The writers actually explained what happens afterwards when they were writing the supposed sequel. Apparently the idea was to let the gold fall out of the bus and collect the gold at the bottom. However the mafia got to the gold first and the sequel was them getting the gold back from the mafia. It would have been an interesting sequel but I think not having that leaves this movie with the perfect cliffhanger.
I wish there was a sequel to this film. Perhaps a video game sequel could be possible. There is a video game version of "The Italian Job", but that mostly focuses on the driving aspect. Something like how "Scarface: The World Is Yours" is a video game sequel to Brian De Palma's film. Or maybe a comic book sequel. Just need the actors' and their estates' permission to use their likenesses and find sound alikes.
Michael Caine suggested in this moment of the movie to unfill the fuel tank to make the gold side more lighter and could manage to get the gold back safely & (Happy ending YAYY) But unfortunately Peter Collinson and Troy Martin (Screenwriter) didn't agree on that and make it instead like an open Riddle ... 😂😂
Charlie gets out, gets some rocks, piles them in the front then moves the gold out. Charlie is clearly on the far side of the pivot point so the bus definitely won't tip if he gets out.
One of my closest friends is in this scene. I miss him a lot. Tell your pals how much they mean to you. My biggest regret is that he tried to call me twice and I didn't answer as my dad had passed away and I was feeling down. The next call was from his daughter and he'd just given up and gone. Break my heart to this day thinking about it. He clearly wanted to say goodbye and I didn't answer. Life man, it's painful stuff.
I remember my dad showing this movie to me when I was a kid. Loved the movie and when it ended I said I can't wait to see how they got out of it in the next one... my dad just started laughing and wouldn't stop to my confusion.
@@gdutfulkbhh7537 that’s a matter of opinion he is still brilliant in this film [ the man who would be king ] is ok but [ the Italian job ] is far better I think
Okay, so Michael Caine has revealed the ending they actually filmed. Basically he goes back to the driving seat and runs the engine for four hours until it's out of fuel. This counter balances the bus, allowing them all to escape BUT unfortunately the bus tumbles down the mountain, along with the gold, as they leave. The waiting rival gang (who've been watching with binoculars) grab the Bullion and high-tail it, setting up for a sequel, which has the British lads trying to get it back. My solution? Well, the weight of Caine is slight enough to allow him to get out the front and the bus would still be balanced. He could then load the drivers side with rocks until there's enough weight to allow them to retrieve the gold. Maybe. ;-)
-Move everyone to the front of bus -One person gets out and picks up some big rocks to add weight to front of the bus Keep adding rocks for as long as possible... then get the gold.
the reason why they had to put this in was because in 1969 in cinema it was very bad for the criminals to actually win, so they shot this which allows both parties to be sort of happy with the ending
I believe it was, I learned the term was coined in a Sherlock Holmes novel that ended with Moriarty and Holmes pretty much falling off a cliff and Watson not knowing if either had survived.
+Brent Reeser The Final Problem. that was intended to be the end of Sherlock Holmes, but demand got Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote The Empty House to bring him back.
A lot of stuff they could've done for weight distribution. They could tear the blinds off the windows and move them to the front. The door actually would be useful (just not to step off)- the members could crawl out the door on top of the bus and sit on the roof by the front windshield, don't have to stay in the cargo hold. They could also take off their jumpsuits and tie them into a rope/lasso, and hook it around one of those pieces of gold sitting on top. At the very least have the smallest person (not Charlie) crawl for the gold. I think his movements were wrong, he had his body diagonal and legs and left arm forward way too much.
reminds of my coach trip in Kerry Ireland ..200ft drop back end wheels over the edge ..I'm hanging out the door and the coach driver from Camden Town says in his natural cockney accent ," Hang on a minute mate I've got an idea !"....pmsl ..he had most of us laughing ...some either didn't get it or no sense of humour !...gotta make light of the situation and laugh in it's face !
