How Gasification Turns Waste Into Energy
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024
- Turning waste into energy has usually meant incineration - that is, burning our trash. But this method has major environmental drawbacks. Gasification could be a better alternative. It’s an old technology that proponents hope to repurpose as a cleaner and more economical waste-to-energy solution, and now a number of companies in this space say they’re on the verge of commercialization and expansion.
We produce over 2 billion tons of waste per year, a number that's expected to grow by 70% by 2050. We've long sought ways to turn all this waste into energy, but this has usually meant incineration - that is, burning our trash - a method that many environmentalists say is far too polluting.
A better solution may lie in gasification, an old technology that advocates are trying to repurpose as a way to deal with our waste. Gasification companies don't burn trash, instead they turn into a synthetic gas, in a process they say is both economical and eco-friendly.
This synthetic gas can then be converted into a wide variety of end products like electricity, diesel fuel, hydrogen fuel, or ethanol, depending on whats most valuable in any given market.
While in the past, gasification companies have struggled to scale-up and meet their energy production targets, now companies like Sierra Energy, Enerkem and Plasco say they're ready to commercialize and expand.
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How Gasification Turns Waste Into Energy
Managing any form of waste becomes easy the moment we start considering waste as a resource and not a problem
In reality, the viability of waste as a resource depends on regulation more than on technology:
The price of landfill waste disposal, mandatory separation of waste, carbon tax, etc.
@@udishomer5852 :Rather than single rubbish disposal, have it separated at the home between recyclables, food, green waste and general waste.
@@Will-nb8qkpeople are stupid and lazy. It'll never work.
@Will-nb8qk like the Norway does, people have auto waste collection and that makes sorting very easy
I really admire Mike Heart's commitment in making a difference and his work with Sierra Energy. Kudos to you, Sir..
I was involved in a project supplying shredding and conveyor systems for the original Plasco plant in Ottawa in 2005. Even then you could see the advantages of gasification. Getting paid to take your waste and getting paid for the electricity being made sounded like a great way to reduce waste in our landfills.
Yes, however at what cost (capital/operational)? such facilities require enormous capital investment with relative long pay back period, that's why investors are skeptic. For the sake of environment, with lesser interest in the economic benefits (or at least no to look for short or medium term economic benefits), I believe a government must step in heavily in various ways for such systems to become mainstream.
@@Eisenhower1956 Or much better, gazillionaires to step in
@@philipborbon4200 which as 6:40 shows, they have that with Breakthrough Energy
@@Eisenhower1956 the government is already giving them that first bit of support as the video explained with Fort Hunter Liggett
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Great to see this getting going, really frustrating it's taking so long. Converting garbage to energy & other usable products should already be the norm!
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For every missed mark and every set back and for everyone who keeps pushing forward...thank you. For never giving up.
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Very interesting, thanks. This a very difficult process due to the very variable nature of the feedstock(Waste), and always vulnerable to rogue elements getting into the waste. I spent 30 years in the recycling business, every day saw new problems, actually we called them challenges.
Good luck to all those trying so hard to make the world a better place.
CNBC has another video called "Why the US is turning towards recycling robots" here ruclips.net/video/1mxaN_xqQh4/видео.html . Perhaps similar robots can get Rogue Elements out and make the feedstock more consistent!
Using the first principles thinking method can help overcome the problems. For example, getting industry to reduce the numbers of different types of materials, incentivise the public to sort waste and provide public facilities for sorting. Being proactive always helps!
Program some robots to sort through the stuff.
@@ismailnyeyusof3520 bro the citizens pay for trash removal. The city doesn’t foot the Bill.. we pay Sewer, water trash bill. So really we are the ones paying for it. You aren’t incentivizing anybody to sort anything when they have to pay for the service..
Ismail Yusof This is what I’ve also been saying for a while. We must condense the use of many of these old materials, and use much more raw, renewable materials for almost EVERYTHING. We don’t need many of those plastics and we have the tools now to let all of it go. These choices affect and will play an integral part on how the renewable energy aspect goes in this world.
