Watching *Gilmore Girls'* Most Excruciating Episode
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@halloweenallyearround4889 Its a joke related to my GG Fanfic video.
Honestly everyone ruining Rorys alone time and it bugs me because I need down time away from people.
she could've made them go away but didn't.. it's on her tbh 🤷
@@petraracki5981 I guess but Paris invited herself in
Jess didn't listen to her when she told him to leave. Paris didn't listen to her when Rory said she wanted to be alone. So tell me how are they going to listen to her the second time when she said no. @@petraracki5981
@@petraracki5981How does a girl *make* a guy go away, when she’s practically alone in the house? She’s sixteen, he’s blatantly ignoring her clear discomfort (and clear-enough statements) about him being there, her own boyfriend doesn’t take “I want Friday night to myself” for an answer, Paris already guilt-tripped her into not enforcing her boundaries, and Lorelei’s too busy trying to be Rory’s sassy “best friend” who teases her about doing laundry on a Friday night to actually teach her how to stand up for herself (or to call for a neighbor’s help if a guy’s being too pushy).
The Gilmore Girls have been taught, down the line, to avoid direct confrontation or aggression at all costs, and to value keeping a boyfriend/fiancé/husband/random guy at a bar more than making *herself* happy or comfortable. Rory’s already learned to be on edge around Dean from early on (the guy literally got mad and dumped her in season one because she didn’t want to say “I love you” after just three months). The fact that Lorelei took *Dean’s* side in that matter, instead of encouraging Rory to trust her own boundaries, is exactly why Rory can’t kick Jess or Paris out when they’re either guilt-tripping her or blatantly ignoring her objections.
@@petraracki5981 she tired to make Jess leave several times but he didn't listen and when as Paris ever listened to Rory.
Lorelei: Rory would never steal
A certain yacht: 👀
Also, in season 1, when she plays golf with Richard, Rory steals a towel from the club.
Don't forget the cornstarch from Dooses in season 1
OMG you and @merdelune9 are both right! Miss Gilmore actually has quite the rap sheet 🧾👀
@@distortedfuzz 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Thank you for having a sane response to how Jess was a boundary-crossing looooser and Rory totally entertained it. It boggles my mind that people act like Dean was some random rage monster when he was being constantly lied to and gaslit (and clearly said he wasn't mad about Rory taking space for her weird laundry hobby, and immediately offered an unprompted apology for yelling.)
Yeah this is why Dean dumping Rory is one of my favorite scenes ever.
@@MusicIsMyAeroplane09probably not the point you were trying to make but thank you for actually acknowledging that Dean dumped Rory. It infuriates me in s4 when Lorelai said that Rory dumped him for someone else, when every time they have broken up it was Dean dumping Rory. He did it in season 1, again in season 3 and then again in season 5. Not once did Rory break up with Dean, whether that be a good thing or a bad thing.
@@JessehNotBovverdNo she broke up with him when they had the affair and then he got divorced.
@@jclyntoledo hmm, I don’t exactly agree but I can see where you’re coming from. Considering he never left Lindsay while Rory immediately left the country after they slept together, I don’t exactly count that as a “break up”.
Bit of a different scenario than them dating and him breaking up with her first because she couldn’t immediately say she loved him, then when he got jealous over her and Jess, then again when he saw her having fun at her grandparents and felt inferior.
Dean did have anger and control issues to begin with. He got all weird about Rory and Lorelai’s views on gender roles during that one movie night, dumped Rory for not saying “I love you” fast enough, got mad at her again when he drove to Chilton to see her after the break-up and saw that one Chilton guy being a boundary-crossing jerk to her, got all hurt that she wanted to spend a Friday night alone (“weird” or not, laundry or otherwise, the girl has a right to spend Friday night alone, and his “I’m not mad” didn’t ring genuine at all, considering she felt the need to promise him all of Saturday as a peace offering), and his “apology” for yelling at her later was just more of the same. He said it so flatly and without meeting her eyes, it was clear he didn’t intend to actually deal with the deeper issues beyond saying “sorry.”
I honestly don’t blame Rory for lying about Jess having only just stopped by, instead of admitting she wasn’t able to be more assertive about turning him away (best case, Dean might’ve done a proto-season-three and gone actual Jets vs. Sharks on Jess, and Rory seriously just wanted a quiet night alone this whole episode). Dean and Lorelai both gaslit her into saying “I love you” to him by the end of season one, and Lorelai certainly doesn’t demonstrate long-term boundary-setting in her own relationships, so of course Rory’s first impulse was to try avoiding a confrontation altogether by saying Jess only dropped off the food.
The fact that Dean was the same way with Lindsey (and yes, Rory was 100% wrong to cheat with him), gaslighting his own wife when she almost caught him cheating, shows there was always a (tm) behind his Nice Guy act.
