This podcast has helped me understand the link between our turning circle and our brand. It's not the turning circle per-se. But the fact that it is generally linked to an iconic branded vehicle. Removing the turning circle means we will be driving the same saloon cars as the other mob.... meaning the further blurring will be occurring! KEEP THE TURNING CIRCLE, and MORE IMPORTANTLY. LETS KEEP THE ICONIC VEHICLE!
I started out thinking we could have an alternative vehicle if we scrap the turning circle but I found Trevors argument so compelling that i think it is imperative we keep it
As I’ve said on Twitter, it’s not just about u-turns, it’s the manoeuvrability the steering gives the vehicle. If you’re in busy traffic you can get out of much tighter places than any other vehicle.
We can already chose any vehicle we like, we just have to swap our square identifiers for round ones. The turning circle is needed more now than ever. With all the restricted turns I'm using it more than ever. Last thing we need is more vehicles doing multi point turns all over the place, got enough of those already.
17:44 Lots of talk about identity yet the point has just been made, they’re sold all over the world, in the UK they’re sold privately, they’re vans, ambulances, camper vans, the only thing making it a London taxi is it’s for hire light, maybe the Black paint but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a few privately owned LEVC in black driving around London.
Why couldn't some investors come in and revive the Metro cab that had the court case with LEVC? They won did they not? Oven ready cab and ready to go. That would be really really interesting.
The hardest part was completed with the Metro cab. The prototype model is already made. Surely that's a big expense gone there and then. The fact that LEVC skinted them with the court case is a bit unfair but surely people like Sherbet, HP, Cabvision and some outside investment could use the prototype as the shoe in. It also has the iconic shape and look. Win win.
I’m not sure a passenger is going to get in and say I’m glad I’ve chosen you you have to turn in circle come on move with the times most places you do a U-turn you can get a ticket
I did start off with the same point of view, but what sways me is Trevor's argument of our identity along with the fact it seems it will not be much cheaper with any competition
@@WizAnn320 dean if you remember ply for hire use to be our identity I’m sure you’re familiar with the abstract of law which defined ply for hire. It’s a pretty weak argument that the UCG are saying the turning circle is our identity totally untrue. Regardless of what vehicle we use we will be. The only vehicles applying for hire or is the UCG and the LCDC going to put a sticker in our vehicles to say we have the Turing circles Still only one vehicle. After many many years, let’s face it doing. The knowledge is not a viable business option, especially with one vehicle which only lasts 15 years.
@@bells1969 I am not a fan of the 15 year rule, As it is intended to keep sales going. Trevor does talk about how we have already lost a lot of our identity. Grant is in favour of getting rid of the turning circle. I was also in favour as i thought the new ford looked nice. The crux of the argument is will competition be cheaper and will people buy it? If not then why would a competitor enter the market. And is the purpose built taxi the last defining factor of our identity
If you had a competitor would you buy it? and would it be any cheaper? And would we just lose our identity? From the prices I see of other electric vehicles for the general public I don't think they are over priced
It'd be nice to know what vehicle you drive. I am happy about my TX turning circle (musher outright), I think it helps me a great deal during working. I agree the price of the TX is extortionate, even being a niche market, it should be a little lower and I like Trevor's idea of having TFL buying them and scrapping the VAT. Then again lots of cabbies are just professional moaners and lazy. They would want to rank at Padders and Vic, doing 6 hours door to door, having a £30K vehicle and earn a monkey a day.
This podcast has helped me understand the link between our turning circle and our brand.
It's not the turning circle per-se. But the fact that it is generally linked to an iconic branded vehicle.
Removing the turning circle means we will be driving the same saloon cars as the other mob.... meaning the further blurring will be occurring!
KEEP THE TURNING CIRCLE, and MORE IMPORTANTLY. LETS KEEP THE ICONIC VEHICLE!
I started out thinking we could have an alternative vehicle if we scrap the turning circle but I found Trevors argument so compelling that i think it is imperative we keep it
As I’ve said on Twitter, it’s not just about u-turns, it’s the manoeuvrability the steering gives the vehicle. If you’re in busy traffic you can get out of much tighter places than any other vehicle.
I used to love the way my Fairway steered. (Not at high speed) it was a joy to manoeuvre
We can already chose any vehicle we like, we just have to swap our square identifiers for round ones.
