During pyrolysis of plastic we get more harmful gases like SO2. Also, before we reach temprature to break C---H bond we get various products like petrol etc. Also, basically the plastic has to undergo various cleaning process before pyrolysis because all plastics is basically a mixture of plastic and various different compound suiting the needs. It will be good if SWG can clarify these things because we badly need a way to replace plastic to usable product. Thanks.
My background is in electronics and software so it's difficult for me to answer questions about chemical reactions. It is my hope that because pyrolysis takes place in a closed container we will be able to trap and safely remove or further process noxious components.
if used in an educated manner it can be used . consumer waste if segregated at home in plastics and food will be sufficient to eliminate the creation of SOX . utilize plastic waste in swg. as per my knowledge the common household plastics dont have sulfur in them. some specific plastic do have them but there are not that common. in southeast asia i think if we utilize this to treat shopping bags problem it might help us overall. i will be trying this in near future. i hope it works
Looks to be a feasible project which can be tried on a small-scale experiment and evaluate it for about three to four months can give a feasibility of this electric generation from plastic waste will give confidence of its project for commercial purpose.
Modern technology can be used to farm methane with your kitchen waste and lawn waste in two one cubic meter plastic containers. You can compress those methane fully automated into a light-weight, installable propane tanks for charging your Aptera in the backyard 7/24. If you don't use them to charge your Aptera, you can use them to cook your food or warm your house as well. All kitchen waste will become fertilizers eventually, which you can sell/donate to vertical/roof-top organic farms around metropolitans.
Thank you for watching the video and thanks for writing about another way to generate power from waste materials. The great thing about these techniques is that they can be applied at the site of where the waste is generated which saves fuel and reduces pollution caused by trash hauling. Also, these techniques enable us to generate energy in a distributed fashion instead of at large monolithic generation facilities that require an elaborate power grid.
Thanks for commenting. If the only goal is to produce energy, gasifying wood is fine, but I'd like to get plastic waste out of the environment too. There are now solid state microwave emitters that are more versatile, controllable, and efficient than magnetrons. The hope is that by using microwave heating we have more control of the heating so we can adapt the system to many different kinds of waste and other materials. There's some interesting work being done at Rice University in Houston, Texas that may be applicable.
Remember the old saying, don't keep all your eggs in one basket? The only reason we have LARGE utilities, is for them to make loads of MONEY. I agree with you on, having lots of small plants for everyone! I like the idea of doing your own recycling, also it would be good using wind, sunlight, water power to make electricity. This is how it should be, we would have more than we need. But, until the controlling money people are removed, we will just have to do this quietly for ourselves.
Thank you for watching and commenting. It's still surprising to me that the default solution to generating and distributing energy is large centralized facilities attached to elaborate power grids. For many regions, generating power where it will be used makes more sense. Plus, it allows each home or business to select waste to energy, solar, wind, geothermal, and other sources of energy. Each site can use what works best for them. They don't have to wait for a utility company to string a cable to them. And if any of them fail, the others keep working.
The carbon, if there is any remaining, gets filtered out and safely stored. It can then be recycled into other products. It is also possible to adjust the system to produce graphene, a valuable form of carbon. Depending on the type of plastic, there may be a relatively small amount of carbon. In any case, the carbon is kept under control and out of our environment.
Guys can any of you could say in general how to do animation like this or what is the best free website or app to create like this visual animation prototype of our science project
Glad you asked about the animations. The animations were made using Apple Keynote and Pixofield Keyshape. The sound and music were done using Apple GarageBand. Keynote and GarageBand are free on macOS. The Keyshape app costs about $40. This style of animation can be done with most presentation software like PowerPoint. I am working on the first lesson in a series that show how to do this. The series is called "Making Moments" It's mostly a matter of using free presentation software, but thinking of the videos as movies instead of presentations. Thanks for watching and commenting.
The first lesson in the series is now available on MoviesByMartino. It's titled " Making Moments - Lesson 1 - How to ease into animation with a Keynote cartoon". It should get you started and I think it will answer a lot of your questions. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/If1G2IsSqms/видео.html
No units have been built or installed yet. However Levidian Nanostructures has a larger system that is similar. If enough people express interest, perhaps they or another company will make them. In the meantime please share the videos so others see the possibilities. I'm working on a video with updated information. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Thank you for the reply..It is unfortunately absolutely necessary to have 1 unit in operation for at least 6 months as a pilot plant/unit to be enable the design engineer to collect real time data which can either be used to improve the concept or use the data as marketing material.
I'm watching again and again and like the idea more and more. So COP is 15? Can you do a simulation with a fuel cell instead of Stirling engine and generator?
