FINALLY... Big Power Kit for Charger Scatpack 392 & Charger RT 5.7L Hemi...
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FINALLY... Big Power Kit for Charger Scatpack 392 & Charger RT 5.7L Hemi... Major Power Upgrade for Dodge Charger Scatpack and Dodge Challenger Scat Pack Engine's as well as Dodge Charger RT & Challenger RT 5.7L Hemi. Over 1,000HP added to these engine's using these Power Kits.. (MUST WATCH)...
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Every HEMI V8 whether it's a 5.7, 6.2 or a 6.4 is badass, fast and loud. The only difference is how much are you willing to spend on one. I am in a Mopar Car Club that has RT's, Scat Packs, Hellcats and Demons. Everyone in our club is happy with what they have.
I would love this on my Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 😍
No no no you only leave the 5.7
True 😂
Because the 5.7 is a workhorse. It’s not a street monster
@@williamrose7184ok
@GoldSheep48 that would’ve been a good idea
6.1 life
the main thing i had ran into when i had a 6.1 hemi was finding good mopar shops. When its not the shop its the parts quality. When its not the parts quality it becomes the price. For the amount I put into making my old 2010 SRT8 "688whp".... i made my 2019 Z07 vette 1247whp on its max map setting. They are so expensive or so many odd quirks throughout the drive train that made me double spend sometimes triple spend on labor time and forged parts. People forget how soft their drive trains are even in the new models. But dont get me wrong this kit is godly if it does gain the power reliably and not a nightmare to get installed properly by moderately decent mopar techs or shops. I was always afraid of modding it until i got a hellcat when they dropped the 2nd gen that is. Much easier to get reliable gains with a sturdy drive train. But again them shops aint cheap when i compared them to GM shop labor.
Most people dont go or are comfortable with anything past 800whp so this isnt advice im giving just opinion on a single owners experience so dont crucify me mopar fellas i still think they kept the most original muscle car feel and look. Plus a mopar was my very first car I will always love them a little more than my corvettes if i can snag a yellow ACR lol
Have a 6.1 300 and lemme tell you I felt this one man… such a beautiful engine but always something with it and when you wanna run more power like you said you always run into something and if you want quality with a 6.1 you have to pay big money with a LS in a vette few bolt ons and a tune and shell shoot flames past 200,000 miles such a touchy drivetrain with the mopars. A quality cam kit for LS3 is like 600-700 give or take and for a 6.1 over 1,200
There is no such a thing as a Z07 Vette. Haters gonna hate.
@@lucianoalvaradojr4605 only vette owners understand.... z07= 7th gen z06 ..... vs saying c7 z06 =z0"7" get it? #IYKYK
@@trotterofficial
The whipple SC is plug and play with the 6.4L and you can get 600-700WHP with stock engine, 7psi of boost. If you’re going to forge the engine might as well get a hellcat at that point unless you really love Scats or RTs
What do you think it makes on a 5.7L? I want to get a 5.7 300 as a daily and build hellcat charger as a project car if I can afford to
@@fullautok definitely need a 392 or 6.1 to get a hellcat
@@fullautokyou’ll come out cheaper and faster with a 5.7 then 6.4
That sounds dope, I mean , if you have the right rubber to try to control that. We all know the stock rubber isn't even up to the task of 485.
Everyone and their brother has a hellcat. Just bought that kit for my scat.
People keep saying get the hellcat instead of doing the kit but dont realize you'll probably find more people with a fully paid off RT or scat before you see a paid off hellcat, why get back in debt when your building a something with similar HP without breaking the bank with 5-7 loan yoy don't need 😂😂😂
It will make great lawn art when those wimpy 5 7's and 6 4's grenade. Not meant for boosy unless it's buolt and that 8k budget is out the window.
