2017 Personality 02/03: Historical & Mythological Context
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2017
- In this lecture, 02 and 03 combined, I provide some historical context for the understanding of personality, suggesting that the clinical theories, concerned with the transformation and improvement of personality and character, are embedded within a classic narrative/mythological structure.
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It´s 10pm, Sunday, I´m sitting in my room at home, and I´m watching a lecture by today´s one of the greatest minds in psychology for free. This era we live in today has its flaws, but this is definitely something to be happy about.
Shit man and here I am a year later benefiting the same, if not more because I listen while at work. This is innovation.
clean your room
I'm here after you both 😁 great times. ✌
zvolencan1 You mean this ignorate transphobic nazi.
Tyler Millaway I’m gonna go ahead and take the bait and acknowledge you but only to tell you to clean your room.
"You can't have proper respect for your self until you know that you're a monster. Because you won't act carefully enough."
There is a lot of wisdom in that.
"You cannot have proper respect for yourself until you know you're capable of some good. Because you won't act at all" would be my response.
If we only see ourselves as monstrous evildoers, the only way to prevent evil is to not act at all.
We need to believe that sometimes the output of our actions can be improvement and not inescapable decline.
Certainly, just in this lecture he's mentioned that there are two elements of the human psyche; the benevolent and the resentful. They are just as important and both constitute a well developed individual, like yin and yang. True power of spirit seems to be born from the familiarity of one's shadow, and the conscious taming of it. I think he emphasised the importance of the monster within, because we're always told to play nice, and that any evidence of one's malevolent nature should never see the light of day.
Sounds suspiciously like the Christian concept of Original Sin....speak for yourself and the potential evil inside YOU, Dr. Peterson-in your lectures you really should announce when you're speaking as a BELIEVER and not a SCIENTIST....
Jordan Peterson: "Every human being could be Charles Manson or Hitler." This makes as little sense as saying that every person could be Einstein, Shakespeare, or da Vinci.
As you might have noticed, this series of lectures is heavily influenced by the work of Carl Jung. The fact that many mythological and religious texts are filled with Jungian archetypes surely leads to the association of such texts with concepts discussed in the lecture, regardless of Dr Peterson's viewpoint.
It wouldn't be a Peterson lecture without a Pinocchio reference
Roughly speaking
It's no joke.
Or Lobsters.
Hahaha. Did you miss that Pinocchio represents ‘the boy’ the young boy who is trying to be free. I.e you class, young people who are like Pinocchio, all jangly and clumsy.
I could have been the 421st like, but i think that id like to keep it at the preceding number...
02/03. Historical & Mythological Context
- about mythological universally known stories:
- a. why it is comprehensible
- b. why it is enjoyable
- c. what exactly are you doing
- cultures use music to organise themselves, to catalyse their identities
- in archaic societies, rituals use music and dance as symbolic representations of a mode of being in the world (ex. animals, leader, family, nature, etc.)
- HOW SHOULD ONE CONDUCT ONESELF IN THE WORLD?
- axioms of faith …society is supported on philosophical foundations, metaphysical ideas, these are manifested in stories and myths
- the individual has transcendent worth, fundamental axiom from which the human rights in western civilisation is derived “we hold theses truths to be self evident”
- mythical underworld (unknown/chaos) …place where you go when things fall apart, when an axiom with which you conduct your life, disappears/gets destroyed/fails/etc. The worst case scenario you can find yourself in is when you are playing a causal role in the “falling apart” of the axiom, this is specially hard to define.
- road to health …from a psychoanalyst perspective is that if you are not doing well, which means that the combination of your presuppositions and your actions translated as habits are not matching with how the world is responding. Then finding whats wrong with your presuppositions/action patterns and so why are they not producing the desirable outcome is what might get you out of the underworld.
- ej. maybe your are not moving forward because of fear, maybe that fear is grounded in terrible experiences from the past that you were never able to understand.
- what are you avoiding? from fear? disgust?
- we are nested inside a dream cause we can’t know everything, we have to take things as givens and those things are nested inside stories, we accept the stories as valid, and then outside the stories is the absolute unknown.
- to punish the virtues …is a central archetypical story found in christianity, for example, in which Christ is punished in the worst possible way for the highest posible virtues, thats why its archetypical there is nothing more unfair than that, its a sort of limit.
- Because life is so difficult you have to do something that is truly worthwhile, in order to justify it. You have a ethical duty to straighten things up.
- respect for yourself …you cannot have proper respect for yourself until you know you are a monster, because you won’t act carefully enough. The harm you do to people can come in many ways. Understand your shadow.
