Engine failure on takeoff. PAN-PAN. VivaAerobus Airbus A320 Returns to Chicago Airport. Real ATC
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
18-FEB-2024. A VivaAerobus Airbus A320 (A320), registration XA-VAU, performing flight VIV543 / VB543 from Chicago O'Hare International Airport, IL (USA) to Guadalajara Don Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla International Airport (Mexico) shortly after take-off was informed by the air traffic controller about the smoke out of the left engine. The flight crew declared PAN-PAN, reported left engine failure and requested return to Chicago O’Hare Airport. Prior to return the pilots requested delay vectors to run the checklists and reported their intentions to do an overweight landing. Subsequently the airplane landed safely on runway 28 right at Chicago O’Hare Airport.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Description of situation
00:17 Smoke out of the engine on takeoff
00:55 PAN-PAN. Engine failure. The flight crew wants delay vectors.
08:01 The pilots are ready to commence the approach
08:45 VIVA 543 was transferred to the frequency of Approach controller
10:37 The flight crew contacts Tower controller
10:58 Landing. Communications on the ground
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THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
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I am amazed how calm the flight crew was during entire flight!
They train for these scenarios on a yearly basis
That’s what we pay them the big bucks for! To NOT panic!
Yeah they were so calm the first guy sounded like he didn’t give a crap.🤣
Obviously an experienced crew. 😎👍🏼
I was on my way to work (at my CFI) job when they flew over. Thought it was kinda odd they landed on 28R as that is usually reserved for departures. This explains it!
06:12 ATC really doesn't know which side of the A320 the number 1 engine is on ?? Or is it just a matter of finding out whether the pilots know this too...?
I was asking myself the same question, I think he just wanted to make sure they're on the same page. They probably hardly ever have to say it in day to day operations so maybe he just wasn't sure enough anymore.
Is there any practical difference between a PAN-PAN and a full emergency other than emphasizing the technical nature? I was a bit surprised when ATC declared. With my limited knowledge, it seems like double-tapping, but I appreciate that there may be more to it.
"Emergency" is a US term. Pretty much everywhere else in the world (and legally this is also supposed to happen in the US), emergencies are declared via
"MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY" (for a "distress" condition - this has priority over all other flights)
or "PAN-PAN PAN-PAN PAN-PAN" (for a "urgency" condition - this has priority over all other flights except MAYDAY, this is for an emergency that is still an emergency but there is less risk of a crash if immediate assistance is not given).
I don't know it for sure, but I think I've read that PAN PAN PAN is "priority" but still under regular ATC operations while "MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY" means the airplane can basically say what they want or need to do and ATC has to make it happen. Again, not sure.
Pan pan is urgent. Mayday is emergent. So pan pan is oh, crap, and Mayday is oh, shit.
@@Fireandbubbles😅
The language and terminology use/difference was hilarious 😂😂😂 "tonnes = kilograms" (for you 'Mericans); "engine one, is that left or right?" "That's the left one" 😂
Just switch to the metric system already 😜
It’s really amazing how many of these foreign pilots are certificated as English proficient
These guys are pretty good. How's your Mexican/Española when you're stressed?
@@theChickenstoneslmao. You’re*
....he doesn't need to know Spanish since it's not the international universal language when he's stressed in aviation................@@theChickenstones
@@KuostA I fear you missed my point.
wrong person?@@andrewellard7254
12.4 uhm.. kilograms of fuel would be a real problem 🤡🥸
Are these incidents increasing overall or are they just getting coverage they didn't used to get?
I would guess more flights == more incidents…
Planes are getting old 😅
More coverage. On the whole, aircraft are more reliable than they used to be. Subject aircraft 7 yrs old, so not an age thing. Could easily have been a bird strike or just engine failure. All in all, handled by the book.
12.4 kg of fuel?
Tonnes as in kilograms that’s what the pilots tryna say i think
@@duk2k yes, instead of saying twelve thousand four hundred it's easier to say 12.4
Ah ok
"We will declare an emergency for you" Does this just mean they will pass along the emergency status? The pilots already declared the emergency with tower and re-declared when they switched to departure.
just american vs icao thing, pilots dont really need to worry about it. the controller was stating what he was doing in the american style, to cover his own ass with the faa, altho most likely it didn't actually change much for him other than the faa red tape, almost certainly the "panpanpan" was enough to get him into the correct brainspace.
The declaration of a PAN is notification of an urgency condition by the crew as defined by ICAO, not of an emergency as signified by MAYDAY. However, at least in the U.S., ATC is able to declare an emergency on their end to operationally expedite certain steps.
@@UnshavenStatueThis is not correct information.
Must suck being a passenger needing to get somewhere, but instead your flight does circles for an hour, then lands right back at O'Hare. What happens next? Booked on a later flight? Stuck in the airport for a day? Crappy #1 engine!! 😡
What would suck worse is crashing and leaving your family behind. I deal
With the hour and whatever delays.
I’ll take circles for an hour and landing safely than not. Passengers will get accommodated on the next available flight.
What happens next is that you call your family and tell them you're alive
I was on a red-eye SFO-PHL with a bird strike on the climb out. It crushed the nosecone. We circled out over the Pacific to burn off some fuel before returning to land after midnight. I got a hotel an hour away and had a flight at 5:30 the next morning. My life sucked hard that night.
a free night in a hotel doesn't seem that bad to me. @@easternpa2
Wow … don’t fly that Co.
of course fly that Co, they did it perfectly.
Barely communicate with English --- almost barely ?
Nonsense, The P/O & the P/F spoke well. How's your Mexican/Española when your stressed?
....he doesn't need to know Spanish since it's not the international universal language when he's stressed in aviation................ @theChickenstones
@@theChickenstones
His English was great, there was absolutely no miscommunication, watch other videos on this channel and you'll see much more miscommunication between American native English speakers for all kinds of reasons.