Thank you for watching the video. The estimated input to output energy is 15. I avoid using the term "estimated coefficient of performance (COP)" because it is normally applied to heating and cooling devices, not power generation. I'm not an expert in either field, but I hope people who are more expert than me will see the promise of SWG and expand on it. There are multiple permutations of the process. The intent of the video is to spur thinking about the process and the permutations, e.g. using a fuel cell. I'm still learning about them and how one might be used in a SWG unit. Again, thank you for watching this video. Feel free to share the link.
Yes. Biomass is yet another material that can be gasified in the SWG system. I'm pretty sure there are other types of gasification systems already doing this. A few years ago Bill Gates helped finance a prototype for a microwave gasification toilet. May not exactly the biomass you have in mind, but biomass nevertheless. Thank you for watching the presentation and for taking the time to post a great question.
If the flash joule method is used the carbon converts to graphene which can be sold and used in electronics, carbon fiber structures, and other applications. In other methods the carbon can be sequestered and stored for other uses. Thank you for watching the video and for taking the time to comment on it.
Have you done an actual test, sterling to electrical energy efficiency at 92% more likely closer to 30% but still lots of hydrocarbon waste has lots of extra energy to be harvested. Is there any test units being developed.
Greetings @moviesbymartino, I love your videos, on SWG Do you know of any company now that build SWG units that produce Hydrogen ? pls advise, thank you
I haven't found a company that makes SWG devices. It seems that a few are exploring the concept. The videos are intended to encourage such companies to design their own and sell them.
That value is a guess at the power input from the microwave oven in the experiment. The information about the test did not specify the power rating of the microwave oven, but let's call it 1000 joules/second. E_in = 1000 joules/second X 90 seconds = 90,000 joules Because RUclips limits the number of characters in the description, I had to shorten some of the text. In doing so, I lost this detail. I added it back in and removed one of the links instead. Thank you for catching this and asking about it.
Just burn the plastic at very high temperature so that no unburned (pollution) fuel leaves the chimney. No need for microwave heater and much less residue. But I know of no Sterling engines that achieve 40% thermal efficiency! Even our vehicles (obviously not Sterling cycles, but still thermodynamicly limited heat engine cycles) only get 20 to 25% efficiency.
Thank you for watching the video and for another approach. I hadn't considered very high temperature incineration. If the burning is done in a way that contains polluting chemicals until they burn, that would probably work. Thanks again for your idea!
With plasma gasification you xan evaporise the waste including plastics who convert to singas that can operate an engine and also heat csn be used to run a generator or turbine engine ti create electricity
I think the temperature has a lot to do with whether you get liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) or free hydrogen from the pyrolysis of plastic. Thanks for raising this topic. I've seen videos and articles about it. I hope people who know more about chemistry and business will turn SWG into a business. Thanks for watching! Feel free to share the link.
@@markinoWindsurf hydrogen is not made from oil its made from water and electrolysis you don't know about gaseous isotopes LPG is made from pyrolysis of plastic
I didn't mean to brush over that detail. We should be able to break down the toxic molecules, extract hydrogen if there is any, and convert the rest to graphene. If there are any other toxins remaining, at least they would be contained and controlled. I don't have a general solution for what to do with them. Each chemical probably requires different treatment. Most household plastics should break down without leaving toxins. Plus, it is likely that plastics with food waste can be processed so the plastic does need to be cleaned. Thank you for watching and pointing out the unaddressed issues.
Yes, trata correct that si not easy, remember plastic produces bad chemicals the idea is like the pirolisys. I don’t consider it’s a good idea to burn plastic in our houses and as my friend up there said you still have garbage to manage when burning the plastics
Though there is not enough money in home waste gasification for existing large companies, there is enough money to start a new business of making, installing, and servicing small scale waste gasification units.
During pyrolysis of plastic we get more harmful gases like SO2. Also, before we reach temprature to break C---H bond we get various products like petrol etc.
Also, basically the plastic has to undergo various cleaning process before pyrolysis because all plastics is basically a mixture of plastic and various different compound suiting the needs. It will be good if SWG can clarify these things because we badly need a way to replace plastic to usable product.
Thanks.
My background is in electronics and software so it's difficult for me to answer questions about chemical reactions. It is my hope that because pyrolysis takes place in a closed container we will be able to trap and safely remove or further process noxious components.
if used in an educated manner it can be used . consumer waste if segregated at home in plastics and food will be sufficient to eliminate the creation of SOX . utilize plastic waste in swg. as per my knowledge the common household plastics dont have sulfur in them. some specific plastic do have them but there are not that common. in southeast asia i think if we utilize this to treat shopping bags problem it might help us overall. i will be trying this in near future. i hope it works
Mix the plastic with corn starch to break it down
Please don't try this at home. Safely preventing and monitoring the creation of dioxins just doesn't scale down to a dishwasher.