- Jung believed that inside the shadow was the anima. It relates to the preference of the women for dangerous but tamed males.
- learning …finding out something that you do wrong, something thats build into you like a character, presumption of your perception, or a deep habit, killing it, killing that part of your personality, suffering for it as you correct it, and become a new version of yourself. the phoenix.
- mental disorders …these are not illnesses that have specific limits on the mind and life of the subject, they are usually embedded through out all across the individual’s life’s, so you can’t actually “clinically” remove it sort to speak.
- categorization …one of the problems that come across clinical psychology or psychiatry as a science is that their categories are actually quite diverse, the problem is big because if the categories aren’t homogeneous then its very difficult to draw a conclusion about the members of the category.
- perception …your value system determines the direction of your perception…you live within a framework of perception thats determined by your values because you look at what you want, you aim at what you want and once you aim the world lays itself out to you, and thats how perception works.
- your value system is configured by mostly unconscious forces that you have little control over and determines your attention and focus.
- The Ecological Approach To Visual Perception (James J. Gibson) …when people took at the world they see value first and inferred object second.
- truth …there is not one way of defining truth thats appropriate, the definition of truth might be more like a tool, and as tool using creatures really what we are trying to do with our conceptions of truth is to work trough the world, successfully. The darwinian idea of truth is that our notions about the world have evolved trough a darwinian process and that its appropriate for us to regard as what is most real those things that reliably ensure the continuation of our lives and the probability of propagation.
- archetype/to be human is to participate in a certain pattern of being …that pattern is acted out socially, individually and is also part of your structure, even your perceptual structure as a living organism of your particular type.
- culture …set of value laden presuppositions that you orient yourself in the world that MATCH the set of value laden presuppositions that everyone in your culture has and acts out. Is that match that regulate your emotions, is not the belief system, is the match/cultural identity.
- serotonin …it tunes your nervous system, when you are at the top of a dominance hierarchy your serotonin levels rise which means that happy things make you happier and sad things make you less sad, so if your at the bottom of the dominance hierarchy hardly anything makes you happy, and everything makes you nervous.
- society …the societal structure, which is an elaborate dominance hierarchy, regulates your emotions because the match of your expectations and the behaviours of the people within that structure, and your position within that hierarchy regulates the ratio and intensity of your positive and negative emotions
- falling into chaos …it is not just anxiety, when you fall into chaos, you fall into a state where nothing is certain, the way you construe the world isn’t certain and even the way the world is isn’t certain because you don’t know how to act or your actions aren’t working and so the world is presenting itself as something that is chaotic, is not just psychological, the chaos is a weird intermingling of the chaotic world (“real” chaos) and the chaotic self (psychological chaos), those two things con spiral …the distinction between the psyche and the world is quite arbitrary.
- ej. a person gets fired, this is devastating, this is falling into chaos, psychological speaking you are disrupted and realistically speaking the person is unemployed that makes the world far more incomprehensible and uncertain.
- Thomas Szasz - The Myth Of Mental Illness …most people have problems in living, not psychological problems
- dimensions to live well …operating reasonable well in at least half of these dimensions will psychologically thrive you, motivate you.
- schedule
- plan
- career
- productive time
- regulate use of drugs
- family
- language …there is a meaning network outside of language, and its what language is grounded in and that is this pre verbal comprehension of the world, its an embodied comprehension of the world.
- environment/social cognitive architecture …your environment is not nature, is culture, is other people. Your fundamental architecture is social cognitive, you tend to view the world as if it is personified. This is specially because the world in which you emerged as a being was primarily social, what you needed to know is “who is the big primate? who is the little primate? who is related to who?”.
- ej. if a big chimp bullies a little chimp he can tear him apart. but if the little chimp is associated with bigger chimps, the little chimp can bully the big chimp, big chimp won’t mess with him. This is because the nervous system of he big chimp doesn’t respond to the little chimp as just little, but a little chimp attached to some big monsters.
- The nervous system responds to the network around the chimp. This is a kind of platform that constitutes the evolutionary underpinnings of your psyche. This means we actually dont care too much about what our “world/nature” looks like, but the relationships between beings, the social cognitive architecture.
- super ego …internalised representation of the judgemental father, society.
- you can’t use science as a guide of behaviour, you use instinct manifested in imagination and the evolved structure of your organic culture (dominance hierarchy/emotions/feelings)
- universals … social world, natural world, the individual
culture, nature , you
the known, the unknown, you
father, mother , you
Thanks for sharing
Matt Varela awesome
Matt Varela thank you
Thank you Matt Varela, very nice of you to give an index of what is going to be discussed.