[Chewie and two Ewoks rock up in an AT-ST] "Chewie get down here, she's [Leia] wounded. No, wait. [Turns to Leia, puts on charmer's grin] I got an idea." - Han Solo
just completed the Italian job for ps1 after that 2 minute trek in the mountains on "home free" at annoying mission 16 at the very end I had 7 seconds left to spare and just made it xD
In 2008, the Royal Society of Chemistry held a competition for a solution that had a basis in science. The winning entry, by John Godwin of Surrey, was: Break and remove two large side windows just aft of the pivot point and let the glass fall outside to lose its weight; break two windows over the two front axles, keeping the broken glass on board to keep its weight for balance; let a man out on a rope through the front broken windows (not to rest his weight on the ground) who deflates all the bus's front tyres, to reduce the bus's rocking movement about its pivot point; drain the fuel tank, which is aft of the pivot point, which changes the balance enough to let a man get out and gather heavy rocks to load the front of the bus. Unload the bus. Wait until a suitable vehicle passes on the road, hijack it, and carry the gold away in it.
I thought I'd share that as I stumbled across it trying to find out where's Big William in this scene, thought he was driving the bus? Although I did find out Frederick Toms drove the coach in the film and on locations. Harry Baird the actor who played 'Big William' only sat in the driver seat when the coach was in the studio, all location scenes in the film where the coach is moving was driven by Frederick Toms no one else drove the coach.
Pity they chucked out the ramps used to load mini coopers cause they might have been used as grappling hooks to get gold. Smashing some of the windows at the back of the bus might lose a weight equal to the lightest person, I doubt if Charlie was the lightest person there, otherwise hope someone will pass on the road and lift in some rocks like David Harrison said below. Might be difficult for everyone to get out fast enough, the last few might go down with bus. In any case if the gold shifted as much as that, the bus would be likely to go over ?
@@erikzoe1 Nope. Michael Caine's weight is tipping it over the cliff but it still isn't falling. So all he has to do is go back and get off the bus, then start loading rocks.
Correct Mr. On. The bus was already exactly balanced with that TON of gold 5 feet from the end of the bus. The 1st time the gold slid, the bus would have gone over.
Before he tells everybody to move slowly towards the front,he should've told the closest guy to the stack to pick up a crate with him. The extra weight would have let another person walk back and throw more bars over one at a time.
I would have asked for belts and shirts. Tie them up to make a make shift lasso. And carefully try to lasso the gold. But that a high risk seeing a mistake could end in a tumble.
Actually if you think about it it doesn't make sense. The bus is balanced precisely on the edge but then when all the gold moves the bus is still balanced on the Edge. If all that gold moved the the bus would definitely go over the first time.
The ending about the movie tells me that the pitcrew team weren't evil however crime doesn't pay for stealing to why they're in their transport bus hanging on a cliff
I watched the movie on TV in the 80s. I was a teenager and the ending annoyed me. For years I wondered whether my local TV station had messed up and inadvertently cut out the last piece of the movie.
Also, how would one person have been able to move the gold? Was he supposed to get one bar at a time as the bus becomes steadily more stable? He’s not going to be able to move that entire haul of gold by himself and if anyone else comes with him, they’re done for.
With the correct dispersion of weight i believe that the men would be able to counterbalance the man going for the gold allowing him to successfully reach it and succeed
All of this wouldn’t have happened if Big William had concentrated more on the driving as the roads on the Alps and are steap and dangerous to be driving like a lunatic on.
I did read on the films Wikipedia page that they were thinking of doing a sequel where the mafia take the gold and Charlie and the others have to get it back and return to England would have been nice to have made it
Looks to be at least 8 cubic feet of gold in that stack, possibly more. One cu ft of the stuff weighs about 1200lb. So that's about 10,000lb at one end of the scale, counterbalanced by 10 men. At even 15 stone per man, that's only 2,100lb. The bus could never have balanced like that with the cliff-edge at its middle!!
