Me too, I can't wait. I played the demo on ps5, I was shocked how bad the gfx looked in perf mode. Apparently, it's hugely improved on ps5 pro, but I rather play on pc for better graphics + better framerate. I got spoiled with games with a fps of over 100 on pc.
I just finished my first hard mode play through and I enjoyed it. Especially once you learn how to use the synergy skills to avoid attacks, and position your party.
I wait for the pc version for hard mode. But isnt this basically turnbased with positioning and synergy in between? Otherwise the atb of the party doesnt really fill.
@@life0093 I had the feeling that the attck button is nearly counter-productiv. So I was right, ATB is mostly generated through defense and synergy skills.
Best since 2001, the one which became my 2nd fave game this year because of Rebirth 😍 (In other words Rebirth is my fave game of all time. And those who know, -they know which FF released 01)
I know the unused party members can sometimes assist from the outside but what the heck did Yuffie just do there? I don't recall seeing them ever come into melee range.
A significant portion the market moved to PC over the years and thankfully it’s putting pressure on these companies to release PC ports. It took a. Lot of patience because I switched right before this game came out and now I get to play it with high framerate and graphics.
Often, but not always. Switching to another character is actually a valid tactic to avoid damage, because if you have the right materia setup then the AI is pretty good at dodging and perfect blocking
idk, it's almost the same but i would rather FFXII combat. i prefer "intelligent" party members than being able to spam basic attack and a stagger meter.
Personally I prefer the FF7 remake/rebirth combat system over FF12's. My main issue with 12's system was, the better you undertood it, the less you had to actually play. Or at least that was my experience with it. I ended up "programming" all the characters for the most common scenarios and just hit fast forward. At least with 7r/r's system I am in control. Hell, to get the combat working as efficiently as I want it to, I HAVE to be in control and regularly switch characters.
FFXII is a totally different game. That was more JRPG and this is 90% action game. FFXII is one of my favorites, but I'm glad they tried something different
I started it yesterday and what can I say! Everything is so beautiful and stunning😭 would you mind telling me the weapons your Cloud and Aerith using? Thank you🙏🏻🙏🏻
The visual is gorgeous, but how does that make combat amazing? I don't see much challenge you just smashed you buttons and that rhino just died without any threats to your team
Each character specialized in a certain area. Aerith subdued the hippo, Tifa staggered it, and Cloud did a ton of damage. So there was some strategy to it even though it didn’t look that way.
This is way harder than it looks. You can only do this if you know how to properly pressure and stagger the enemy, and I imagine they were playing on normal and not dynamic.
It's not the best gameplay, but if you look up some videos of people doing Hard mode challenges you'll see a lot of tactics. Using Iron Defense to teleport party members away from unblockable attacks. Stagger, then casting Stop to FREEZE the stagger meter while support characters raise the Stagger multiplier to 300% so that Cloud's execution ability hits for 80k damage. It's like a single player MMORPG with every class working together.
94 hours and beat it. I'm not gonna lie the instakill that some of the enemies have truly ruined the experience. And who needs 28 mini games. Solid 8 out of 10
Chained Echoes was a damn good jrpg. It really felt like a small resurgence back to the old days. But Rebirth transported me back to 8 years old. Fucking game is easily a 10/10 and my personal GOTY. And I only thought FF7 Remake was only ok.
@@Rando1481 When your 2 of your 3 main fighter is "Beaten", Your other party will occasionally help you and you can even do attacks with them but you cant control them
People complain it's bad but can't point out the real issue. Idk about Rebirth, but in Remake the dodge mechanic is completely useless because you have no Iframes and enemies have insane tracking, especially their grabs. Some players suggest that blocking is the main way of playing. Then what is the point of dodging, if you can't dodge anything properly and are forced to take damage through blocking?
