !!!!!!
I have a 1995 c200 , other than the transmission gave up the ghost due to previous owner lack of care , so far the only complain i have is the left door cable is rattling like mad and drives me crazy and small thin plastic parts turns brittle and need extra care when knocking them around.
The car is smooth , fuel efficient , the aircon is freezing cold and the handling is superb. I love this car and cant stop being proud for owning it.
My dad has w202 220 Cdi 1998 with 730 000 kilometers and still runs good as first time. Built to last. :D
I have a 1998 c200 and it's done 124k miles.. Still going strong and everything works. Last of the old skool mercedes benz
I did not know this car has been engineered this good; thank you for sharing this clip with us.
A world apart from the design philosophies of Mercedes today: crass, blingy, mass market cars with a ludicrously large model line up to cover every market segment. No better quality than any other manufacturer, simply trading on that badge and their past reputation. What happened to their 'traditional values' mentioned in this video?!
Mercedes Benz isn't what it used to be, but they could be a lot worse.
They simply discovered the secret: thanks to the badge, they can charge the same (or even more) while doing a lot less effort.
Lexus is what happened to them. 1990 Ls-400 change their world; in order to stay competitive Mercedes had to change their ways.
They learned the crass, blingy, mass market part from Chrysler.
As far as the line-up is concerned, Audi, BMW & Volvo all had to diversify. If MB had kept making a few sedans of various sizes forever, they'd have gone bust long ago.
0:44 wow that concept looks really stunning!
Yeah. Even for today
It looks like SAAB
Basically clk 4 door
Imagine a “C202” on the road like this, it would be fantastic
My '94 C250D is in very good condition. It has 256kkm on the clock. 23 years in our family. Now I’m doing what’s necessary to keep it as good as possible.
I have C200 w202 model 1996 and it is running with no problems and all parts are functioning good
Louy Toghouj i have a 1995 w202 c280, most reliable vehicle ever, purchased for 1k, an the things paid me about 3k. and still reliable.
This was the last time Mercedes had the best reliability
I can truly confirm that, my dad had w201, w202, and w203. I've got the 1995 w202 manual c200, and it is indestructible, low Maintainance car, the early 2000's w203s are a headache.
@Patrick Jensen best one, with proper fuel injection and a 5 speed auto
Самый удачный Mercedes - W124 ! Владею три года (1986 года), до этого был W140 и W201. 👍😎
Я на 202 уже 6 лет катаю и обновлять машину не хочу!
@@opex97, привет. Красавчиk ! 👍😊 Здравия тебе и твоим близким.
The last great Mercedes; the W202 Class C, in special the 250 TD and CDI. Perfect machine.
Agree.
The w203 it's the proof of decay
I have a 250td ‘99 model with 293k kilometer love the engine and the car more and more everyday
Modern Mercedes, looking like electric shavers. (SinCity)
this car is a legend!!!
Timeless beauty
Some of the draft sketches actually looked quite interesting, too bad the final car looked so boring. Then I doubt that Mercedes is still doing those shock/vibration tests these days anymore as a modern Mercedes car would break into pieces after 20 minutes.
Probably not because they wouldn't be the most profitable car company in the world otherwise.
I have a 1994 w202 c 220 which I have used for 10 years and there is no single rust anywhere in spite of the bad roads we drive on. even if this one dies no matter how wealthy I am I will own a 202 for life though I am considering w123, 124, 126, 204 and 90s s class. w202 for life. love from Nigeria
Hello, you don’t have rust because your version has an oil-based paint which doesn’t rust, while newer models (from 1995) had water-based paint for environmental reasons 😅 and this particular one was extremely rusty. I also have the 1994 version, although mine is 2.5 diesel
@@MrBunio2012 thanks for this information I always observed my version was built solidly. Now I see why my mechanic keeps telling never to sell mine.
Proud owner of a 1998 w202 c180 with 55000 on the clock WITH NO RUST
15:57 amazing for 1993 to have this kind of animations.
korencek not for Mercedes common since the mid 80s and the release of the superior W201 and W124
I owned a 94 plate C220 and It was a great car. I really liked owning and driving it.