Matt Varela g
It's definitely much better to watch the whole video in its original context rather than watching clips of it.
Completely agree.
@I'm unsubscribing. unsubscribed
Of course it's better... but it's harder!
The clips are ad ridden. However, clips were a major vehicle for his becoming an internet phenomena. Thank _______ (insert your higher power here) for that! I probably wouldnt have found these lectures otherwise. I can't think of anyone that has helped the world more in recent times. Even if someone doesn't buy into anything he says, just having the issues raised is morally philanthropic.
@@patsutubehortchan Clips are a great medium to gain interest for larger pieces of material, purely because of how vast the amount of information on the internet is. Nobody watches a 2 hour lecture willingly, without knowing beforehand that spending 2 hours like that is worth it.
I first started to watch these lectures back in 2017. My parents told me I wont be able to go to university. I was in a bad place. Now, I rewatch them in 2022, Im doing my master degree, I received many recognition awards from my university and I'm in a good place in life, full of opportunities. I learned so much from you. Thank you for your lectures et your being.
Why were your parents telling you that you can’t go to university ?
Jordan Peterson is a Top Lobster
He's THE Top Lobster
Jordan Lobster is a top Peterson
He is the one who knocks
Mike E I believe that the message that he is trying to send out is that there are things that you admit what you do not know, and to what you know you know it truly. So seek out other great things, so you can find awe in some greatest minds.
EccentricExploringApe yesss
imagine 500,000 people at a college lecture. RUclips is literally revolutionary.
And all of them are genuinely intereseted in listening because why would you watch otherwise, more professors should film their lectures.
True. JP puts it on about the same cultural level as the printing press.
Closing in on 1 million now. That's 10 full triple deck football stadiums. Imagine ten stadiums of people quietly listening to a lecture about personality and mythology for over an hour. There's Peterson pacing between the 40 yard lines, talking about Jonah, comparing lobsters to humans. Well, that's all folks. Go home now.
1M now
@@generalralph6291 That reminds me of the Monty Python Philosophers' football match 😅
i can't belive that i have this oportunity
i am listening a brilliant genius
in the confort of my own home
so perfect
an sjw might even tell you to ”check your privilege”
I know right. Imagine in the age of Tesla, if we had the opportunity to watch and listen to his experiments livestreamed on Twitch or RUclips. Imagine seeing Tesla's youtube channel as he is developing his stuff.
Imagine hearing Plato or Socrates lecture.
We're fucking lucky to live in this time, when even common plebs like ourselves can take part in important stuff.
@ Nimbus Catbot
Well ... According to the information in this lecture that would be a post-modernist relating a one sided ideological narrative in order to place obstructions between you and your success as a viable person.
No wonder Peterson detests the post-modernist ideology.
Limitless 1 believe* opportunity* listening to* comfort* (punctuation)
Your already edited your message, for what?
Im 46yrs old. I was given a daughter when I was 18, probably to keep me from destroying myself and everyone around me, I had to, gladly, forgot certain pursuits.
The # of times I wished that the ability existed to explore these kinds of topics......and now its possible...its a bloody miracle! Its no joke man ;)
Not sure what lecture its from but now whenever I have some stupid negative thoughts I just hear you saying "yeah yeah, everyone's life is a tragedy" in my head and chuckle. Thanks Dr. Peterson.
Brb, have to save my father from a whale.
WHEN IS HE GETTING BACK?!
@@brynhildrbuladottir8425 it's been 2 years! Let's go on a heroes journey into the depths and find him
IAm TheBlurr into the belly of the beast we go
@@asap397 Hold on to your butts
Did you find some lobsters ??
“Because life is so difficult, you have to do something that’s truly worthwhile in order to justify it.” - Jordan Peterson
I finished the biblical stories and now I'm doing this. I also did 2017 maps of meaning. Free lectures that you can't find for any amount of money anywhere else. You changed my life, man. I mean it. We haven't even met. You don't even know of my existence, and yet you changed my life drastically, to the better. It's so strange. I will do my best to attend one of your lectures or at least a public talk at least once in this life.
Are you attending this current Beyond Order tour?
@Daniel Zavala Huerta Hi! I have tickets for the September tour in Ireland.
My husband and I saw his Seattle show. Even antifa was politely demonstrating. It was a great talk. We are definitely going to buy any tickets near us next time. He’s a treasure.
My timestamps. So that I can come back and refer only a particular part of the lecture.