@@thisguyshorty3554 what do u have probably somthing slow
One of the wisest comments I’ve seen. For the price of any Hellcat you can have a super monster of a 392 or 345. I kept my paid off R/T when I got my Redeye & would gladly do as much as I can and learn the car intimately and be proud of something I can build. Yes I love my 800horse factory beast but there’s nothing like building your own to make it your own. Even if you totally screw it up there’s tons of 5.7s laying around since they’re work horse engines you can pull from 80% of Ram pickups & wrecked Charger cop cars for dirt cheap!
Because, like he said in the video, you need heads, tuning and fuel system updates to make this package work. It gets expensive, when you could just go to Carvana and pick up a low mileage Hellcat that was made to put down the power. If you use this aftermarket stuff and your tune flakes out, the whole thing blows up. Every increase in air flow needs a matching increase in fuel. And then there is valve geometry, those valves were not made to open as wide and for long as that CAM will make them open. That puts them in danger. Be careful.
@GoldSheep48facts
All these HP wars & nobody going to the track or lining up to even get they money back for what they spent. What’s the purpose?
Love the information. My only fear on getting one of the vehicles is getting robbed.
Upgrades needed for that Transmission rear end driveshaft better off going to buy hellcat
Ehhhhhhh idk you can get a hellcat end for kinda cheap nowadays with all this parting out and transmission
Also engine gotta be built to handle boost
Wow thanks for the news bro @Knockout 360. I had no idea that it was possible to get a 700+ hp out of a 5.7. I was actually thinking to engine swap to a awd Hellcat for my 2022 Durango RT. 👊🏿 ✌🏿
I would be wary about throwing 700 hp at the awd system unless it is the same one as the trackhawk
It’s beyond possible. The platform just cost a lot of money to build on. Before Summitracing even dropped these kits it’s been people building 1,000+hp 5.7’s. It’s the 4.6 of the Dodge world. It’s reliable, but you’re gonna spend a boat load to make power. With the money you’re going to spend I think it makes much more sense to buy this kit for a Durango, but not a Charger, or Challenger. You can get a Hellcat for $40,000-$50,000 used. You’re not getting a Hawk for those prices. So send it bro that Durango is gonna go craaaazy!
Not trying to rain on the parade but... $8,837.95 for parts. Plus the install cost... What's the install cost? Plus what about the tune and the PCM? Plus upgrades to the drive train? Hmmmmm might just want to buy a Cat instead. Just sayin.
I've been down this route my self with a Procharger on a 2013 Challe 392. Great product. Awesome car. The two didn't optimize together. I spent $10k on the install and upgrades. I eventually sold it and bought a Cat. All in all the Cat was a much better platform. Just my experience. But a cautionary tale.
Thanks 360
I think you should only add huge power to platforms that do not have a high HP option, never made sense to get the lower model and try and make it like the top model!
Better off going turbo
You’re only comparing this to bmw downpipe and tune. Any other car will cost around this much to supercharge or turbo💀
Tell me you don’t know anything about cars without saying it type shi
@@donkramer8848yes it does lmfao you’re just hating tasteful mods are fire on any car
@@AntChiulli-Chiulli_RS oh no, one of those if you disagree you are a hater people, modded car with 800hp, or a car with a warranty with 800hp that is built all around for it, seems common sense, no hate
I'm a minority here, Rubi 392 but I wanted to share. I found out with just 500 hp (headers, cat, chip, tune) on a 4wd chassis, the weak link is the TC (transfer case) when moving slightly out of stock territory. They use dual clutches inside to mitigate the AWD feature safely. You can bypass AWD with taser but it still relies on the stock TC unless you upgrade to Atlas. (7k parts only) So for a Jeep if you bought this kit and it was useable for '21-present, you would need to upgraded everything underneath- driveshafts, tc, brakes.. AND need to forge the bottom end, injectors, oiler, heat exchange etc. You will be +30k deep for this kit plus all the above & labor & tuned. Game over. 130k- used Lambo territory.
You’ll need a beefed up transmission, driveshaft and rear axles and probably a drag pack on top of all that
For that kind of power on a 5.7 you would definitely have to forge the engine and upgrade and transmission. I mean anything over 500-550 to the wheels on a 5.7 you’re taking a risk.