FAIRLY: MY C 220D WAS IN 9 YEARs WITHOUT PROBLEMS, ONLY TWO LITTLE THINGS IN THE SUBORDINARY SRVICE. THIS IS EXCELENT, TOO.
Not half as well built as the 190. Those things were like tanks.
At 6:01, the headlight look similar to the bmw.
Pretty sure that wasn't an accident!
IT has 5series lamps as to divert attention from the model when spotted
They make it look like an e34. Still dig the 4 Eyed look
I have the station wagon(1998) of this car. Such a joy to have, and im lucky enough to have a really rustless car
Me too, an 180 sedan and a 250 td station wagon! Great cars!!
0:51 The front of the car in the sketch looks like a CL that came out like ten years after this C Class! :o
It looks like an S Class W220
They made some of those prototypes look like a BMW E34 at the front! lol
*SNEAK 100*
Yeah I think that was a disguise on the test tracks
James May on the voice over?
No.
It must be him.
@@PWN3DU01 Sounds very dull and boring it's not Him. lol
God it does sound like him.
I was thinking the same thing
The best car I ever have
I got w202 c180, made in 2000, near 300k on the clock, with no rust.
Cars like these are very common here in Azerbaijan :)
5:53 laptop 😅
Clearly they didn't focus on rust protection, other than that the car is stunningly reliable (M111 engine)
This is from before the switch to water based paints 4 or 5 years later, no premature rust issues on these first ones.
Mercedes is the best cars ever made.
Beautiful video ! I have 2 w202. I love that car !
Me too!!
Не знаю что они говорят, но я езжу на такой ж машине w202 1999 г.в вообще класс не ЛОМАЕТСЯ абсолютно 👍немцам роспект
I have this same model W202 C220 Japanese recond. It is very reliable and don't has electronic problem like its younger brothers
Funny how they use BMW headlights for the car class test mules, and at 6:27 they try to mimic the look of a Volvo grill at the front.
The first Mercedes After the 190 w202 and the E-klasse w124. With quality problems electronis, rust etc
На испытаниях передние фары от bmw e34 установили!))))))) Чтобы все думали что это новая модель bmw!?))))))
Would be nice to find a vid on W210 development. Thanks for posting.
Great video!
5:52 they carried a Desktop computer with them inside the cqr 😃😀😀 they didn't have a laptop.
Probably the computer was stuffed with all kinds of I/O-cards to read out all the additional sensors. In the early 90th laptops were still rather bulky, with very low calculating power and hard-drive capacity. (upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Hard_drive_capacity_over_time.svg). USB was invented in 1996 so there was no simple way to connect periphery to notebooks. The RS232 and parallel ports were far too slow as an input for multiple sensors.
This c class was one of the most reliable Mercedes ever built…maybe only next to the smiling Benz
I have a 1995 C180 Elegance and it is running very strong.
I drove one for a while, was a nice car I thought. At least not as rusty as the w210 I had afterwards
@Matthew Dawood Khaghani in terms of rust? Has to be top 5
The following C Class was Mercedes recovery tactic. They did millions of miles of testing. They ensured it was well designed to last and probably over engineered it. My 2010 BlueEfficiency heralded their pinnacle when the torque delivered performance in this big saloon. Sadly the model shown rusted away and ruined Mercedes reputation. I don't believe Mercedes bettered the model I have. Dodgy face lifts ruined it. Then the current bubble car moved production away from Germany resulting in a plethora of faults and poor build quality. I was relieved to have my car back with its reassuring clunk of the doors after being loaned a new C Class that felt tinny and poorly finished inside. Volume reseller move by Mercedes to take on BMW dominance. Sadly their cars are now inadequate in spite of raves by motoring journalists. Such a shame.
I have 2010 E class and I had a 190e and I think the 10 E class is a well made car that has been reliable so far
@dropout0110 yeh I definitely think they made an effort to rebuild the quality back in. Mines done over 100k with no problems interior feels solid and well made still looks and drives like the day I got it. The problem is it will take a long time rebuild their reputation. I think the 2010-2018 Gen will age well.
