Nissan Pathfinder: Traction Control Kicks On When Turning A Corner - Part I
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In this video I bring you through the process of diagnosing and repairing a 2008 Nissan Pathfinder that is having issues with the steering angle sensor. It's making the traction control kick on when trying to make a turn. -Enjoy!
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"on the go lifestyle"
too good.
The image is classic! Ricardo Montalban with one of those levers sticking out of his jacket pocket....
I work in computer software, and yet somehow you've helped me with finding problems in code. Earlier today I was trying to debug something and went down the wrong path. Thought about what you say, "Stick to your routine diagnosis". Found the problem in 5 mins.
Works 60% of the time everytime!
Spent about 27 years in IT operations, his troubleshooting technique is applicable to many fields. Reminds me of many troubleshooting moments on mainframes, their peripherals, software, firmware and OS. Miss the old days with mag tape and impact printers. I almost miss card readers. Almost!🤣😂
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Lol almost 😂 Just starting out as an intern, hoping to work my way up and one day say I've been in this field for 27 days!
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 34 years for me, plus 14 years in avionics before that. 100% true: jumping to conclusions is often a shortcut to failure.
@@flagmichael started out on Burroughs B4800's with Varian frontend communication processors. Did a little keypunch and a lot of microfiche the first year. Not to sound egotistical, but I was good at it.
In the hospital, had bypass surgery. Still looking for your videos. You are an awesome tech and great source of entertainment.
When I buy a used car, I usually go through and replace all the missing screws (with OE if possible). One mechanic I will never use again gave me a car back with a bunch of screws missing, then told me they were never there. The look on his face was priceless when I showed him my invoice for the OE screws.....
@South Main Auto Repair LLC. Hey Eric, as a Nissan Pathfinder owner I can tell you beside the obvious issue that the car has and you are fixing it, it also I can hear that it has the classic fan clutch stuck on HIGH all the time. Maybe the owner didn't know something it is wrong with it, because it bough it used and it may be like since since she bought it, but I can tell right away the fan clutch it is stock on high and has to be replaced to help the MPG and to keep the car sounding like a garbage truck down the road. Those Nissan fan clutch has the tendency of getting stuck on high due to a rust on the front mounted coil spring that sense the temp. I will let your customer know about it. It is an easy fix and will quiet down the truck BIG time plus help to gain the MPG back.
Nice find I D. I noticed the fan noise too and can't stand those non-thermal fan clutches. The best clutch for a mechanical fan is a thermal type as they completely (or 80%) disengage the fan vs. the other version than simply limit the RPM of the fan when its not hot.
Its an amazon one... I had the same one sent to me and i had to pull the old one apart and solder in the new clock spring into the old housing. The new one didn't have the middle part to turn the angle sensor.. yup yup.
I would love to see a sweater with the caption "SON OF A MOTHER" on it
Son of a beagle!
there's your problem lady
I would rather a t-shirt with a pocket
Can't wait for part 2 of " there's your problem , lady ! "
The problem is it's a Nissan.
@@BigEightiesNewWave A Nissan that has been through hands that don't know what they are doing. Bad news indeed.
@D.R. Lee formerly known as " dat soon "
Eric: So I got these screwdrivers
Gearwrench: 👀
Eric: *uses Gearwrench promo screwdriver for 90% of the video*
Gearwrench: 😍😍😍
And rightly so! GearWrench is good stuff.
@@flagmichael ive always been happy with them
@@flagmichael ZASS
Where can I buy a few
Where can I buy screw driver not in your store
I had some dash work done at the dealer and I don't know how he did it, but I'm fairly certain the technician used his 3/4" impact to reinstall the screws in my dash and trim.
The last time my car was serviced at the dealer I had to use a 1/2 impact to remove the oil pan drain plug. That's the last time it went there.
@@douglasjreynolds sounds like the Yellowstone park service stations ( impact to remove and insert drain plug )
There's your problem LADY...You didn't go to SMA in the first place!!!
Ya DING DONG!!!
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3 people you never lie to...
1. Doctor
2. Lawyer
3. Eric O.
lol 😂
3b (or 2b however you figure it) MRS. O......
I sometimes just listen Eric's videos. Way he talks is so informative and funny.