If you boost you need a at the very least a new set of rings to set the gap for boost but if you go that far better get some forged domes also
Would also have to upgrade the transmission. I have a cam and the 3.0 Whipple on my RT and I am at 585 to wheel. If I want to go higher would need to forge the bottom end along with upgrading the transmission
The transmission on the 6.4 is really good. I mean really good. has no problem handling 600 hp. And I’m pretty sure you have the same transmission in the 5.7? No?
@@williamrose7184 theyre zf 8spd trans, they hold up very well.
@@backs8189 yes they do
@@williamrose7184 I don’t think 5.7 & the 6.4 tranny cannot handle 600 to the wheels. That’s almost Hellcat numbers. You would need the Hellcat tranny
You’re trans on ur 5.7 is maximum power is 750whp after that you’ll need to think to upgrade or swap it with 8h90
You can make well over 500 WHP in a naturally aspirated 392 and it doesn't cost a fortune. Cam, FBO, Tune and like Hellcat injectors Will have you're 392 moving out!
At the end of the day you going to spend about 15 to 20 grand. Because you’re going to need Pistons crank tune labor, and many other parts.
Exactly. Not worth it.
Be careful with adding boost to the N/A platform, the HP 70 Tranny is only rated for a certain amount of torque. You may need to upgrade to the HP 90, plus forged internals. So, I have a feeling it will be more than 8 grand...lol
Nice kit, I have a 6.4 TA manual.
6.4s needs forged internals.. Any boost with the stock config will destroy the pistons -- eventually. 5lLb will give you a little gain and a blown engine not long after. You can get the same gain with a stage 1 cam and long tubes without killing the engine. The engine is really optimized to its capacity from the factory. Enjoy your car for what it is., or simply buy a hellcat if you are looking for real power at he same cost.
If you want the car to last this isn’t going to be cheap. Kit almost 9k, going to have to get the engine forged bare minimum 3k, then the install. A lot of shops I’ve talked charge around 8k-11k.
I'm old and retired on a fixed income so this is just wishful thinking for me, but there is nothing wrong with dreaming. And to think back in the late seventies and early eighties we thought high performance engines were going to be a thing of the past.
For a demon engine in a 6.4L that’s a no brainer you getting a great value for under 10K
That's great. Only problem is when they get done tearing up the transmission, and differentials trying to get all that power to the ground. Probably should have just spent the money and bought a demon or hellcat. What about the ratings of the transmission, clutch, and rears?
CAN is the key word here. It can make 1000hp, but any stock bottom end 5.7/6.4 is gonna blow around 700hp. It costs alot more then 8k to make 1000hp reliably.
Also note that the gen3 hemi and gen4 hemi are the same. There has been no changes to the eagle 5.7 since 2009. They did make minor changes to the 6.4 around 2018, but only minor going from 485hp to 500hp.
& to do it the RIGHT WAY will run you $15k-$20k ! Which is why I just went ahead & bought a hellcat instead
They also just dropped the supercharger for the camaro ss
Those damn tanks need jesus 😂
" _can_ get up to 1016 HP" . Sure, you can "can" do anything, if you throw enough money at it. You have to upgrade the transmission, entire engine, injectors, custom tune, DS, rear axles, diff, fuel pumps, etc.....
Dang I wouldnt have traded my 2019 R/T daytona for a 2024 nissan Z if this had come out sooner
I thought the 6.4L is at or near its fully optimized point? How long have they been boosting the 6.4L? How many vehicles? Any problems? I would wait awhile before purchasing. Make sure all the bugs have been ironed. Paid too much for my 6.4L.
It’s not 8k, with all the extra stuff you need and build motor plus labor tune etc. I’ll say 25k
Well I hope they make that overhead cam hemi !
I’m holding out for that stage 3 redeye, but I don’t know if it ever really coming
Yo love your content
No headers , no hellcat injectors , no one piece driveshaft , but I saw the e85 tuning suggestion
You’re not taking your 6.4 to 1000+ with that kit. It’s gonna cost you $15,000. By the time you’re done.