Looks to be a feasible project which can be tried on a small-scale experiment and evaluate it for about three to four months can give a feasibility of this electric generation from plastic waste will give confidence of its project for commercial purpose.
Yes, that is exactly what I am hoping will happen.
Modern technology can be used to farm methane with your kitchen waste and lawn waste in two one cubic meter plastic containers. You can compress those methane fully automated into a light-weight, installable propane tanks for charging your Aptera in the backyard 7/24. If you don't use them to charge your Aptera, you can use them to cook your food or warm your house as well. All kitchen waste will become fertilizers eventually, which you can sell/donate to vertical/roof-top organic farms around metropolitans.
Thank you for watching the video and thanks for writing about another way to generate power from waste materials. The great thing about these techniques is that they can be applied at the site of where the waste is generated which saves fuel and reduces pollution caused by trash hauling. Also, these techniques enable us to generate energy in a distributed fashion instead of at large monolithic generation facilities that require an elaborate power grid.
Would it be worth the output you get vs the input energy for the magnetron? Just stick to normal wood gasifiers and you can't lose I'd say.
Thanks for commenting. If the only goal is to produce energy, gasifying wood is fine, but I'd like to get plastic waste out of the environment too. There are now solid state microwave emitters that are more versatile, controllable, and efficient than magnetrons. The hope is that by using microwave heating we have more control of the heating so we can adapt the system to many different kinds of waste and other materials. There's some interesting work being done at Rice University in Houston, Texas that may be applicable.
Could u use solar power to run the microwave heater that would burn the plastic waste
Remember the old saying, don't keep all your eggs in one basket? The only reason we have LARGE utilities, is for them to make loads of MONEY.
I agree with you on, having lots of small plants for everyone! I like the idea of doing your own recycling, also it would be good using wind, sunlight,
water power to make electricity. This is how it should be, we would have more than we need. But, until the controlling money people are removed,
we will just have to do this quietly for ourselves.
Thank you for watching and commenting. It's still surprising to me that the default solution to generating and distributing energy is large centralized facilities attached to elaborate power grids. For many regions, generating power where it will be used makes more sense. Plus, it allows each home or business to select waste to energy, solar, wind, geothermal, and other sources of energy. Each site can use what works best for them. They don't have to wait for a utility company to string a cable to them. And if any of them fail, the others keep working.
Very quietly and don not brag about it, wood pallets are well used for this.
So where did all the carbon go from the plastic?
The carbon, if there is any remaining, gets filtered out and safely stored. It can then be recycled into other products. It is also possible to adjust the system to produce graphene, a valuable form of carbon. Depending on the type of plastic, there may be a relatively small amount of carbon. In any case, the carbon is kept under control and out of our environment.
Guys can any of you could say in general how to do animation like this or what is the best free website or app to create like this visual animation prototype of our science project
Glad you asked about the animations. The animations were made using Apple Keynote and Pixofield Keyshape. The sound and music were done using Apple GarageBand. Keynote and GarageBand are free on macOS. The Keyshape app costs about $40. This style of animation can be done with most presentation software like PowerPoint. I am working on the first lesson in a series that show how to do this. The series is called "Making Moments" It's mostly a matter of using free presentation software, but thinking of the videos as movies instead of presentations. Thanks for watching and commenting.
The first lesson in the series is now available on MoviesByMartino. It's titled " Making Moments - Lesson 1 - How to ease into animation with a Keynote cartoon". It should get you started and I think it will answer a lot of your questions. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/If1G2IsSqms/видео.html
Great concept.......are any of these units been installed and where will I get the latest price and availability information
No units have been built or installed yet. However Levidian Nanostructures has a larger system that is similar. If enough people express interest, perhaps they or another company will make them. In the meantime please share the videos so others see the possibilities. I'm working on a video with updated information. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Thank you for the reply..It is unfortunately absolutely necessary to have 1 unit in operation for at least 6 months as a pilot plant/unit to be enable the design engineer to collect real time data which can either be used to improve the concept or use the data as marketing material.
I'm watching again and again and like the idea more and more. So COP is 15?
Can you do a simulation with a fuel cell instead of Stirling engine and generator?
Thank you for watching the video. The estimated input to output energy is 15. I avoid using the term "estimated coefficient of performance (COP)" because it is normally applied to heating and cooling devices, not power generation. I'm not an expert in either field, but I hope people who are more expert than me will see the promise of SWG and expand on it. There are multiple permutations of the process. The intent of the video is to spur thinking about the process and the permutations, e.g. using a fuel cell. I'm still learning about them and how one might be used in a SWG unit. Again, thank you for watching this video. Feel free to share the link.
