Did Mapping Program Direct Driver Over Collapsed Bridge of Death? | Philip Paxson Case Analysis
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I grew up and still live in this area…this is not the first tragic accident that has happened at that bridge, so sad for his wife and children
Seriously, I want to hear about what else has happened, please.
@@azulgaia7782Me too
Anybody could make barriers -- logs, branches, anything. Don't leave everything up to someone else, or some government entity. Just do it
Exactly!!!! Take it upon ourselves to look out for each other and keep each other safe.
Yeah, thanks for volunteering!
Apparently there was barriers, but someone stole them!
@@Devi_Seonajesus. No. Wrong. The information is RIGHT THERE in the video, and you got it wrong. Jfc.
@@Devi_SeonaRemoved by owners due to repeated vandalism.
While mapping software can't keep up to date on every current road change, it seems that this software was repeatedly alerted to the lack of bridge and potential serious consequences of sending unknowing vehicles down that road. The bridge was out for nine years. This wasn't a recent issue.
OUT FOR NINE YEARS AND ONLY ONE JEEP DRIVING DIPSHIT HAS MANAGED TO KILL HIMSELF ON IT. SOUNDS PERFECTLY SAFE FOR COMPETENT HUMANS FROM CHILDREN TO TEENAGERS TO THE ELDERLY.
And somehow no one managed to die within those 9 years?
@mrsnolasco09 all it takes is one mistake..
The fact that someone alerted them multiple times is enough to put some of the blame on the mapping program. Now that someone has died, they fix it, and that's just proving it was a mistake.
@@honestyisadyingvirtue It is better to make improvements before someone dies or is injured
It was impassable for NINE years?! How was there no warning? Wow thanks for this one Dr G ❤
And I think the GPS company is liable because it was reported to them.
Signs were up in 2019.
He’s Navy and understood situational awareness but not on that day.
He was compromised, I bet from the party.
I hope that Jeep has a black box so forensics can determine those last moments.
I’m not convinced that a Navy guy couldn’t get out of that vehicle if it just dropped off the edge.
It f-ing flew of the edge that was not an incline. He took a risk and tried to jump…why not?
No jury will criminally hold liable anybody or entity.
Civil suit to make it go away. There’s a chance.
Still, he was responsible for his safety. Assume nothing.
It can happen to any of us.
Even the most hyper-vigilant among us gets caught off-guard and it only takes that one moment.
Drive safe, eyes up, be careful everyone.
I live only 1.5 hours away and not heard of this. So sad. Looking at pictures this was easy to do. I think the land owners should have done something to know it was not passable
How are landowners responsible for a public bridge? I don't understand this situation.
Two weeks ago GPS sent us onto a off ramp for a major highway in Guadalajara Mexico . Asking residents of Guadalajara did they have problems with GPS the answer was resounding YES
Google maps used to sometimes show my home address as being 30 miles away from where it really was. That's because the city I'm in refuses to use standard county street numbers and instead has their own numbering system.
@@Mr.Morden but did you walk in someone else's house knowing it doesn't look like yours because Google maps suggested that's where your house was?
@@tracycottrell5146 No way 🤣 delivery drivers are though. Prescription delivery and UPS were the worst cases. Plus an employer that sent mail to me instead of to their employee - the guy living 30 miles away from me with the same house number.
@@tracycottrell5146most likely not because she knows our house in the area where her house is, unlike this poor gentleman who didn't know the area.
@@tracycottrell5146That's different from driving on an unfamiliar road at night in the rain.
Here in Spain is not uncommon to g.maps diverts you to sheep/goat paths, it's unbelievable.
A big pile of dirt on both sides of the bridge would have been a good barrier.
Or would be seen by the courts as an attractive nuisance if kids on dirt bikes and ATVs got hurt using it as a ramp for tricks.
I live here in Charlotte and I can say that the GPS doesn't work well here at all! We have crazy roads a lot with the same name. I never reply solely on GPS , it has led me to dead ends way too many times. That bridge has been washed out for years, and it should of been marked and barricaded! In the dark you can never see it. We have a ton of these private small bridges , and this one was on the news a few times, about how they did not have money to repair it.Very sad.
Senseless and tragic. Easily avoided. Now these children have lost a good father. How expensive are signs to loss of life.