Sad to say but reading the comment's i have to agree not worth the price and getting it installed. I love Mopar so im no where hating because ive owned a couple 5.7 andba scat and currently own a 5.7 now. But what i dont understand why didnt they come up with sowmthing to reduce the weight of these cars. I mean you can have all that so called power but still getting gapped by cars with less HP and alot more less weight. I bought meb g8 last year and let me tell you wirh some simple mods it will gap mopar any day of the week. And you not spending no wheee near the cost.
Piston rings must be change,.
It’s going to cost way more than just 9k to make good power. Plus you’re going to have to get the trans built.
Plus installation fees 15k total
That ain’t so cheap 😅
The link shows for gen 3, so this would only work on much older 6.4 engines.
Bro, imma be real. If I’m not building the motor, I’d take a 5.7l over a 6.4l any day. The 5.7l handles power mods much better without blowing up
IMO, if you're not building a legit race car for the track, buying that kit for your daily RT and 392 is a waste of time and money. Just do bolt on's and a tune. Or just buy a hellcat.
Bolts don't produce any real poor on a 5.7. This kits fine for a daily and way cheaper than a Hellcat. Companies advertise max potential but to get 500hp out of a stock 5.7 is plenty. The prices you are talking is if your want max poor with E85.
I'm looking to something like this on my Daytona ... thinking of the twin turbskie setup by helion .. decisions ... decisions
Bro just show us ur car after the modification
I got a comp cam in my scat and oh boy i be putting them bolt on mustangs to sleep
Sounds like a great kit. At least it tries to put together a group of upgrades and not just one piece at a time. Not for the noob mechanic though.
I'm not hearing anything about (Pistons) Rings! etc. Dog n Pony show with this pkg!!!! Lookin @ 10K to 12 K to get it half a** right, then lets talk about the (Trans)!!! Got a Gr8 wrench in my corner, but this is a ticking time bomb, lots mor involved!!!!
never heard of comp cams??!?!? 😳
I have a nitrous kit 100hp shot. On top of my 396 stroker kit.. making 622 hp
Well there I was thinking about trading in my scat....nahhh that hellcat still kinda cool 🤣
One thing that makes it cool to me is that you can drop the power level from 700/800+ down to 500 while driving. This basically lets you have a scat and a cat in one which is perfect because if you had to drive as fast as possible anywhere but a highway, 500 hp seems to be the sweet spot where you won’t spin too bad on street tires in a charger or 300
If your 6.4 doesn't have forged parts, it's a hell of a risk. Even with forged bottom, the 6.4 has thinner cylinder walls. Huge risk! I'd pass with the 6.4 upgrade.
Not exactly, a good fuel system , good fuel and a bge 6.4 is all good for boost
Tell me you dont know what you're talking about, without saying it.
18+ 392s are bge blocks so its the same block in the hellcats
@@dublewis547 exactly its just the 6.1 not destroked, thinner walls my ass
Need that on my scat!!!
Not worth it just get a Hellcat or Redeye or just buy the new Mustang and get Ford factory super charger kit for less than $9k and be making Hellcat horsepower numbers.
Nobody wants a ford this is a Mopar channel
I saw it on a website. i forgot what the page was called. I thought this was a bluff of marketing 😳
So it’s a useless kit for the average 392 owner. Complete waste of time as soon as I seen the kit I was like wheres the pistons?
Oh sweet baby I'm here for this
I thought the 6.4 had weak internals and couldn't take big HP upgrades. Am I wrong?
First time hearing of com cams and Edelbrock....🤦🏾♂️😂 Where have you been? You dont have to forge for this kit, that's optional for absolute max power. Very similar setup on my 4.3 Mustang. Would consider this for my Grand Cherokee.
Sounds like it'd be better to just buy the demon or hellcat engine.
WOW, finally some content that is not related to glorifying some car clown in a Dodge trying to outrun the police... may be hope for this channel yet..