Part 2! Oh man...this is brutal!
Sometimes you just want to find the previous "mechanic" and clock his spring
Some guys have a few tools, a couple of screw drivers and consider themselves a mechanic. You have just gone behind a couple of 'em. First sign of a fake mechanic is missing screws -- a literal screw loose!
Ya definitely
Man oh man I miss the SMA videos! And I must admit.....the pride you show for your craft is absolutely inspiring. Thank you for taking time out of your day to make these videos!
i believe the previous shop installed the wrong clockspring and what nissan calls a " spiral switch and combination switch assembly". on the pathfinders from 05 and newer those pieces you pulled out, the wipers and indicator switches are integrated and its a complete piece, i learned that when i installed OEM fog lamp kits on a couple of nissan trucks, rogue, frontier, pathfinder...
I just replaced my clockspring last year on my Infiniti ... Nissan is known to have crappy clocksprings and they control so much!
I learned a few new things that's for sure!
That was a quick introduction to the steering wheel and associated mechanisms. Better your that me, Eric.
Giving you free tools with names plastered all over is just smart. If I was watching your vids and saw you missing a tool, sending you one to make your job easier would make me money. That is if I sold that tool.
Most important people you NEVER withhold information from:
1. Doctor
2. Attorney
3. most important of all - MECHANIC!!!
Thus endith the lesson.
Wrong!!!,
1) God!
2) Mom!
3)Doctor
4)Attorney
5)Mechanic
You forgot electrician.
@@PatrickLeeUS " shocking " they would forget that one
I was gonna add your Plumber and Electrician
@@Android_Warrior Don't forget your wife/girlfriend
7 dislikes are from the employees and management of other shop.
Its up to 18 now, must be he hired some new people lol.
Hey kid....here's $5. Go click dislike on as many of this guys videos.....
22 dislikes now. One must be a Dorman salesperson
Wow now I need to buy a gear wrench mini prybar... Thanks Erik O 🤣😋
Where to buy? Mac has them on their site. I have a Mac.
@@prmayner Thanks but id rather not spend an extra 50 bucks because it says Mac... Gearwrench is good enough me!
My friend bought his 2011 Pathfinder brand new it now has 110k miles has been perfect since day one BUT in the last 2 year's if it sits for more then 48 hrs the battery is dead! It's been to 4 Nissan dealerships and 3-5 small shops. They've spent about 4,500$ on it and no one has fixed it yet. They love it still it's in excellent condition garage kept
Are you sure that the Pathfinder didn't have the rare ADS (Automatic Drifting System) upgrade?
Also, as an honorary millennial, I am seriously considering, as part of my on the go life style, if I should start taking my turn signal and wiper stalks with me when I leave my car .
You're seriously considering?! Surely you can't be serious?!
@@markh.6687 Reminds me of the line from Airplane.
2:38 Hey what’s up G 🤣 The Homie Eric 😎
At the beginning of the video I noticed a Buick Roadmaster outside, I hope there is a video coming on that, I love those big old cars.
At least you had a good release, of course we have to wait for part 2 for all to be satisfied. Once again, good job Eric.
The sensor detected that the sensor was defective, and activated a sensor to counteract the imaginary vehicle motion, resulting in a false sensor reading. I think. :) Seeing these new cars makes me think I should buy that 1999 Toyota Corolla I saw at a local dealer. Didn't need all that wiring to steer in 1999.
All the comments make your channel even better...thanks viewers!
Our 2008 Chevy Trailblazer does that! Almost got me killed turning left in front of a transport truck! Had to pull the traction control fuses (both traction and stability). Dealer said it was the steering wheel yaw sensor but no parts were available and once they were I decided it's way more fun to drive without the computer controlling everything, especially in the winter! :)
Don't worry Eric i just wound back the video, the steering wheel was straight. No need to thank me
Eric I've been watching your videos for years and everyone is informative and a learning experience. Just finished up an ATG advanced electrical class. Excellent. By the time I figure it all out will probably be back to horse and buggies. Stay well Artie. Long Island still sucks 👍👍👍
Wow - SMA does a save on crappy work by another shop....what a unique switchiation!
