Hey #PDArmy, we hope this helps you understand the difference between the cooling systems! If you wanna know more, do Comment below, and if you want to see more like this, give the video a Thumbs Up!
As the syllabus mentioned in Applied Thermodynamics of Mechanical Engineering, TY students have this topic, great initiative by PD team, I always enjoy stuff explained by Schumi!
Whoever came up with this idea needs a raise in this channel... this channel was all about just reviews with fancy cinematic and tough vocabulary... this is what we need... teach the youngsters about bikes in depth, it's technical knowledge, maintenance , repairs, working etc... This is great work guys... Kudos ❤❤❤💯💯💯💯
As an owner of CB350 RS, which employs an Air-cooled Engine, this video has put me at ease. Less things to be worried about. 😜 Thank you. Keep up the great work, Professor Shumi..
I also own the same bike, it does get quite hot but never overheats in hilly terrain rides with lower gears and high rpm, this experience of mine should further put your mind at ease
PowerDrift and Shumi have time and again proved to be the best place motorcycle and car lovers can come to, for nothing other than enlightenment! No nonsense content only for those who live and breathe automobiles! ❤️ I mean, you can find tons of videos in RUclips where they rev bikes hard, reach the top speeds and top altitudes, but to give you the ecstacy obtained from simply knowing more about your machine; that's where these guys Excel. Keep up the good work, and please don't ever stop! PowerDrift is a family I really want to see grow! More power to you. 🔥❤️
Some rumours had recently stated about VVT (variable valve timing)technology that bajaj might be bring out along with new pulsar 250f , plz cover this topic in ur upcoming video.
You are doing all of your viewers a massive disservice with this video. There is a substantial improvement in longevity of a liquid cooled engine against oil or air. Especially if used in hot and urban conditions.
@@madrummer666 Ha! Of course I can. I could have said that engine's don't need cooling at all! It's just manufacturers making money by tacking on unnecessary gunk to the bikes! :-D
Thank you for the light of wisdom to dispel the darkness of motorcycling ignorance!!! Although I am Bajaj fanboy, choosing an NS200 over the Apache 200 because the latter does not have liquid cooling is ridiculous.
Need a video on bike batteries, what wattage/voltage should we buy now as extended lockdowns and aho draining battery.And as most bikes are ditching kick starter, this has become a major problem.
Thanks guys the video was very informative. It helped to Understand about cooling system very quickly in a easy and short time. ❤❤keep doing this kind contents more. Wait for the next episode of the signals to signals.
I don't know if it's just my own experience, but air cooled engines tend to consume a little bit of oil on long rides, while liquid cooled bikes can run for thousands of kilometers without adding a drop of oil or coolant. I think it's because air cooled engines have larger tolerances to allow for heat expansion, while liquid cooled have a narrower temperature range and therefore tighter tolerances.
As always you guys never i repeat never leave a chance to impress your audience with knowledge and information of automotive world by just simplifying it. ❤
@@shu_mar totally agree, Right now i have seen people discussing latest technology and bells and bezels in their cars/bike so much that they forget to keep Riding / Driving in their priority list. I still see my dad enjoy riding his Rajdoot more than any new bike which has more electronics and comfort.
It's indeed wonderful to understand complicated content in byte sized pieces. I would love to know more about 2 valve and 4 valve engines. What impact does it have on performance and efficiency?
Really wishing for a simplified version of all the types of Braking systems used on 2-wheelers....like drum, discs and then comes the double discs or single discs and all...
From My Experience, I can say that If You Buy a BUDGET Bike Below 500 cc Oil Cooling is the Best Option to Go If an Air-cooled Engine can do 600+kms Nonstop On a Day without any problems, there is no Point spending the Extra Cash for a Liquid Cooled Engine.....But More than 500+cc Liquid Cooling is a Must
@@shu_mar No Doubt All The Cooling Systems You Mentioned will Work on a Brand New Motorcycle....But the M.$ question is Which one will be More RELIABLE, Cost-Effective and Easy to maintain In the Long Run.
