Nightmare Time 2 ABSTINENCE CAMP Reaction | Starkid's Hatchetfield Musicals
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Reacting to Nightmare Time - Abstinence Camp was like... how many times can you say "weird" on a video until your brain finally processes the weirdness?
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Two questions:
1. Who was the Axe man???
2. How many times did I say "Weird" on this video?
So the axe man was a puppet made by Nick. A ton of the original Starkids did puppet stuff in college that’s why Starship was full of puppets and I guess Nick still makes puppets in his spare time or something?
WILD prop to just be made
Are you serious???? Is there anything that man can't do, it genuinely looked like someone dressed up. Madness!
One of the things you asked in the video is why Ted brought Peter to the camp. To me, Ted presented the experience as a rite of passage. He had to go through with it, so Peter had to do it, too.
Already answered, but yes, Lumber Axe is a puppet (chest up) that Nick controls. In the music video, Curt is the moving Lumber Axe (the legs and stuff) with the puppet. Also, Corey and Bryce actually filmed their parts at different times and they were edited together.
Nick's clearly the real star of this episode
Joey is so good as Peter in NPMD but this version of him holds a seriously special place in my heart. Nick Lang is just too good.
theyre both so good as peter that now whenever i think of abstinence camp and read fics about it, i can only imagine nick, but ofc whenever i think of npmd and read fics about that i can only imagine joey. i like to think their experiences in each timeline were so different and shaped them to be different enough that its easier for me to quite literally picture them as different people
PLEASE do not skip Killer Track. The parts with Duke and Miss Holloway... probably the best bittersweet romance Starkid has ever written.
God, I love Nightmare Time. No two episodes are the same, but they always have something sweet, something gutwrenching, something gory and something funny. And they're all unique. I could watch 15 seasons of Nightmare Time.
Fear not, Killer Track is coming... ;)
Killer track has to be my favorite ep
@@wishpaw2201Same!! I could watch 15 seasons of just Miss Holloway and Duke
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You asked about Ted and why he would send Peter to the Abstinence Camp knowing full well The Axe Man was out there? Well here's my theory. I don't think Ted believe in The Axe Man because, at the time he attended Abstinence Camp, The Axe Man didn't exist. As he said to Peter, it was nothing more than a story to scare the campers into not having sex. Do some reverse math. We know that Jerry and Jeri created the Abstinence Camp shortly after they had sex and The Axe Man was born so that would mean that Ted is either the same age as Jerry and Jeri (like within a year or two) or Ted is younger than Jerry and Jeri. Reading between the lines of what Ted says to Peter, one can safely assume that The Axe Man had yet to make his debut at the time Ted attended Abstinence Camp. So that would make Ted pretty close to Jerry and Jeri's age. And if that's true, then The Hatchetfield Axe Man is a story that Jerry and Jeri made up to scare the campers into not having sex. This would also mean The Axe Man was, at that time, The Axe Baby... minus the Axe. In their zeal and fervor to keep their promiscuity hidden and in their misguided attempt to raise their son to be abstinent, Jerry and Jeri, inadvertently caused The Hatchetfield Axe Man to become a reality once the boy came of age, hence Jeri's confession to Grace Chastity, "I only gave him the axe to chop would, not people!" And I think that explains why Ted sent Peter to the Camp. The Hatchetfield Axe Man didn't exist back when he went and he saw right through Jerry and Jeri, realizing it was all made up at the time. And since he had to go to Abstinence Camp when he was a kid, there was no way Peter wasn't going. It's the old Parental Guardian mentality of, "I went through this so you have to go through this too!" I do believe that if Ted knew the Axe Man was real, he would never have sent Peter there.
Now I hear you and others in the comments saying, "But he stopped the car short of the Camp and told Peter to walk out of fear, didn't he?" To that I say, no. No he didn't. He did that to screw with his brother. And there is one piece of concrete evidence that proves that The Axe Man didn't exist back then. Peter finds Ted's Porno Mag in Solitary Confinement. That means Ted put it there when he was put into Solitary Confinement back when he attended Camp. Furthermore, the fact that it was there means not only did he put it there, but he used it before he hid it. If the Axe Man actually existed back then, he never would have gotten away with it. The Axe Man would have killed him. And this brings me to Ted's ultimate motive for sending Peter to Abstinence Camp. While, yes, I do believe what I said above about forcing Peter to go through something he went through, I don't believe that was his Primary Motive. I think that Porno Mag was his Primary Motive. I think he sent Peter to Abstinence Camp because he knew his little brother. He knew Peter would get thrown into Solitary Confinement. And he knew, once inside, Peter would find the Porno Mag. And I think Ted wanted him to find it. I think Ted's ultimate motive was to use Abstinence Camp and the Porno Mag he hid in Solitary Confinement all those years ago as a "coming of age" experience for his little brother. Little did he know that Peter would find the one thing at Abstinence Camp that Ted only found once in his life, completely screwed it up, and has never found it again: Love.