@@rebeccabsomanybooks3558Yes.
I heard about this early this morning. The wife found out that the bridge was collapsed over a decade ago. Maps still guides people twards the bridge. This poor dad was driving at night coming from his 9 year old daughters birthday party. Google sent out a statement but it doesn't bring him back. No amount of the lawsuit has been set. But that poor family. It was at night that's why he didn't notice the bridge.
Coming from an ex bus driver....take anything a gps says with a grain of salt.
I am addicted to your videos. Your logic and humor ground me at whatever point during the day I feel I need a boost from a voice of reason. In this case, I'm not sure about what Philip could see as he approached the bridge. Your calculations of distance, mph and visibility give rise to some culpability on Philip's part but if he had no reason to suspect there was no bridge there, the driving factors should not be held against him. Obviously as a seasoned driver (from what you said his obituary reported) and driving a solid car he had every reason to feel confident to go somewhat faster even in heavy rain if that is what he did. There's just no comparison between driving a bit faster than average in rain and the failure of the landowner, local authorities and Google to make sure a blockade, signage and directions squarely prevented a person from going that route.
This terrifies me, because everybody knows if you don't do what they want, the 'redirecting' (I'm lost now) is endless.
A driver left a bar near my hometown and drove down a wide road that appeared to be safe at 50 mph. She evidently did not pay attention to speed limit signs, which changed to 25 mph upon entering a residential area. Unfortunately that wide road abruptly turns into a narrow bridge which is positioned at an angle to the road direction. Her truck slammed into the concrete on the side of the bridge and flipped into the creek. She was found the next morning, hanging head first into the water from the truck. It was such a tragedy for a young life to be lost. Please drive safely.
very sad. I agree that the state, city or county should've placed and maintained the signage and barriers. The landowners probably allowed an easement for the road and bridge which would relieve them of liability.
Its an aid to navigation, not a substitute for paying attention, as pilot in command, its his responsibility. Hope his Family is ok.
How harsh! It would be impossible to see that the bridge was down when rainy and dark. The poor man didn't stand a chance, his poor wife and children
Speaking facts. People don't like that. Like I commented, and Dr. Grande stated, there is clear debris in front of the entrance and if you're paying attention you easily see that the bridge is out.
@@narcdetester2102it is harsh. I understand it is part of the disclaimer on Google maps.
What a ridiculous comment. It’s not like he knew the bridge wasn’t fixed. There were no warning signs and the bridge looked passable. What was he supposed to be a pilot psychic? And how can the family be ok? Their father, their husband and loved one is gone.
People wouldn’t say the same about an atlas. It’s over reliance on an imperfect system and not a substitute for driver safety. This should be seen as a lesson to others utilizing such technology. Very, very sad nonetheless
Google maps once sit me down a one way highway & I had no idea about a handful of cars came barreling down at me & I, thank God, was able to pull over to the shoulder just in time. Since then, I’ve been *extra* careful when using their instructions.
Having a private road where the public drive is a pretty dumb idea. All public roads should be owned by the government.
Condolences.
We should always be aware of our surroundings and the dangers therein.
Can you analyze the very sad and tragic case of 12yo. Yahushua Robinson who passed away at Canyon Lake Middle School in Lake Elsinore, CA. last month. Who are the physical education (PE) teachers that are responsible for the tragedy.
I would agree that they can't keep track of hazards that are not reported, but they were told at least twice and they use various methods including satellite images to verify conditions and other information.
Google would be a hard company to sue. Wouldnt this open them up to lawsuits from anyone who drives and gets in an accident using their software?
Google Maps is the worst for directing travelers into areas they don’t belong. Contacting Google Maps about anything is near impossible. I’m sad that someone is diseased. I hope Google is held accountable. I also hope that they have to make it easier to contact Google Maps about route corrections.
im loving your cacti candles being lit . . life in the fast lane ehh
Is it possible that he wanted to drive off the bridge? It’s just odd that he found his way there, his wife found her way there and back, and he decided to stay after and clean up, allowing the girls to leave with their mom. Then he went presumably a different way back home than there for some inexplicable reason.
