Making an Abus Plus Disc Detainer Pick
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- I’ve been meaning to make one of these ABUS Plus picks for a while and also make use of these clunky discs detainer picks you can buy from China 👍😃 These picks won’t work for newer centre tensioning ABUS Plus locks though.
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I’ve been meaning to make one of these ABUS Plus picks for a while and also make use of these clunky discs detainer picks you can buy from China 👍😃 These picks won’t work for newer centre tensioning ABUS Plus locks though.
There are profile disks in the smaller 88/40Plus lock, I took one apart to attempt to put false gates into the disks, but I bungled the gut and now I have a useless lock >_< the sidebar is missing, the pack is out of order vs. the key, and I don't know how to properly get all the ball bearings back where they belong... disaster all around on my part.
Have you looked at using ejector pins? Like these -
www.ebay.com/itm/100-PCS-6mm-Tip-2mm-Shank-150mm-Long-Straight-Ejector-Pins-Punching-Mold/301817787689
Note: I am not recommending those. They're just the ones someone else cited.
A link you and followers may not know of for cutaway training locks that a repinable too .www.locksaway.co.uk/
One of the most teachable channel around.
Thank you so much for the help. I was in the process of modifying mine and thought I may have taken off too much. But after watching realized no I’m not quite there yet. 👍🏼
It’s amazing how with just a few modifications those cheap Chinese Disc Pick can open some really high security locks. Great work my friend, Thank you for the shout out, & Have a fantastic Xmas & New Year.
Thanks Daz. Credit where credit’s due my friend 😃
Nice job!
Looking forward to the picking.
"Let the pick begin"!!!
Thanks 😊
Great stuff - thank you for teaching us mate! 😜😜
Wonderful work!!!
I will have to try that!
I do have an old Abus 88 plus to pick!!
Thank you for sharing this cool bit of pick making!!!
🐈👍👍👍🐈🌲⛄️
Thanks Chris :-)
I love watching these videos where you guys & gals (pickers) come up with a solution to a problem by modifying tools of the trade or even inventing new ones, cheers all ;-)
Thanks 🙏
Nicely done Ash, have a great one.
Had to come back & watch it on my big monitor, I can't see crap on a phone hardly. LOL!!!! Appreciate you sharing this process with us my friend, have a great one also.
Thanks friend 🙏
nice job, i can't believe you did all that with the dremel and file in under three minutes.
lol I’m just that skilled :-)
Brilliant work LockNoob! Well done and great video.
Thanks 🙏
Great modding! Now, it's the tool it was meant to be! 👍
Thank you 🙏
Thank you ! I'll have to but it , & a rotary toll. My angle ginder; a bit over-kill..
Glad I save all these great informative videos. Starting on DD picking and just pulled this cheap pick to modify. Thanks for showing!
Honestly wish you had used a vice when grinding - one slip would equal massive pain :o. That said - awesome job buddy 👍
I know what you mean, but I do take a lot of care :-)
Excellent tool making, thanks for the demo!
Thanks 😊
Merry Christmas 👍
And to you :-)
Nicely done ash my friend. Turned out pretty good 👍🤘🖖🍻
Thank you DALP :-)
Good job. I took it a few steps further and replaced the inner tension part with a solid piece because these tend to fall off. Also I used a mini lathe to bring down dia. Of outer shaft and silver soldered a piece of steel on for the fingers. I look forward to see what Sparrows comes out with.
Waiting on sparrows here too
Sounds like you did a really nice job! 👍😃
Great picking and I think you have refined the tool very well and I think I am going to be refining my own now. Merry Christmas my friend.
Thanks Drew, you too!
Thanks Ash,I did Exactly what you said on your video. And I believe I have a working disk detainer. Thanks. Have a great week my friend
Nice modifications and nice picking LN. Love your craftsmanship, modification videos. There is hope for those Chinese picks after all. Cheers Daz. Take care and have a great holidays.
Thanks friend 🙏
see not only do i have lock + lock pick envy watch all these videos i now have tool and workmanship envy .. great video i learned alot like i now need a dremel tool.
Nice work!!
Thanks 😊
Great video and great disc detainer tool my dear friend! The detainer disc locks are one of my pending subject on picking. I made some tools on the past, but nothing confortable to a consistent picking. Soon or later a will put my hands on them and learn to pick them.
Thanks for showing buddy. I wish you a great great new year for you and for your family, cheers! ;o))
Disc Detainers will be no challenge to you Tallan 👍😀
Amazing buddy thanks for sharing. 😎
Thank you 😊
Merry Christmas
And to you :-)
Good job.
Thank you! Cheers!