1:55 Inexhaustible
4:50 Movies
6:35 Grasping as a whole
9:20 Music
11:09 Original Greeks laid the groundwork of imperial science
Till 13:53 how to conduct oneself, conversations
14:30 Religious texts and myths are the outer perimeter of our society
18:00 to 20:07 You are a social creature and you have to conduct yourself as per sophisticated rulea
21:30 The more corrupt a culture is the less trust is possible between individuals
22:45 Why do I oppose corruption?
25:31 The water is often the symbol for the unconscious
26:32 Procrastinate
28:47 The whale/dragon
32:30 dark place. (I've been there, terrible place to be)
34:35 How to apply psychotherapy, eg grounded in fear
37:25 , 41:04 , 43:00 , 51:05 , 56:20 Harry Potter
39:29 Humanities, culture, 2 sets of parents
41:34 Yungian idea shadow
42:25 What happens if you regard yourself as harmless
44:30 About chaos underneath the surface
50:00 Making sense of art, music, dance, mythology, religion, etc
51:30 Phoenix, transformation
54:00 Learning
54:45 The person who comes out the other end might hardly be the same at all
57:10 Science is about what the world is. Factual. And the myth, drama, dream, artistic side are Abstractions
58:27 Ethics and Morality
59:00 Mental disorders
1:01:00 Aim at how life would like if it were better
1:01:45 Categorisation
1:05:00 Categories aren't homogeneous
1:06:20 We look at the world from a framework of reference
1:07:43 Your value system determines the direction of your perception ( a Buddhist idea ) (Something similar that blew my mind in the Haemin Sunim Book)
1:10:00 So hard to focus when to try to pay attention/set a goal and sticking to it. Freudian idea about multiple personalities and ego.
1:11:35 Obstacles also take the plan down (so true man)
finish it pls
@disha u found gem
Thank you!
thank you
Thanks, bro
I am a fan from India. I haven't seen a man this articulate and expressive at the same time being factual.
... while also drinking a "Canada Dry" at the University of Toronto. Brilliant. ;)
I wonder how does this sound for a non-westerner.
Same here Tom. Love for JBP from India.
It sounds perfect here, to those who're able to comprehend what he's trying to put forth
none of us have, that is why we are here
Peterson is really doing his homework and then comes to class. What an honour for the students to see that someone is focused so much on ther benefit, someone respects them so much as humans who want to learn. He is teaching "do your duty and be conscious" and he is giving them a perfect exemple through his behavior. Well done mr Peterson.
"Because life is difficult, you have to do something truly worthwhile in order to justify."
great.
"You won't line up for 2 hours to watch a lecture." lol, if only Jordan knew how well this quote would age.
This level of wisdom is beyond academia.
Yup, listen to good ole Manly P Hall, you would agree as well. Rip MPH 🙏🏼
And ye, it was so academia took him out and he blow up in the world and know most of the people know about him
"You won't line up for a lecture" Then along came JP.
Absolutely right!!😬😬😎💪🏼
Hes a paradox
This series is amazing
I miss my son. I finally did the dishes. And I'm going to try to wake up in the morning and go to work. Made myself something to eat tonight. Starting small, but I can see the dragon, building up the strength to it. Small victories. Small victories, friends.
This videos are fire. It's like peeking into Heaven, or eternity, or The Void, and seeing a glimpse of everything all at once.
Damn. You just explained exactly what watching these lectures is like. What a weird feeling.
That is probably the best way to describe it
Jbp lectures = 5MeO DMT experience
Lol
I'm from South Africa and this guy's classes are amazing. They've helped me a lot. All these students have the privilege of seeing him live and they arrive late. The total lack of respect.
Yeah sawubona
Listen to good ole Manly P Hall, you won’t be disappointed. I believe Sir Peterson got the torch where Manly left off. RIP MPH
@@wowser44 I’ll have to find him. Give him a listen. Thanks.
I'm getting a world class education for free. Thank you JBP! I am truly grateful.
I looked up Camille Paglia, because you mentioned her here in passing. Thank you for inviting us to discover this powerful thinker! She's brilliant and I'm loving her content!
I wholeheartedly agree!
Orphan Red you agree with yourself? Lol
She and jordan spoke with each other, you should look into it :)
I came across her about 8 years ago and loved her work, then found Peterson a few weeks ago.
I was quite tickled when he first referred to her in a video I was watching; it's great when people you like turn out to like each other.
Holy shit i was just watching a terence mckenna lecture mentioning her book and then i literally come here and see this comment wow
47:51 "God only knows why."
*Proceeds to explain why.
😂
Therefore I Am God
@@rogomerlinthegamer8305 I guess God is more like an idea than entity..
Your God might be Dumbledore or your dad and my god might be Krishna or Jesus..
But I understand your point..