Many other people have driven in that area, but how many went off the bridge? He had headlights and should have been able to see there was no bridge. I’d be interested in finding out about the investigation, but it’s hard to say what he did when he’s not alive. It’s also important to remember that mental illness is real, and sometimes people can seem happy when they’re not.
I wouldn't have seen that at night while it's raining.
Thank you very much...
Road signs and barricades would have made a World of difference. A barricade would be hard to ignore as you drive .
I've driven in unknown areas in the dark and rainy weather. No bridges were involved but there was a lot of road construction. Without those signs I would have been in trouble.
i cant imagine dying in a more embarassingly stupid way. the family must be really desperate. every responsible adult knows that they are responible for their vehicle while theyre operating it.
Very sad and would be hard to see at night for sure
As someone who evaluates car accidents for a living, I totally think Google Maps is liable. They are leading the push for autonomous vehicles based on their mapping technology. They can’t ignore feedback from the public when it comes to road conditions and route changes. Puts everyone in danger.
When I first heard about this incident, I assumed the bridge had just very recently been washed out, and that maybe it was so fresh, the authorities didn't have time to put up a bridge out sign. 9 years! Even if he wasn't going fast, he was probably doomed anyway because his mental model was "there's a bridge here". Bright headlights or not, you dont see what you're completely not expecting. I'm an old AAA map and old fashioned directions guy. I agree with Dr. Grande, don't blindly trust software. But lame on Google for not doing an update in 9 years even after they were notified.
Google should have to accept partial liability - with at least enough responsibility to post caution warnings that their directions may be dangerously flawed. They had been previously notified on at least two occasions that the software needed updated to reflect a hazardous situation!
Speed and alcohol. Maybe.
If the owners didn’t want to repair it, that’s fine, whatever. But if they’re not going to do that they have to put up barricades. They sound like dreadful people too.
If Google Maps sets itself up to be a guide for drivers, then it should respond when someone tells them twice that there is a road that is dangerous. And I agree that those who owned the land should have put the barriers up and are also responsible. Rainy weather was the third factor. How fast Philip liked to drive has nothing to do with it.
When I lived in Wahiawa, Oahu, Hawaii I was trying to go to a beach I've never been to before. The GPS took me to some random open field. It was no where near water yet the GPS had the audacity to say I arrived at my destination. 🥴
So sad..
I agree with the statements in the conclusion, except for "Google is not responsible".
Google was warned several times and corrections were not made.
I've heard many complaints about GPS misdirecting them
I saw this with my son, no tragic results, just an observation of how dependent people are on technology. and fully trust 'technology'
He had a GPS set up, he followed GPS instead of my directions, GPS put many miles on his trip,
but he finally followed my directions of shortcuts and cut the miles.
Just shows this new generation trusts technology more than family members.
If we follow your logic than it's your fault your son doesn't trust you!
nah, google isnt to blame. would you blame a paper map for showing a bridge thats down? them kids rely on their paper maps too much!
no, google maps is far too large to find every single little thing on earth at all times.
it is your responsibility when using a map to look ahead of you and watch where youre going.
@@danae-rain3019 OR my son takes after his Dad and grandfather who think women don't have a brain, their only use is in the kitchen and bedroom. We still live in a Man's world, even after years of the Women's liberation movement.
Weird, my house burned down in 2020. Google updated the photo within 3 months
Love your work Dr. Grande! Could you review the case of Lt. Joe Gliniewicz of the Fox Lake, IL Police Department?
Were any toxicology tests performed on Phillip ?
He might have been pissed up on booze.
The way his car landed makes me believe he tried to jump the distance and failed.
Being on a trip myself and having tons of boo boo's with direction and Google maps, I'd say chances are good it was a mapping error.
Do mapping programs have a legal responsibility to prevent this? If so, I'd like to sue them for all those times they messed up.
Google should add road conditions like this to the same "alert system" they have for speed traps.
@@Sputterbug ....which isn't nearly the same as a "Danger ahead" or "Bridge down" alert so... No, they don't have an option for road conditions *like this.*
how about using your eyes to see if the bridge is out
Why wouldn't the owner fix the bridge?
If the road wasn’t private, how could the bridge be?
This is a sad case. It is difficult to drive at night and in rain. I feel the owners should have a barricade. This is a sad case.