Can we use biomass instead of plastic waste for the input ?
Yes. Biomass is yet another material that can be gasified in the SWG system. I'm pretty sure there are other types of gasification systems already doing this. A few years ago Bill Gates helped finance a prototype for a microwave gasification toilet. May not exactly the biomass you have in mind, but biomass nevertheless. Thank you for watching the presentation and for taking the time to post a great question.
Where does the carbon from the posting go ?
If the flash joule method is used the carbon converts to graphene which can be sold and used in electronics, carbon fiber structures, and other applications. In other methods the carbon can be sequestered and stored for other uses. Thank you for watching the video and for taking the time to comment on it.
Have you done an actual test, sterling to electrical energy efficiency at 92% more likely closer to 30% but still lots of hydrocarbon waste has lots of extra energy to be harvested. Is there any test units being developed.
Thank you for your question. No, to my knowledge there have been no tests or test units that address this issue.
Creo sería buena idea que puedas hacer el proyecto sobre este tema ya que solo propones teorías y de la teoría a la práctica hay mucho camino
Si, eso sería bueno.
Greetings @moviesbymartino, I love your videos, on SWG Do you know of any company now that build SWG units that produce Hydrogen ? pls advise, thank you
I haven't found a company that makes SWG devices. It seems that a few are exploring the concept. The videos are intended to encourage such companies to design their own and sell them.
I don't get where E_in=1000j/s is coming from. Please help. Thx
That value is a guess at the power input from the microwave oven in the experiment. The information about the test did not specify the power rating of the microwave oven, but let's call it 1000 joules/second.
E_in = 1000 joules/second X 90 seconds = 90,000 joules
Because RUclips limits the number of characters in the description, I had to shorten some of the text. In doing so, I lost this detail. I added it back in and removed one of the links instead. Thank you for catching this and asking about it.
I dont understand i microwave plastic all the time and nothing happens
The plastic needs to be in an airtight container and heated probably at least 800 degrees.
Go back in time gas shortage, man build these gasification on the cars not plastic but wood.
Yes, gasification has been around for a long time, because it works. Thank you for your comment to remind us. And thanks for watching the videos.
Just burn the plastic at very high temperature so that no unburned (pollution) fuel leaves the chimney. No need for microwave heater and much less residue. But I know of no Sterling engines that achieve 40% thermal efficiency! Even our vehicles (obviously not Sterling cycles, but still thermodynamicly limited heat engine cycles) only get 20 to 25% efficiency.
Thank you for watching the video and for another approach. I hadn't considered very high temperature incineration. If the burning is done in a way that contains polluting chemicals until they burn, that would probably work. Thanks again for your idea!
With plasma gasification you xan evaporise the waste including plastics who convert to singas that can operate an engine and also heat csn be used to run a generator or turbine engine ti create electricity
DUDE During pyrolysis of plastic IT CREATES SOMETHING SIMLER TO LPG
I think the temperature has a lot to do with whether you get liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) or free hydrogen from the pyrolysis of plastic. Thanks for raising this topic. I've seen videos and articles about it. I hope people who know more about chemistry and business will turn SWG into a business. Thanks for watching! Feel free to share the link.
@@markinoWindsurf plastic doesn't make hydrogen because hydrogen is made from water not oil
@@markinoWindsurf hydrogen is not made from oil its made from water and electrolysis you don't know about gaseous isotopes LPG is made from pyrolysis of plastic
89%waste including some very toxic chemicals and no mention of how you would handle the waste.
I didn't mean to brush over that detail. We should be able to break down the toxic molecules, extract hydrogen if there is any, and convert the rest to graphene. If there are any other toxins remaining, at least they would be contained and controlled. I don't have a general solution for what to do with them. Each chemical probably requires different treatment. Most household plastics should break down without leaving toxins. Plus, it is likely that plastics with food waste can be processed so the plastic does need to be cleaned. Thank you for watching and pointing out the unaddressed issues.
Yes, trata correct that si not easy, remember plastic produces bad chemicals the idea is like the pirolisys. I don’t consider it’s a good idea to burn plastic in our houses and as my friend up there said you still have garbage to manage when burning the plastics
The big industry will not allow , no money for them.
Though there is not enough money in home waste gasification for existing large companies, there is enough money to start a new business of making, installing, and servicing small scale waste gasification units.
The plastic is not "gone" this is misinformation
Perhaps converted or transformed would have been better.
Lame
I'll do better. Thanks for watching this one!