Stopcor - Clean Pipes With No Chemicals & No Magnets (Crazy!)
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Hello, good sir. Watch your older video last night and did S type boiler system today. Thank you. But I still have a problem. Every time the heating goes off, and the heating valve closing makes a hell of a noise (water hammer), I don't know what to do! I know you are a busy man but any advice will be awesome
I fitted one of those ultrasonic elephant repellents a few years back,
cost me a few quid but well worth it, not seen a single elephant since...
I find it quite hard to take this product seriously when their website and brochures talk about a "protective current... over -1V" - over and over again. It's just basic science that current is measured in amps, voltage in volts. Founded in 1968, they say, but still haven't got primary school level facts straight.
It reminds me of those plug in damp course's to stop rising damp 😂
Hi James. I have a large house which I will install the C2 in the plant room. However I have the boilers in the detached garage which is all connected with a double 1inch flow and return in pvc underground. Will the stopcor protect my boilers and copper pipes in the garage !
No. His description of how this works is wrong, it works electrically through metal pipework, not electrochemically through the contained water.
did you ever review a hydroflow hs38a was that a simular device?
Last comment on this thread - honest! - Whatever this device does (and I’m reasonably sceptical like others), I’m pretty certain it won’t have a significant impact on sludge build-up or indeed other corrosion. ‘Magnetite’ or Fe3O4 forms in the presence of iron (your radiators, basically in a domestic setting), water and oxygen. (If there is a lot of oxygen then you tend to get hematite or ‘rust’ or Fe203. (I know the industry has a habit of calling sludge 'magnetite' but have a feeling it is a combination of both rust and magnetite - magnetite is magnetic (duh) and I’m not sure most sludge will suck a nail towards it after you’ve got it out the MagnaClean - maybe worth an experiment or episode!)
While it’s possible that Magnetite is formed by electrolysis due to the galvanic reaction of copper and iron, with the O2 being freed somehow from water, I doubt it - I think it’s usually because you’ve got air in your system. Solution? Get rid of the air! Something like a Spirovent (and inhibitor!).
If you haven’t got sludge in your system James, it’s probably because you’re a good heating engineer and look after your system (and have some form of air separators - whether AAVs, self bleeding rads or my favourite, the Spirovent) - I"m not sure it's the STOPCOR.
The limescale reduction claim by creating a magnetic field and enacting Brownian motion like we all saw as kids in the physics lab looking at a smoke chamber is intriguing but I’d favour something like an Ion Scalebuster or Aquabion or similar which use three methods to reduce limescale - hydrodynamic action (i.e. turbulence chambers), dielectric action (PTFE coating) and Anodic action (zinc sacrificial anodes). (I have no affiliation with any of these companies btw!)
And copper pipes pretty much can’t corrode (without help from a plumber who leaves flux everywhere) - so unless you’ve got a load of iron, aluminium or steel pipework, I don’t think this will help corrosion much in the typical domestic setting. But just my opinion.
What is the earth rod put in wall for? Aren't the heating pipes already earthed?
yeah i wondered but the yu just connecting anode to anode
Eath rod in plaster or brick wall...LMAO
Provided your water is bonded correctly then the pipes will be at AC earth potential. But this device is trying to counter-act DC-related electrolysis corrosion, with the 'magnesium-copper battery' anode impressing a very small DC negative voltage on the pipework
Do you have a video on a flow diverter?
Hi James slight different topic im doing some work in my house and when I tighten up 22mm copper pipe into a brass coupler and the other end on a brass tee joint they leak so I give a little tweek like I've seen you say I've done the jointing compound and I've also tried the ptfe tape tricks still leaks,
But here's the kicker doesn't what stages I tighten it or if I change the olives when I untighten the fitting I can just slide the olives off they never seem to tight yet the 15mm fittings I've done no problems.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
sounds like the pipe work is old 3/4 inch imperial not 22mm metric. You can buy some specific olives that will work in this situation. Also dont push the pipe fully home so it has room to move down as the threads tighten up.