I can turn myself into energy, that’s amazing.
xD
Liam Walsh lmao
Are you worthy? That is the question. Hardly.
Well, humans are all made of energy of some form, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@konsul2006 shut up simp
PLEASE HAVE THIS TECHNOLOGY IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. we are the most saturated countries with single use plastic like sachets. :(
The fact that they need favorable climate change policies tells me that this tech is not economically viable.
@@TheFalseShepphard oil 🛢 money 💰 🤑
Third World Country term doesn't exist anymore.
Every country is potentially a developing country.
Don't worry ..THEY WONT..THEY WILL ONLY PUT THESE FACILITIES IN RICH WHITE MANS COUNTRIES INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HELP PUT WEALTH AND HEALTH IN TO UNDER ECONOMIC COINTRIES..SHAME ON THEM ALL RICH COUNTRIES.
We currently have six WTE plants, mainly around Manila and Cebu. Seven more are being built, but environmentalists are trying to block them.
This technology has a great future, I'm convinced.
No i does not, just mine coal
you're easily convinced
Jared Houston I mean if you have seen how the trend for the advancement of technology has been you would be convinced as well. At one point we will not only know how to get all our energy in a clean way, but able to manipulate the climate to our liking
@@ahmedshousha1958 that would be something
@@Cortesevasive you should know that fossil fuels will run out someday!
It would sure be nice if this could take the place of landfills and recycling, along with creating a renewable fuel source through production of waste turned diesel fuel.
The Japanese have technology that makes it possible to clean emissions from waste to electricity plants
With the software made in DOS
Electron Resonator yeah yeah nuclear bomb etc. just try using that again see how murican you are
What is the name of this Japanese Technology, S500? I would love to learn more about it. Hope everyone is having a nice day!
yea they are called Aspers
S500 Triumph but america won't use it, the process will be difficult and long time, I even bet how long american would be last.
Good luck to you all! We need all the solutions we can get!
Waste to Energy plants , solar Geo thermal ! There's Two Already !
This is how it works. We put stuff in the top and stuff in the bottom and we gat gas.
Wow real in depth explanation
Exactly. Sounds like bluff technology.
looks like it hold molten iron in the bottom and use it to burn all the waste. but, how could it sustain itself with those trash?
Yeah. I don't think CNBC did its homework on it
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We currently waste so many resources transporting our trash and "recycling " to other countries where...oh damn a lot of it gets burned
The main reason they export garbage is so that the government can say their exports are up , it is as stupud as it sounds
I said this 20 years ago and I'm still saying it: Thermal Depolymerization ("Gasification") is our future.
And for the last 25 years, we have said waste gasification to fuel cell energy is the future :)
And in 20 years you've still not done anything about it
Gasification is a nice stop-gap for the next 50 years at best but hydrogen gas from solar is next and then Thorium reactors modified to digest the 95% of power still left is spent Uranium fuel rods with 100% efficiency and finally fusion reactors using H3 from the moon +D2 from the Ocean. Maybe in the far future we can harness a micro singularity for hyper massive energy outputs. All we have to do is build a mirror around it with two energy outlet holes and feed it water and a bit of plasma energy and you get a 10 Billion % power return (Until it stops spinning which is like trying to stop a massive planet from rotating). The biggest hurtle is government corruption and their corporate handlers.
If we had another 40 years, sure, but we don't. We need to be sequestering carbon, not spewing it. This is a great way to get rid of waste and turn it into hydrogen and electricity, but until they find a way to sequester the carbon, this will just be another source of emissions. Not as bad as landfills but still way off the mark.
@@johnslugger I think fusion will be the silver bullet, but how they are going about it I think is wrong. What they should be doing is microwaving hydrogen gas in a sphere that will allow the centre to form into a plasma and achieve fusion, and use that heat output from the fusion to boil water into steam. This also means we can control the reaction by turning off the microwave, as the fusion would act as a multiplier.
I hope someday we can have this kind of technology in the Philippines. The amount of waste here is just highly alarming. If I'd be a billionaire here, I'd spend it with this technology for sure. How I wish. Great job! 👍
Man is our country always percieved as dangerous and poor
If the people are working together, then it is possible to solve the landfill solution there.