Joe, have you any idea how HEAVY gold is? Even a strong feller like Mr Caine would have had a dickens of a job fetching back one single ingot, never mind a basketful of the things.
my theory of what happened next is they hang over the edge for a day then the police find Charlie and the gang ( because when the gang see the police they call for help ) so the gang get arrested and the police send the bus down the mountain
The idea, is to turn on the engine, and let the fuel run out. That would take 4 hours. They would have to stay where they are the whole time. Then, when the van balances out, they can all safely jump out, but the bus and the gold go over the cliff. Had they made the sequel, they would have done that. The gold was still safely intact in the wreckage. But then, the Mafia shows up, and steals the gold, but spare their lives. The rest of the sequel would involve Charlie stealing the gold back.
what the man said below about counter balance, was on the BBC one show, they break the glass,one man gets out let wheels down,front and let the fuel discharge, that man finds lose rock's, and had a few inside to counter balance, which should make the coach balance, then they can get pass the gold. back. there was going to be a 2 Italian job film the producers, had a storyline pictures, of the second film ,with helicopter, steel wire hock up under the bus lift it to safety, and Michael Caine and other, come out of the bus with the Mafia waiting for ,them, that would of been the ending for the first one,but they did the first like that to make another film.which don't happen
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The writers actually explained what happens afterwards when they were writing the supposed sequel. Apparently the idea was to let the gold fall out of the bus and collect the gold at the bottom. However the mafia got to the gold first and the sequel was them getting the gold back from the mafia. It would have been an interesting sequel but I think not having that leaves this movie with the perfect cliffhanger.
interesting... thanks for sharing
LITERALLY !!
Michael cain said different in an interview, he got asked did he get the gold, he said it's for the people who have watched it to decide
If he had been able to shift it the far end away from the cliff he could have stabilised the vehicle...
I wish there was a sequel to this film. Perhaps a video game sequel could be possible. There is a video game version of "The Italian Job", but that mostly focuses on the driving aspect. Something like how "Scarface: The World Is Yours" is a video game sequel to Brian De Palma's film. Or maybe a comic book sequel. Just need the actors' and their estates' permission to use their likenesses and find sound alikes.
"Hang on a minute lads, I've got a great idea..."
I don't think this movie could have possibly had a better ending.
Only could have been improved if he said that at the beginning.
Sound and looks like brexit
Rory Mag lol
Michael Caine suggested in this moment of the movie to unfill the fuel tank to make the gold side more lighter and could manage to get the gold back safely & (Happy ending YAYY) But unfortunately Peter Collinson
and Troy Martin (Screenwriter) didn't agree on that and make it instead like an open Riddle ... 😂😂
At least the remake had a great ending.
This is probably the best (and most literal) cliffhanger in a movie, heh. :D
Seriously, this movie is nothing short of classic.
The absolute zenith of a brilliant carreer.
I believe they had it. Michael Cane said he had a great Idea.
Charlie gets out, gets some rocks, piles them in the front then moves the gold out.
Charlie is clearly on the far side of the pivot point so the bus definitely won't tip if he gets out.
One of my closest friends is in this scene. I miss him a lot. Tell your pals how much they mean to you. My biggest regret is that he tried to call me twice and I didn't answer as my dad had passed away and I was feeling down. The next call was from his daughter and he'd just given up and gone. Break my heart to this day thinking about it. He clearly wanted to say goodbye and I didn't answer. Life man, it's painful stuff.
Tough
I remember my dad showing this movie to me when I was a kid. Loved the movie and when it ended I said I can't wait to see how they got out of it in the next one... my dad just started laughing and wouldn't stop to my confusion.
Same lol my dad showed me this back in like 2002 sometime around then and I asked the same thing hahaha
Best ending to a film ever haha
My science teacher played this in physics in Year 10 when we were learning about moments and torque.
"Hang on a minute lads, I've got a great idea..."
Damn--it's one of those situations where they're so close--yet so far! LoL.
Micahel Caine is brilliant in this one of the best films he made
The Man Who Would be King is arguably a better performance still.
@@gdutfulkbhh7537 that’s a matter of opinion he is still brilliant in this film [ the man who would be king ] is ok but [ the Italian job ] is far better I think
1:55 “Hang on a minute lads, I’ve got a great idea”
Quite literally a cliff hanger
Okay, so Michael Caine has revealed the ending they actually filmed. Basically he goes back to the driving seat and runs the engine for four hours until it's out of fuel. This counter balances the bus, allowing them all to escape BUT unfortunately the bus tumbles down the mountain, along with the gold, as they leave.