Paris is a beast, she is definitely capable of getting As in gym. There's an episode with a fencing match between Paris and Rory. I see her bringing that energy to any sport she plays 😂😂😂
Nah she would get her butt kicked every time cause no one would put up with that.
And her aggressiveness would get her kicked off the team.
“Putting on lipstick to go eat - what??” LOL yes, I, and other women who enjoy wearing makeup, do, in fact, apply our lipstick before going out to eat 😂
If you think early Rory is unlikable, you are not making it through this show
I disagree. I find her incredibly unlikable and Gilmore Girl's is one of my favourite shows and I've watched it more than anything else
@@Harri_James I still loved Rory at this point, so I can't imagine how annoyed he'd be throughout the seasons. I meant he wouldn't make it through the show sane, emotionally. You have to watch it though, its just too good😂
@lunaballesano6410 sorry misread your comment and missed the word early. Definitely in my first watch through I liked early Rory. It'd only on repeated watches that issues with early Rory became more apparent to me
@@lunaballesano6410I'm having trouble understanding how anyone can love Rory
At this point, she was basically Lorelai to me, only more disciplined and inexperienced in life. I dont remember her being a bad person in the earlier seasons at all. I found her very considerate, charismatic and likable@@radhiadeedou8286
A big reason Dean is so upset is that, Rory's been weird with Jess a lot already. It's extremely obvious to everyone that Jess likes Rory. It's also becoming clear that Rory is starting to like him back and it's been breaking Dean's heart. He's so afraid she'll leave him for Jess and that's a reality that's not too far off.
Wow so Rory was being a typical teenager who likes someone else while going out with Dean. Shocking
@@lauriecarson6483people can still be upset
@@Aly_224 a big duh. But his temper gets him all the time. I don't understand how Dean fans don't see how he acts. For a 16 year old he gets mad real quick.
I do enjoy the moments when they have genuine mother-daughter moments.
"Jess is a loser!" I think this was my favorite reaction of yours to this show so far. 😂
Have you seen 3x19 "Keg! Max!" yet? I can't remember but based on remarks you've said, I don't think you have. You definitely should.
oh no, the forbidden scene
I have not yet
@@notthemovieplease, react to Keg! Max! I’ve been waiting for that reaction for months 😂
I feel obligated to give a trigger warning for that episode. Jess didn’t do anything that would get him convicted, but he crosses some consent lines.
This is my favorite episode! There should've been more Jess and Paris. Thanks for this so early in the morning ☕
Upset we didn't get more Jess and Paris and aldo upset we didn't get the deleted scene from this episode where Paris talks about him with Rory afterwards and tells her she gets why she likes him.
@@Harri_James I do vaguely remember that happening! I think I was watching the DVDs, and that scene was in the extras or something
@@Harri_James That reminds me of a scene where she told Paris what was good in a boyfriend and Paris thought she was talking about Dean but Rory was really describing Jess.
@@Harri_JamesThat scene was deleted?! I could have sworn it was in an episode.
@jclyntoledo I literally only know it exists because it came up on my tiktok recently
It’s so rare to see someone bashing Jess. 🤣
People are team Jess because Rory and Jess are cut from the same cloth, not because Jess is a better person than Dean.
As a teen girl, if I had been put in this position I probably would not have known how to handle it any better than Rory did.
And as far as dancing with another man, it can be innocent as Lorelai said or it can be torrid as it was for Emily because she knew what he wanted and she was surprised that she wanted it to. Lorelai should have respected the kind of woman her mother is but it was up to Emily to make the right call for herself.
I’m diving too deep into this episode.
One final thing, Kelly Bishop, the actress that plays Emily Gilmore, was in Dirty Dancing and I always loved seeing her dance at the end of the movie. She’s a Tony Award winning actress and dancer and I think the line, “I don’t dance” is meant to be a quippy nod to her career.
12:14 yes, that is the only thing Jess did, all the time. He was the worst. And then, when he finally was with Rory, he treated her like shit constantly... he seriously was THE WORST!
Why would you stay open when people are working on the ceiling/floor above your tables? Wtf? Hahah
Omg, that’s ME!!! Ah!! Thanks for taking my recommendation (and for saying my name correctly!!)!!! ❤❤❤❤
You're welcome.
I’m so tired of everybody judging and scrutinizing the ppl on this show. It’s gone too far and it’s suffocating the joy out of it. They’re just ppl which means that they’re gonna be messy and do morally dubious stuff sometimes and they fail like real people. Maybe they aren’t supposed to be perfect role models for us. Maybe they’re just very human people 🤷🏻♀️ I don’t need 10,000 2-hour long think-piece RUclips videos by internet randos on how Rory is the poster child for the disappointing millennial and a symbol for the death of the American dream in the 21st century. It’s ultimately just a story about a girl and her life. If you want squeaky clean morality, watch Pollyanna. But idk, I think the internet would also find a way to make her messy too 🙄🙄
Well, there's no joy in watching people trying to cheat, but I get what you're saying.