The largest amount of plastic pollution of our oceans comes from your part of the world..
@@OmmerSyssel that is very true
@@nia6849 the government doesn't have any regulations every time the trash arrives at the landfill, we do have segregation but that's not enough.
Please reduce the usage of disposable plastics. Disposable forks, spoons, plastic bags, cups, etc. are too much for our mother earth.
And yet recycling centers want them to be clean, without food and oil particles.
That is an impossibility and just makes people forget about recycling stuff.
@@Aereto well, it's all about habits and regulations. Many countries are having very strict rules on garbage disposal, eg. Japan, China, some European countries. Every country should work on that.
Yes we should all do that. But as fun fact, If there is no more plastic in the waste then these waste to energy technologies might become unattractive.
I'm used to use plastic, holland has trucks picking them up and It is so handy you buy fresh food in plastic and you expose it in containers that will be picked up...
@Jeff: Disposable plastic derived from algae is biodegradable.
Thank you #CNBC, #Katie Brigham, and #Jeniece Pettitt for producing this video. This is exactly the kind of content that we want to watch and hear about!
This technology still has a 30% residue called char, which still has to be sent to landfill. Co-processing is a more efficient, affordable and scalable choice. The problem is the low landfill fees
The problem is rampant consumerism, hypocrisity of "developed" countries and the fact that 3rd world countries were accepting waste for too long.
And somewhere on the list below those 3 is the one, you've mentioned;)
The char can be used as a building material.
There are a number of variations in gasifier designs. Some are partial gasification, which can produce biochar or pyrolysis oils. Others are complete, as in nothing left post conversion but CO/H2 syngas and a molten pour of rocklike slag. None of these materials need be sent to landfill since they're fairly inert and can be utilized as road base, sandblasting grit or formed into building blocks. More info:
biorootenergy.com/alcohol-solutions/gasification-incineration-whats-the-difference/
Jay Toups you’re absolutely right, this is my main research focus. one novelty thats entering pilot plant stages is the sorption enhanced water gas shift. it essentially makes the whole process even more efficient by combing CO2 sepration with WGS reaction, and by doing so it increases hydrogen yield by shifting the equilibrium towards H2. it’s extremely extremely promising, it produces almost half the price of what H2 sells for per kg with a traditional gasification plant. just by integrating into the gasification plant in place of two stage WGS and series of PSA units
They Should ! Put all !! The Waste into the VOLCANO !!
Building them individually for plants, cities and certain purposes is what counts, selling the energy back to the national grid and being paid to take on the waste too, putting the emissions underneath the ground for mother earth.
I remember reading about this in Popular Science over a decade ago. It promised that landfills full of waste could be processed and left empty. Still waiting for the tech to happen.
I remember that article! It focused a lot on the plasma gasification system mentioned in this documentary. Having said that, if you look at Sweden, they are an example of how this process (waste-to-energy) can truly be used to cut down waste: They actually run out of waste to burn for energy from time to time, and import it from neighbors.
Why don’t we use the Swedish model if they have one that works
Sweden's W2E industry doesn't use gasifiers, they use incinerators. The major reason Sweden can do this is because they're using the waste heat in central heating districts as well as generating electricity. Central heating districts are rare in urban environments.
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My dad used to work for a startup company that used gasification to turn farm waste into energy. It was about to get a deal with a local town to start supplying energy for them, but Ameren heard about it and convinced the town to not do it. The company went out of business. ☹
This is genuinely a giant step in the right direction. It’s going to be a game changer! It’s potential will mushroom!!!
Unless energy prices drop dramatically lol
Great comparison of three processes. I worked in the steel industry for years. You don't put coal in the top of a blast furnace . It breaks down with heat and you get all sorts of crap out the top. Same with Lurgi gasifiers or any type of counter current process. That's why blast furnaces use coke, basically pure carbon. Same if you put in waste. You require extensive gas cleaning. Plasma a tricky heat input with electricity. I think the fluidized bed is the best bet. Relatively high uniform temperature breaks everything down into basic hydrogen and carbon monoxide and some CO2. A great use for syn gas would be for producing Direct Reduced Iron. The present process uses natural gas, sends it through a high temperature catalytic reformer to produce guess what ? Carbon monoxide and hydrogen. Use waste and leave the natural gas in the ground.
