Four V60 Pour-Over Filters To The Test
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2022
- Does the paper filter you pick when brewing with a pour-over matter? In this video, I brew with 4 paper filters side-by-side to show the differences they have and how you can use those differences to your advantage.
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Right now I feel like im still trying to master my pouring technique and understanding of how messing with variables changes taste, so I'm just keeping things consistent and using the Hario ones every time. Once I'm more comfortable with pourovers in general though, this looks like a fun next step to mess around with!
Sticking to one filter when one is trying to master a brewing device is for sure the way to go. Once you start hitting the same brew times through consistency and repetition can you start tossing in these change in variables to reliably get a specific change in your brew!
I know this is hard to nail down, but I believe the rumors are true: The Cafec Abaca IS the original Japanese-made pre-tab Hario V60 filter from before the tab wars, because Cafec Abaca is the product that Hario rebrands.
I have seen a lot of people comparing them online, including using microscopes to view the fiber texture, comparing the crimp margins, etc. What most of these fail to recognize is that manufacturing a natural product will mean that there is always variance from batch to batch. Two batches of Abaca, manufactured at different times, will not be perfectly consistent. Also, timing drawdown is also not consistent. You can make two batches with the same beans/grind, with the same filter, and get slightly differing draw-downs. If your margin is just a few seconds, for all practical purposes, that is the same drawdown time.
What I can say for certain: The texture of the filters, inside and out, on average, is indistinguishable. The paper has the same whitepoint (I work in color print). The punch-out die is identical: same dimensions. Same corner radius. Same crimp margin. I still have boxes of the old style Harios. Out of the packaging, there is no way I could tell them apart. The drawdown time, on average, is the same. They brew the same for me.
Cheers, I really appreciate the in-depth insight on the OG non-tabbed filters and how they probably are the same papers as the Cafec Abaca filters! If they were more easily available in North America, I would for sure be picking up more of them for my pour-overs.
@@brewinghabits FYI - Cafec Abacas are readily available on Amazon in the US for around $12 per 100.
@@mwdiers niceee, sadly enough I'm a tad north up in Canada and they go for 38CAD/100 filters here, which which is a total rip-off haha
Now that I changed Brewing Habits to cover more topics than just coffee, you probably expected me to begin with some non-coffee content... Well jokes on you, I still love coffee and have quite a few caffeinated videos up my sleeve that I want to make haha :D
Yet again, thanks to Gary for providing me with more obscure V60 filters to test
I'm glad to be pranked in this way haha
First of all glad to see you're back after a long hiatus. 2ndly the timing on this couldn't be any better I've just started working through a pack of these and experienced clogging for the first time on the t-92. My favouirte so far are the Kono papers still low key and widely available.
Thanks! The T-92 really are such an outlier filter when in comparison to the other three so I'm glad I hopefully pinpointed the problem for ya! I've never tried the Kino papers, would have to give em a whirl sometime ✨✨
My daily driver are filters from Daiso. They're virgin pulp, oxygen bleached, made in Japan, and cost $1.50 a pack (90 count). They're trapezoid though. I've gone back to my first dripper (Melita) because I've been getting nice results from it with lighter roasts.
Niceee, I had to Google the filter type as I've never heard of em before. Seems like a solid choice if you can get your hands on them 👍👍
Been using Cafec 102 and Cafec medium dark in my StaggX.
I was just talking to my friend about coffee filters today because she was struggling with her coffee tasting different and noted that she had changed her filter recently. I knew different filters changed your brew, but didn't realize they could so dramatically change your brewtime! Seeing the side by side testing was super helpful and clear. I use the standard tabbed v60 filters but now I'm curious to grab some of the ones you showed here! Thanks for the breakdown :)
Tabbed users unite! It really is one of those variables one doesn't even consider as a variable to change. However, if you brew with the same brewing recipe and are super familiar with it, people like your friend will notice any anomalies that arise. Did she end up tweaking other variables in the brewing recipe to compensate for the change in brew time, hunt down the old filters she used to brew with or perhaps a totally different solution?!
@@brewinghabits She kept with the filters she had; she noted that her coffee now suddenly tasted "weaker" since switching. Her first strat was to adjust the amount of coffee used but that didn't seem to be working well. After discussing it (and me having the knowledge gained from this video) she tightened the grind a smidge and that worked much better! So thank you!