I played Remake to 100% including Weiss the true final boss. You can definitely dodge grabs. In Rebirth you can block grabs with perfect block timing, and you have i-frames through synergy skills and abilities like Tifa's Focused Strike and Yuffie's Brumal Form
Pretty unique mix of action and strategy like Dragon Age (that unfortunately DA:V got rid of most of them), but I find enemies and openworld are boring
The original openworld also boring too, the enemies is just like the rest of any rpgs games which is a punching bag. And only when you fight elite boss it look hard enough.
@@igm1571I think enemies are much more than bags here. There are a lot of them with unique perks so you have to think how to deal with them rather than smash attack buttons. Like bombs, jokers or when they have dispel and return back your attacks. It’s hard to complete legendary bouts with regular enemies - not only with elite ones
Square Enix is tanking hard, they lost 2 billion dollars since ff16 release, they can't decide which style to take and FF has a huge identity crisis they could go bankrupt if this keeps up. Capcom managed to save resident evil and make it thrive, Square Enix needs to listen to the fans, I agree also, I liked ff16 but it gets repetitive the button mashing, i love using m Aeirtih in ff7 and have the party members helping. Hopefully they can salvage and change FF direction before the game collapses
Cant wait til this drops on PC in a month. I couldnt finish the PS5 version it was so poorly optimized. Performance mode was sub-HD and graphics mode ran at 30. Both unacceptable in 2024 on whats supposed to be (but really is anything but) a "next gen" console
Haven't played rebirth yet but have played both arise and remake. I feel like tales wants you to only play one way whereas remake's combat gives the player more freedom. Tales of arise enemies turned into damage sponges at the end of the game and the only way to give good damage was to keep combo'ing and switching to continue the combos, after about 40 hours or so, it felt old. Bosses in the game do not get staggered so all you can really do against them is hit and run. I'd say the remake series is pretty superior to whatever tales of has made but that's my opinion
@@Crimsongambit hahaha what? The combat in "Tales of" is much more diverse, with many more skills and bigger combos. In Action JRPG, there is no better gameplay than "Tales of", 100% guaranteed.
@@petepeeboy1106 You can say that for "tales of" but this remake is not much better cuz you have less Skill/combos to do. People nowadays say these things, especially FF fan boys because normally FF games have an excellent visual appearance. But the graphical appearance and gameplay are completely different things.
Comparing Rebirth to FFX is like comparing checkers to chess. In Rebirth,each character is unique. In FFX you can max out every character's stats, then all characters become carbon copies of each other. In Rebirth, every character is VERY unique throughout the entire game.
looks boring af to be honest why would you play this game ? is like playing on super easy no struggle at all like having cheats there is no fun in no challenge
Determining whether a game’s combat/gameplay is good purely through a visual video is a little ludicrous. It’s an on hands experience, this isn’t just for Rebirth either but any game. Second to actually playing would be someone describing combat while using visuals.
@ferrust9493 change to easy mode, remove all support items. Only spam the square and triangle button, no abilities usage. See if you can pass the main game with that, your opinion also trash when compairing two different combat mechanics!
@@Crimsongambitboth games are amazing! Only those with a tiny brain do stuff like compairing something! Oh and if you don't have anything to refute my comment! Then your comment also means nothing!
I wouldn't really call FF7 remake style of combat amazing from an action rpg lens. I don't think the devs were really trying to make in depth action rpg combat. So it ended up being a combat system where you don't have to learn and think that much, while having a bit of turn based aspects as well. It's similar to FF15. So I could see how Remake/Rebirth combat could be fun for the casual sort, but when comparing it to truely action rpg based games, it's unremarkable.
I wonder if Asians will ever advance and get out of making games where the weapon is 10 times larger then the character and that senseless slashing all over the screen, effects everywhere, moaning, numbers jumping all around....
Perfect blend of classic and modern final fantasy. This is the way forward for modern JRPGs.
The combat is insanely fun and fluid. I’m playing through it for the first time right now and I can’t get enough. 30 hours in and only on chapter 9.
It’d be better if you could jump and do aerial combat
Im 92 hours in and on chapter 12
You can...@@buttertoast1146
@@buttertoast1146 You can with Cloud, Tifa and Yuffie. They can even stay in the air forever
I'm 220 hours in and I haven't finished the legendary boss fights. This game has a crazy amount of content!
combat music gets me hype! Best JRPG I've ever played!