If cars could talk... The other “shop” with the 30 day used car warranty (aka Big Dick’s Used Auto Mart) sent it to his “mechanic” (aka Ugh-ah Doug), down the road who then had his “apprentice” (high school dropout wash boy) repair the horn with a 4’ pry-bar and 2 pound hammer who then somehow managed to screwed up the steering angle sensor. Ugh-ah Doug took his 1” impact and sawsall to the steering wheel and cowl to “diagnose” the SAS but gave up and told Big Dick the horn was fixed and sent it down the road.
Lol
And the result is an insecure car on the road, and a possible interesting case for a lawyer if any accident had occured because of that nasty job!
That's funny but ya cars really would say that
Ugh ah Doug did something wrong too. No one took this vehicle for a test drive before handing it over to the dealership or customer. Duh dum da dum
Thanks you save me , I had same problem, your video was light a shiny light on dark .
Good bless you and all the guys sharing real solutions , you make life easy!!
I have 2008 Nissan sentra with the air bag light on. I tried using the cruise control on the freeway and notice it didn't work. As I did more digging apparently the clock spring goes bad. The radio and other controls also don't work. Sometimes one button does. In short I need to go to the yard and find one but just haven't got around to it. So that clockspring may be it on this one too. Not sure the sentra has that angle sensor. I didn't see anything about that. The dealer wants and arm and a leg so it'll have to wait until I find one.
before cat went full on computer, a typical the hacks pretty much chopped up the wiring,
beats me how anything worked, my job as an HDR/W, schooled with Cat, took a year in electrical mechanical engineering / 101. not being the sharpest butter knife in the drawer,
on the GI-bill, it didn't get any better. schooling through cat in advanced hydraulics and a few other things, all to be an HDR/W. much of my time R&R scraped beds cutting edges. ha.
with all that said, it's all about OEM, I still recall seeing some of those old timers farmers who
got lucky back in the 60-s and early 70's got hook up to dirt jobs, primary tool an adjustable wrench and a big hammer,
for sending 1/2 / 3/4 inch bolts through welded threaded nuts, hammer them home, I asked
a couple of those old timers about that, temperament, couldn't be bothered didn't care,
it only had to last as long as the job, and he would be gone, I spent years
chasing after that short of junk. pretty much all that old cat yellow old iron is gone.
todays automotive, I know nothing but what Eric has taught on, awesome head for this stuff.
at 72years of age, I couldn't even get the plug wire off the spark plugs, added to that, I needed
a new battery for the truck, I had to take the truck to the shop I go to to have them put it in,
the truck is to high for me and the battery was more than I could manage.
my truck be in your shop Eric but for for being on the upper west coast. !
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The Nissan clocksprings come "complete" but need to check the new switches match. I've gotten new ones where the fog light switch was missing and the parts guys said that was the only one clockspring listing and there wasn't a separate listing for a fog light switch. Glad I kept the old parts and the old fog lamp switch still worked so I didn't have to fight that battle with the parts department. Not sure if there are other switch options besides the fog lights either.
Yep, automatic lights, intermittent wipers stuff like that
Low and behold and Wait for Part 2 Check✅!!!; )
Got a giggle from ole mate in the back ground with the 33% line , comedy classic.
as someone who has done something similair on my Nissan 350z i bough a new clock spring from ebay cause it was cheaper and it didnt have a locator pin for the steering angle sensor did exactly the same i bet thats what they did. you live and learn i guess
We build OEM entertainment systems for many of the auto manufacturers. For one we had to add a running motor sound features to drive an external speaker to one of the EV cars. This was the solve the problem that as the car glided along it was ultra silent and pedestrians would step out in front. It's amazing how much we use our ears to keep from getting run over. I tried to talk them into a horse sound but they would have no part of that. So I guess that's relegated to after market.
I don't think our motor sound ever made it to actual production. Too bad. It sounded nice.
What is this, the clock spring channel??
Tomorrow is the big four 1.
Happy, happy, joy, joy
All the nonsense with the clockspring notwithstanding, as a Nissan owner I am pleased to see how modular their design is - Airbag pops out, multifuction stalks click in and out, etc. A lot easier than dealing with 19 different connectors, 11 screws, and needing a special factory tool that only the dealer has.
