Students of the game love this style on videos. The full game and open thought commentary its the tik tok brains the love the silly noises and cut away to memes. I just found your videos so I dont know what edited videos look like but these videos so far I like.
Hi Shok! 😊 What are the reasons for maxing W second instead of E? Lower CD on E would increase mobility and survivability, which seems very important on Smolder. Would you ever consider maxing E second? Merry Christmas! 🎄❤️🙏
I have seen E max a few times, W is a lot more dmg though and I think with good positioning you should be able to manage without E max 2nd, that being said if you feel like you're gonna get multiple Es off and die without them maybe it's good
I struggled a lot with Smolder against mages, but now I run comet + scorch against them, and I seem to be winning every matchup by poking them out of lane and just punishing cooldowns. You told me that comet is not really viable, and that I should go fleet instead, but with fleet I feel like I'm always on the backfoot. Merely trying to survive, and not really trying to win the lane. What do you think of this? Are you underrating comet? Am I just better with the aggressive playstyle? Or is it because I'm only playing Smolder in high emerald and not grandmaster, which makes comet stronger? I truly feel like I have an answer to every lane now with comet :)
Well I can't say for sure because I haven't used it, but I don't see comet flipping any of the mage matchups into your favor (viktor, syndra, ori etc) so to me it just seems you scale worse for damage in lane that doesn't change bases or anything. If you're having success with it keep using it until you stop having success with it and who knows maybe you'll climb really high
you dont use fleetwork well. no shame really because it is one of the best runes but hardest runes to use correctly. comet just rewards you playing passively waiting for W cooldown and them not dodging and frankly it sounds like youre low elo.
@@zacharyjackson1829 Comet is not a passive rune. I proc it with my Q when I punish their cooldowns. Its a point and click ability that is not dodgeable. Also, my main is master tier, I don't really see how the laning phase is that different on my smolder account xd
I played against viktor and i understand why it should be banned while playing smolder. That was a horrific experience. Almost impossible to trade with an undodgeable E. Is there any chance we can play resolve second to get second wind or jack of all trades is a must?
As an old viktor main and now a smolder otp they are quite different. Smolder has a better wave clear, can avoid gamgs and can move around the map faster but viktor has more raw damage that can carry the team. Even if you are fed as smolder you still will lose a 1v1 against 0 6 yone and can get oneshot in a teamfight if you are not careful but viktor can just one shot the assasin trying to get on top of him
no. viktor bullies much harder with Q and E. Smolder focuses much harder on late game scaling since Viktor really only needs E and Q evolve but Smolder REALLY needs 225+ stacks.
@IHunter2k 1. Smolder is an AD champ so he has better itemization options 2. He can hard punish tanks better 3. He has a dash whereas Viktor has to wait till his 2nd evolve to get mobility 4. Smolder has infinite scaling, whereas Viktor doesn't Viktor is just a better early lane bully into most matchups, he is certainly not a better scaler.
Hi Shok! 😊 You mentioned in another comment that Smolders playing style is "super demanding on all the fundamentals imo". Wouldn't that mean that Smolder would be good for learning the game as a whole? Haven't you recommended Orianna as a good champion to learn the game because she rewards/teaches good fundamentals? What would you say is the difference? 😊
Yes and no, Orianna and Smolder are both champs that will test your fundamentals, but Smolder will punish you much harder for getting them wrong. I think that would probably just end up being too frustrating whereas at least if you make these fundamental mistakes on Orianna, you still have a reasonable chance to win the game.
Ok Shok but lets actually discuss what D tier means, what I understand is that for the average player it is indeed a bad pick, i try to play only S tier or maybe A tier champions as a guideline of what is actually good in the current patch, you just showed it works tho, but also.. stats dont lie
The stats don't lie and you can filter by higher elos e.g. KR chall and see that Smolder has pretty good success there. His low tier is because lower elo players can't execute the playstyle that's super demanding on all the fundamentals imo
Hey fellas my editor is on holiday so there'll be no fancy edits for a while ;(
That's ok Mr.Shok you're still pawsome!!
Students of the game love this style on videos. The full game and open thought commentary its the tik tok brains the love the silly noises and cut away to memes. I just found your videos so I dont know what edited videos look like but these videos so far I like.
The edited videos mainly just had things like gold difference on bases and some small cinematic intros/outros, wasn't especially invasive
dude if I was playing league and tabbed to see I have a smolder mid with merc treds and glowing mote or whatever I would be sooo mad ngl.
:(
you'd be mad to see they have merc treads when literally 4 out of the 5 enemy champs have CC?
Hi Shok! 😊 What are the reasons for maxing W second instead of E? Lower CD on E would increase mobility and survivability, which seems very important on Smolder. Would you ever consider maxing E second? Merry Christmas! 🎄❤️🙏
I have seen E max a few times, W is a lot more dmg though and I think with good positioning you should be able to manage without E max 2nd, that being said if you feel like you're gonna get multiple Es off and die without them maybe it's good
ty for share this content dude :)
“ Even though syndra has lower cooldowns, smolders’ are actually shorter”
what does this mean
Syndra has short cooldowns smolder has shorter cooldowns
Syndra compared to other/average champ, smolder compared to syndra
Sorry it wasn't that clear but yea Syndra Q is 7s which is pretty short for mid but Smolder's Q + he has autos are even shorter
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I got u pana
I struggled a lot with Smolder against mages, but now I run comet + scorch against them, and I seem to be winning every matchup by poking them out of lane and just punishing cooldowns.