@@shu_mar yup coolant isn't expensive... but in my 2015 Duke 390, coolant got mixed with the engine oil for 3rd time now and i have to pay Rs.6500 to get it repaired...But yeah coolant is inexpensive...😅...!
Yes i agree. Follow your heart and get the bike that satisfy you and trust the engineers who designed your engine to get the appropriate cooling system.
Harley Davidson has Air Engine cooling problem. I am a Harley rider and have seen 2016 2017 Fatboy models stop due to engine heating in slow Mumbai traffic (not in summer but also in Oct Nov). When this happens we used to wait for 20 25 mins and then the bike starts again.
How tyer engineering works on bike should we change the tyer size from stock or not or only choose recommended tyers from motorcycle company??plz reply
I beg to differ, i used to own pulsar 150 (2010 batch), when riding enthusiastically on long distances and especially in hilly terrains, it shuts off due to certain heat of the engine. I had to stop often, say after every 40km or so. Second, I currently use NS200 bs6 as my commuter, as it's a liquid cooled, the hot air gets directed to the lower parts of the legs but by the time it touchthe legs, it feels warm (not hot). Travel 100km in a single take, it doesn't dissapoint.
Hey Shumi, please do a simplified video about rear suspension PreLoad adjustability for different riding scenarios. Please don't UN-Simplify it by going into Compression and Rebound adjustability.
I am making a list of Gyan from Shumi 1. Don't ride the specs. ride the bike 2. Look for a motorcycle which makes you happy, that far more important than what cooling system it uses 3. Test ride and decide! .....more will be added
Water, air and oil cooled engines are in the end air cooled engines. The difference is in what type of liquid/gas we will use to dissipate/transfer heat from the source. I have a BMW motorcycle with a boxer engine. The engine is cooled by air and oil, plus there are no problems with traffic jams because it is equipped with a thermostat and a fan. I don't see any flaws. Water cooling is "future" bc the reduction in oil capacity and emmisons standards is intended to preserve the environment. So today, highly efficient engines are made that are more enviromentaly friendly, and on the other hand, there are more complex systems that require more expensive production and maintenance, as well as a higher probability that something breaks down.
I did observe that higher the compression more sophisticated is cooling system required. For eg, gixxer sf250 vs fz25 vs R15.. r15 being highest has LC system whereas sf goes with OC system and fz just gets with air cooled. The relation mostly i see is with compression ratio. Please correct me if I am wrong.
What is important is the engine oil temperature as viscosity of the lube oil varies with the temperature. Any cooling system needs to keep the lube oil temperature within specified range to prevent its faster degradation and viscosity within range for low frictional HP loss. It will be worth to compare the lube oil temp of two 250 CC engines (each having different cooling systems) after say a 100 km run or steep climb of 30 - 40 km ie something similar to the dyno tests being done by auto journalists.
Cooling system is decided by manufacturer based on compression ratio of air fuel mixture. High compression(above 10 :1) engines like ktm have liquid cooled engine, low compression engines like harley and royal enfeild interceptor have air cooled and some bikes use oil cooler. And gixxer 250 cooling system does not fit into any of 3 cooling system explained by shumi. Its fully oil cooled without engine fins
PD bhaiya ye batao. Should I buy cb shine if i have back issues in past or should I buy a platina? Which commuter has good comfort ride? Or Tvs raider. Which one should I go for?
In theory yes. But in the other direction. The more power the engine is supposed to make, the more heat it produces. And therefore the more the chance it’ll need liquid cooling
Hey #PDArmy, we hope this helps you understand the difference between the cooling systems! If you wanna know more, do Comment below, and if you want to see more like this, give the video a Thumbs Up!
Wish shumi was my Heat Transfer teacher😅
This is actually the perfect explanation, for " Normies " .
Which one is better engine turbo or the naturally aspirated ones. Keep a session for that.
Guys can you do video on what can we do to stiffen up front end in non adjustable setups we have here
@@legolash8370 basically nothing other than a more viscous fluid in the shocks to stiffen em up, and/or new, stiffer shocks is usually the option
As the syllabus mentioned in Applied Thermodynamics of Mechanical Engineering, TY students have this topic, great initiative by PD team, I always enjoy stuff explained by Schumi!