@@abdullahpekozer the music is soooooo good
Can't wait for next month to play it on PC. Looks like an amazing mix of classic JRPG and the system they used in FFXV
I played it on PS5 at launch, it is basically remake with a lot of improvements, it's the perfect combat system
Did you play Remake?
Me too, I can't wait. I played the demo on ps5, I was shocked how bad the gfx looked in perf mode. Apparently, it's hugely improved on ps5 pro, but I rather play on pc for better graphics + better framerate. I got spoiled with games with a fps of over 100 on pc.
Soo confused why this had low sales
@dametreuspppp8734 wasn't low sales, only below expectations
Not sure why people down played this game ..this is how a real AAA game is made....with so much content..you will get your money's worth plus some...
because the combat is a cancer. absolute hate it to the point i cant stand.
@@ronignino Combat is amazing...not sure what game you played but wasn't Rebirth/Remake cause both games are a chef's kiss.
@@jaydeebow6431 combat is not amazing . It's annoying asf. Most people hate ffvii combat.
@@ronignino sounds like a skill issue and a loser
@@ronigninobrainrot you have ❤
Just finished Remake starting Rebirth today and my god I'm loving them so far.
I just finished my first hard mode play through and I enjoyed it. Especially once you learn how to use the synergy skills to avoid attacks, and position your party.
I wait for the pc version for hard mode.
But isnt this basically turnbased with positioning and synergy in between?
Otherwise the atb of the party doesnt really fill.
@ It’s a hybrid of both. A big emphasis in hard mode ATB management. And of course perfect blocking or precision defense.
@@life0093 I had the feeling that the attck button is nearly counter-productiv.
So I was right, ATB is mostly generated through defense and synergy skills.
@@IWantBasterds I've finished hard mode. It was definitely not turn based, I spent very little time in the slow-motion menu.
I’m days away from the plat. Best FF In years
"Best FF in years" So true!!!
@ i hit a wall stuck on one of the hard challenges. F this game ahahaha
Good luck. Some of those VR battles are wild. Took me hours of losing over and over again.
@ I’m stuck on the seventh seal
Best since 2001, the one which became my 2nd fave game this year because of Rebirth 😍
(In other words Rebirth is my fave game of all time. And those who know, -they know which FF released 01)
I agree. This is the definitive modern-style gameplay in the FF series. I lvoe that you are able to control everybody and everyone has a unique style.
I know the unused party members can sometimes assist from the outside but what the heck did Yuffie just do there? I don't recall seeing them ever come into melee range.
I was wondering the same thing
finished it on ps5 , cant wait to beat this next year on pc.
Far and away my favorite combat system in any real time action game.
A significant portion the market moved to PC over the years and thankfully it’s putting pressure on these companies to release PC ports. It took a. Lot of patience because I switched right before this game came out and now I get to play it with high framerate and graphics.
Wait, enemies don't instantly switch to attacking the character you're currently controlling in Rebirth?
@@conduit64 they do usually
Often, but not always. Switching to another character is actually a valid tactic to avoid damage, because if you have the right materia setup then the AI is pretty good at dodging and perfect blocking
I would love a combat system like this in an utopian FFX Remake
Running through remake on pc to prep for rebirth. So hype
They should add more shortcuts. I dont like having to use the menu because you can only shortcut 4 moves.
Yeah I agree
@@Kane-uj8qsthere are only 4 buttons for the shortcuts...
The TRUE GOTY
They need to make a brand new Final Fantasy with this combat system.
tell me they added more battle music
@@supersai4198 yup a lot more
they added more battle music
Of course they did man :)))))
Like they didn't have much in Remake...
idk, it's almost the same but i would rather FFXII combat. i prefer "intelligent" party members than being able to spam basic attack and a stagger meter.
You can switch chatacters and control them however you like so they won’t only spam basic attacks.