Well now I want Pollyanna take-down video 😂 I knew she was no good!
Simply solution for you - choose not to watch it if it infuriates you so much 🤷♀️
Oh I agree the constant hate on Rory is so annoying and everyone gets excuses. It's getting pathetic.
@@notthemovieI think she’s speaking for all the people who have loved this show but are aware of the imperfect characters and situations. I love this show but at the same time I acknowledge the messed up stuff & I was def disappointed in Rory on more then one occasion 😅 I do agree with her that the videos out there that are 2-4 hrs long analyzing the negatives of this show is getting insane to a ridiculous degree tho. This does not include yours in my opinion as it’s just a reaction & you haven’t experienced it like most people. Hope this input helps.
I kind of feel bad for Emily in this episode. She wants to be closer to her daughter but doesn’t know how to and her stuck up snobby ways get in the way.
She manipulates Lorelai into going with her. Then talked all the way. Im with Lorelai why can't Lorelai just relax and enjoy the message.
This is like a boiling point episode that had a lot of build up. And many don't seem to understand how people pleasers work.
The episode descriptions in the title are getting more and more creative 😂
Why does everyone think Emily doesn't love and care about Lorelei? It's obvious she does immensely. She just has flawed methods just trying to reach her estranged daughter. Lorelei actually pisses me off the way she treats her mom. She is selfish and doesn't even acknowledge she tries to connect with her or see her perspective. Grow up Lorelei your not 16 anymore!
Yeah, that's one of the things I appreciate about Emily's character. They make it clear that she loves Lorelai like crazy but their differences make it to where they constantly fail to connect. She has no idea how to express love for Lorelai in ways Lorelai can appreciate, and Lorelai can't really express love to Emily either. It's like they are speaking two totally different languages and resenting one another for failing to speak the language they each prefer. Lorelai carries a lot of hurt from feeling neglected and controlled as a child, and Emily carries a lot of hurt from when Lorelai ran away. But Emily one hundred percent loves Lorelai more than anything, even though she never really figures out how to show that. (Although, actually, I think she came really close when she offered to buy that farmhouse for Lorelai and Luke as a wedding present. She made it so clear that she had really put a lot of thought into what Lorelai would enjoy about the house. It was the one time I can think of when she really seemed to try to see from her daughter's perspective.)
@@thatjillgirl I concur well put:)
That is why I didn't like Jess and so many girls loved him..he was not a good guy. When they dated he was awful also. I liked Dean until he was married to Lindsey. He was a good boyfriend to Rory.
AGREED! i get ppls dislike of dean once he did that to lindsay but before it and esp when they prefer jess i don’t get it at all jess was never a good guy, maybe once rory was dating logan but even then he was once again willing to get between rory’s relationship
@patriciaramirez2982 totally agree! I'm always super confused by it. Plus, I think once they brought Jess on they started making Dean out to be a dumb jock when that's not how he seemed initially to me.
Totally agree!!! Yes Dean having an affair obviously horrible but he was such a good bf to Rory, she was horrible to him
I do feel a lot of what Jess does is glossed over and was actually shocked on my first rewatch as an adult to see how bad a boyfriend he was. I definitely don't agree that Dean was a good boyfriend, though. They do massively dumb him down and emphasise his bad traits in season 2 to make Jess look better, but there's red flags in season 1 as well. The car, at best, is a massively over the top and inappropriate gift for someone you've been seeing 3 months, and at its worst could be interpreted as love bombing. He gets angry when Rory isn't ready to say I love you back, and she initially doesn't handle it very well, but she was caught off guard and panicked. I do feel she handles it well when she explains to him she just wants to make sure she means it when she says it because of the weight it carries and even goes so far as to explain that she finds it difficult to say because her parents said they loved each other but then didn't end up together and he still breaks up with her for not saying it.