What was his BAC at the time of the event. Why is toxicology not mentioned. He left a house party so I’m suspicious
Maybe they could place barricades that are connected into the ground,Someone should contact the officials with that idea.
My heart goes out to his family. I think Google should be somewhat responsible considering they were notified a few times prior to this incident that the bridge was out and not being replaced. However, Google has all the money in the world to pay for top flight attorneys so I don’t they’ll lose.
I’m amazed the local city/county didn’t force the land owner to put up permanent barricades.
I rarely use google maps unless finding a location in a city. I've been led to seasonal roads and along back roads that were off the main route. I still prefer my paper maps when possible.
First thing I think about when reading the title is that one episode of the office…
I agree but Google had years to change it AND it was brought to their attention.
The catch phrases doesn't make sense in some videos. "I'm not diagnosing anyone in this video..." Well duh. Who would be possible to diagnose here exactly?
A few years ago my family rented a cabin in the NC mountains for Christmas weekend and the GPS would've sent me straight over a cliff if I'd followed it. Luckily we were traveling during the day and realized before our vehicle reached the edge.
Good grief 😮
Wow 🤦🏽♀️. I'm officially afraid of GPS
New fear unlocked
Jesus
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In my opinion, there should have been barriers so no one could cross the collapsed bridge. May Philip rest in peace, and sending my condolences to his family.
He did say they were removed due to vandalism. Country folks got nothing better to do. The good honest people pay the price for works done in darkness.
No one could cross a collapsed bridge anyway, barriers or not.
I wonder ... do people actually use their eyes for things besides social media? I kind of thought not seeing the bridge extend to the other side would be a huge clue not to cross, but I guess not.
@@Deploracle It was a small bridge, or gap rather, it was dark and the weather was terrible. Most people are not looking out for massive gaps in the road they're travelling on.
@@It-is-me...Melsie I do, if I have never been on a road before. I don't want to be "that guy" who was caught out by a surprise. Safe driving is as much to be with anticipation of danger as it is to avoidance of danger.
@@YouilAushana It's ridiculous to remove barriers due to vandalism. They should have been left there until something better was arranged to replace them. At no point should there have been a sheer drop on a road that can be accessed by the public. I'm sure whatever vandalism had taken place still had more value than clearing them out completely. Even a vandalised and unsightly barrier can be made/kept functional. The county concerned will be taken to the cleaners on this - and deservedly so.
I agree that the responsibility falls on those who installed/removed the barricades. They could have at least put up reflectors.
On a dark, rainy night, I could see someone not seeing that the road was out. Add in the fact that there are no streetlights, and it would really be hard to tell. I hope his widow prevails on her lawsuit.
Totally agree ! I live in a rural area and our roads are not lit. In the rain , by night I can barely recognize roads that are otherwise very familiar to me. Driving in country roads, by night, under heavy rain is just hell.
Y WOULD U GO DOWN SUCH A ROAD FOR REAL FOR REAL??? iM SURE he didnt go that way before!?!?!?
Oh they're going to get money from someone. Google will probably settle.
What a shame. At least his kids weren’t with him.
Kids are more valuable than the husbands?
I would say yes
@@diannew6066 lol that's what you get out of that comment? I don't believe in a god but I wil pray for you man.
@@diannew6066If the kids were with him then they would've died too and multiple deaths is worse than one
I know, poor fella 😢. Seemed utterly preventable too.
Any collapsed bridge/roadway should be blocked permanently! It’s irresponsible to leave it wide open. It is a reasonable assumption that any open roadway is safe to use.
digging a trench across the road would have made it permanently impassable
Exactly. You don't expect a road to just disappear. It should have been blocked with reflective signs.
Yeah they could even use movable cement blocks they use for highway construction barriers...
Very sad to think Phillip lost his life over neglect of a barricade or sign. 😢 maybe he was travelling to fast but I feel if these safety measures were place in place the outcome would have avoided this tragedy 😢
No, he lost his life because he was a moron. He's the reason there are instructions on shampoo and people eat Tide pods; good riddance and it's a shame he spawned more dumb asses before life took this loser out. @@wanya_telborn
This is a sad tragedy.. But I cannot stop thinking about when Michael Scott drove Dwight and himself into the lake because his GPS told him to.