Aces g2 does the same but without maintenance. Price is 7x of stop core it needs 12vdc and some relatively minor conversion.
Hello James,I've watched u for years,I'm an industrial plumber nd alot of ppl ask me to do d jobs u do,I can basically do most of them,but in ur opinion wat is d difference between industrial nd domestic??
Surely your sacrificial Anode must be in the same electrolyte (ie, the water in your pipes) as the Cathode? As in the example of the ship - both are in the sea (the electrolyte). Or are they stating that by putting 20ml of water in that box it will act as a sacrificial Anode without being submerged inside the pipework?
Water in the pipes is the electrolyte. It’s worked on my system at home which now has no inhibitor in it!
@@plumberparts yeah but my point is they are both not in the SAME electrolyte. The magnesium is in a box. 📦 🧐
How is James not a professional TV and movie actor?
How do you know when you got corrsion?
open the drain off and give it a taste
As your pipework will be grounded by a good earth, hopefully. This would stop any battery effect the box has. Honest mate as a former heating and Ventilation engineer of over 30 years. You have been conned
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professor plumb was a bit too distracted in his science lessons.....
😂 I've had mine 2 years now. No magnetite in my system at all. And there's no inhibitor!
The concrete wall is somehow grounded ? Or is that true? Did I miss something?
well somewhat, but there is a reason electricians don't whack earth rods through your walls, but drive then into the earth ('ground'!) instead!
Why does the packaging look dirty?
Could you open up your unit at home to show how much corrosion there is on the magnesium instead of on the pipework?
And where is the magnesium being deposited? It is somehow escaping the box via the hole you put a syringe of water in
@@craigcousins6718 Magnesium => Magnesium Oxide and Salt - ends up being absorbed by the soft foam!!
@@craigcousins6718 , if the unit is working in a true sacrificial way the magnesium wont disappear but instead it slowly corrodes away inside the box into magnesium oxide. By doing so it releases electrons that protect the pipe work from corroding. But, if the unit drys out or if the earthing dries out/fails then it will stop working as there needs to be a complete electrical circuit. I studied this at university so I'm on the fence about how effective it is in this situation. Normally sacrificial anodes (or cathodes depending on what metal you're trying to protect) are under the sea where you have complete conductivity.
When you say pip it up once a year, it that a plumbing term? 😊
To have a cathode and an anode, electrolyte is required. That is a liquide that touches both anode and cathode. I don’t see how this can work. If your system at home is a closed system and the ph is above 8 it will not corrode. No inhibitor required.
The liquid in the pipes is the electrolyte. It’s worked at my gaff. And I’ve tested it over 2 years!
@@plumberparts So how is the liquid in your pipes in contact with the magnesium in the box?
@@Hanp90 It's not, hence why it cannot work. At this point, there's just a small potential difference between the "earth" electrode (bolted to the wall?!) and the pipe.
How would you test this product? Seems dubious
I’ve tested it at my home and it’s worked really well. No inhibitor in there at all and no magnetite. I was sceptical too!
@@plumberparts Used similar, some years ago, and amazingly it worked. Unless one fits these units one will never understand just how they do work. When I first purchased mine I did not think it would work, but did it to see if I was wrong, and was completely wrong.
@@plumberparts how long was it tested for and what results would you have gotten without it over the same time frame, I really like the idea and want to get one, but there are a lot of details missing regarding the testing and validation of its usefulness
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Prof Plumb.....LOL.....reminds me of Cosmo Smallpiece
Professor Plumb 😂
I can't help think you have been scammed on this one, I know the science works but the sacrificial metal has to be in the same body of water as the metal you are trying to protect.
Use it first before raise a negative comment please. We have installed it to over 700 properties and the results are amazing.