Also, while he has reason to he jealous of Jess because Rory does like him, she has no interest whatsoever in Tristan romantically and yet Dean is constantly jealous and possesive around him and gets angry at Rory, as if she is responsble for Tristan liking her. Dean should trust his girlfriend. Instead he feels the need to chaperone her Romeo and Juliet rehearsal and stop her from kissing Tristan despite it being part of the play (and yes Tristan goads him but if he actually trusted and listened to Rory then he would know Tristan is just being an ass) (also yes I know Rory and Tristan kissed but this only happened because Rory was vulnerable having been broken up with the day before, she regrets it immediately and turns down all of Tristan's advances afte that...also Dean never actually found out the kiss so like his crappy behaviour isn't based on that)
Also, in this episode, he gets angry Rory wants time to herself and also disrespected her wishes by still coming over, regardless of the Jess stuff she said she wants time alone and yet he calls and says that hes coming over. Later in the season when he notices Rory isn't wearing his bracelet instead of just asking why she's not wearing it, assuming it could be for any number of acceptable reasons his response is anger before Rory even has a chance to answer. She shouldn't lie about losing it, but when he gets angry, just noticing she doesn't have it on, of course, she's afraid to say she lost it. When he starts to worry that she likes Jess and is becoming distant he becomes possesive to the point of calling and leaving 14 messages in the span of 2 hours (he also mentions in the messages that he pages her as well). He also breaks up with her at the dance marathon in front of the whole town, humiliating her and yet when she is dating Jess he still is posessive of her - telling Jess to watch his back because this is his town (which lol, no its not, you're from Chicago and only moved here a year before Jess) and telling Jess he and Rory are just friends just like Rory and Jess were just friends - insinuating that Rory will break up with Jess to get back with him. Then, when they fight at Kyle's party, Dean starts it by punching Jess. Yes he saw Rory was upset and yes he saw Jess caused it (and what Jess did was terrible but Dean doesn't know what happened and doesn't wait to find out any context) but starting a physical fight is not to help Rory, she's actively telling them to stop the whole time because she does not want that. He does purely out of his own anger and dislike of Jess.
Those are just examples off the top of my head, there are more times he is unreasonably angry over little things and is posessive. Honestly his treatment of Lindsey when they're married is downright abusive but the hallmarks and signs of it were all there in his relationship with Rory as well and if he married her instead I imagine he would have treated her just as badly as he did Lindsey.
Also, just to be clear, I'm not saying how Rory treated Dean was okay, she treats him badly too but that doesn't justify Dean's treatment of her either. All of Rory's boyfriends suck and treat her pretty badly, but Dean's behaviour is actively frightening on multiple occasions
@Harri_Ess_Kay totally understand some of these. I guess in my head I'm still looking at some of this as teenage behavior, not that it's an excuse,but just a reason. I felt like some of Dean's habits were things he could grow out of and didn't necessarily do on purpose(not that that makes it okay) but Jess did many of the things he did on purpose, it seemed just to get his way or to get a rise out of Dean. Even as an adult I find it difficult to control my anger when someone is a constant jerk to me. I think Jess character was actually kind of similar to Tristan. I think Tristan was supposed to be that constant cocky jerk before Jess showed up but they had Rory show no interest because the actor got the role on one tree hill. I think eventually she would have fallen for him similar to the way it happens with Jess.
Wherever you come down on the Rory lying to Dean situation it does not excuse Dean yelling like he did. Rory is afraid of Dean 15:30-16:05.
It's not the first time rory is scared of Dean either.
She is afraid he is going to pick up on her feelings for Jess. She is afraid he is going to break up with her. She isn't afraid that he is going to hit her! Richard is also a tall imposing guy. He has gotten angry with Emily and raised his voice but no one ever makes him out to be borderline abusive. But Dean gets legitimately upset over being lied to and mocked by Jess and he is a monster.
We disagree on this so completely.
@@LB-gz3keno she is afraid of his temper and the way he blows up at her. And he only does it when Lorelai is not around.
@@LB-gz3keExactly! How many times does Luke yell, scream, has become physical, no one says anything. For example, when he physically throws people out of the diner, when he kicks that one guy’s car, when he trows a pan at Taylor and breaks the window. He yelled at Lorelai countless of time, especially when yells at Lorelai that it was “her fault” for buying the building next door. Or whe he describe how he’s gonna kill TJ. The one time Luke really went too far when he yelled at that little old lady because she had to move, and couldn’t keep his boat anymore. Yet, Dean is “always yelling” and “abusive.”
If they get charged for the robes, they haven't stolen the robes, so Emily should be fine with that. She wanted to buy some of those robes anyway.
You've done so many episodes. You need to do the last episode anyone would suggest. Get a list of all the remaining episodes and mark them off as you see people suggesting them. The last episode remaining is the next episode you do
Please say you'll review A Year in the Life one day! I need your opinion on Rory's characterization and her choices. Spoilers: SHE ONLY GETS WORSE. Just imagine.
Also, love these videos. 😄
One day indeed.
I think about the time you are ready to stop watching GG because you are sick of Emily’s abusive behavior and you think she will never, ever change, then, hit up the chaotic disappointment that it AYITL. That way, when you become furious about every other aspect, you will finally find something to love about Emily’s character.
Lorelai thinking there's nothing wrong with the dance between Emily and that man is exactly why she lies and hides things from whoever her current boyfriend is at the time, or just straight up cheats on them with Christopher lol.