How about not creating waste in the first place, and recycle useful materials instead of burning them?
@@OmmerSysselThat is the ultimate goal. But the reality is we’re not that good at reduce, reuse and recycle. And we currently have billions of tons of existing waste accumulated over the years sitting in landfills producing methane, or burning in incinerators producing dioxins. You can’t expect the world to change its way overnight. But you can seek better technologies to replace old ones, while gradually changing the world.
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@@OmmerSyssel recycling plastics is ultimately a failure, the only way is reduce and then destroy
We have been doing this for decades in Edmonton, Alberta. Our Cloverbar Dump has methane gas capture from old underground waste dumps. The gas is blended with natural gas for the nearby power plant and now we are scaling it up for feed into the nearby oil refineries. It's not some future energy. It's in our city now.
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I live in Switzerland, next to an incinerator, elementary school, and park. Most European incinerators have efficient scrubbers so that there is no significant air pollution. In Switzerland you pay for city garbage bags to use for your non-recyclable trash (basically you pay per bag of trash). Recycling is free, so you are encouraged to recycle and reduce waste to save money. Trash goes to the incinerator and is converted to energy and the waste heat is used to heat water in the city. The USA has neglected to innovate its waste cycle because land for landfills have been so cheep, but it's time to make a change for the sake of the environmental impacts and to stop leaving our trash problems for future generations. Let's see how gassification evolves, but in the meantime incinerators with scrubbers are a good start.
Trash needs to be put to work not sitting on curb am I right?
Oh man… This is wrong on so many levels…
First, “gasification” is a very inefficient process, it takes a long time and yields a relatively small amount of gas, and in the meanwhile, all that waste sits there, rots, ferments, and disintegrates into pretty dangerous chemical compounds you have to deal with. We had a lot of gasification plants, which did not work with municipal waste (which can vary _wildly_ in its composition), but with agricultural waste (which is relatively consitent in its composition and is easy to ferment), but even that did not work, and I do not know of a single one, that could survive without government funding. And now, that said government reduces that funding, they close down one after the other, because they are simply not viable.
Second, the reason why so many new waste incineration plants are built, is, because they actually _are_ economically, technically and ecologically viable, and what remains of the process, well, ashes are amongst the chemically most stable substances in existence, and even if should they contain stuff like toxic metals, ash is basically an ore, and a good form to store them and reclaim those metals later. Dioxines? Nope, what comes out of the firing stack is CO₂, N₂ and water vapour - everything else is held back in the filters, burned again, and stored as ash.
Third, to continue with the environmental aspects, modern waste incinerators, well, you are better off living next to one than living next to a busy street. I do not know what standards they have in the U.S., but the catalytic filters a decently recent plant uses do, as I said, leave nothing but CO₂, N₂ and H₂O.
Fourth, gasification does have a future, only not for municipal waste, but for sewage. Contrary to solid waste, it can be processed easily, has a great yield, and a great overall economic potential. So, the box you bought your pizza in? Forget it, burn it, makes more sense. What becomes of your pizza after digestion, well, that is another matter entirely, with great potential to replace gasses from fossile fuel. Chilli night for more electricity, baby!
… I do not know where CNBC gets their information, but you can savely dismiss this video as non-factual.
mediocre man 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ do you propose to the waste problem????
Did you watch the entire video? The plant in Edmonton has been somewhat successful for years. They are not using agricultural waste. It seems like the problems you are presenting have been addressed in recent work. You're talking out of your ass about the past.
Very well said. #1 in garbage business is input consistency.
@@takoleta I think he already told, you need to reread his comment.
@@takoleta Burning the waste, heat = electricity and warming houses
This exactly!!!! Just this year I presented plasma gasification to my local waste management officials and they said a plant is already going up in my state's capital. Gasification is so cool and it would be amazing for the environment if it caught on!
Theres a plant in my area that does exactly this. And I'm glad they do.