@@rogomerlinthegamer8305 Two things.
1. It's not proper epistemology to apply sociology to a metaphysical question. Different fields of thought can enlighten each other, but they can only be settled by methods proper to each field.
And 2. Not all Christians are fundamentalists or presuppositionalists. I.e, the Bible or bare Faith isn't our only resource. There is a rich tradition, older the Protestantism, which incorporates the reasoned insights from pagans like Plato and Aristotle, Muslim philosophers like Avicenna, etc...All religions are groping after the same thing. (We argue that our religion is MORE correct; but, for instance, a Muslim is truly correct when he describes God's attributes. He's not worshipping "another god"--he's truly grasping towards the One God.)
@@rogomerlinthegamer8305 if the God of the Bible doesn’t exist which his claims are grounded in history. Then morality becomes subjective and rape and murder become opinions. There is no right and wrong it’s all subjective thus anything SO CALLED Evil has no standard of Good to be compared to. Just flawed immorally imperfect humans that somehow came from an explosion of nothing, thus are worth NOTHING
"You need meaning in your life because life is hard."
26:00
I’m always amazed by Jordan’s rhetoric skills. His eloquence, his voice, his gesture. He’s great to learn from. I really want to talk like that some day.
Dr Peterson, I am loving this series of lectures. Very generous of you to make them available. Your heart and mind are a world treasure.
Mr Peterson has me watching lectures, reading & making weekly schedules .🤯
Hey what's the name of the neuroscienctist. Izhaniga or something??
@@jimmywaltone6628 you probably already know about him by now. In case you don't- his name is Gazzanigga
A bean bag is a chair, and a stump is a chair, and they don't chair much in common
Ryan Dodson nice.
the bean bag is just bean bag you sit on no legs the chair has 4 legs and a back stump is just something you can sit on but has no legs or back like a chair
garry shenton so what you’re saying is a stump and a rock are the the same thing
Budum diss
This wwas such a good one 😂
The reason I think Jordan Peterson is so popular, is because his answer to anything seems to always start with "It depends...". People that insist on a simple answer to a question have a narrow view of the world. It's boring. Peterson's approach is very adventurous and curious. Even when he is talking about something that he has talked about before I can tell he is thinking about it as if it were somewhat of a new topic of conversation. There will forever be more to be discovered. To be learned. I love that. It's very humble.
This guy would make a great DM.
I could only imagine.
DM?
Mason Andrus Dungeon Master.
He would play the wise old man and advise young knights through perilous journeys into dark labyrinths
I turn my bag of holding inside out, wrap myself in it, and walk through the dungeon wall...
Thanks Mr Peterson, you're having a positive influence on my life atm 👍🏻👍🏻 keep her lit sir 🙏🏻 🇮🇪 🇮🇪
fuckin ditto
Yeoo!
*relatable conglomeration of phrases insinuating regular ingestion of cannabis concurrent with lectures conducted by Dr. Peterson*
Magnifikano yeeeeooo keep her lit sir and\or country !!
basarde
I sometimes wonder how I'd react to JP's full prolonged stare when he pauses to lecture directly to certain students. I'd don't think I'd be able to withstand the wisdom and intellect directed full force at my eyeballs
This is so true i laughed out loud
"...thats why you're on facebook all the time" [student suddenly sits up while simultaneously shutting laptop, then realises that it wasn't directed at her]
Timestamp?
@@pablomacias4924 we neeeed a timestamp XD
01:21:04
@@rudeusgreyrat32 no thats not it? lol
@@jcmick8430 then where?
"You won't line up two hours to see a lecture..."
I think that depends on what the lecture is. How many people would stand in a lime for two hours for Dr. Peterson's lectures?
I don't think I could fit in a lime
I certainly would
What about a lemon?
@@Apollothecrowing saved by the buoyancy of citrus
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“All ideals are oppressive” Wow, something really snapped together after hearing that.
This man is damm smart.He combine philosphy,religion and science in a very effective way and teaches us how to act and conduct ourselves in life.
8 am, with my cuppa, first thing I do is watch the next lecture here !
I am 68 and still learning, and certainly happy to have found Jordon Peterson !
Augmenting my expensive graduate education in Clinical Psychology with these free lectures - so far Dr. Peterson has provided far more value.
He comes alive on the platform. It’s like he’s having a conversation rather than teaching and I’m eavesdropping. 😀
I am a fan from Pakistan 🇵🇰 and his lectures are changing my life.
میں پاکستان سے ہوں اور اُس کے سبق میری زندگی تبدیل کررہیں ہیں۔
God, if I'd had this information when I was in high school, or even in college... I'd have been unstoppable
Or you would cast it off until your guidance structure failed and you would need a new one.