Personally I prefer the FF7 remake/rebirth combat system over FF12's. My main issue with 12's system was, the better you undertood it, the less you had to actually play. Or at least that was my experience with it. I ended up "programming" all the characters for the most common scenarios and just hit fast forward.
At least with 7r/r's system I am in control. Hell, to get the combat working as efficiently as I want it to, I HAVE to be in control and regularly switch characters.
FFXII is a totally different game. That was more JRPG and this is 90% action game.
FFXII is one of my favorites, but I'm glad they tried something different
Please please please Square, make this game run smooth on the Steam Deck
I started it yesterday and what can I say! Everything is so beautiful and stunning😭 would you mind telling me the weapons your Cloud and Aerith using? Thank you🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@forbiddenf369 it's the crystal sword for cloud and i think that's the ceremonial staff for aerith. Have fun!
The visual is gorgeous, but how does that make combat amazing? I don't see much challenge you just smashed you buttons and that rhino just died without any threats to your team
Each character specialized in a certain area. Aerith subdued the hippo, Tifa staggered it, and Cloud did a ton of damage. So there was some strategy to it even though it didn’t look that way.
This is way harder than it looks. You can only do this if you know how to properly pressure and stagger the enemy, and I imagine they were playing on normal and not dynamic.
It's not the best gameplay, but if you look up some videos of people doing Hard mode challenges you'll see a lot of tactics. Using Iron Defense to teleport party members away from unblockable attacks. Stagger, then casting Stop to FREEZE the stagger meter while support characters raise the Stagger multiplier to 300% so that Cloud's execution ability hits for 80k damage. It's like a single player MMORPG with every class working together.
94 hours and beat it. I'm not gonna lie the instakill that some of the enemies have truly ruined the experience. And who needs 28 mini games. Solid 8 out of 10
You're supposed to stagger the enemies before they fulfil the conditions for using the instakill. The game literally tells you that.
So sick, can't wait for the Steam release in January.....
Chained Echoes was a damn good jrpg. It really felt like a small resurgence back to the old days.
But Rebirth transported me back to 8 years old. Fucking game is easily a 10/10 and my personal GOTY. And I only thought FF7 Remake was only ok.
Now if only I weren't ass at action-based games.
Its amazing because you need to mash square then pick an ATB skill?
touch grass
Hater 😂
Why is yuffie and barret not doing anything
They aren’t in the “ fight” if you look on the bottom right, their name is not in there
@@chalupakingsamasometimes they fight without being in party
@@Rando1481 yeah I seen it that but I also seen this happen while playing them they randomly just run to the back while fighting lol
@@Rando1481 When your 2 of your 3 main fighter is "Beaten", Your other party will occasionally help you and you can even do attacks with them but you cant control them
@@chalupakingsamait was just weird that Yuffie got in so close when usually the backline team assists from a distance
When you look up immaculate in the dictionary you just see a photo of Teruki Endo (FF7R Battle Director).
What is Yuffie doing?
can another enemy rush in mid fight?
No, but some enemies can spawn in additional (weaker) enemies
People complain it's bad but can't point out the real issue.
Idk about Rebirth, but in Remake the dodge mechanic is completely useless because you have no Iframes and enemies have insane tracking, especially their grabs. Some players suggest that blocking is the main way of playing. Then what is the point of dodging, if you can't dodge anything properly and are forced to take damage through blocking?
Dodging in Remake does have i-frames, just too little. But, if you're prescice, you can benefit much from it. In Rebirth they improved dodging much.
@@КонстантинПаршуков-о6б I can tell you no matter how I time my dodges, they will never register. Good to hear Rebirth improves it though
I played Remake to 100% including Weiss the true final boss. You can definitely dodge grabs. In Rebirth you can block grabs with perfect block timing, and you have i-frames through synergy skills and abilities like Tifa's Focused Strike and Yuffie's Brumal Form
Sinceramente , es el mejor sistema de combate que he visto en mi vida , quizás solo Witcher 3 le llega .