I had a cousin who worked at a county incinerator for many years don't know what department he worked at but he developed cancer and passed away in his 50s I guess he worked in the fly ash department!!
If these were built to neighborhood scale, we could drive energy costs way down even further
Higher Oil prices is the biggest incentive and ultimate solution to promote and encourage innovations & solutions to most of our environmental problems
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Used all over the developed world. Very effective at waste management
Already exist in Norway (Oslo).
CNBC is doing an awesome job with these videos. They are incredibly entertaining
So basically similar to a Flux Capacitor.
Hear, hear!
Actually it is Mr Fusion
Hmm.. why haven't they think of that.. !?!?
The irony of this is very rusty.
This technology sounds amazing, and great for the planet. Only issue that I can see is large investment required, plants to be built. And then a study 10-20 years later to see if it works.
Dapat may ganyan sa pinas para malutas na Ang problem dyan sa payatas
In sweden we've been burning waste in sweden for 20-30 years, while producing energy..
Does your city buses use ethanol from food waist from the local hospitals?
Know they do in other cities in Sweden.
Yes, but you are likely using mass burn incinerators with electricity or steam recovery. That technology is also common as well throughout portions of the US (mainly Northeast and Florida). These newer technologies are exciting.
Doesn't Norway do that as well?
@@annakoch9972 yes, Anna all of Stockholms innercity busses and cross city buses run on etanol. Stockholm city retreaves compostation from the houses and turns it into etanol.. if I dont misremember I have studied abroad now for 1.5 years.
Sweden uses incinerator facilities to turn their trash into energy...gasification is different
I was wondering what exactly they do with all the junk that goes to the landfill, for some reason I thought they just bury it all in the dirt lol
Go Canada. Great to see Canada leading the way in a lot of these technologies.
We will be in contact with each of these 3 companies to establish a model in our region! Lets help make the hassel of trash a thing of the past!!
As an experienced chemical engineer having commissioned and operated Fisher Tropsch Syntheses plants and Heavy Oil Residue Gassification plants I fully agree with the waste gasification processes to produce methanol, ethanol, kerosine, etc. without producing any CO2 emissions. Please realise this gassification method which could also be applied to Coal-Gassification has a higher cost price of about 20 % in comparison with energy produced by combustion of coal, oil or natural gas. Possibly the cost reason is the only bottleneck for Waste and or Resid Oil/Coal Gassification. In Germany Leuna at the TOTAL Oil Refinery are 6 heavy residue visbreaker and FCC heavy bottoms oil gasification reactors in operation since 1999, producing methanol for MTBE production, for information. Regards, from Hulst, The Netherlands.
You make me question your "expertise."
It's not chemically possible to embarque into gasification without the production of CO2. CO2 is a byproduct of degradation of organic material- That's inherented.
Does gasification reduce the greenhouse gas emission? Absolutely, especially that It's better than leaving it on the landfil.
FYI: I'm a Natural Gas Engineer (extensive knowledge in Natural Gas Processing)
@@jovelnom
The gasification process I should have mentioned is in fact POx Partial Oxydation Reactors, producing at about 1280 celcius and 60 bar pressure through incomplete combustion wih pure Oxygen injection only about 45 % of CO and 55 % of H2 and producing lots of heat energy, no CO2 is produced through these POx Partial Oxydation Reactors process. We did this in Germany at Leuna ELF/TOTAL/MIDER 2000 new grass roots Oil Refinery and we had 6 reactors working full time, one in cleaning, and the produced CO + H2 was used for methanol and so on.
By the way I was the Start-up and Operations Manager durig 3.5 years of all the heavy end units (9x) of this refinery.
I agree with you that for FISHER TROPSCH Synthesis reactiosn ;you need about 20 % CO2, so you can consume injected CO2.
I have been responsable for commissiong of 3 Fisher Tropsch Synthesis plants at Mossgas, Mosselbay South Africa.
Best regards from the Netherlands.
We can do it but not yet we just need more subsidies and the public needs to pay more,where have I heard that before?