The waiting rival gang (who've been watching with binoculars) grab the Bullion and high-tail it, setting up for a sequel, which has the British lads trying to get it back.
My solution? Well, the weight of Caine is slight enough to allow him to get out the front and the bus would still be balanced. He could then load the drivers side with rocks until there's enough weight to allow them to retrieve the gold. Maybe. ;-)
They made the right decision by not using that, this is the perfect ending
There's no way they could have went 4 hours without someone noticing a freaking coach hanging off a cliff lmao.
@@Fireglo xD
Never tire of this film.....awesome.
The cliff hanger to define all cliff hangers!
This is so perfect cause back then films just didn’t end like this, “cliffhangers” were not something any audience would have expected at the time
This was one of those films I loved watching with my dad.
Anyone else here after Brassic?
Legend has it, that the coach is still balancing in the alps.
-Move everyone to the front of bus
-One person gets out and picks up some big rocks to add weight to front of the bus
Keep adding rocks for as long as possible... then get the gold.
The instant that one person gets out of the bus, it falls down the cliff.
@@Stewie-th7lt no it wouldnt, if that was the case then having the people in other parts of the bus would cause it to fall too
The way Charlie has a great idea, Dutch Vanderlinde has a plan
Legends say that mini bus is still there
the reason why they had to put this in was because in 1969 in cinema it was very bad for the criminals to actually win, so they shot this which allows both parties to be sort of happy with the ending
The best analogy of Great Britain right now. 😆
I wonder if the term "cliffhanger" was used in 1969. If not, that would be a really funny coincidence :P
I believe it was, I learned the term was coined in a Sherlock Holmes novel that ended with Moriarty and Holmes pretty much falling off a cliff and Watson not knowing if either had survived.
Dave Malyan which book was that
+Brent Reeser The Final Problem. that was intended to be the end of Sherlock Holmes, but demand got Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote The Empty House to bring him back.
The term "Cliffhanger" was acutally coined with the 1873 novel A pair of blue eyes
A lot of stuff they could've done for weight distribution. They could tear the blinds off the windows and move them to the front. The door actually would be useful (just not to step off)- the members could crawl out the door on top of the bus and sit on the roof by the front windshield, don't have to stay in the cargo hold. They could also take off their jumpsuits and tie them into a rope/lasso, and hook it around one of those pieces of gold sitting on top. At the very least have the smallest person (not Charlie) crawl for the gold. I think his movements were wrong, he had his body diagonal and legs and left arm forward way too much.
I grew up with the ps1 game of this movie, this movie is an all time classic and one of the best heist movies ever
Same haha
Theres a game? Is it good?
@@markfriesen4032 I liked it but it is quite dated now, it's from around 2001
@@Flaccidtetris I don't have a problem with old games
Best movie ending ever
that helpless reach as it slides further😂
this is genius a literal cliffhanger made as a cliffhanger
Hang on a minute ... I have a great idea =
Its a literal cliffhanger lmao
This scene is Brexit.
Yup!!
The mafia are the EU
The road is the UK and the cliff is the eu.
Where's Lupin III when you need him? He'd know what to do in a situation like this--lol!
If they didn't ditch the Minis they'd make it
This may not have been the original cliffhanger movie ending, but it was probably the first to have the characters hang over a cliff.
reminds of my coach trip in Kerry Ireland ..200ft drop back end wheels over the edge ..I'm hanging out the door and the coach driver from Camden Town says in his natural cockney accent ," Hang on a minute mate I've got an idea !"....pmsl ..he had most of us laughing ...some either didn't get it or no sense of humour !...gotta make light of the situation and laugh in it's face !
Pmsl: Pissimg myself laughing
A literal cliffhanger.
Lol the guy in the red suit has a big long pole and nobody has noticed or thought to use it to pull the gold back. Lol
+jake challoner Watch it again. You can tell it's one of those poles that you hold on to thats attached to the inside of the bus.