Thanks SS!
Thank you Sammed! More coming up!
@@shu_mar Also thanks for Inspiring all auto enthusiasts out there
🤣🤣🤣
Shumi explains better than my professor, hands down!
Any professor for that matter!!
@@Prashantlunawat no
Correction : Sensei Shumi ☯️
exactly
@@WarriorOfTheSunset ah another Otaku like me
Which cooling system do PowerDrift use? Coz You guys are the coolest thing during the summers 😉
Motorcycles keep us cool!
@@shu_mar ❤
Pretty gay
@@shu_mar loved dat reply
Pulsar 220 , first oil cooled machine for the masses. 70k kms , still going strong. Thanx PD for simply explaining the facts
Shumi, you are expert in explaining complicated things in a simple way. Great podcast series
Thank you!
Whoever came up with this idea needs a raise in this channel... this channel was all about just reviews with fancy cinematic and tough vocabulary... this is what we need... teach the youngsters about bikes in depth, it's technical knowledge, maintenance , repairs, working etc...
This is great work guys...
Kudos ❤❤❤💯💯💯💯
Thank you!
Well said "Look for the motorcycle which makes you happy, that's far more important than what cooling system it uses". 🤙❤
Amen!
Cheers!
Cheers!
As an owner of CB350 RS, which employs an Air-cooled Engine, this video has put me at ease. Less things to be worried about. 😜
Thank you. Keep up the great work, Professor Shumi..
Cheers!
I also own the same bike, it does get quite hot but never overheats in hilly terrain rides with lower gears and high rpm, this experience of mine should further put your mind at ease
Just today I'll clocked some 200kms ride in my CB350 mostly at 90 ish kmph. Engine heats but never felt inside pants..
I think if Honda wants to give more power than bullet 350 with same engine size then they should give liquid cool.
Shumi's detailed and in depth explanation automatically inspires to crush that like button!
Woohoo!
Thank you!
@@shu_mar double thanks for really simplifying sire 🙏🏽
PowerDrift and Shumi have time and again proved to be the best place motorcycle and car lovers can come to, for nothing other than enlightenment! No nonsense content only for those who live and breathe automobiles! ❤️
I mean, you can find tons of videos in RUclips where they rev bikes hard, reach the top speeds and top altitudes, but to give you the ecstacy obtained from simply knowing more about your machine; that's where these guys Excel. Keep up the good work, and please don't ever stop! PowerDrift is a family I really want to see grow! More power to you. 🔥❤️
Thank you so so much!
My old ktm proves that any cooling system is not good enough for a ktm😆
bruhh...
it's a feature, you can air fry food if you need to.
High compression ratio
Bruhh 😂
@@anikets4699 tandoori legs
@@MAX-dx2cx a
If Shumi _sensei_ keeps up with such great explanations, pretty sure Byjus will want to acquire PD.
Underrated.
Some rumours had recently stated about VVT (variable valve timing)technology that bajaj might be bring out along with new pulsar 250f , plz cover this topic in ur upcoming video.
Can do!
We shall try Yash!
It's vva of Yamaha! Nothing new
This simplified series is a boon for all automotive enthusiasts and Shumi is the best man for the job !!!
Thank you Amit! Would you share this with your friends? It would really help us!
@@shu_mar Indeed
As an automobile engineering student ur videos are very useful to me
I wait all day to watch Powerdrift Vids!!! Why are they sooo good? Also Love Shumi!
Because you love them! 😂
@@shu_mar OMG!!! IT'S SHUMI!!!! LOVE YOU SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!! Really hope to meet you someday!! ❤❤😍
Yes we want the video on how the liquid cooling system works on bikes in detail. Thank you for the wonderful information❣️👏
Noted! Thanks for the suggestion!
Can do!
His explaination always feels personal !
Thanks! Everything about motorcycles is always personal!
You are doing all of your viewers a massive disservice with this video.
There is a substantial improvement in longevity of a liquid cooled engine against oil or air. Especially if used in hot and urban conditions.