‘Soon’ is a pretty bad answer ngl
under trump's administration, it sounds right. But since 3rd world countries start to return our trash. It'll speed up the process.
Very bad as it's closer to "Never"
Yeah, just like nuclear fusion
@@Jacob-nr9dn I was going to say the same thing.
i mean new york city already has 30 percent of its trash turned into energy
Why do you add sub-titles for Professor Sushil Adhikari, but not for any of the others?! He speaks perfectly clearly.
For certains feedstocks, combining anaerobic digestion and gasification could give better results.
Consistently amazed by the high quality work CNBC puts out. You guys should start doing 20-60 min documentaries
Paid troll
it seems to me that thermal treatment of municipal waste into synthesis gas has been carried out on a technical scale since the end of the 1990s in Europe (Karlsruhe 225,000 Mg / year, closed in 2004), and there are currently several such installations in Japan. However, the synthesis gas produced is used for energy production and not for the production of specific substances...
@15:15 so true.I really enjoyed this video,CNBC please keep us updated.
Great job. A realistic solutions on the card. Need to understand about the waste composition, local atmospheric conditions and the projected waste composition etc
That’s what we need in our country, the Philippines 🇵🇭
CNBC: "We can produce gas with ovens."
Austrian art school rejects: "Ja! It iz time!"
Noooooooooooooo
There are numerous other videos here that show waste-to-energy plants that do still incinerate trash, but they capture the harmful emissions, only releasing clean steam into the air.
Since I actually have a clue having dealt with coal gasification and synfuels, it takes energy to make the oxygen needed for the gasification, and energy to heat the biomass and gasify it. It takes energy to clean the gases produced (not all are friendly) and more energy to reform the gases into the actual gases (hydrogen and carbon monoxide) known as syngas to turn into usable products.
Energy balance needed will require natural gas being burned and a negative energy balance.
and energy to compress the gases, nuclear power solves all this
@@fivethree0 completes rather than solves.
When do we start creating less trash? When do we start making stuff that lasts longer?
Very informative video. Great job reporting this CNBC.
This has been done small scale on rural farms for a while. Farmers and ranchers have been using windmills and methane digesters for electricity before any of us.
Methane digesters have also provided steady cooking fuel in poverty stricken parts of Africa, reducing the prevalence of food-born illnesses.
If cities did this and collected the bio waste from the town...kitchen scraps, leaves, grass clippings.. .they would nearly eliminate their fuel bills. Imagine city cars and buses running on renewable natural gas they produced? Disneyworld does it...so can we!
I'm sorry but there's a mistake. Most incinerator plants have filters and they filter out the toxins
This is really the most elemental form of recycling. A dedicated solar energy farm would make such an operation at least break-even. It's all about capturing and releasing energy. People are getting good at that.
Thanks government for making it so hard to innovate with your ever changing regulations.
This is so much better than recycling.
There is no value for recycling plastic or paper since those quality is reduced due to the recycling process, you’ll just end up with the same problem but with less options to deal with the waste.
Gasification is a good idea. We should definitely have more gasification facilities in America. Is there a way to support these facilities?
Learn more about the technology and the company, spread the word and try to gain public support.
Hi Jose, are you interested to support ?
@@lnz3704 yes
Plastics burnt in the absence of oxygen can be turned into crude oil. That could help lower cost of fuel and conflicts associated with hydrocarbons resources
1:40 its over 9000!
XDDD really
The meme is strong with this one
This is the conversation big corporations and businesses should participate. To be realist as significant generation become involved
We're starting from the wrong end of the situation. Solutions shouldn't be at the end result. We need to start at the beginning which is manufacturing 👍
Agreed but believe given the urgency of e energy shortages in Europe and ongoing climate crisis we need”all the above”. We need a thousand simultaneous initiatives to reduce climate change-improved recycling, improved product design, more efficient manufacturing, reduced consumption, waste to energy, solar, nuclear, wind, bio plastics and the list goes on…
its the most sensible way to deal with our trash, I don't know why it isn't being used everywhere already.
Suddenly my faith in humanity has been restored.