Thanks for this! If you want to see the earlier days of Rory and Dean, season 1 episodes are best. 1x6 Rory's birthday parties and the ball episode 1x9 Roy's dance would be perfect. Another great one for introducing the town is 1x5 Cinnamon's wake. Rory hasn't been a great girlfriend to Dean in seasons 2 and 3 so it gets frustrating as she has her Angel reputation.
Agree, all 3 of those are so cute and very good episodes too btw
I think you'd like Rory's Birthday Parties and Rory's Dance more than 1x05 because there's more memorable Emily Gilmore stuff in the other two :)
Dean not that great of a boyfriend either. They both suck at being in a relationship.
@@VioletEmerald what memorable about Emily party for Rory. Or Rory's dance.
This was one of your best, you were highly critical in this one, loved it, keep up the good work👍💪
lol, thank you.
Loreali moving and Emily making the comment of her electrocuting herself is my favorite bit in this episode.
As for your question if it was Jess' thing the first seasons to hit on someone else's girlfriend and mock others etc - not only did he do exactly that - but when he finally was in a relationship with Rory, he tried to force himself upon her, which was never really discussed as the horrific sexual offense that it was. Another show runner playing down how women are treated every day and influencing normalizing violent behavior. Regarding GG: Jess is one of a few on this cast going through a believable character development though and actually learning from his mistakes.
Damn, thats just terrible.
He tried to force himself?!!! They were consensually kissing. He wanted to go further, rory didn't and so he stopped. As someone who has experienced sa I think this is a dangerous attitude, for both men and women, to call someone putting the brakes on after a no sa!!
Ahh I don't want to comment any of my actual opinions bc it could start a big thread that I don't want 😂 but I will say, I would not have guessed what episode you were reviewing based on this video title.
Your voice is so intriguing and made for radio! If radio was still a thing yknow
Thank you
Born too late 😢 you can still read audiobooks that would be cool
ngl i’ve never gotten the whole “team jess” like even when it was airing i never liked jess attitude, his insistence towards rory even though he knew she was in a relationship, how awful he was to her once they actually dated, how their whole relationship ended, think i only liked him once he was basically off the show
same!
You need to see Jess’ character development and Dean’s character downfall!! We need a video on that
Honestly, Jess is wild for coming to Rory's house like that, however, I've recently watched this part of the series over again and from the start she leads him on heavyyyy, so I don't really know if the blame can be his. He's a 17 year old with a crush, and she's a 17 year old with a crush on someone who's not her boyfriend so the scales are tipped a little bit against her lol
So you can't blame Jess but you can blame Rory. That don't make since at all.
Your comments about the height difference were hilarious to me. I'm 5'2" and my husband is 6'4" and many years later he has neck and shoulder issues (not all related to me). I'd love to be 5'7" like Rory to make it easier.
Damn, a 14-inch difference is crazy.
@@notthemovie I'm actually wondering how tall you are now? Rory being 5'7 is pretty tall for a girl. Deans' real life wife is only 5'3. I'm so curious have you been in a relationship with a short girl and developed neck problems? 😂
@@Dropletsojoy Nah, I just like taking small jabs at the vertically impaired.
as the number 1 rory hater, i do have to say, she was not at fault here. jess was pushy and she felt like she couldn't say no. (they're literally teenagers, they're kids)
If you would like to learn more about the Lorelai-Dean dynamic, I recommend for you to watch the episode: "Kiss and Tell".
Imagine watching the entire series, Emily Gilmore is Emily Gilmore. She is a static character. She is always horrible to her daughter.
yeah it’s painful
She and her growth is the only good part of AYITL
No she isn’t 😂 she grew a lot over the series and she isn’t awful just different from her daughter.
@tracim3080 over the og series, she is Lorelei's number one bully. Emily Is also the one who cant accept that lorelei has a different type of lifestyle from what Emily had originally planned for her.
@@natyc19 no she isn’t part of growing up is realizing the importance of perspective.
This is how normal people are supposed to react to this episode! I hate that people make Dean seem like the bad guy and defend Jess in this siuation
Thank you! Had it been Dean with a girl, same situation, you know Jess team would be all over that. But because it’s Jess being the jerk, they always try their hardest to make Dean as the bad guy.
I’m going to have to heavily disagree with your assessment of Rory and Lorelei in this one. At this point in the show, Rory is a people pleaser more than an actual jerk. This episode clearly shows that *none* of the Gilmore women have ever been taught to set boundaries (or to be happy just being themselves without a man to “complete” them).
Rory is clearly afraid of making Dean mad even by just saying she wants to be alone on a Friday night. She immediately promises to make up for it by giving him her entire Saturday, like she’s obligated to appease his bruised ego because she dared to want some alone-time.