I have RTX 3050ti laptop 4GB Vram can it run please tell me
Pretty unique mix of action and strategy like Dragon Age (that unfortunately DA:V got rid of most of them), but I find enemies and openworld are boring
The original openworld also boring too, the enemies is just like the rest of any rpgs games which is a punching bag.
And only when you fight elite boss it look hard enough.
@@igm1571I think enemies are much more than bags here. There are a lot of them with unique perks so you have to think how to deal with them rather than smash attack buttons. Like bombs, jokers or when they have dispel and return back your attacks. It’s hard to complete legendary bouts with regular enemies - not only with elite ones
Aerith ❤
Kinda reminds me of Xenoblade Chronicles 3 combat for some reason.
I need to finish remake 1st
I just beat that enemy myself and it was such a fun fight I refought him just for fun.
Square Enix is tanking hard, they lost 2 billion dollars since ff16 release, they can't decide which style to take and FF has a huge identity crisis they could go bankrupt if this keeps up. Capcom managed to save resident evil and make it thrive, Square Enix needs to listen to the fans, I agree also, I liked ff16 but it gets repetitive the button mashing, i love using m Aeirtih in ff7 and have the party members helping. Hopefully they can salvage and change FF direction before the game collapses
Amazing game but I’m worn out after 130 ish hours I stopped progress towards platinum.😊
@@Mrgearzz yeah the game gets very grindy
final zero progress on guitar
just looks like 90% mashing the x button to me
This is 100% Kingdom Hearts
Cant wait til this drops on PC in a month. I couldnt finish the PS5 version it was so poorly optimized. Performance mode was sub-HD and graphics mode ran at 30. Both unacceptable in 2024 on whats supposed to be (but really is anything but) a "next gen" console
is there a lot of time limited battles in this game cuz ew
so basically its tales like combat all over again
yup pretty much tales of combat is just so satisfying
although I love Tales combat, I still think this is much better
Haven't played rebirth yet but have played both arise and remake. I feel like tales wants you to only play one way whereas remake's combat gives the player more freedom. Tales of arise enemies turned into damage sponges at the end of the game and the only way to give good damage was to keep combo'ing and switching to continue the combos, after about 40 hours or so, it felt old. Bosses in the game do not get staggered so all you can really do against them is hit and run. I'd say the remake series is pretty superior to whatever tales of has made but that's my opinion
@@Crimsongambit hahaha what? The combat in "Tales of" is much more diverse, with many more skills and bigger combos.
In Action JRPG, there is no better gameplay than "Tales of", 100% guaranteed.
@@petepeeboy1106 You can say that for "tales of" but this remake is not much better cuz you have less Skill/combos to do.
People nowadays say these things, especially FF fan boys because normally FF games have an excellent visual appearance. But the graphical appearance and gameplay are completely different things.
Looks like they got rid of that annoying auto-aggro from the last game where the enemy would always target the player controlled character
@@lolwutyoumad nah that's still here lol
Nice 🎉
Rebirth is part 2 right?
Is the combat the same as part 1?
@@reubenmcmurray4377 similar but some major improvements like synergy which make it feel fresh and fun
omg moon greatsword from fromsoftware games
Video unrelated I assume?
No, it's not, it's one of the worst battle system in FF history.
This whole Rebirth is nothing compared to FF VIII or X.
😂
Really? Man, you're a fool...
@@КонстантинПаршуков-о6б go cry me a river 🤡
Comparing Rebirth to FFX is like comparing checkers to chess. In Rebirth,each character is unique. In FFX you can max out every character's stats, then all characters become carbon copies of each other. In Rebirth, every character is VERY unique throughout the entire game.
@@JuicyLeek but still FF X is far better than Rebirth.
Is this on UE5?
UE4
@Kane-uj8qs looks great on it. Idk why new games want UE5.
@@MrDarthvis yeah I agree
looks boring af to be honest why would you play this game ? is like playing on super easy no struggle at all like having cheats there is no fun in no challenge
Determining whether a game’s combat/gameplay is good purely through a visual video is a little ludicrous. It’s an on hands experience, this isn’t just for Rebirth either but any game.