@@ryjoy niceeee, glad to hear that she managed to fix her brewing issue 👍👍👍
I've worked with 5 different filter papers so far : Hario, Chemex, Abaca+, T-83, T90, and T-92. I hated T-92, as it took me over +5 minutes to complete using a Flower Dripper. But I do love T-90. As it is in the range and gives me more flexibility to mess around with the brew techniques and different grind sizes. I believe as the T-83 is really fast, is suitable for darker roast coffee
I've trialed a bunch, focused more on taste than draw down time since there are so many factors (grind size, bean selection, etc). My favorite go to for v60 01 using Osmotic Flow is definitely the Cafec T-90 (I use a lot of medium roasts). Second best for me is the Japanese 'tabbed' Hario v60 filters. If I recall all those Reddit v60 Hario 'tab wars', it was more than just the tab vs. no tab, but also the ones produced in Japan vs those not...or maybe it was from a different factory location in Japan? I forget, but all I remember was that for Hario, I wanted the Japanese-produced, tabbed, bleached filters that came in the cellophane wrap. The ones produced in cardboard boxes in larger counts were the evil ones. I think. Lol, luckily I liked the Cafec T-90 better anyway, it makes life easier!
Haha yea instead of crossing your fingers and hopi g to not get the evil tabbed Hario ones, it's much easier just to get a very standardized one like the T-90 to keep the consistency on point! I would probably do something similar as you but sadly enough I can't easily get the Cafec filters here in Toronto as I would probably be paying massive premium for it to be shipped rawr.
So Hario filter roulette it is xD
@@brewinghabits It's always greener on the other side. Here in the States I have a very hard time getting the Aquacode coffee water packets (I like that water treatment best). I have to order those from Canada and with the shipping costs it only makes sense when I bundle it with something else, so I usually just go with the easier Third Wave option.
I currently using Hario filter, the 40 sheet version that came with paper box (the flow a little bit faster than the version with the tab) for lighter roasted coffee and Cafec abaca for darker roasted one (brewing with osmotic flow based on your video) :-D
Niceee, lots of variation here! Now that I think of it, I wish the paper filters would mention their brewing speeds instead of saying what technique or roast level they are for. I use the filters for all types of beans and techniques as it's mostly a way to manipulate brew time!
@Brewing Habits That's a good idea. Adding the info about brewing time (or maybe recommended brewing time) would be very helpful to tweaking another variable like grind size and water temperature to get the desired result :D
What a nice video! I just got a few new filters, eager to test them out tomorrow :) Hopefully some of them will help me when the draw time of my V60!
Have you ever tried the origami filters or the Abaca+ filters from Cafec?
I have not tried the origami filters, they are super expensive to get your hands on here in Canada 😭 Let me know how the filters end up treatin' ya!
Nice and short! liked the video. I've always been using Cafec abaca filters, but sometimes I feel it gives me a slightly under extracted cup, and when I try to fix it by going finer on the grinder, it becomes a bit bitter and over extracted, so I'm thinking to try the Hario filter since it makes more brew time. What do you think?
Before trying a filter swap, perhaps try some other variables to increase extraction like a higher brewing ratio, hotter water temp or pulse pour (to increase brew time).
The filters just change the flow rate (faster = less extraction / slower = more extraction) and I think a filter tweak is something like a last resort when using a bean that is for example super fast flowing bean or specific techniques like the Osmotic Flow.
It might also just be that your balance is off. Try grinding finer, then also lowering the brewing temperature. Changing two variables at the same time keeps extraction balanced but produces a totally different cup of coffee!
@@brewinghabits I use the latest James Hoffman's method "5 pours" but I use 20g of beans instead of 15 and brewing ratio is 1:16.6
And for temperature, I just wait 30-60secs after boiling. But I guess you're right I should play more with the variables, I'll try go finer + lower brewing temp, and next, maybe just lower brewing ratio.
Appreciate the feedback.
Cafec T83 for dark roast
So... what coffees for which filters? =) using Abaca
I just got my first Hario v60 brewer. What filter do you recommend? I like very clean somewhat acidic coffees
I think all paper filters create the same qualities in a cup of coffee, the main difference is that their brewing time is different, which leads to a change in extraction.
As for filter types, instead of exploring different paper filters, I recommend getting any paper filter (no specific ones in mind, whatever you can get your hands on!), then a metal and fabric filter. This will give you three different cups of coffee and show much more depth compared to playing around with different paper filter types!
I am using hario 02 filters ,not those u show,but those that pressed looking ,anyway everyone show 3min brew time while mine is 5+/- minutes 😢
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