It’s never too late
Same! How old are you now? I’m 42 and will have an associates degree after next semester.
The gem that I take with me from this lecture the most, which seems to summarize this whole lecture, is this:
"To be human is to participate in a certain pattern of being. That pattern of being is acted out socially, it is acted out individually, but it is also part of your structure, even your perceptual structure, as a living organism of your particular type. And it would be the case at least in part, in the hero myth, which is: go out where no one has gone before, face the terrors of the unknown, gather something of value, and return; is the central story of humankind[...]. Many of the dramas that you engage yourself in are variations of that story, and you watch it over and over and over, because you are trying to learn how to do that. Because that's what you need to do to live."
I keep pausing every couple minutes to write notes on everything that blows my mind
Jordan Peterson may be the best speaker in terms of arrangement ever.
This man is a genius.
It is very en-heartening to see such a "good" lecture be watched be nearly 400k viewers. There's a lot of things that can get you feeling completely hopeless - especially in this day and age. To see a large amount of people actually listening to a 2 hour video is evidence of optimism in the face of pessimism and nihilism. And JP is the only one I've seen that can actually manage that. It will be a dark day when this guy leaves us, for sure.
Not really, unless his teachings go unheeded.
I read that as un-heartening. . . . Had to read it at least two more times.
Found these lectures during the pandemic, it’s not so bad anymore. The fact that this is free is mind boggling.
Yeah it just blows me away
Wow. I've never been so interested in the 'humanities' before
Listen to good ole Manly P Hall, you won’t be disappointed. I believe Sir Peterson got the torch where Manly left off. RIP MPH
I'd certainly queue up for three hours to see a Dr Peterson lecture!
"Nature, culture and the individual - all have negative and positive elements. Anyone who tells you half of the story is lying!"
What a great end to this great lecture?!
In my perfect world I would be a student sitting in this class! What a privilege to have access to this course! South Africa is seriously lacking in proper psychology in universities. Thank you Dr Peterson! Your insight is totally eye opening!
Found this during COVID-19. Thank you! I do hope he's continuing to improve in health.
Well, welcome to the alt-right then 😁
@@rockym.g.3827 Can you quote Peterson saying he's right wing?
@@enabler2456 dude that was 2nd degree cmon
@@rockym.g.3827 Well, alt-right can be a lot of things, so I was genuinely curious lol
@@enabler2456 oh well I was just imitating the idiots who like to caricature everyone who doesn't think like them
Professor Peterson,
you probably won't see that, but I just wanted to thank you for all your work. RUclips videos of you and your book(which is just amazing) made be get my life together and I realized some important things about it, so thank you. You are really a great man and I have infinite amounts of respect for your wisdom and academic integrity.
I've even become interested in psychology, that's why I'm here watching this lecture and trying to get the most of it.
Imagine over one million people voluntarily watching a free lecture that you would have to pay an arm and a leg to a college to get this there. let alone the entire course. Craziness.
Each year these productions get better, thanks!
Almost every lesson by JP is immensely useful in such a versatile range of issues, personal development and with true fundamental value, it is...astonishing to say the least how he manages to navigate complex issues and STILL make you think and develop.
I have been straightening myself out thanks to these lectures I am so grateful and hope to shake this man's hand one day but if not I hope whomever is reading this is convinced to watch a few, warning: may rock your worldview and change ur life
1:20:10 "We live in a society, and it's a very deep idea."
JP confirms that meme accidentally unironically woke.
Damn I was about to comment this, I'm 2 years later
thanks to me you now have 69 likes, you welcome
@@sodiumchloride8273 thanks b0ss much appreciate
I'm an enginnering student yet I enjoy these lectures way more than the ones I have at UNI.
Thank you so much! This is like being back at university with my favourite professors. My son introduced you to me - Thank you for offering this to all of us...
I have become completely and absolutely obsessed with Jordan Peterson content on RUclips. I feel more calm after listening to him speak every single time. ❤
Thank you for uploading your lectures. They help me tremendously.
I'm so inspired to go to uni this year because of Dr Peterson, I have always been interested in psychology. But the ability to watch these lectures has cemented it for me, that this is what I should be doing with my life. The only shame is I'm in the uk. If I was in Canada I would be in his classroom in a heartbeat!
I studied psychology in the 80's (took me a while to get over that), have been interested in it for over 30 years . Jordan brings so much together for me I cannot thank him enough.
I swear I think I've listened to every video lecture by this man 3 or 4 times over the last five years.