Hey Mr O, I was getting nervous when your were fondling with the steering wheel airbag and that mini prybar in your hand and the airbag accidently deploying and diving the prybar into you head. I feel confident that you know what your doing but accidents do happen. Please be careful remember safety third.
6:37 you did make me jump lol
Count me in dude🤣
That other garage didn't compare the clock springs and all new parts, you always do :-D
When i take anything apart i observe where everything goes and i take pictures just in case my memory is having a bad hair day, like it often does.
"We won't break them just in case..."
That's something I've got to remember!
Yes you just did a video on this, and the GearWrench pocket screwdrivers were used. Different type car, but it was the clock spring.
At 15:20 it looks like that notch from the clock spring is supposed to engage with the little finger from the steering angle sensor - just the distance is too large.
So it really seems like a wrong clock spring was slapped on there that's for another model and doesn't have the necessary reach to engange with the SAS.
Thanks for viewing
@1:45 Steering angle sensor, or tripple pack sensor (x y and z axis, pitch,roll and yaw).
Your lucky you were able to pull codes. The steering angle sensor on my Tundra shorted out and when it did it crashed the entire CAN network. No scan tool communication at all. All CELs turned on in the dash, the truck started and ran, but all gauges were dead except for the fuel gauge. Took me 2 days to figure out.
Had a airbag light on my QX56, narrowed down to the clock spring. A seasoned Infiniti tech friend said replace the entire stalk (and the cost wasn't that bad either). Now I see why!
Thank goodness a new video. TV sucks!
Don'tcha just love coming behind another shop to "fix it!"
Waiting for part two.
Was that a Vessel Phillips screwdriver? I use the Megadora version, turquoise handle. Nice Japanese tools, cheap to boot. Never knew JIS existed until I saw theirs, and now use them all the time.
I changed the clock spring on my 08 sentra not too long ago so this video would have been very useful too me! Nissans are all kinda similar cars on the inside, especially in the same model year. great vid to drink my morning coffee too be well mr o!
What is the regular retail price of a clock spring? How much is a NISSAN clock spring with the extra parts?
Hey Eric, Its kevin from Bath. Always a pleasure watching you work. Very thorough and precise. Tell Josh he did a great job on the alignment. Car feels tighter than ever. I'm glad you recommended the rear control arms and hardware. I screwed up & only ordered 2 adjusting bolts . Unfortunately I didn't figure that out until the day before I got the parts so I had to wait anther week. I ended up getting the trailing arms through Mitsubishi parts site which ended up being cheaper than Rock Auto. Funny thing though. I happened upon 2 other Mitsubishi parts sites and the rear front control arm with the balljoints were discontinued. I looked on Rock Auto and they had the rear front arm for twice what I paid. Still have to pull the brakes apart as Josh noticed the brakes were dragging. Such is life, the todo list that never ends. Thanks for sharing, Kevin.
"take em' with you for the on the go lifestyle", classic! and ouch! your left index finger looks painful
G'day, Mr. O! Enjoyed the video! (Thank you very much for taking the time - the process of diagnosing and repairing a 2008 Nissan Pathfinder) But, (you know) "Oh fiddlesticks!" (it's like having a cliffhanger) 'To be continued'... Lol! 😉
Cheers! 😊🛠✌🏻❤️
Looks like a cutoff wheel that cut those tabs maybe a Dremel tool? Awesome video Eric always a pleasure to watch another PROFESSIONAL work instead of a hack, keep it up and stay safe and well in these uncertain time
Great video. In my opinion if i had diagd the vehicle i would have reconnected to the CAN bus and monitored the angle sensor signal by manually turning the sensor with the clock spring disconnected.
Am I showing my age if I think of it as a Pathpuppy?
I gotta get one of those GearWrench mini pry bars. They knew what they were doing when they sent you a set!
Amazing work man. I don’t know why I thought it was maybe a damaged ABS wire Behind the front wheel
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ERIC O!
It's "our" birthday today - yours and mine...
I hope Mrs. O and the kiddos treat you well on your birthday... hopefully ICE CREAM is involved! Keep up the great work and SMA videos, looking forward to a Whats Up Wednesday someday...