The turning circle is needed more now than ever. With all the restricted turns I'm using it more than ever. Last thing we need is more vehicles doing multi point turns all over the place, got enough of those already.
I am just nodding in agreement 👊🏻
keep the turning circle it is the reason why we are unique
getting rid of it will blur the lines and make us just like the rest of
KEEP IT
I agree
17:44 Lots of talk about identity yet the point has just been made, they’re sold all over the world, in the UK they’re sold privately, they’re vans, ambulances, camper vans, the only thing making it a London taxi is it’s for hire light, maybe the Black paint but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a few privately owned LEVC in black driving around London.
They are sold in other formats thats true but i still think its number one identifying feature is that it is a London Taxi.
@@WizAnn320 True, but this move maybe watering its identity down.
Please take Trev's blood pressure into consideration lads
I am very worried for him, Truly he needs to meditate and go on a yoga retreat weekend
🤣🤣🤣@@WizAnn320
This cant be good for Trev's health!
Whenever we have Trevor on we have a Defibrillator near by
Why couldn't some investors come in and revive the Metro cab that had the court case with LEVC? They won did they not? Oven ready cab and ready to go. That would be really really interesting.
They went broke defending themselves. It really is a small and restrictive market and all competitors all seem to fall away as no one buys them
The hardest part was completed with the Metro cab. The prototype model is already made. Surely that's a big expense gone there and then. The fact that LEVC skinted them with the court case is a bit unfair but surely people like Sherbet, HP, Cabvision and some outside investment could use the prototype as the shoe in.
It also has the iconic shape and look. Win win.
Saw some brand new latest generation Ford Transit hybrid vans getting delivered today. Could they make a £50,000 taxi out of them?
This seems to be the model that will be attempting to enter the market, but no where £50000 they suspect nearer 70
No..
Levc could produce a txe without a turning circle
Thats True, and the question would then be is it much cheaper?
Outlays are killing us ,so something got to change imo ,£350 I’m paying,big chunk of change imo
Is that your renting price or the payments you are making to buy?
Must be rent as I rent mine for £340 a week absolute killer. This job only busy 5/6 months of the year
Trevors in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks the card mandate and the zec txe haven’t been massive positives
I would probably agree with you apart from the "Cloud Cuckoo" part
I’m not sure a passenger is going to get in and say I’m glad I’ve chosen you you have to turn in circle come on move with the times most places you do a U-turn you can get a ticket
I did start off with the same point of view, but what sways me is Trevor's argument of our identity along with the fact it seems it will not be much cheaper with any competition
@@WizAnn320 dean if you remember ply for hire use to be our identity I’m sure you’re familiar with the abstract of law which defined ply for hire. It’s a pretty weak argument that the UCG are saying the turning circle is our identity totally untrue. Regardless of what vehicle we use we will be. The only vehicles applying for hire or is the UCG and the LCDC going to put a sticker in our vehicles to say we have the Turing circles Still only one vehicle. After many many years, let’s face it doing. The knowledge is not a viable business option, especially with one vehicle which only lasts 15 years.
@@bells1969 I am not a fan of the 15 year rule, As it is intended to keep sales going. Trevor does talk about how we have already lost a lot of our identity. Grant is in favour of getting rid of the turning circle. I was also in favour as i thought the new ford looked nice. The crux of the argument is will competition be cheaper and will people buy it? If not then why would a competitor enter the market. And is the purpose built taxi the last defining factor of our identity
The turning circle is no longer needed in London. It’s nothing to do with safety it’s just LEVC holding the monopoly on an overpriced taxi.
If you had a competitor would you buy it? and would it be any cheaper? And would we just lose our identity? From the prices I see of other electric vehicles for the general public I don't think they are over priced
It'd be nice to know what vehicle you drive.
I am happy about my TX turning circle (musher outright), I think it helps me a great deal during working.
I agree the price of the TX is extortionate, even being a niche market, it should be a little lower and I like Trevor's idea of having TFL buying them and scrapping the VAT.
Then again lots of cabbies are just professional moaners and lazy.
They would want to rank at Padders and Vic, doing 6 hours door to door, having a £30K vehicle and earn a monkey a day.