79centsoutofadollar
Well spotted 😉
[Chewie and two Ewoks rock up in an AT-ST]
"Chewie get down here, she's [Leia] wounded. No, wait. [Turns to Leia, puts on charmer's grin] I got an idea." - Han Solo
just completed the Italian job for ps1 after that 2 minute trek in the mountains on "home free" at annoying mission 16 at the very end I had 7 seconds left to spare and just made it xD
A real cliff hanger
They have to make a rope from jackets and pull some of the gold bars over to them :D
yes, this is the solution.
Talk about a cliffhanger amirite?!
Golden scene
I had to watch this video and explain how the film-maker make this "powerful" and "engaging" for my English homework💀
In 2008, the Royal Society of Chemistry held a competition for a solution that had a basis in science. The winning entry, by John Godwin of Surrey, was:
Break and remove two large side windows just aft of the pivot point and let the glass fall outside to lose its weight; break two windows over the two front axles, keeping the broken glass on board to keep its weight for balance; let a man out on a rope through the front broken windows (not to rest his weight on the ground) who deflates all the bus's front tyres, to reduce the bus's rocking movement about its pivot point; drain the fuel tank, which is aft of the pivot point, which changes the balance enough to let a man get out and gather heavy rocks to load the front of the bus. Unload the bus. Wait until a suitable vehicle passes on the road, hijack it, and carry the gold away in it.
I thought I'd share that as I stumbled across it trying to find out where's Big William in this scene, thought he was driving the bus? Although I did find out Frederick Toms drove the coach in the film and on locations. Harry Baird the actor who played 'Big William' only sat in the driver seat when the coach was in the studio, all location scenes in the film where the coach is moving was driven by Frederick Toms no one else drove the coach.
Pity they chucked out the ramps used to load mini coopers cause they might have been used as grappling hooks to get gold. Smashing some of the windows at the back of the bus might lose a weight equal to the lightest person, I doubt if Charlie was the lightest person there, otherwise hope someone will pass on the road and lift in some rocks like David Harrison said below. Might be difficult for everyone to get out fast enough, the last few might go down with bus. In any case if the gold shifted as much as that, the bus would be likely to go over ?
Just have one guy leave the bus and load the bus with rocks, problem solved
Except that the loss of the one guy's weight would already tip it over before he returned with the rocks.
@@erikzoe1 Nope. Michael Caine's weight is tipping it over the cliff but it still isn't falling. So all he has to do is go back and get off the bus, then start loading rocks.
When the gold slid, the bus remained balanced,suspending the laws of physics.
Correct Mr. On. The bus was already exactly balanced with that TON of gold 5 feet from the end of the bus. The 1st time the gold slid, the bus would have gone over.
The best movie ending ever
Yes ... this is the best ending in a comedy movie hahahah
Easy: tie their England scarves together, Charlie ties it to the gold and pull it back, then all the weights at the front. Sorted!
What the hell. I’m left scratching my head.
Before he tells everybody to move slowly towards the front,he should've told the closest guy to the stack to pick up a crate with him. The extra weight would have let another person walk back and throw more bars over one at a time.
I really enjoyed this film. I'm not really a fan of Michael Caine, but he was great in the film.
I would have asked for belts and shirts. Tie them up to make a make shift lasso. And carefully try to lasso the gold. But that a high risk seeing a mistake could end in a tumble.
Fiscal Cliff!!
Everyone strip off, tie your clothes and belts together and lasso it around the gold then pull together
i wonder what Bridger thought when he was told about this...
Actually if you think about it it doesn't make sense. The bus is balanced precisely on the edge but then when all the gold moves the bus is still balanced on the Edge. If all that gold moved the the bus would definitely go over the first time.
the equilibrium is a vicious cycle
the best british caper film of alltime?
It seems that the tourist van is the only one coming out safely from the movie
I remember in a maths and science lesson I had to solve this a puzzle of sorts it was the most hardest thing ever.
Is this where the term cliffhanger comes from???
Crime doesn't pay.
The ending about the movie tells me that the pitcrew team weren't evil however crime doesn't pay for stealing to why they're in their transport bus hanging on a cliff
Has anyone else noticed @00:19 someone coughs? I'm certain it's off-camera!