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 lol, 100k with no problems, like that's something to be proud... Those w202 and 190 were doing well over 200k before you have to start looking at replacing components, not talking about the engine which was a TANK
@@seigma5340 I'm simply stating I've not had any problem at 100k what's your problem? I know there's many 2010 onwards E class taxis with 250k+ miles without Any major problems. I also have a 190E 2.0 owned since 2012 so I have a comparison with the new and the old. The 2010 onwards compare well they are good quality cars.
@@seigma5340 The 202 wasn't great either rust problem alongside crappy electronics plagued that Generation of Mercs. The rust and electrical seem sorted in the late 2000s
I love that car !
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Rindu mobil Mercy jaman majapahit
Its remarkable how much tech went into it for me to get the c180 for 500€ last gear. Drives from point a to be just fine and has AC
Классный фильм о легенде! 😉👍
Если бы не ржавел. Продаю свой только из за ржавчины, а так неубиваемая машина!
@@v.d.5242 потому что дороги у вам конченные и климат хуевый и ты сам наверно раз в месяц машину моешь
7 лет покатался на W202 C230 Kompressor
Жалею что продал, машина мечта
Купил я ее в 2014 (15 лет машине было) уже ржавую, и о боги: в Германии! И живу в Германии! Что ещё про дороги скажешь? Большинство 202-х которые я вижу ржавеют точно в тех же местах где и мой. При этом в семье есть ещё 203 рестайл, малость царапан и мят предыдущим владельцем - ни капли ржавчины!
@@v.d.5242
У меня американец был, даже точки небыло ржавчины, пару раз притерся крылом, так и оставил, за 2 года так же ржавчины не появилось
Щас японец, поцарапал через неделю уже была ржавчина
На мерсе небыло 100% 2000 года была, может антикоразийная обоаботка была с завода может еще что, хз, но ржавчины не было
@@v.d.5242 Далбен вложи денег в краску, вуаля не будет ржавет
I love this channel. Can you please upload a BMW similar video, thank you
No
@@Rosbergen80 dik
@@KevinGonzalez-jf9ic short
@@Rosbergen80 thicc
Everything was perfect except for the rustproofing!!!!!!!
Würde man nicht denken wie viel Arbeit da reingesteckt wurde
I wonder how many of these processes are still used in modern car development and production
Biodegradable wiring harness.
Food for raccoons.
Never a problem in asia. Only minor rust under
Every single car company had this issue at some point. Even Toyota isn't immune.
And no problems once you switch to a conventional wiring harness 🤷
The old ones have biodegradable wiring, from 98 to 2000 it changed
I love my C230 K 173,000 miles no leaks well loved and best of all it’s better than a Tesla in my world.
15:00 that guy looks like Hitler xD
I guess this was the last nice MB before the w210 decline. Even tho, we can't ignore all the electronic shit that they put into this car compared to the previous 190, including those bad biodegradable wiring harness. It's just unfortunate that a car like this didn't received all the aftermarket attention that its predecessor (190) and bmw counterpart (E36) got..
Anyway, at 8:25 it talks about an autolocking electronic controlled differential, but as far as I know all the w202 that don't have ASR, have its predecessor technology (ETS), that's basically an open diff with brake control like the ASR
ASR was an option not standard on the early models.
@@19tuureluur86 and I said that w202s without ASR, have ETS. Though I'm not sure about what year the ETS was introduced, my '96 has ETS
I read once this was the last Merc to have the dash cut for each car's spec & options (no blanking switches).
Im not letting go of my 1997 W202 C200. 317473 km and still going.🇿🇦
I have a c250td ‘99 with 293k km and love the girl 🇿🇦
99' with 500k, still better than most new cars
Good video
Call me crazy but I really like those four eyed, Bently looking headlights those test mules had.
0:44 looks like a 2002 Subaru Legacy Sedan back design
1997 c280 sport v6 owner.il be buried in it.you can have the keys when you claw them from my dead hands
Super beautiful
When man used to build stuff the proper way.
Sounds like James may??