@@chryssalondonuk969 You've not posted on any of James' videos, yet you're all over this one having installed over 700 units of something no one has ever heard of. Seems suspicious?
@@sdgelectronics I am head of commercial at a maintenance company based in London. The video popped up and I made a comment through our experience. I am Greek and in Greece that is the most common way of protecting systems as we avoid chemicals. I have studied chemistry, toxicology and drug design University of Hull and I hold an upper 1st class degree. I can guarantee that the system works.
It's been on my system for 2 years and works really well. I oonly review things I know work mate.
Instead of immersing the sacrificial anode into water, we have created an environment of moisture inside the box where the anode is placed. This is innovation and has been patented globally. The STOPCOR has proven its value within the last 20 years.
Does Temu have a version?
😂😂😂
It is from TEMU uk division
Total Poppie ......you have been had, every few years this sort of POOP comes to the market and does SQUAT.
The Sponsor must be Happy and you with the Sponser.. lol
Ahhh Mark, I thought the same until I fitted at my home 2 years ago - system's been drained and filled a few times. No magnetite!
@@plumberparts Dear Plumb,
I am a former H+V engineer worked for over 30 years in Commercial and domestic fields, in this time we had all sorts of conn devices that came along, LED boxes would save you gas(were leds with a delay timer to stop boiler/Burners firing for a delay time period, ECO flow magnets to put on gas and water pipes to allign the electrons and save you gas and water,(did sweetFA). and some other various crap with great salesmen selling to lots of customers. Most of these items ended with being thrown in BIN.(like yours will).
I have a heating system at home with a magnetic filter which for the first two years did remove some crap, but since then even after several new rads and a few pipework alterations etc it has had zero Magnetite ). Honestly you are a great RUclipsr and come accross as a good plumber. BUT without doubt you have been HAD.
You need to take the science to someone clever who will explain to you that it is utterSHITE.
I noticed that they made it so easy to fit, even my Dog could do it, this allows them to sell this poop to just about anyone who can hold a screwdriver,lol.......
Like on every boat and engine in the water, plus every hot water tank ever made. cause it’s Poppie Puppet
Not sure why but I also tend to go northern when explaining 😂
Great ! No more mag clean !
Absolute shameful promotion of a obviously junk product - you may as well be advertising that stupid USB drive that claimed to stop covid. I've followed this channel for "Honest reviews and advice" and am very disappointed to now see that that's total crap - you should be ashamed.
About 6 months ago, I fitted a 300-litre HWS tank, equipped with 1kg of giant magnesium cathode on a system where new copper mixes with the very old LCS. Please come back in about 6 months when I inspect the system. If the anode disappear, I will buy this system.
You're a nutter, mr. plumber parts. Though, something something nuts for compression fittings so all plumbers are nuts. But you're the best nutter.
Just visited Stopcor website and read technical info and its full of utter crap you' ve been conned ! DROP THIS VIDEO NOW
Respectfully, I'm not sure it is full of cr*p! - what bit didn't you like? The device as others have pointed out doesn't work as is described in the video but the company doesn't make those same claims. Impressed Current Cathodic Protection does work. Whether this unit is the best solution to domestic corrosion and limescale is another debate. I'm not at all convinced that the majority of corrosion in domestic heating system is caused by electrolysis in the first place - I think it's caused by oxidation so I'd install a Spirovent first myself (and have done!)
Hola fontanero James. Yo espero que estais bien alli tio.
We have installed C9 snd C5 in high residential properties in London. Limescale reduced and no further signs of corrosion to pipework.
Well, assuming your residential properties use copper pipes and not steel or aluminium, - what corrosion to pipework were you ever expecting to see? Copper doesn't corrode this way hardly at all. I think there are much more effective limescale preventers too - such as the Ion Scalebuster and similar products that use anodic sacrifice but also hydrodynamic action (i.e. turbulence chambers), and dielectric action (PTFE coating) - can't 'throw them in' like this battery though....