Not true! Most motorcycle engines have the exact same design life. Cooling solutions are brought in based on role, performance and cost budget
u cant be more wrong
@@madrummer666 Ha! Of course I can. I could have said that engine's don't need cooling at all! It's just manufacturers making money by tacking on unnecessary gunk to the bikes! :-D
@@shu_mar sir my reply was for Donald Johnson. I completely agree with ur gyan.
This really made a world of difference, helps understand things a lot better !
Cheers! Thank you!
@@shu_mar i should Thank you for the explanation .
Thank you for the light of wisdom to dispel the darkness of motorcycling ignorance!!!
Although I am Bajaj fanboy, choosing an NS200 over the Apache 200 because the latter does not have liquid cooling is ridiculous.
I knew this, but saw the full video as I love the way you speak 👌your enthusiasm is amazing
Thank you!
Need a video on bike batteries, what wattage/voltage should we buy now as extended lockdowns and aho draining battery.And as most bikes are ditching kick starter, this has become a major problem.
Shumi should open a school of motorcycles....
Hands down, he is the best teacher
Already has. Check this out - ruclips.net/video/LbEJTDSaei4/видео.html
@@powerdriftofficial Wow...❤️❤️❤️❤️
Wish I could join...
But I don't have my bike....
Someday I willl
that's a simple, precise explanation which is very informative.... well done👌👌👌
Thank you Santosh!
The best cooling system to get over this boring lockdown time is "power drift " cooling system 😜🙏
Arrey Arrey! Thank you!
Loved the conclusion that shumi explained “buy the motorcycle that makes u happy”
It’s 💯 true!
Hi Shumi please come with series of video on EV Policy and also regular changes on that as it's complicated and changing within a short span
Thanks guys the video was very informative. It helped to Understand about cooling system very quickly in a easy and short time. ❤❤keep doing this kind contents more.
Wait for the next episode of the signals to signals.
Thanks SS! S2S next episode is coming v v v soon!
@@shu_mar 😄😄🤟😍thanks.
I don't know if it's just my own experience, but air cooled engines tend to consume a little bit of oil on long rides, while liquid cooled bikes can run for thousands of kilometers without adding a drop of oil or coolant. I think it's because air cooled engines have larger tolerances to allow for heat expansion, while liquid cooled have a narrower temperature range and therefore tighter tolerances.
What you said is absolutely true...
would love a discussion on short gearing and long gearing and effectiveness of both
Can do!
yes plzzz 😊
Cooling system is most important to run an heavy engine ,
Nice explanation 👍😊
Thank you!
what about heavy rider
@@no22sill ya 😂 they will be automatically cool if they are riding heavy bikes
How about a 150cc does it need to liquid cool?
@@JC-fx3wh if the ride is small then don't need , but if the kms are long than liquid cooling can help
Thanks for the crystal clear explanation. Absolute clarity. Thank you bro.
As always you guys never i repeat never leave a chance to impress your audience with knowledge and information of automotive world by just simplifying it. ❤
Thank you AA! The idea isn’t to impress. It’s to get you to focus on riding rather than worrying
@@shu_mar totally agree, Right now i have seen people discussing latest technology and bells and bezels in their cars/bike so much that they forget to keep Riding / Driving in their priority list. I still see my dad enjoy riding his Rajdoot more than any new bike which has more electronics and comfort.
Would like to know about the advantages and disadvantages of both led and halogen during rain,fog and night
Learnt something new today. Thank you shumi
Cheers!
Can you guys make a video about the different types on engines and how they work?
Thanks
Can do!
From Karnataka 🙏 sir iam always watching your vedio and it's..... amazing and with helpful content 😊
Great concise knowledge
I have subscribed to this channel since r15 2.0 review was out. I love this simplified series.
It's indeed wonderful to understand complicated content in byte sized pieces. I would love to know more about 2 valve and 4 valve engines. What impact does it have on performance and efficiency?
My kind of Morning News.. Thanks a lot Shumi Sir ❣
🍻
Sir, pl do a video on Booster Plugs in superbikes & how effective is in yerms of rideability?