Second to actually playing would be someone describing combat while using visuals.
Hater 😂😂
i don't get it. this is a 3d game , yet your placement in the arena is irrelevant. Why is there no blind side bonus damage like FFXV?
Duo attacks is from Chrono Trigger, and the Stagger system is from Final Fantasy 13, nothing new
Good grief 😂 what a valuable insight, I can see why you just had to share
😂😂😂 such a HATER
Best game ever made
ffxiv combat >>>
The best combat system of all time
Patapon 2 would like a word
@@c_l_a_d_d_i_xno one cares ❤
@@rosies69 r/woooosh
Hahaha hahahaha 🤣🤣🤡🤡
Cmon bruh lol
should be goty not astro bot
It's not even best rpg this year 🤡
Pass on whatever you are smoking- Rebirth is on of if not the best JRPGs since Automata and Persona 5
This is the BEST battle system i ever seen on an final fantasy game. Ff16 looks trash in comparison.
CAN'T WAIT FOR NXT MONTH TO PLAY THIS ON MY PC ❤
@ferrust9493 change to easy mode, remove all support items. Only spam the square and triangle button, no abilities usage. See if you can pass the main game with that, your opinion also trash when compairing two different combat mechanics!
@@Huan-1997 Trying to defend Final Devil Fantasy May Cry at the end of 2024... *sigh
Ff14
Yall are so hateful 😂😂
@@Crimsongambitboth games are amazing! Only those with a tiny brain do stuff like compairing something!
Oh and if you don't have anything to refute my comment! Then your comment also means nothing!
Yeah i prefer it over FF XVI
I wouldn't really call FF7 remake style of combat amazing from an action rpg lens. I don't think the devs were really trying to make in depth action rpg combat. So it ended up being a combat system where you don't have to learn and think that much, while having a bit of turn based aspects as well. It's similar to FF15. So I could see how Remake/Rebirth combat could be fun for the casual sort, but when comparing it to truely action rpg based games, it's unremarkable.
I have about 200 hours in FF15, 200 in Remake, and 230 in Rebirth. Combat in Rebirth is MUCH deeper and more tactical than FF15. It's not even close.
This gameplay should be followed by next FF..not by solo-hack n slash gameplay...haist
You need to explain why this is amazing. It doesn't look that great.
Hater 😂😂
one of the most underrated games
Everyone praised Rebirth.
You meant overrated 🤔
@ can’t you read?
@@saasaa-x3c I can, but Rebirth is so overrated, not underrated.
This is literally a false statement 😂
I see a total of 0 amazing things here, even the music is badly looped
Combat is lame. You need to contantly switch characters because the AI is just pure garbage. And plus the enemy will focus on the one who you control
Good game
Bad remake
Except too much mini game and quest. This game is best of the year. Story gameplay grAPHIC. I truly enjoy it
Ff16 better
@@sukunjara it's in my backlog
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool... NEVER!
But guess who won GOTY?
@@ChiRusNkFUSA astro is amazing but rebirth should've won
@ too many mini games
@@ChiRusNkFUSA yeah fair enough
@@ChiRusNkFUSA You don't need to play them! It's like you're saying "Too many ice cream flavors!" and you just want vanilla, so just go on vanilla!!
Who honestly cares about goty
Lol nah combat is trash
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Why are JRPG UIs such trash?
Lol shit gameplay 😂
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BAD THAN FF XV OR XVI
Better than both for a large margin!
@ no
I think it's shit
I think this is the best combat in any RPG
Great game!
I wonder if Asians will ever advance and get out of making games where the weapon is 10 times larger then the character and that senseless slashing all over the screen, effects everywhere, moaning, numbers jumping all around....
Hater 😂
@@rosies69 it's just facts, plain facts. I don't hate anything or anyone. Whoever doesn't agree with you is a hater 🤣🤦
The fuck are you on about?😂