I took a tour of a Waste to Energy power plant in Long Beach California over 30 years ago. They save money by not needing to ship the trash out of the city, lower labor and fuel costs for the trash collecting trucks. They only generate a "Nominal 45 MW of power" but the real savings is in labor, fuel and less maintenance on the trucks, as well as doing 3 dumps of 12 cubic yards per day, (10 hour days now) instead of 2 dumps per day, and maybe needing overtime if the truck was stuck in traffic on the freeway during the second run to the dump about 14 miles north of Long Beach. They burn the trash, and use a lot of natural gas to generate steam, then 45 MW of electricity.
It would not take to much effort to switch this power plant from burning the trash to converting the trash into another fuel system, then sell that fuel to local vendors. Also possible will be bringing in trash via the many rail lines to the Long Beach facility, saving many miles of truck trips on the crowded roadways.
The question was and still is: Why didn't they do this in the 70s like they said they were going to do. Answer: They built Nuclear plants that politicians made tons of money off of. In New England they built a plant that cost far more to construct than we were told it would. The cost of electricity because of the construction and operation of this plant caused the base cost of electricity to sky-rocket. If they had funded the construction of waste to energy gasification plants, we would now have FAR less waste and electrical power supply problems. Pease include some corruption and graft for the politicians so they will get behind this endeavor.
Carbon Dioxide is the air plants breathe in...less carbon dioxide means less plants
Philippines is looking for this kind of technology for a very long time. As We are limited in using land fill bec. We have a law thats banning burning of waste(clean air act).
Hope you could pitch your product here.
it's not just burning, it's gasification.
LighteN Ing you mean even gasfication is banned?
@@edriantito6703 You may want to watch the first few minutes again to understand the difference between the two.
LighteN Ing i do, understand the basic difference between the two. that’s why im hoping that the tech could be pitch or use in the philippines in the future.
@@edriantito6703 You are right :) I don't think the other guy understands what you mean though.
Powerhouse Energy (Stock Ticker PHE) and EQTec (Stock Ticker EQT) - already doing this, have working models, time to invest. PHE deals with unrecyclable plastics, I can't believe people really don't know about this technology. These stocks are fractions of pennies right now!
We need to tackle overpopulation, family planning should be enforced in relatively poorer countries to do so, combined with better healthcare and regular vaccination will do the job. Will also solve poverty in some cases.
@Zeksteve vaccination AND family planning, both together.
The world's population is already massively dropping. What you talking about?
@@Dave102693 they work together to decrease poverty, that's what I'm saying.
😹 Oh yeah something must be done about the exponential growth of the population size in Africa. It doesn't help anybody, it only increase the rate of poverty and the fact that all the leaders in Africa are incompetent makes the situation worse.
We in India would love to have this one for our each city if it is commercially and environmentally successful
Indore is already doing this. Their public buses are fueled by bioCNG
I am concerned with the viability of this technology because I've never heard of it and it's been around for a while. How they deal with toxic/poisonous materials in the garbage? How much might that eat away at their sustainability? How costly is it to remove those materials? Where does it go? Perhaps it's a non-issue for them at this point.
Assuming gasification really picks up speed we could potentially excavate already existing landfills for energy, so long as there aren't any unforeseen drawbacks to that. Landfills already combust methane that builds up underneath, why not utilize that as well?
Nevada has a good system…well, it sounds good. Methane capture from their landfill is utilized.
Please keep going. Fuel prices in the UK are currently at an all time high, we are being hammered from all directions. Please sell this to us, I'm sure your prices will be manageable and competition for the fat cats. We are a small land with far too many people in it and our plastic waste here is huge. My Country need your helps and fast. I believe you're the future for us. Thanks for all that you do.
I can do that already! I eat apples, digest them, then create gas at a personal level.😄
Nathan Costa Just eat medium spicy Biryani. You can double the output.
Lame
@@anji_tangirala I ❤ spices & Indian food!😀
Eating Beans around the campfire.
that is a harmful gas.
This is good for everyone
This sounds like a breakthrough thats always 5 years away
under trump's administration, it sounds right. But since 3rd world countries start to return our trash. It'll speed up the process.