That was my first thought, God forgive me.😢
D’oh, beat me to it!
1. Saw the thumbnail
2. “Ill just go to the comments and search for it”
🤣💀
Its shocking how obedient people can be to Google maps. I have learned, from experience, not to trust it lol. Once in New Mexico we were trying to get to a tourist attraction for the petroglyphs. The dang Google maps was taking us off road, we had 4 wheel drive, down a dirt road. At first it wasn't obvious that Google was wrong.... till we drove past a burnt mattress and piles of beer cans and bottles lol!
Bottom line: don't rely on ANY map or GPS to keep you safe. Use your eyes. Read signs along the road if any. Ultimately, you are responsible for yourself. This includes self driving vehicles.
Facts, the app is only meant to assist you, not guide you
Back when I used paper road maps - whether book-style road atlases or accordion-folding AAA maps 🗺️ - I was far more cognizant of street geography, terrain layout, etc., often knowing various routes, landmarks, & neighborhood geography by heart. When everyone switched to GPS-based navigation systems I think many of us were lulled into becoming overly trusting in and reliant upon technologies that we have been conditioned to see as superior to our senses, memories, and processing skills, which exemplifies the functional losses that you see across the board as our society turns more & more ‘wired.’
"I don't want to do all that work. Just tell me where to turn" - modern American
There are many apps. As a hiker and kayaker i find them super detailed and fairly accurate. Just choose the right app
@@DeploracleMental laziness. If you think it's gotten bad, wait until AI is common place.
Thomas Guides
And pulling over to get directions from a gas station.
Goggle has misdirected me many times, I never trust it 💯 Sad case for sure. Barricades or a sign should have been put back up. Thanks Dr G😊💕💕
Your cacti collection is coming along nicely! I particularly like the new lighted ones. Thanks for your content, Dr. Grande!
TRUE STORY: Last year I was driving to Arizona with my daughter and Mother. We got there no problem, when we were returning home to Vegas it was dark. The GPS sent me on a route that seemed different. It had me get off the highway, make a left then it instructed me to turn right. The problem was when I was told to turn right it wasn’t a street, but a dark dirt area. As I went down the area for about 5 seconds, I felt something was wrong so I turned around and went back on the highway until the system recalculated and got us home. Keep in mind there was no way we would have been able to get home from where the GPS was sending me. I have no idea what was down that dirt road, but I felt that if I kept going we would have fell down a cliff. The drive from to and from Arizona from Vegas is full of cliffs.
glad u made it home safe with your family 🫶🏻
Our GPS sent us over a mountain road coming back to LA from Santa Maria, CA. Scary !
Glad you trusted your gut! I had GPS that wanted to send me into the Atlantic Ocean!
A literal horror movie omg 😂😅
You said that it was dark and rainy that night, which may have limited the visibility. He was probably going too fast for the conditions.
The fact that there was barricades up at one point, shows that people knew there should be some because it was dangerous. Not putting them back up was laziness or being cheap. Very tragic that he died horribly like that. Condolences to his family.
When they said they were removed due to vandalism I suspect they were stolen (yes people especially college kids steal this crap and it’s stupid; someone literally stole the stop sign in my neighborhood recently and I’m peeved). And depending on if there was a history of them being stolen they might have eventually gone screw it. Or maybe didn’t even realize the precautions were gone again.
@@mfoco1 This wasn’t trespass, though. It was a road available for public travel. Likely there was an easement or some legal contract in place.
@mfoco1 That is as it should be. I'm sorry to say the private land owners who erected a bridge for the "public" to use were inviting problems. Once you provide a 'service', it becomes implied that you will maintain it, and unless posted otherwise, the public would assume a bridge is a government structure. The land owners should have cut off access to any of their property from the start, to avoid any liability. If they personally needed a bridge, it should have been restricted (gated) access, not public. "No Trespassing" notices are for the benefit of all.
My sincere condolences to the family, regardless of the circumstances.
Don't feed the idiot trolls, y'all...
Google is not your absolute, all-knowing navigator.
Take some responsibility planning your A to B.