I'd nickname that car "Lucky" in memory of my old dog. Why? Well, they've both been fixed in the past and still don't work right....
Just love when I have to fix other peoples screw ups! My last 3 days at work were just that!
"on the go lifestyle" got me with that one lol!
before watching: I'm calling either clockspring or seriously wonky alignment. I did full front end refresh on my jeep, got the wheels mostly straight, but the steering wheel was cocked 45 degrees. no biggie, 1 mile drive to the shop on 25mph roads, how hard could it be? every time I had to turn in the direction of the cocked steering wheel, ABS/TC would freak out.
Why do it right when brute force will work!
LOL... That clock spring assy... With the steering wheel and covers off.... It reminds me of the handle bars on a Big Wheel. :D
That’s definitely not an OEM fan! I can hear it roar from south Florida!
Probably had an crash because why else would you need a newfan
Wow finally caught one within the first hour!
As you say Eric O. The plot thickens.
Catch ya on part 2
Enjoy watching and learning ! Thank you for these videos Eric...take care..
I use my pocket screw drivers for everything. I have one with a magnet on the end. Saved my beans more times than I can say. Best. Tool. Ever.
Automatic Traction Control activation when turning corners ? Sounds perfect for winter driving.
Good evening Eric
Hope all is well with the family
yea I went to change out the cabin air filter on my wifes 2016 forfusion and I tell you it was a pain. I actually took off the passenger uner dash air bag without knowing it and when I checked it said what ever you for DO NOT TAKE THE $ BOLTS OUT FOM UNDER THE GLOVE BOX FOR THAT IS THE PASSENGER UNDER DASH AIR BAG...nice for letting me know now. And It didnt go off.........mmmmm wonder if it really works? I didnt under the battery either.
Omg you have helped me soooo much this is exactly my problem
*FIRST DO NO HARM*
IMO that applies to the auto repair profession, just as much as the medical profession.
If my calculations are correct is it your bday Eric O? If so Happy Birthday Brother ✌ Greetings from Los Angeles.
Always a good day with SMA. This video reminds me of the joke about a loose nut behind the wheel.
I've been down that same road in an xterra. The clock spring is quite steep from Nissan because they come with those stalks but there are cheap ebay ones that do not include the stalks... Of course Nissan had three different types, and the ebay ones are a total of one type. So... that's an easy mystery to solve considering there was a 30 day warranty involved. Frankly, if you did concoct something that moves the steering sensor, it does work, for around one year. Don't ask how I know :facepalm:
The Apollo capsule was easier to diagnose than these new cars are , right ?
Confirmation when the panel was seen to be missing!
Well, the people that built and designed it where right there to eagerly help whenever they where needed.
I really enjoy your videos very much. I think your skill and detail are top Notch. Keep up the good work.
First, I never heard of a "" Clock Spring "" till I came here !!!!! I thought - did he mean the steering wheel winds up the dash clock ??????? Come to find out, it has nothing to do with telling time !!!!!! Secondly, there was a rash of brake changing, then a flood of ball joint replacements, with an occasional tire change done....but usually by another worker or Mrs. O. !!! A small spurt of gas tank vent valves, some fuel injectors along with the usual amount of wire rubbings/chaffings !!!! Lots to learn about on a vehicle !!!! But no better place than to be taught here at: SMA center !!!! It's where it is all happening !!!!! I'm holding my breath for part II, so please don't take to long or I'll look like a Smurf !!!!!!!!!!!
Great video Eric O @SouthMainAutoRepairLLC
Grasias por el diagnostico
Nice work 👏 👌
I like watching your beautiful video im from morocco have a good day sir God bless you 💟❤💙💚💛💜
October is imminent and I still don't have an ice cream visit... I want my money back!! oh, wait... there was no money. Well, you know what I mean!!! : )
Now that first sentence is something to which Pedobear will answer "wait, I'm comming with you". Also, not something you want to tell a cop who stops you and asks you where you're heading to. I loled hard.
Oh yea! Love sma video's! Thank you sir
That is what happens when you go to a goat herder that is a mekanic on slow days. Great Job Eric👍👍
I love that intro whit ice cream van