It’s gonna void y’all warranty’s y’all better leave them mfs alone until you pay for them
So bigger injectors and can handle the E85 getting all your parts will probably be around 13k then install another 5k and up. Only thing good about it is the fact insurance will be cheaper for the Hp you’re getting
I’d rather modify the 5.7 because it’s more growth & can handle power better…idk if the 6.4 is modded by a dodge dealer with just boost alone id be scared to drive that thing day to day the 6.4 is a great car when stock it’s cool when modified but I’d rather stick with 5.7 to modify
Cheap ain't fast, fast ain't cheap .. there's a reason why Magnusons and Whipples cost more than 80% of the price of that kit ... make of that what you will
5.7 hemi single big or twin turbo
I’m thinking of buying me a 50th anniversary Gold rush Widebody Shaker challenger number 25 of 70 made!!! How much of a target do you think I’m gonna have driving that special edition Scatpack my man??!! I’m thinking should I even buy it, knowing that there’s gonna be thieves that are gonna come after me for it!!??
Would you have to change the drive trian and add new fuel pumps?
Will it blow my engine if i get it and how can i contact them?
Looks like Mopar is taking notes from ford
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Cam and boost on a stock 6.4L🤔
Who would you trust to install and tune ?
Absolutely not worth it lol. 8gz yea right u can get it done for a lot cheaper and still accomplish that amount of horsepower smh done wit dodge going back Chevy fun while it lasted fr
where's the light no this is what Im looking for
Nope. Ill stick with the direct connection Stage 1 2 or 3 kits.
Are gen 3 2003-....??
It should work for a 2006 5.7?
I HAVE A 2012 DODGE RAM WILL IT WORK ON IT?
No love for the SRT 6.1 hemi's 😢
Correction: $8k "+ labor"
Of course ya need forged
Engine
Love the channel but think this kit is 100% misleading to someone uninformed on what you really need to make a reliable 5.7/6.4 with 1000+ horsepower. Not to toot my own horn or channel, but I've done it with both the 5.7 and the 6.4 and there is way more involved than just this kit. I know you said it a couple times, but this is not the only modification(s) needed to make the 5.7 or 6.4 reliable at those power levels. They glaze over everything else required or don't even list it. Not only will you need a built engine, injectors, and cooling like they say but all the supporting mods as well. Drop-in pistons/rods, forged crank, dual fuel pump minimum (I am moving to a triple pump set up this winter because I am running out of pump), the HP70 won't handle the torque so that will need to be built or get a transmission that can handle it, axels will need to be upgraded, tuning, etc. etc. The list is long and expensive. It takes a good $15-$20k+ on top of the price of this kit to make either of them even somewhat reliable at 1000+ horsepower. I am with you, I just don't want someone uninformed to think they can get this kit and make a reliable 1000+ horsepower without a significant investment beyond the price of this kit. I believe this is very misleading until they advertise at least some of the other required supporting modifications discussed above. Oh, let's not even begin to talk about the labor involved with not only the kit install but all the supporting mods as well.
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I'm pretty sure installing this kit will void your factory warranty.
They literally give you a warranty from Dodge when you buy these
I can tell you right now 100% anything that tells you it's going to give you 1000+HP is going to void your warranty amd destroy your engine. Absolutely do not do this
I smoke 6.4 hemis in a 2010 535i stage 2+
😂😂😂😂 no one cares .
I do it in a 2500 ram
@@HansBelphegor not if that thing stock you’re not. stop it.
You fucking clowns on here that think the 6.4 is slow. Your retards. It’s a drivers car, I could easily get my 392 to high 11s in a quarter mile. With just tires and a little weight reduction. And your 535i is not stock… the 392 is stock and it pushes a 4200 pound car. if my 392 weight was 3700 pounds. I don’t care if you staged your mama on your 535 you would get smoked. The 392 is a powerful engine.
Why are your here then ? Gtf on
You do be hating
Impossible for these motors with out forging . Also fuel system needs upgraded. Pure bullshit
This “kit” ain’t nothing new, powernation did this on a magnum 5yrs ago
6.4 is not a strong build engine
I think its a waist of money.
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