Again. Thank you Dr. Jordan Peterson. I always feel so much better after listening.
The Dragon who represents the monster in the Chaos and Chaos itself like "Virgins" i think because virgins are without "experience". And chaos consumes the unexperienced
A really neat point here.
Thanks!
Unclear if that's why. I actually don't think that's true at all. Doesn't have anything to do with the woman's experience; instead, it has more to do with their social standing, which is to say, how ideal they are to the male/hero. You have way too much of a modernist framework here. In terms of the morality, personality, and otherwise, it's more to do with purity and value, as would naturally seem to be the case (as work by Jon Haidt actually proves about many people at the level of emotion/morality). Nothing more pure and valuable to a male human than a beautiful, young, virgin female -- so, that's why they are taken by the dragon, and the hero must save her. It may also be a case of winning her as a wife as a result, which was common back then in male-male fights to the death as to win the hand of the Queen, Princess, or such of the ilk in marriage (meaning, she would choose the winner). So, it's kind of the journey to winning a woman's attention/getting a wife, just at a more dramatic level than is normally the case. Since most women who have had sex before have a husband already (let's say, circa 1550 AD, for the sake of argument), then you cannot win her if this is the case, which means it makes zero sense to save a non-virgin woman (meaning, a married woman) since you don't actually win anything unless it's for the sake of saving the whole village, which sometimes happens. On top of this, there are really only two types of women who are not virgins and not beautiful and not pure and not as valuable to the man/hero: hookers and working-class, poor, ugly women (with a lot of overlap between the two). It doesn't make much sense to slay the dragon and save the working-class, poor, ugly girl. Why would you want that instead of a beautiful, young virgin? -- Where, a sense of middle-class/upper-class or such of the ilk is built into the narrative itself. This is the ideal 'save-the-girl' story, after all, so it makes sense that she would be ideal in nature. It's an archetype. Likewise, nobody wants a hooker (well, some men do, but those men are corrupt). That's why it's archetypical and universal: it applies to everybody. That's why it's 'virgin'. 'Save the virgin' sounds a bit better than, 'save Dave's wife'. Like, what, why? Why isn't Dave saving Dave's wife? What do I win if I save Dave's wife? Will Dave be mad at me if I save Dave's wife? Do I have to share Dave's wife if I save her? Will the King punish or reward me for saving Dave's wife? It kind of kills the whole concept when you have to answer all those questions right before slaying the dragon and saving the girl...
@YamFestival reminds me of spirited away
AMAZING I feel like I am learning all over again - this is seriously great stuff and JP articulates it all so well. I never thought I'd be at a lecture again after so many years - and enjoy it too!
Watching Dr. Peterson somehow fills me with a sense of comfort that I don't get anywhere else
I love how he is so okay with the silence.
These lectures will continue through time thank you Dr Peterson
The magic he does with words... all his teachings...all here for free... at the distance of a click... we are living a wonderful time.
Mr Jordan B Peterson, thank you so much for sharing your fantastic and soundly paced lectures. You are an incredible source of wisdom and intellectual grace. You are helping me a great deal and the fact you are sharing your lectures beyond your university Professor position shows that you are a very caring and compassionate person. I believe you will be aiding and helping a great deal of people across the world who do not have access to Psychology University courses like they may offer in Toronto or other highly developed areas. Similarly - Psychotherapy or analysis sessions are not very accessible by the general public who greatly need direction and advice, answers and truths. I appreciate you sharing your wisdom and lectures so very much. Thank you, Sincerely, Catherine (UK).
54:52 He hits the nail on the head with this one. This can also be applied to drug addiction and why it is so hard to overcome it. It was easier for me to overcome become my family is basically 100% sober with the exception of a small amount of alcohol on the holidays. Making new friends and cutting old friends off is the challenge because I had roughly the same group of them for around 8-9 years. It really does become a way of life, not just an addiction to a substance. That's why AA focuses on a "spiritual awakening and psychic change" because you need a new way of life. I do not like the AA program or NA program very much but they do have that part of it right 100%.
I'm 30, all my life I studied numbers, engineering, information, chemistry, physics. I never liked or understood art, religion, literature (maybe even myself) until I met this guy.
I understood that I like psychology and would like to know more about it
Mihail Colun
The ultimate machine and computer is mankind. And it is programmed with Random Mode.
This lecture is more than 2 hours and I couldn’t stop listening. I wish I was in this class. Thank you, JBP! 🔥 🦁
Bloody brilliant series. Such a blessing to find this, for free, online, and available at any time for my consumption, to be consumed as many times as necessary to digest the material.
- dude, what are u doing?