I think your description of the mechanism of this product isn't correct.
If you read the description in the patent (WO2018011608), this isn't about the magnesium being a sacrificial anode against the cathode of the metalwork in the water installation, it is about applying a negative voltage across all the metal of the installation, of a greater magnitude than the galvanic potential between the differing metals e.g. steel and copper, preventing oxidation.
The thing in the case is essentially a battery - according to the patent it is a copper/magnesium cell - so the effect on the pipes is purely electrical, as you might guess from the fact the only connection is electrical. It is just the same as connecting a "normal" battery, it just lasts a lot longer presumably.
Lasts longer because there's essentially no current through that connection to the wall.
@@sdgelectronicsthat would be the same current as a regular battery, no? The resistance of the wall isnt changed by changing the type of battery.
@@awt yes exactly, it's just a battery. You could connect a regular AA cell to the wall and pipe and get the same result
Spot on.
Mate you've been had, or are in on the scam. I hope it's the former.
While the theory of a sacrificial anode is spot on, the anode needs to be in the same electrolyte as the metal you are protecting.
That's why they're on the outside of the boat where they can preferentially give up electrons to the electrolyte and protect the steel hull of the boat. If it worked like this product claims then the anodes would be on the inside of the boat where they are much easier to replace....
You keep mentioning in other comments that the water in the pipes is the electrolyte, which is true, but it's not the same as the electrolyte in magnesium is exposed to, so doesn't work. Look up a basic diagram of cathodic protection and you'll see what I mean when I say you've broken the circuit.
There must be another explanation as to why you've not had corrosion despite not using inhibitors (assuming that's the truth). Disconnect this magic box for a year and see if the corrosion returns...
The key paragraph that describes the mechanism in the patent: "The prevention of the electrolysis phenomenon is therefore achieved when we impose voltage both higher than the one produced between metals and with higher current density.". This is just a big battery in a box.
Matt! I thought the same until I fitted at my home 2 years ago - system's been drained and filled a few times. No magnetite! Although I have filled it with softened water. Genuine review!
@@plumberparts for that to be true you would have had to get one six months before the website selling them was created.
“Genuine review” while being sponsored 😂
Sorry, but this doesn’t do anything 😂
Well..... it's a battery so it does.... ;-). It generates 1.7V!!
Interestingly STOPCOR is accepted shorthand for Stop Corruption, rather appropriate for this snakeoil product.
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Looks like one of my wife's pies.
I generally an open mind but this seems nonsence. I wouldn't waste a penny on it.
Just saying you've used it doesn't prove it works...
As others have said, this makes no sense. Your estimate of when you installed at home varies from 18 months to 2 years, which is sloppy - could have be a year for all we know, which isn't long enough to check corrosion, especially if you keep changing the water.
The science presented to plug a snake oil type product is so bad I'm unsubscribing.
Is this a late April Fool's joke?
Yup - I'm afraid James it is a *battery* inside - that's all it is. In the box it has a copper cathode and magnesium anode, separated by a modified plaster which is the electrolyte (and which you top up like an old school car battery). The patent says it generates up to 1.7V at 500mA. By grounding (In the wall!) the positive terminal (copper cathode) it becomes a 'negative battery' and this voltage attached to the pipework supposedly negates the positive DC voltage electrolysis effect otherwise inherently present in the pipework through galvanic / electrolytic action. Not saying it doesn't work or do something (impressed current cathodic protection is a massive industry - pipelines etc.) but it is just a battery. (Designed to last 3-5 years). Not sure that ground-spiking the wall will give you the -1.7V either - easy to measure with a voltmeter though - anything less than -1V probably won't negate the positive DC charge causing electrolysis. (If the magnesium anode is sacrificial, it's because of the ion exchange inside the electrolysis cell not because it's electrically attached to the pipework surely?). Fun video - but maybe re-do the Professor Plumb piece from 8:41 and focus on impressed current protection per the patent instead?