Really nice video
Thanks 🙏
Nice job of modding the pick! I've never picked a disc detainer (have watched video's). I never realized the picking part could or had to slide in between the discs as well. I don't know if there's a way to show how that works on video but I'd (and probably others as well) would love to see how that's done.... PLEASE....
It doesn’t have to fit between the discs on all DD locks, but certainly Abloy. It’s very very hard to demonstrate too... I have the blind and open picking video to publish soon so maybe that will help?
Time to break out my dremal I think. Thank you Sir!
Thank you :-)
very cool Ash my friend great job and yh Daz is a legend merry christmas mate👍😊👊🇬🇧😎
Merry Christmas Leon 😊👍👍
Great practical vid. 🍺😎
good video,it helped me, thanks
Thanks 🙏
Mine went all loose, when I ground mine down. Had to stick a blob of braze on the end and grind down again.... Better than new
Yes, I was worried that mine would come loose, but I got away with it!
Very cool video my Friend
Thanks :-)
I love the bitting on that lock, I could watch that open on repeat #ASMR LOL
Lol
Why make the picking tip thin enough to fit between the discs? Is it to allow it to spin between them to enter an adjacent disc without manipulating one that you've just set?
Exactly 😀
@@LockNoob Awesome thank you that's really helpful and love your videos am learning a lot from them.
Quick question, where did you get the red plastic block that you used to hold and steady the black tensioner while you ground it?
Very neat mod. I'm wondering if it's possible to mod another one of these so that the tension tip can be used as the pick tip, and the pick tip be used as the tension tip for locks that tension the other way round. ...especially handy for deeper set disk stacks
Possibly!
That bit :) LOL
😁
Nice...what about the Sparrows one any word on its release
I know it’s on it’s way but not when exactly
I keep trying to modify my two little cheap disks detainer picks, but I always mess up on something. Can't pick my nose right without making it bleed Ash. I'm hopeless in the making of the picks. HELP I DON'T HAVE A DECENT DISK DETAINER PICK
Sparrows should be along for the rescue soon I hope! :-)
@@LockNoob I hear ya on that
If I tried to do that, I would end up losing at least two fingers, breaking three pick tips and crying in the corner for four hours.
If you ever do a give away for this pick, I'll make a thousand YT accounts and cross my fingers !
I mean, you would still have 8 fingers, so it wouldn’t be all bad 😆
Fantastic job Ash. I have'nt got round to DD locks yet. Thanks for sharing and have a great weekend.
Thank you Gazz 👍🙏
Where did u get the abus cutaway lock?
Find on ebay
@@LockNoob thank u
Will this work on the new abus 20/70, 20/80 discus-locks?
Possibly not
You need to get yourself a bench grinder! Have you ever had one of those little grinding discs explode in your face? Not a good look!
Yes and yes lol. I wear face protection and take care :-)
@@LockNoob Good call. Those things can do a whole lot of damage really quick!✌
Nice job, as usual. I have a question for you. I was wondering if it would not be possible to still use the regular front tensioning tool for this lock, and just use a technic LPL does when it's not the first disk that is actually the one to rotate the core. When all disks seems to be picked except the first one, he finds a zero cut disk, apply tension with the tip while rotating the front disc with the whole pick until it falls into a gate and then opens. Wouldn't that work on this Abus plus Disc ? There is an example on his video 988 : ruclips.net/video/2_9x9iiJ_Z0/видео.html
Thanks in advance for your reply
I like that technique for sure but it only works on some locks. New Abus plus cores have a butterfly disc in position 1 and 6 which makes that technique obsolete. Also, while what LPL does can be done, it’s very circumstantial to a particular lock as over-rotating a disc to tension can mean other discs don’t bind.
@@LockNoob Hi dude, thanks so much for your reply, that makes sense, and is very well explained, as usual. What is a butterfly disc ? I'm not sure to understand what they do
In any case, I tried to grind my rear tension disk pick and the large tip fell out. It seems to be soldered from the tip of it only. So better to grind/thin it from the back following along the wire which is not easy...Maybe I was not lucky with my pick. Very cool that you take time to reply to pretty much all the comment I appreciate it !
Jason_Music Frim what I can tell, the disk is shaped in a way that when rotated past the gate it literally pushes the side bar away from the other discs
@@LockNoob OK, I see that makes sense. How to detect and deal with those discs then ? Thanks again !
@@LockNoob Hi again dude, sorry to be a bit insistent but I'd just like to understand. After checking again LPL picks 2 Abus plus core (548) (689) and one X-plus (999) using the front tensioning "pick that bosnian bill and I made" without any issue, so what's the deal ? Thanks in advance for your time.
This type of pick are crap. None of them work without modify, even with those cheap chinese lock. And careful with that tension tip. It's only held on place by that single punched dimple. And very easy to get loose after shaping.