I watched the movie on TV in the 80s. I was a teenager and the ending annoyed me. For years I wondered whether my local TV station had messed up and inadvertently cut out the last piece of the movie.
is this where the term Clinfhanger actually originated from? lol
Now that is wht i cal a cliffhanger!!!!
They could’ve kept those Minis and use those to drive around the mountain. They’re easier to maneuver around curves than a bus.
LITERAL CLIFFHANGER LOL
I like to think the driver went out and got a bolder.
Lock Stock ending inspired by this.
Also, how would one person have been able to move the gold? Was he supposed to get one bar at a time as the bus becomes steadily more stable? He’s not going to be able to move that entire haul of gold by himself and if anyone else comes with him, they’re done for.
With the correct dispersion of weight i believe that the men would be able to counterbalance the man going for the gold allowing him to successfully reach it and succeed
All of this wouldn’t have happened if Big William had concentrated more on the driving as the roads on the Alps and are steap and dangerous to be driving like a lunatic on.
2:11 rock falling up the cliff edge, most have been a reversed shot, great ending though.
good spot
That's a piece of paper blowing in the wind
They made a math question from this scene
Diamonds Weigh Less
I did read on the films Wikipedia page that they were thinking of doing a sequel where the mafia take the gold and Charlie and the others have to get it back and return to England would have been nice to have made it
Even if he managed to grab a stack of gold, would he even have the strength to drag it back?
So who else saw the news about the bus nearly going over a cliff in the Alps and came here?
The funny thing is, if they hadn't ditched the minis, this wouldn't have happened. They were only supposed to ditch the bloody minis later
Yes great ending but it always bugged me that there's no way that the little minis would be able to carry all that weight of gold in the first place.
Looks to be at least 8 cubic feet of gold in that stack, possibly more. One cu ft of the stuff weighs about 1200lb. So that's about 10,000lb at one end of the scale, counterbalanced by 10 men. At even 15 stone per man, that's only 2,100lb. The bus could never have balanced like that with the cliff-edge at its middle!!
How to get le gold back
Drag a case at a time to counter balance the rest
But what a perfect cliffhanger no pun Intended
Joe, have you any idea how HEAVY gold is? Even a strong feller like Mr Caine would have had a dickens of a job fetching back one single ingot, never mind a basketful of the things.
This isn't the stallone movie from 1993???? Same title
So cool
my theory of what happened next is they hang over the edge for a day then the police find Charlie and the gang ( because when the gang see the police they call for help ) so the gang get arrested and the police send the bus down the mountain
The idea, is to turn on the engine, and let the fuel run out. That would take 4 hours. They would have to stay where they are the whole time. Then, when the van balances out, they can all safely jump out, but the bus and the gold go over the cliff. Had they made the sequel, they would have done that. The gold was still safely intact in the wreckage. But then, the Mafia shows up, and steals the gold, but spare their lives. The rest of the sequel would involve Charlie stealing the gold back.
what the man said below about counter balance, was on the BBC one show, they break the glass,one man gets out let wheels down,front and let the fuel discharge, that man finds lose rock's, and had a few inside to counter balance, which should make the coach balance, then they can get pass the gold. back. there was going to be a 2 Italian job film the producers, had a storyline pictures, of the second film ,with helicopter, steel wire hock up under the bus lift it to safety, and Michael Caine and other, come out of the bus with the Mafia waiting for ,them, that would of been the ending for the first one,but they did the first like that to make another film.which don't happen
Why didn’t they put curtains over the back windows? The police could of seen the minis parked up unloading the gold.
To think, they had got this far only for it to end like this! 🙁
Winch the bus back onto the road
not an isolated road...sit tight until another motorist coms by and yell for them to start gathering rocks to help load into the light end of the bus
"Did you know that this is the worst ending to a movie that there's ever been. Not a lot of people know that"
Not pointing any fingers, but it was a black guy driving carelessly on bendy roads that caused this in the first place.
Yep, thinking of how he can blame it on the white establishment 🤐