And Dean *does* have a dangerously toxic ego. He’s possessive, has no more respect for Rory’s boundaries than Jess (insisting on seeing her “just to say hi” even though she’s already promised him the entire next day), and has serious anger issues. There is NO excuse for that sort of thing.
Watching him yell at Rory while she tries to find the words for why she genuinely wasn’t able to be more assertive with either Jess or Paris (because, again, not even the ultra-progressive Lorelei taught her how to say No and then aggressively enforce it) was the excruciating part for me.
Yes, Rory’s later outright cheating is a bad thing, but blaming a 16-year-old for not being able to deflect a loser like Jess more effectively, or to tell her boyfriend that he’s scaring her and she needs space, when being Nice and Tactful and never EVER Aggressive is what women are taught practically from birth? That’s a hard NO for me.
Honestly, the worst thing about this show for me is that it never gives the female characters any kind of real character *development* away from men.
That it never, on the other hand, presents any truly solid, non-toxic guys for us to ship either Rory or Lorelei with (because dramaaaaa!!!), if we absolutely must ship them with someone heteronormative.
And that it never gives Lorelei the power to set lasting boundaries with her parents (people don’t “let” others guilt-trip them; it takes excruciating work to unlearn the Appease and Obey instinct), nor gives Richard and Emily any lasting dose of perspective outside of their 1% bubble or any kind of deep reflection on their mistakes. Because dramaaaaaa!!!!
It is NOT the women (other than Emily, maybe) who are the scariest to watch in this episode. It’s Jess and Dean taking out their respective personal insecurities (that they clearly had long before moving to Stars Hollow) on a girl who clearly isn’t ready for a long-term relationship (she’s *sixteen* , FFS!!!), but hasn’t been clearly and consistently taught that she can exist wholly and happily outside of a romantic relationship.
PREACH 🙌
"i wanna cheat too, you're living my dream." LOL
😭😭😭
your shipping of dean and lorelai is my favorite thread of these episodes.
Lol I think Jess was funny in this episode. He knows Rory likes him and he did a kind gesture by taking the food over. If she wanted him to leave and not eat with her he would’ve, but she asked him to stay. He teased her a bit but that’s because she clearly likes him but won’t admit it
None of that is ok when the person is in a relationship.
@@notthemovie I agree and if he was an adult it would be shitty, but I think I give him a bit more of a pass because he was 17 and also had never been shown what a healthy relationship/ courtship should be so the cards were stacked against him
Great episode!!!
My fav show is Gilmore Girls!
15:56 How did she lie? She told the truth that she wanted to be home alone doing laundry, and then Paris and Jess invited themselves, despite her trying to send them away. It WAS a complicated situation. Also, Rory was trying to tell the truth but PARIS lied.
bruh, she should have kicked jess out but she likes him. she likes him, she kissed him later, and never told dean about it. Paris lied, but Rory accepted the lie--She had a chance to tell the truth but she didn't. She's a liar.
@@xoltacueponi I'm not talking about the later episode (although I admit that was wrong of her), I'm only talking about this one. We can see that Rory tries to tell Dean the truth but couldn't even get the words out. On hindsight, we can analyze and decide what would have been the right way to go about it, but it's different when you're faced with a situation you didn't want, with little time to explain and have to keep up with other people's lies. Especially for someone who's non-confrontational and likes to be prepared like Rory.
Rory had a crush on jess and that's the reason she didn't tell him to leave. she's a cheater and she was lying to her boyfriend. what's so difficult to comprehend? @@2029-jo
@@2029-jo yeah ok but dude, again: Paris lied and Rory accepted the lie and lied to Dean. I'm not condemning her or demonizing her, she's a human. She's a teenager with lots of prefrontal cortex to develop. She lied. Because it was easier or out of fear or being non-confrontational, but she lied. It is what it is, and I don't think it's good or bad, it just is.
@@xoltacueponi Well if we're being technical, she didn't lie at the time Dean yelled at her (before Paris's lie) and accused her of lying. That's where I disagree with ppl who mindlessly blame Rory for everything (not you)
Love to see you be a little harder on Emily, since she’s truly a horrible person objectively. But for some reason, a lot of people who watch the show are actually fans of the character
I love Emily as a character. She's funny, she's sharp, she's driven. And yes, she treats Lorelei badly. But she's a fictional character. If she were a real person I'd hate her. I'd hate pretty much everyone in this series. But that's part of the enjoyment of watching characters on screen. They're characters. And Kelly Bishop plays Emily beautifully.
@@LaviniaDeMortaliumI can’t imagine finding her entertaining as certain traits of her remind me of my own mother so everything Emily does makes me feel awful and I can only sympathise with Lorelai.
Even if you relate to none of the characters, I feel like it‘d be hard to see her constantly berade her maids while having been unimaginably wealthy her entire life and still like her as a character.