I love your explanation. Girl Jerry even says her son was over six feet when he was 2, and now he is about 8 feet, so he´s what, five years old? He definitely didn´t exist in Ted´s time.
Let's just take a moment to appreciate Kim's comedic chops portraying a horned-up Girl Jeri.
considering how many shows starkid have set there, i think it's honestly amazing that the jerries might be the most unsettling people in hatchetfield. and they're not even played by jeff !
Also, it is nice to see what seems to be the proper start of Kim Whalen doing Starkid comedy character acting (which she did in abundance in Nerdy Prudes, much to my unending delight).
i love that in the song axe man, you get the line 'watching nerds run for their lives' followed by the hatchet town motif. appearing consecutively just as they do in the songs from nerdy prudes must die, in the song opening the story that introduces those characters.
OMG I never even noticed that!!
Been watching a lot of Smosh lately so seeing Angela is even funnier than usual
It’s really funny to see so many of the comments mention her StarKid connection, but I’m glad that happens, because she’s absolutely fantastic both in StarKid and in Smosh (I’ve been getting into Smosh over the past couple months.)
Another Banger. Another banger by Angela Giratina from Smosh
The axe man is a puppet! Nick made it. There was a video somewhere of him talking about it. I wanna say it was during a stream?
Edit: Found it! For anyone curious, Nick talks about how the puppet was made and how it's operated starting around 6:26:36: ruclips.net/user/livehOxGIMmsy6w?feature=share
Is Nick becoming in a kind of Jim Henson ??? 😮
That is crazy. I fully thought that was a person in a modified version of one of those Halloween mask that articulates with your jaw.
I find it fascinating how Angela and Mariah are utilised. In a way, I'd say they are the first proper on stage/screen dynamic that Starkid have properly establish. They seem to love the contrast between Mariah's cooler, more relaxed demeanour and contrasted it with Angela's warmer, more eccentric tendencies. Because they do this dynamic with them a lot; Grace and Steph, Zoey and Hayley, Willabella and Webby are kind of a more serious version of it in "The Witch in the Web", there's even a more amicable version in "Yellow Jacket" which I won't go into because spoilers.
As someone who find type-casting...interesting (if sad in its limitations) and especially considering Angela's involvement in Starkid started by replacing Mariah, it is kind of wonderful that they have this unique, very watchable dynamic that continues to persist.
They are also IRL best friends
@@thegamingknight2096 love that for them. 😊
I love how much you vibe with Axe-Man! It's definitely one of my favourite songs from Nightmare Time. Corey and Bryce just sound so good together!
Also, your reaction to the line: many have died along the way in Virginity Rocks is perfect!
I totally agree - StarKid, especially with NMT, get so weird and so graphic and it seems too much but somehow the writing of Lang brothers makes it work. Can't wait for you to see the rest of NMT2!
Bryce is incredible! There's another new member who's introduced in the story you missed! They're both in killer track and it's amazing
Yellow Jacket is my personal favorite of these, its very heartfelt whilst still being very *nightmare time* I'm excited for that one 🙂 I do enjoy this one too though. Jon and Kim were a hysterical duo, and I'm with ya on Kim's vocals 😅 🔥 enjoyed the reaction!
Ahhhhh been waiting for this one!! I think Abstinence Camp is my fav Nightmare Time ep… besides Killer Track and Time Bastard cuz I can never pick just one😂
I feel ya 🤣
Those three are my favorites too
@@professorrock4698 You my friend, have great taste 😘
I love this ep so much because of the atmosphere they created feels so real. I can imagine all the scenes in my head like a movie (same with Watcher World).
The chemistry between Lex and Pete is amazing amazing
the songs in this episode are INSANELY GOOD I am absolutely obsessed.
Oh and I get excited to see new Starkids too! Bryce has such a distinctive and strong sound 👌 looking forward to seeing more from her.
You and me both :)
she is so good in NPMD
I love the props you’re giving to Nick for playing Pete and the Narrator, just wait until you get to the episode called Daddy!
This episode is great, it really shows off the talent of these guys especially vocally! I can’t wait to see the rest of the Nightmare Time episodes!