Oh, this definitely happens! Story: My commute to college was on average a 50 minute drive, and I always enjoyed finding alternate routes on the GPS to keep things fresh. One morning, I decided to try one that was all VA/WV country backroads. Well, the paved 2 lane road became a 1 lane dirt road, which petered out into a muddy swamp in the middle of a hayfield. It took all my '89 Honda Accord's might to back out of that thing. Bad GPS!
Same thing has happened to me lol. But it was kinda scary because for me it was a snowy hill that kept getting steeper, and by the time you saw the really steep part, it was already impossible to turn around! 😱. Luckily my sister, I, and my truck all survived but I will never fully trust Googlemaps again.
Old Accords are the best little cars
Why wasn't it fenced off to prevent people from plunging over the bank?
If someone had made a complaint to the county, they are, like you said, responsible for public hazards.
Well now I have a new fear.
A new caution!
It sounds like it was dark, snowing, and he was tired. Most people would assume dangerous broken bridges to be blocked off and I can't imagine how easy it would be to see that it just goes down and drops off. People obviously just didn't give a fat F about literally doing anything with the bridge not even putting up a fence so kids don't fall in... kinda ridiculous to me
@@sweatergod5386It wasn’t snowing… it was raining.
Drive slowly and cautiously on unfamiliar roads, especially if it’s raining, especially if you’re tired, and never take an app to be 100% accurate. Trust your five senses more than anything else.
At 11pm he was probably tired and in a hurry to get home. Rest in peace Phillip.
Locals knew the bridge was out and the issue probably slipped to the back of their minds and was forgotten. It's a area that only gets local traffic, so it's understandable that it wasn't a pressing issue on anyone's mind.
Nonetheless, the landowners should have done something, anything to block off the road.
@@mfoco1it might not be their responsibility but if you know the city is not doing it and you know it could cause a death, then why not do it?
honestly im wonder how he didnt see the bridge was down before he crossed it. maybe it was too dark outside.
regardless, the local gov shouldve repaired the bridge by now. seems typical of a small town not to put money into anything useful. i hope the family sues the city.
also after rewatching it, i disagree that it isnt their responsibility. its on private property. they opened it for public use, its still their property. if you open private property to the public, youre responsible for upkeep. its not tresspassing if they tell everyone they can use it
@@Sputterbug especially if that road is on Google maps. It then makes it both private and public.
It shouldn't have been too expensive for the local county or whatever to drop a couple cinder blocks, the giant ones they use for highway dividers.
Google has been good about updating map suggestions I've made. I wonder why Google never updated it
Yes, I've updated store business hours and ph# out of frustration at arriving to a closed restaurant and the next week the hours and phone number were corrected.
The silly restaurant had printed paper signs on the door but never corrected online or on Google.
I can't believe there wasn't any cones or some sort of warning after 9 years?
During the 9 years the owner had barricades put in but some vandals removed it. Not sure for how long the barricades had been removed but at least 2 years.
That GPS program has instructed me more than once to turn the wrongway on one-way streets. The direction on these city streets were laid out decades ago.
In my neck of the woods every winter people used to get mapped over Mt. Hood forest service roads in the winter. Astounding how a person in a passenger car could get onto a lane and a half wide road of virgin snow and keep going until buried.
Perhaps not all, but some of these incidents are due to the settings on Google maps. People can choose different options, like if they are 4 wheeling or want a scenic drive not using main highways, then they forget to readjust the settings. That is what happened to the elderly couple who attempted to drive over the Sierra Nevadas on a non maintained forest service road in winter in an RV. They got stuck and one perished.
I was in a truck following gps, figuring that the road would get better in a bit. I think I was in a creek bed! It was only a mile or two, but that’s a long way to bushwhack with a truck.
@evelynwaugh4053 And sometimes the bloody app just switches to footwalking or bike when you start a route, without choosing it. I get this every now and then. I have no idea why sometimes it just assumes why I'd hike or bike for 30 kilometres, but hey. You then have to go back and choose by car, but I imagine if someone doesn't notice that it's switched to bike it can lead people to odd paths.