The only thing I agree with is that Kelly Bishop is amazing and doing a great job. The fact that she once said at a panel that she doesn’t understand how anyone likes Emily only makes me respect her and her work more.
Frankly, all the Gilmore Girls are pretty terrible. But it's hilarious, and the whole reason why I love this show
@@greendiamondglow I don’t like this argument. Obviously none of them are perfect. But they don‘t all treat minimum wage staff like shit or like personal property.
She’s not horrible just old fashioned. I think she might’ve been born in the 50s or so it makes sense her views of the world are different, but with time you see her opening up a little and accepting new ways of life.
Your Dean/Lorelai shipping is so funny.
I love this episode! And I loved seeing Paris and Jess debate literature! I could watch entire episodes of this friendship trio!
And for those who say Rory is unlikable, I will always say to give her some grace. How can we expect her to be perfect? She was raised by a single mom and an unpredictable/unreliable dad. She is allowed to make mistakes - yes, even well into her 30s. The show started with Lorelei in her 30s and we watched her make multiple mistakes. We can allow Rory to do the same
These videos give me life
Running commentary on the video so I don't post a bunch of separate replies like some vicious trollop:
Yeah...the people who were blindsided by Rory's habitual infidelity confuse me. She's ALWAYS been about that life.
I HATE Jess. Just so, so much! I don't understand his fanbase. Maybe it's because I was an adult the first time I watched this show, but I NEVER found him charming. The whole party incident cemented his status as trash for me, but I never liked him. I can't believe ASP really thought trying to build a whole show around him was a good idea. Even the part of the series where he "made good" didn't fix him for me.
Emily getting so giddy about stealing the robe is adorable! I know she's a narcissistic monster, but all of the Gilmore Girls are. I know you're watching this series in bits and pieces, so I get why this may have come as a shock for you, but yeah...Emily's genes are strong. I love them all for it! Anyway, glad to see YT has stopped being a pill about you posting these reactions! *ahemSeason5Episode8theparty'soverahem*
I definitely agree that if you meet Jess when you’re an adult you’re like ‘wow this kid sucks’ as Lorelei said over and over from the second she met him! I met him as a teenager and I fell for his charm completely, but now two decades and two horrible divorces later, I think I’ve finally learned something and I cannot stand him anymore
Sweet more GG!
And Rory truly remains unlikeable for the rest of that season, too, when it comes to the Dean/Jess of it all. It's just insanity.
I hope eventually you do watch the fighting episode !!
At dinner, they were at the spa for the weekend so Richard wasn’t there.
Your dream woman is 6'2" to 6'10"?! How tall are you? 😲
Tall enough for that preference to make sense.
this is one of my favorite episode
Lorelai broke her leg doing yoga, hence the shirt
ohhh
This video is hilarious 😂
Thank you.
There's a deleted scene of rory and paris talking after the scene with dean and jess
Is there? Where can I watch it
This episode makes me so stressed!!
You need to watch "Rory's Dance" season 1 episode 9. Definitely some drama in that one.
Omg TAG how tall are you 😂
I'm a tall 5' 8." The type that looks significantly taller than that, but I'm not.
@@notthemovie Came back looking if someone asked you :D
172cm - what a perfect height!
This episode always makes me want to tear my hair out with how completely oblivious and self-absorbed Emily is.
It's the most unlikeable I find her every time I see this show.
This woman has virtually no positive relationship with her daughter, yet she wants to act like they're the best of friends in front of all these strangers? Like has she met Lorelai? There's no way she wouldn't have known that plan would bomb spectacularly.
Also! She didn't know what a couple's massage was? On what planet?
The control freak stuff is just insane. And the fact that she literally never shut the f*** up the entire time - I realize it was definitely exaggerated to explain just how annoyed Lorelai was, but honestly, Lor's 1000% in the right for getting frustrated.
But I also would have asked the desk people right there for just one or two treatments that weren't at the exact same time, and explain to Emily that yes, it is good to have some alone time during a spa weekend. Just let it happen. If anyone could convince Emily that would be a good thing, it's Lorelai.
I think you are going through them not in order makes you forget how innocent and non-confrontational Rory was earlier on, she is 16 here still and she was a nerd, mostly around the people she knew as a toddler. I don't like how Jess approached this and he did act creepy but still I think Rory at this point was very oblivious to her own feelings
Maybe looking at this episode Jess might be annoying, but I truly believe him and Rory should’ve been end game! His character development was amazing and even though in the beginning he was kind of a jerk, Rory really was the only one able to see his soft side and they actually had chemistry. He had family issues which explains his behavior but with time he tried to get past that and got an interest in writing using his reading hobby for good.
They had chemistry, because Alexis and Milo were in an actual relationship from 2002-2006.
He was still bad. Later yes but at this time he was terrible even to her.