Can do!
The elegance with which shumi speaks is just awesome
Hey guys! Could you do a video on the breaking-in of an engine, and why we should do it? Thanks!
Really wishing for a simplified version of all the types of Braking systems used on 2-wheelers....like drum, discs and then comes the double discs or single discs and all...
Can do!
@@shu_mar Thanks a lot shumi 🙏
Also single pot calipers
How to choose riding gear? A video on that will save lives 🙏🏻
Good Morning Teacher (Shumi) 😜 Excellent Video to understand the basis.
Yes Shumi.. plz make videos on how the colling systems really work.
wow i always thaught Air cooled is big con but now my concept get cleared.
Glad to hear this helped! :D
From My Experience, I can say that If You Buy a BUDGET Bike Below 500 cc Oil Cooling is the Best Option to Go If an Air-cooled Engine can do 600+kms Nonstop On a Day without any problems, there is no Point spending the Extra Cash for a Liquid Cooled Engine.....But More than 500+cc Liquid Cooling is a Must
I think you’re overthinking it. I don’t care what cooling system is on my bike as long as I’m convinced that it works
@@shu_mar No Doubt All The Cooling Systems You Mentioned will Work on a Brand New Motorcycle....But the M.$ question is Which one will be More RELIABLE, Cost-Effective and Easy to maintain In the Long Run.
@@anupamtheboss4536 same thing. They’re exactly the same in the long run too. Coolant isn’t expensive
@@shu_mar yup coolant isn't expensive... but in my 2015 Duke 390, coolant got mixed with the engine oil for 3rd time now and i have to pay Rs.6500 to get it repaired...But yeah coolant is inexpensive...😅...!
@@akshaydhanorkar Change your mechanic! They’re not installing the shaft seals correctly!
I can listen to Shumi all day ❤
💖
Yes i agree. Follow your heart and get the bike that satisfy you and trust the engineers who designed your engine to get the appropriate cooling system.
Hey try to do a video on slipper clutch, dct clutch ect
Cool idea. Thanks for the suggestion.
Can do!
SIR WONDERFUL ELOQUENCE AND BEAUTIFUL EXPLANATION..LOVE YOU AND YOUR WISDOM THANK YOU
Hi Powerdrift, it's been a great information 👍. Tell us Engine breaking 😀
Yes. They should.
Just liked the way how he summed up everything a to make the most important point at the end.
Harley Davidson has Air Engine cooling problem. I am a Harley rider and have seen 2016 2017 Fatboy models stop due to engine heating in slow Mumbai traffic (not in summer but also in Oct Nov).
When this happens we used to wait for 20 25 mins and then the bike starts again.
harley is American haathi
Thank you Shumi.. And PD.. Love ur podcast.. ❤
Look for a motorcycle that makes u happy. This line has my heart ❤️ attached to it
excellent this is really simplified..
Glad you think so! Cheers!
Powerdtift my favourite car and bike reviewer ❤️❤️
I always wait when powerdrifts videos will come ❤️
Btw shumi reaaly a great explanation
Thank you!
A video on X ring, O ring and other types of motorcycle chains would be great!
Can do!
12th!
Extremely well explained, thank you!
How tyer engineering works on bike should we change the tyer size from stock or not or only choose recommended tyers from motorcycle company??plz reply
This is what i want to study mechanical engineering....
I beg to differ, i used to own pulsar 150 (2010 batch), when riding enthusiastically on long distances and especially in hilly terrains, it shuts off due to certain heat of the engine. I had to stop often, say after every 40km or so. Second, I currently use NS200 bs6 as my commuter, as it's a liquid cooled, the hot air gets directed to the lower parts of the legs but by the time it touchthe legs, it feels warm (not hot). Travel 100km in a single take, it doesn't dissapoint.
Almost in every video, Shumi is saying to buy the bike you love the most. That is the most important advice.
Hi Prof! Brilliant video!
Thanks AD!
Hey Shumi, please do a simplified video about rear suspension PreLoad adjustability for different riding scenarios.
Please don't UN-Simplify it by going into Compression and Rebound adjustability.