My reasoning with Ted is that there was no Axe Man when he was at camp, it was just a regular abstinence camp. He went when he was a teen, and he’s gotta be in like his thirties now (I think in Time Bastard he went back like 10+ years to his college self?). And they said the Axe Man grew at an alarming rate, he could be five years, three years old even. Who knows? Going off vibes only, the Jerrys seem mid-twenties-ish and Girl Jeri said she had the baby as a counselor, so probably eighteen or so. The Axe Man is relatively new then, and if Gabe’s stories are to be believed, around 5 kids have gone missing. That seems to me like he’s only been killing the last year or so. As for why Hatchetfield isn’t suspicious of this, I have many reasons. 1. A lot of people go missing in Hatchetfield. 2. Everyone in this town is wrapped up in their own dramatic stuff. 3. The police force is Sam, there’s no way he gives a shit. So that’s why I think Ted is fine with taking his brother to camp. It’s the older sibling thing where you kinda sympathize with the thing your parents forced on both of you, with a teasing “It’s your turn to suffer now lol” As much of a sleazeball Ted is, I think he genuinely cares about his bro and wouldn’t take him if he thought there’s a murderer on the loose.
If you didn't clock it, Peter is the (recast) hot chocolate boy from The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals.
Watching again made me so hyped for NPMD. I didn’t see the digital ticket (but did see some spoilers) so I’m super excited for the pro shoot to finally hit RUclips!
Can’t wait to see Killer Track, I loved that one so much too and the music was great!
I watched NPMD and holy shit, none of us are ready. That pro shoot is going to blow our socks off. And the cast album... oh yeah. I NEED it.
NPMD is the funniest Starkid show. I’m stunned they can do that but oh my god I spent the whole show in pure joy
The axe man was a puppet lol haha IT WAS SO GOOD! Nick made it!
Also there's this new 'musical' going around (I think it's being developed or hiring people, unsure the details) Epic the Musical, and maybe you'd like it. Has to do with greek myths and such. :D
Think the only thing that you kinda missed to do with this (no spoilers) is that Grace and Gabe both appear in the story before this. But they're not really major characters then. This is the main episode for them
Abstinence Camp and Killer Track are my favourites from NMT 2 but the two that had me in tears at the end were Killer Track and Yellow Jacket.
love this episode, probably my favorite of this series
btw just a heads up for Perky's buds when you finally watch it: it is super funny but very fucking gross lmao, just... prepare yourself
Oh no 😬 Thanks for the heads up!
I'll be slightly more specific: emetophobia tw. It's 1 scene mimed w/o prop mess, but still pretty disturbing in context ngl.
I think Ted survived the abstinence camp because of the "scare tactics" they used.
Based on Time Bastard, Ted was very much like Pete, a nerd, the only huge difference from these two is I feel like Pete is willing to sacrifice himself for the ones he love while Ted is always afraid of actually doing things, runaway from the problems.
(which also resulted in him not being able to confess his feelings to Jenny)
So the fact that the first thing Ted mention about Abstinence Camp being "They use scare tactics" feels like those tactics actaully worked for him.
I don't think he believed the Axe Man was 100% real, but to some degree..I think he did since he talked about how he could hear the footsteps and Axe dragging on the ground every night and THIS seemed like it genuinely scared him, if he didn't believe it was real, he wouldn't be scared but since he did..yk
While he was able to sneak in contraband, I think he never actually tried all of those dirty behaviors.
This is a good one to get you ready for NERDY PRUDES.
Abstinence Camp is considered one of the best episodes of this season, so glad you got around to it! Just a heads up, though: its never outright stated in Perky's Buds, but one of the main characters of the episode, Ziggs, is nonbinary!
Great reaction! I l also loved the theme song for this one, I think it´s my favorite, after the Nightmare Time theme song. And I can´t wait for you to watch the first story of the second episode, it´s about someone that I love very much and I know you love too. 🥰🥰🥰
Yesssss I've been awaiting your nightmare time series!
Never stop making content!!
This made me ridiculously happy, thank you, I'll try ❤
I don't think it messes up your timeline no. I really love Yellow Jacket, so looking foreward to that one. But I love them all.
Same, I can't wait to see Barbra react to it!
I know I'm a year late, but I'm not sure the axe man was even around back when Ted went to the camp. Assuming he's the same age as his co-workers from TGWDLM, he'd be in his thirties. So it would have been over 10 years ago that he attended the camp.
Even if the axe man was already around, he might not have been as active. Maybe he just scared the kids instead of killing them. That would explain why Ted was traumatized by the axe man but still survived.
My favourite part is that Grace chastity has been around since the guy who didn’t like musicals when Bill syas deb called her a nerdy prude
did you watch perky's buds on your own?? i feel like you would like that one a lot since Emma is in it
Gotta watch Killer Track, it’s such a good episode
I kinda wonder, how old is Lil'Jerry?? Is he is just a little kid???
If you’re looking for more musical recommendations, I would highly suggest Chess the musical. And this take may be controversial, but listen to it in concert. I’m one of the few who loves the original broadway cast recording more, but the concert version is easier to follow
i believe that the axe man was a puppet? might be wrong though
You should listen to Vanities! I virtually never heard anybody talk about it and it’s a really amazing story about 3 teen girls who were peak popular in high school and how life and their choices shape the lives and how friendship changes.