@@zeenkosis yeah they really are the definition of right person, wrong time
watch this as a team jess is really entertaining
I think Emily was trying to put down her barriers in THIS episode and foster a closer relationship with her daughter.Spas do that.I don' t think she was happy about her dancing partner,which is why she tried to end the second dance before it started.
The actress who plays Emily is Kelly Bishop who won a Tony for "A Chorus Line" and it looks like the writers wanted to feature her dance work.
I didn't like her character in other episodes either...but in this one the two plot lines are about women's loyalty to each other.
All the leaning 😂😂😂😂
You wanna date a woman between 187-208cm? Gotta go to Latvia, apparently the tallest women worldwide live in Latvia.
Wonderful, now I know.
6'2-6'10. And you don't like a height difference of ten inches (Rory/Dean). So how tall does that make you? 6'6?
That's a good guess.
I love that episode so much 😁💕 #teamjess
This is hilarious XD
Thank you.
Poor Emily! She just wants to spend some time with her daughter... 🤭
pleaseee watch season 5 episode 3
I doubt Paris got less than an A in gym class.
Ok wait i lied, I will say one other thing: "Is this the one where they fight?" LMAO. "the one" where they fight...
Edit: OH you meant Jess and Dean, I thought you meant Rory and Dean 😂
I mean, you can dance with other people when you're married, you know.
Not when that person is CLEARLY after more than a dance.
I hope that young woman that “silver fox” man was with was his daughter or another young relative. Man, I really hope so…
all I know is that if you watched this in order Jess wouldn’t be a loser buuuttt it’s out of order so I’ve accepted this fate 😭😭
He gets better in later seasons but he is a terrible bf omg 😅
People like him cause his sarcastic and it gives him a bad boy edge
i dont care that yall call jess a loser he is so hot in this episode omg i eat it up so bad
Glad you have your priorities straight.
Hal Linden!
Oof, Rory and Jess 🤢. He’s my least favorite of all the boys.
You should watch season three episode 19 “Keg! Max!”
Jess and Dean fight in Season 3 Episode 19
Umm, how tall are YOU that your ideal woman height is ‘low to high 6’s”😮 Inquiring minds want to know 😂
I'm a tall 5' 8." The type that looks significantly taller than that, but I'm not. Promise.
😂
Finally someone else who dislikes Jess!
Refreshing, isn’t it? Lol
She cant dance with someone because she is married??! What??
He clearly wanted more than a dance.
@@notthemovie sure, but when she felt uncomfortable she stopped. It was weird that the moment he asked her to dance you were already judging her, asking if she wasn't with Richard anymore.
I don't think she did anything wrong, but every relationship is different so...
Rory on the other hand is a totally different story😅 and this is coming form someone who likes Jess, hehe!
@@notthemovieI agree that man was sniffing her 😅
"Jess is a loser." Yep
Jess was annoying all the time 😢 he was always rude to Rory and Lorelai and everyone else. Only thing They have in common was „books”. Almost all people who like them, like them couse They like Jess from looks. But like true He was the worst Rory „boyfriends” from all 🤷🏼♀️
Lorelai is too mean to her mother. The only thing her mother complained about the whole episode was Lorelai avoiding her. ☹
Also, Rory has this thing of being a backstabber yet also being too kind. Like...she cheats because she allows people to steamroll over her boundaries.
Oh please, Emily is mean to Lorelai the whole show
@@Nanazaoo There are several episodes, including this one where Emily wasn't mean to Lorelai in the slightest.
@@cutienerdgirl She belittles Lor for wanting to wear her own clothes, calls her a petulant 4 year old for pointing out the extremely inappropriate couples massage, interrupts her private facial (and only moment of peace) and blames her for "forcing" her to dance with a rando. And that's the episode where Emily is at her best. I love Emily, but there's literally never a single episode where Emily can refrain from insulting her own daughter. Even Kelly Bishop thinks she's horrible.
If I’m going to a spa, I don’t want constant chitter chatter. I especially don’t want a couple’s massage with my mom, and I like my mom.
Emily is mean to Lorelai to what comes around goes around. Who the hell breaks their daughter relationship up cause she don't like the guy oh yeah Emily does.
How tall are you?! Lol
Tall enough for my preferences to make sense.
Well, you must be really tall, or you want to be in Rory's position. 😜
@@rebeccaruiz842 2 things can be true.
I never liked any of Rory’s boyfriends but especially Jess and Dean. They both have bad vibes.
So according to you a married woman can't dance with anyone but her husband?
He was clearly after more than a dance.
The first one was lighthearted but that second one was a bit sniffy. It’s nuanced and we all know when something innocent changes.
It’s like when someone shakes your hand then stroke it after. Is hand shaking wrong, no but you know when the intention has changed.