Can do!
Can you please explain slipper clutch and clutch ....and 6 box gear etc related to clutch and gear
Coming soon!
Well explained
I am making a list of Gyan from Shumi
1. Don't ride the specs. ride the bike
2. Look for a motorcycle which makes you happy, that far more important than what cooling system it uses
3. Test ride and decide!
.....more will be added
Hahaha! Your list is just gonna get longer!
Test ride and decide!
@@shu_mar Oh yes, let me add that
@@powerdriftofficial oh yes
Thank you Shumi, for busting myths.
Awesome video Professor ❤️
Superb sir
Shumi sir Is there any differences in terms of coolant in bike and car?
No.
@@shu_mar thank you sir. Thanks for the reply. Big fan ☺️
bhaiya shoub be my subject teacher😅.
the way he explain is just amazing.
I feel Air cooled are the best for Indian conditions.... unless you hit tracks or do serious highway cruising!! 👐
I disagree! To me the cooling system is a function of what the engine needs. That’s all. Case closed there only
@@shu_mar Yeey....I really wanted to hear that from you...😁 ... Thanks!
Water, air and oil cooled engines are in the end air cooled engines. The difference is in what type of liquid/gas we will use to dissipate/transfer heat from the source. I have a BMW motorcycle with a boxer engine. The engine is cooled by air and oil, plus there are no problems with traffic jams because it is equipped with a thermostat and a fan. I don't see any flaws. Water cooling is "future" bc the reduction in oil capacity and emmisons standards is intended to preserve the environment.
So today, highly efficient engines are made that are more enviromentaly friendly, and on the other hand, there are more complex systems that require more expensive production and maintenance, as well as a higher probability that something breaks down.
I did observe that higher the compression more sophisticated is cooling system required. For eg, gixxer sf250 vs fz25 vs R15.. r15 being highest has LC system whereas sf goes with OC system and fz just gets with air cooled. The relation mostly i see is with compression ratio. Please correct me if I am wrong.
What is important is the engine oil temperature as viscosity of the lube oil varies with the temperature. Any cooling system needs to keep the lube oil temperature within specified range to prevent its faster degradation and viscosity within range for low frictional HP loss. It will be worth to compare the lube oil temp of two 250 CC engines (each having different cooling systems) after say a 100 km run or steep climb of 30 - 40 km ie something similar to the dyno tests being done by auto journalists.
If the manufacturer has done their homework, there won’t be any difference.
Thanks shumi.
Short ... Crisp and Perfect ... Nothing more ... Nothing less ...
Sir I want know about both cooling system like ducati v4r pumping mechanism and pressure oil pumps mechanism like superduke
exactly
Also, would you be covering Benelli 500c? (Please 🥺)
Test bike awaited!
Some information regarding ENGINE OIL ADDITIVE are they any good?
Thanks shumi
Hey can you make a video in explaining the difference between the power and torque and which one does matters the most in the Indian condition.
Can do!
Cooling system is decided by manufacturer based on compression ratio of air fuel mixture. High compression(above 10 :1) engines like ktm have liquid cooled engine, low compression engines like harley and royal enfeild interceptor have air cooled and some bikes use oil cooler.
And gixxer 250 cooling system does not fit into any of 3 cooling system explained by shumi. Its fully oil cooled without engine fins
Yes, would like to know In detail.
100%agreed 👍
PD bhaiya ye batao. Should I buy cb shine if i have back issues in past or should I buy a platina? Which commuter has good comfort ride? Or Tvs raider. Which one should I go for?
Shumi...Can you explain legality about additional FOG LED LIGHT installation..?
SHUMI t-shirt is matching with background. i.e attention to detail
Gixxer 250 has fully oil cooled which has no fins in it. Some ppl refering it as Jet cooling. Can you explain about it???
Excellent, simple, concise...great job!
does cooling system change the power extracted from system .. for example 150 cc liquid cooled can produce more power compared to 150 cc air cooled
In theory yes. But in the other direction. The more power the engine is supposed to make, the more heat it produces. And therefore the more the chance it’ll need liquid cooling