You told me that comet is not really viable, and that I should go fleet instead, but with fleet I feel like I'm always on the backfoot. Merely trying to survive, and not really trying to win the lane.
What do you think of this? Are you underrating comet? Am I just better with the aggressive playstyle? Or is it because I'm only playing Smolder in high emerald and not grandmaster, which makes comet stronger?
I truly feel like I have an answer to every lane now with comet :)
Well I can't say for sure because I haven't used it, but I don't see comet flipping any of the mage matchups into your favor (viktor, syndra, ori etc) so to me it just seems you scale worse for damage in lane that doesn't change bases or anything. If you're having success with it keep using it until you stop having success with it and who knows maybe you'll climb really high
you dont use fleetwork well. no shame really because it is one of the best runes but hardest runes to use correctly. comet just rewards you playing passively waiting for W cooldown and them not dodging and frankly it sounds like youre low elo.
@@zacharyjackson1829 Comet is not a passive rune. I proc it with my Q when I punish their cooldowns. Its a point and click ability that is not dodgeable. Also, my main is master tier, I don't really see how the laning phase is that different on my smolder account xd
New video. Good way to end my night.
I played against viktor and i understand why it should be banned while playing smolder. That was a horrific experience. Almost impossible to trade with an undodgeable E. Is there any chance we can play resolve second to get second wind or jack of all trades is a must?
Probably just play resolve primary, fleet MS won't really help you so you might as well have grasp. But yea this matchup fkn sucks
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Hahha thank you
isnt smolder pretty much exactly like viktor? lane bully that scales super well actively
As an old viktor main and now a smolder otp they are quite different. Smolder has a better wave clear, can avoid gamgs and can move around the map faster but viktor has more raw damage that can carry the team. Even if you are fed as smolder you still will lose a 1v1 against 0 6 yone and can get oneshot in a teamfight if you are not careful but viktor can just one shot the assasin trying to get on top of him
Kinda but less extreme in lane, viktor laning phase is disgustingly strong and smolder is moderately strong
no. viktor bullies much harder with Q and E. Smolder focuses much harder on late game scaling since Viktor really only needs E and Q evolve but Smolder REALLY needs 225+ stacks.
@ funny how viktor is both a better bully and a scaler than Smolder while having a better mid gsme
@IHunter2k 1. Smolder is an AD champ so he has better itemization options
2. He can hard punish tanks better
3. He has a dash whereas Viktor has to wait till his 2nd evolve to get mobility
4. Smolder has infinite scaling, whereas Viktor doesn't
Viktor is just a better early lane bully into most matchups, he is certainly not a better scaler.
Syndra is the worst matchup for smolder after Viktor great video
19:47 flash q is triple
Is Smolder good for a low elo (gold) champion pool? Or is he bad for learning the game as a whole?
He's good but the playstyle is difficult so I'd probably recommend against him
Hi Shok! 😊 You mentioned in another comment that Smolders playing style is "super demanding on all the fundamentals imo". Wouldn't that mean that Smolder would be good for learning the game as a whole? Haven't you recommended Orianna as a good champion to learn the game because she rewards/teaches good fundamentals? What would you say is the difference? 😊
Yes and no, Orianna and Smolder are both champs that will test your fundamentals, but Smolder will punish you much harder for getting them wrong. I think that would probably just end up being too frustrating whereas at least if you make these fundamental mistakes on Orianna, you still have a reasonable chance to win the game.
I just tried ap smolder mid and got a quad!!!, 13/3/3 ❤
i love you shok!!!
Ok Shok but lets actually discuss what D tier means, what I understand is that for the average player it is indeed a bad pick, i try to play only S tier or maybe A tier champions as a guideline of what is actually good in the current patch, you just showed it works tho, but also.. stats dont lie
The stats don't lie and you can filter by higher elos e.g. KR chall and see that Smolder has pretty good success there. His low tier is because lower elo players can't execute the playstyle that's super demanding on all the fundamentals imo
still waiting for tank Akali
G.O.A.T
i love the part where you showed your runes
Not sure if this is a joke but the runes are showing the whole time!
@@ShokLeague you should be showing it at the start of the vid clearly, before going into the game.
@@Acaciuss or you can literally just look at them by his items and not be a sheep needing things read to you
@@zacharyjackson1829 thx for repeating what he said retard
This type of champ makes me afraid of spending time on them. Idk when is Riot gonna flip a switch and banish him from mid.
I think he will be safe for a while
Hahahaha I SUCK at this pick I’m perma 0/5 225 stacks 27 min 😂😂 I’m the goat of auto pushing waves and dying to ganks
Smoge... I had some learning pains too I'm sure you'll find success soon!
Oh video 1 min out, insta click
New video title: Why correct itemization makes shitty AD mids like smolder actuallly work. - Road to Rank 1.
top 3 AD mid = shitty NOTED
what does this even mean? would it be terrible if he played Annie but knew how to build Malignance and Stormsurge? what is this attempt at a roast?