I use Google Maps while driving but I also look outside my windshield while driving.
well it was dark and raining. i doubt he could see it. that being said, if i was coming up on a bridge, id slow down. i hate bridges
Yes, I find the windows to be very helpful when I'm out driving. 😁
This reminds me of a case filed many years ago where a driver and his wife following GPS went off a bridge (Cline Avenue Bridge) that was closed. The driver survived but his wife didn’t. The main difference is that there were multiple barriers, but the driver went around them.
oooff well thats very sad but very easily avoided. Who the heck would go around barriers thinking thats a good idea?!
Was he investigated?
In Australia, Google LOVES sending me down narrow dirt roads. Once it sent me down a dirt road that came to an end, clearly labeled as CLOSED. I had a large trailer on, it wasn't fun. It is entirely possible that the only interest Google has in mapping software, is to track your movements...but that's just a conspiracy theory. Wink.
If anything this does show how hooked and reliant we all are on technology. I willing to bet he was staring at the maps app and didn't notice the bridge gone. In another time anyone in car would have stopped far short before even coming close to the river edge.
This is so sad. Poor guy. His family needed him. Condolences to his wife and children.
When I first moved to this location in central PA maps provided me a faster route option to a town/city that initially look liked a nice paved highway but quickly turned into a gravelly pot holed nightmare. I was able to turn around, if I had broken down nobody was going to come and find us and it was a no cell service area.
I bet that was traumatizing
Yeah lol I'm in rural central NY and Google has taken me some crazy places. Once I got stuck on this muddy logging road with my truck and horse trailer and a farmer had to pull me out with his tractor 😂. I was buying hay from him so it was worth his while, but it was still pretty embarrassing lol.
Never trust Google maps
If the bridge was on private property, its safe to assume the roadway was also private. No government agency was responsible for it yet google maps considered it public access. Just seems odd a private drive could be used as direcrions on google maps
Yes, I was wondering, too, is the road on property that's public, or private?
It should be one or the other, but it seemed to be murky.
Seems everyone just wanted to pass the buck as far as taking responsibility for the bridge.
Who leaves a collapsed bridge there for a decade?!
Since Google was told twice that the bridge was washed out, and were provided with confirmation, I believe a LOT of the responsibility rests with them. They were told and did nothing about it.
This! I 💯 agree! They had prior knowledge.
Why didn’t the county or the state have the area barricaded? They could’ve installed signs with reflective lights. Seems so simple to have avoided.
I believe the owner had a moral obligation to maintain the bridge. New barriers should have been put in place.
Yeah why not just put orange bollards in the way?
@@LoCatherine-vx5yj- because stupid people like to take stuff for fun. "Hey, look at those cones. Wouldn't it be cool to take them home and put them up in our driveway?".
My condolences to his friends family and loved ones. This is all very sad.
I rely on my own navigational skills. I was always a good geography student and was able to read maps. To put it another way I trust my skills better than what comes up on Google maps. I have seen too many mistakes on this app.
Mapping software is great but it’s not your absolute navigator. You and/or your capable passengers are. Everyone who uses maps has hit a snag now and then. It’s a convenience, not a guarantee.
Just the title of the video gave me the chills everywhere! Such a horrific thought💔
Thank you! Whomever owns this property is the one liable for the death because they failed to put up barriers to the bridge. Google Maps and other GPS services are known to be unreliable when it comes to road closures and detours.
I agree but think that Google maps is partially responsible.
He got to the party safely. Why not take the same route going back home? Also, were the Road Closed signs no longer there? The county really should have put up a barricade. Regardless of who’s at fault, it’s a terrible tragedy. My heart goes out to the family.
Maybe he deliberately tried to jump the creek ala the Dukes of Hazzard.
He was new to the area and it was dark. Perhaps he couldn't remember the way he'd come.
@@jbinmdwhat a heartless, dumb comment.
Maybe he followed his wife to the party because she knew the way.
If you hit traffic, google will reroute you
I agree. When this case first started I wondered why no barracades!! Years ago in TX some teens stole a stop sign and were tracked down and prosecuted with prison time when an accident happened and someone died.
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Honestly this story is scaring the bejeezus out of me. I feel terrible for the poor guy and his daughter.
Man this is unfortunate, I have gotten stuck in some pretty bad rainstorms and its hard to see what's in front of you and whether the road is flooded or just wet. That being said, I always creep along or ideally go back to where I was coming from to wait out the storm.