Love this!! Mmmmm…. voluptuous engine 😅
Sounds like James May
think it chris goffey not sure tho
I be seeing low milage ones with rust....it's sad
need this mercedes back
KLASS AUTOMOBILE 🖒🖒🖒
2:33 omagat w201 n w202 comparasion
2:34
Where will I get parts for c180 1995
Abbosey okine
Looks like they have really thought about safety. But it only has two NCAP stars?
Boas podem informar como ajustar travão de mão do mercedes w202 98 no
Con razon duran tanto
Buenas quisiera saber cómo funciona el marcador de la gasolina de ese modelo en espanol
Throse pre construction cars with BMW E34 headlights look so weird
I have to ask- where do you find these?
At my house
Your mum
Тогда авто разрабатывали инженеры высокое качество надёжность легендарный авто
Bmw elipsoide (smileys) headlights on the test cars. And possibly bmw ti tail lights
THE BEST OR NOTHING...
Euroncap results are very poor despite a lot of security studies
Гарабах Азербайжан🇦🇿
👍👍👍
THEN WHY DO THE FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARM BUSHINGS LAST LITERALLY FIVE MINUTES
My father got the 2.3 TD he hit a dog at 100kmh he drived until home the engine didn't give any problems
There is no Diesel with 2.3l. Either 2.2l or 2.5l.
both 190 and first C-class 1993-2000 were wonderful cars. One thing isn't wonderful though: shit 56 ads that I had to skip or watch during this video
Yec
JUST HAVE HAD A 190E and D (W201), WAS MUCH BETTER THAN THE W202 (HAVE HAD 2). OKAY, THE 202 HAVE MORE ELEGANCE, BUT TE 201 HAVE QUALITY AND LONGLIFE.
W202💪👍
I love w202 . 2020
what's up with the BMW at 6:00?
@@thecrazeecow1682 no they are not. They are 100% BMW headlights
@@thecrazeecow1682
You have no idea what you are talking about. Those are projector type headlights. The W202 NEVER came with projector headlights. Plastic covers or not, these headlights are NOT what they have used for the production model.
These headlights are 100% Hella projector headlights exactly like the 90's bmw headlights and are intentionally placed in these pre-production test vehicles.
Production W202 has always been with GLASS headlights with beam pattern inprinted on the inside of the glass with clear reflectors around the bulb. There is no "plastic covers" and there are no projector headlights behind these imagined "plastic covers".
That would be all.
Edit: Just to make things clear, I'm not saying its a BMW, not at all, you can clearly see the single wiper of the W202 and other design cues. It's not a BMW, only the headlights are FROM a BMW and are there intentionally for these test vehicles.
@@thecrazeecow1682 You deleted your first commend, and edited your second one, removing the part that you claim these are the same oem headlights of the W202, just with removed plastic cover. Which is what is wrong. And you are commenting all over this video to different people about the same thing. So thats what I was clarifying, and what you clearly are not aware of.
Those are actual BMW OEM Hella made headlights with parts N. 63121391321H used on these test cars and it was all intentional and part of consideration for projector headlights.
Frank White well it's too late for me to care anymore now. I deleted all my comments so you'll stop complaining.
And I suppose 6:49 is a Volvo? They’re just cosmetic
Low volume hard to listen !
Bmw 3 series disguise. So no one would have stolen it hahah
W202👍💟
A time when a car was a car
MERSEDES 👍👍👍👍👍
I swear if i could i would definitely merge honda civic 90s era w202 90s era 90s era nissan silvia all in one concept not future but still 90s original but different and beautiful styles and body lines shapes and damn wish i was rich then i would definitely do my own custom unique designs. I swear civics w202 silvias have such an amazing everything believe you me.
I know what i am expressing and talking about i see potential in many ways many things in my own way wether its from something so small to something so big. People now a days are like yea that 2022 lol. Shout out to scotty,fupa,sammit,and to 911 custom world of rough world creator of such fucking awesome amazing skill when it comes to wides bodys on 911, much love and god bless.
🚬 and cocacola = 😊.
#beer for me lol.
Merry Christmas to all.
❤️❤️❤️