Come to Europe, almost all the public buses go on food waist from the local hospital and household trash. Have done that in 5 years or more.
Anna Koch Nah not in whole Europe, maybe in your city, but Europe is huge.
@@annakoch9972 Agree with Anton. Probably germany, switzerland, or norway. Highly doubt that slovakia or czech or ukraine has that. Advertisement failed.
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Thank you for a definitive explanation of the different gasification methods. I've been interested in fluid bed gasifiers for many years. I have a background in industrial insulation and would love to see this technology be applied at a small community scale. Perhaps something skid mounted to be distributed, which would minimize long distance hauling of trash.
Unless I somehow missed it, they didn't cover plasma gasification.
Good report. Thanks, Hope this gets going more. Loss of farmland to dumps is another good reason.
I wish I could turn my gas into fuel 🥴
Hold a lighter near your butthole
Crop dust your gf and convert her anger into energy
😌 I remember my first beer! Dutch Ovens are old news fellas, we are in 2020, not the 1970’s. Anyways, That doesn’t benefit me, I want my farts to be turned into fuel for my truck! Get to it.
Sergio Martinez you may have something with this..
@@GraV21 a fledgling industry? I must patent asap!
Indeed as the speaker at the end says, we should address the methane from landfills, but as that comes primarily from biodegradable waste (kitchen and garden waste) - the first thing to do is proper segregation at source and proper composting
WHY ARE WE NOT FUNDING THIS?! This is an answer to two existential threats!
A massive education program about not using plastics in grocery stores should be the first step. This needs to be addressed now in order to be able to decrease the amount of trash going to the land fills. Then, as these gas combustion plants get built and the land fills start getting combusted humans are not over filling them again. If the goal is to clean the Earth in order to save it, thus saving all that we're responsible for, we need to take aggressive steps such as these to make changes before further damage is done.
Hi kimberly can I add something?
The name should've been turning trash into cash.
So will this eliminate recycling as we know it today? I mean the “separate bin”. Recycling is extremely expensive but throwing everything in one bin and knowing that everything you throw out will be recycled into say electricity is extremely satisfying to hear. Plus it eliminates the terribly expensive cost of recycling.
Gregory Steven; I`m with you.
Plants like these could be a boon for certain countries in Africa, who have accepted kilotons of trash, including waste from electronics, from the Global North with nowhere to dump it. This could help bring down energy costs and bring stable electric power to more people. Of course, infrastructure issues need to be addressed, but I can see this solving more problems than it creates. Also, I wonder if this gasification can work with human solid waste.
We don't have waste to energy because of misguided notions about the relationship between CO2 and climate.
The incinerators are helpful specially nowadays of the pandemic, installations of those incinerators configured not to release carbon monoxides and harmful oxides, chuwastar, that also fully complies with environment standards for combustion of garbage and making energy as well for landfilling is no longer allowed, the laws were passed that protects both urban and rural areas not to have landfills as they are unhealthy due to lechete, that is harmful to the environment. Installations of those protects cities both urban and rural from any widespread virus disease infection.
I have a suggestion: if we have the ability to take the ashes of a cremated loved one and turn them into a diamond then why can’t we take all of the plastic waste and make super hard blocks. We could take those blocks and build entire islands in places that need more land. Like the island Japan built for a new airport near Tokyo. Those blocks could also be used to make road “beds” that are then paved over with cement or tarmac. There are potentially thousands of uses for blocks as hard as diamonds and we would actually be recycling plastic without harming the environment.
What's the cost?
E-Town Baby!
I feel him. Build own operate transfer lasted a while. But the competition killed the renwable part. Now its been about selling eqipment and technology.
They tried to get this going in the 80s in San Marcos, CA and the environmentalists blocked it.
Because all the tree huggers see is “ burning” of trash...... whatever we do moving forward is not environmental friendly regardless. people need to get over it, move on and find a model that fits the US.
If gasification is more economical why don’t markets gravitate to it?
The title reminded me of Back to the future 2 starting scene, when Doc filled Delorean with trash to power it
There is still a lot of work to be done.These companies still have to upcoming laws that will affect them.