- i'm just trying to understand wolves.
"Continues sniff the person's butt"
Love this man and his morality.. helping me through sobriety 💕
Just beautifully talented...Unique...captivating ...a Vernal bridge to a world now understood...thank you Dr. Peterson...Brilliant.
This is the only comment that JP should really pay attention to- we have two modes of social regulatory self-control; what we are feeling and what we are seeing reflected in the other person’s eyes- this goes back to the knowledge of good and evil and the corresponding self-awareness that JP has correctly identified. A lot depends on the relative value that we give the reflected image of ourselves in the other person’s eyes; this is probably the most profound thought I will ever have and I thank JP from the bottom of my heathen/Buddhist heart for the gift of his impeccable work ethic and relentless efforts to impart the information that he has discovered.
jordan is my second dad
He's my third
A surrogate father to us all
Love my father. Dr. Peterson has taught me more than my father ever did. The problem is, i wish i had heard or have been able to understand this stuff before i had my own kids.
The common sense gets me, but uff with all that wisdom, am listening to it again and again. Thank you!
I appreciate the existence of these lectures!
Jordan b p. Is a voice in the dark. He's done more for my life then I could ever explain
It's so cool that JP had the foresight to record these lectures! Such a treasure, especially considering he's not teaching anymore.
I'm a Brazilian psychology student and I really want to thank you to provide such a high-quality lecture for free on youtube, because, unfortunately, it's impossible for me right now to afford the tuition fee of an expensive international universtiy like the University of Toronto.
Thank you very much for your amazing work!!!
I could've paid $8,000 to miss the first ten minutes of this lecture and run in late, but I got to pay nothing but attention to a brilliant man for the whole time from home. Thanks for the uploads!
the relationship to stories/movies and the development of high end graphics processing chips blows my mind
Dr. Peterson please get better the world needs you
I'm really grateful for publishing these lectures. Thanks to this I can gain a lot of knowledge which is useful in discussion with postmodernists. On thing that bothers me is that I have to stop the video in some moments to check the word or sentence in translator, unfortunately the language barrier is really big trouble even if you spend a lot of time on extending your language skills. I thinking about adding the subtitles for all of this lectures in Polish language, but it would take a lot of time for me to translated and write it and it will simultaneously extend time which I am spending on one lecture to 5 hrs. But I think it will be worth it. Anyway I wish that I could sit there, listen and note all of this informations live. Great lecture.
Greetings from Poland.
Thank you for this series, jordan! Thanks a lot!
Thank you for making this available to everyone!
This series of lectures is a tool, an amazing and high value tool
"'i'm going to quit eating sugar for a month!' How long does that last?"
For me. A month. The hardest month of my life. :(
Good work! that shiz is addictive like cigs.
.... I quit white sugar for 2 years. Only sugars were fruits etc., or in the second year, organic or low-processed sugar I cooked with... I meant it!
Master Builder I did it for a month. I had some obviously. I just did'nt go above 36 grams.
Just force yourself to do it for like 6 months. Afterwards it will have become a habit and you wont struggle resisting sugar anymore. Its worth it but very hard in the beginning. I did it and after 2-3 years of trying I succeeded. Im a complete failure, pathetic, shy, socially inept with women and insecure. But I fixed my diet and eat really healthy now. I eat no products with added sugar, softdrinks, processed sweets/candy etc. anymore. Id say around at least 90% of what I eat are basics like rice, quinoa, sweet potatoes, sorghum, beans, chickpeas, lentils, fresh vegetables and fruits, water and unsweetened herb tea, nuts and seeds. My skin cleared up a lot (I sometimes got pimples despite being in my 20s), I have more energy and feel calmer and more at ease internally. I have a more lean and fit body, even though I dont exercise much (though I want to change that and workout more). These are just some of the benefits.
At least I fixed this dimension of my life. Eating better. It gives me motivation and hope that I can also fix, or at least improve, other dimensions of my life as well. My next goal is to become more industrious and productive. Its possible dude. But the beginning is always the hardest. Its not easy. Its hard changing your life. Dont give up. Just try again. Sounds probably ridiculous coming from someone who only managed to improve his diet but yea. Maybe someone gets inspired or motivated when they read this. Positive longterm change is seriously possible if you just seriously try and stick with it for long enough (Id say 6 months at least).
I ❤️ college! Thanks Dr. Peterson
@30:00 minutes onward you explained my situation perfectly, like it's out of a storybook. I have been trying to pick up the pieces for 3 years. Thank you for this.
Greatest Mind of our era... I feel so lucky to be able to watch Jordan Peterson's lectures.