I have just built a PC with the same specs and it wasn't anywere near 10K. 7950X, RTX 4090 FE, ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Gene mATX motherboard, DDR5 6000 CL30 G.Skill RAM kit, three Samsung 980 Pro 1TB NVMe SSDs, one Samsung 860 QVO 4TB SSD all in an O11 Air Mini case with a mixture of 120mm and 140mm Noctua chromax.black case fans and a Noctua U12A chromax.black cooler. The Asus board is nice hardware, but their motherboard software and fan control options are seriously awful, slow, devoid of criticla functionality and bloated compared to MSI's equivalent. I'm thinking of sending the motherboard back and getting an MSI one, instead.
We're in Australia, not USA Eren - prices aren't comparable and you've got completely different parts anyway - that's a Mini Air case and cheaper fans 😄 You also have the wrong motherboard for that case - it takes a full ATX motherboard, the GENE is an mATX, it won't looks similar to this ASUS motherboards are best overall, if you don't like Armoury Crate you're going to hate MSI Center 😂
@@CataclysmComputers Ah, Australian dollars as opposed to USD, thanks for clarifying and I apologise for mixing up my currencies. I don't really have the "wrong" motherboard per se, I deliberately chose the mATX version rather than the Hero since I don't need a larger ATX board. As you know, Hero and Gene are from the same product tier/family. My O11 case will accommodate ATX size (even EATX is possible), but I don't need the extra ATX expansion features. Both boards are from the same line with comparable designs, features, same X670E chipset, similar over engineered power-delivery and cooling mechanisms, similarly premium pricing for their size class, it's just that the Gene has fewer PCIE, NVMe and DIMM slots. I don't know if Noctua fans can be called "cheap" really, perhaps they cost less in price than your fans, but they are among the very best fans out there in terms of performance. I didn't want RGB disco lights, I wanted silent operation which is why I went with all Noctua fans and the mesh-design Air mini case. I can run any game or benchmark for hours on end while the PC fan noise remains completely inaudible because the fans never go above 30-35%, not even in the graphics card, which was ultimately my design goal in building this new system. I have used both socket 1700 and AM4 MSI motherboards and several older Asus X99WS socket 2011v3 workstation boards for years. Asus boards are a combination of excellent hardware with flaky software, whereas MSI boards today are a combination of great hardware with decent software. For sure, MSI Center used to be bad back in the Z390 days (back when it was called Dragon Center), but these days it is rewritten and genuinely decent and stable. It only installs one program (as opposed to the dozen Asus seems to have installed), and then lets me choose which components to additionally install or skip. It doesn't cause any slowdowns or instabilities whereas the Asus AI Suite software has already crashed twice, so I've had to uninstall it to restore stable operation. MSI also doesn't push ads in my face, whereas Armoury Crate is rotating through a bunch of ads while installing drivers and utilities. Another advantage is that MSI BIOS allows precise control over each and every fan header. I can set each fan to track a different temperature sensor right within the BIOS, if I want my side intake case fans to follow motherboard temp and my rear exhaust to follow CPU temp, I can do that, whereas the Asus BIOS is shockingly lacking in that department for such an expensive board. I have to use the excellent Fancontrol software in Windows to configure the fans to my liking, because the Asus BIOS itself doesn't allow per-fan config, which is inexplicable at this price range. Still, the Crosshair boards do look lovely and are very well built, I have nothing bad to say about the hardware. It seems Asus is focusing too much on overclocking features and not enough on quality of life features for every day use, which is unfortunate. Since you have more experience with AM5 Asus boards, let me ask if you can help me with this: I understand the white-coloured fan headers on these ROG Crosshair boards are set up to spin fans at 100% RPM by default, to help with open bench testing, etc. I was told I can change that behaviour to make them behave like the other black-coloured fan headers and follow a temperature sensor to adjust speed dynamically, but I can't find a setting in the BIOS to let me do that. Do you know if there is such a setting for Crosshair boards and if so, whereabouts in the BIOS would I find it? Thank you
I also have the O11D Evo but I have configured the fans differently like the side ones for intake and top ones for exhaust. Your configuration looks better aesthetically tho but wondering which one will give better temps.
We've tried both and your way is slightly better temperature, but overall the PC doesn't get hot enough to worry you anyway - and people keep asking for the fans to face this way because it looks a bit cleaner 😄
Great build. But i really don't like RGB all over the place. I recently upgraded to a 7950X, ASrock X670E STEEL LEGEND mobo , 64GB DDR5 RAM G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo 6000MHz CL32-38-38-96 1.40v Already had an INNO3D iCHiLL x4 fans RTX 3070 8GB VRAM, 1250W Power supply, Full tower case with 3x 200mm Case fans and 1x 140mm, Noctua NH-D 15 CPU air cooler, 3x 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSDs and 1x 512GB HDD I wonder how many frames i'll get in games at 1080p playing on a 25" 240Hz AlienWare monitor
I just built my 7950x, Corsair 1000D full tower, Corsair hx170i 420mm AIO with Corsair ML140 elite fans in push pull configuration, Corsair DDR5 Dominator Platinum Ram 6000mhz C30 2x16gb(32gb), Asus ROG Crosshair x670e Hero, Samsung 990 pro 2TB m.2, Corsair hx1200i Psu, and a Gigabyte RTX4090 gaming oc. One heads up for new builders of the 7950x series is that neither windows 11 nor Nvidia report accurate cpu usage in games. It would tell me I’m using 1-5% max in games, which is way off. Initially I thought I had a bad cpu or motherboard, but after installing msi afterburner with rivatuner the in game overlay showed the real cpu usage20-35% range at 4k max settings. One question I have is whether to enable expo II with tighter sub-timings or stay at Expo I? I know 1 is more stable, but 2 is better performance. I have the latest Asus bios 0805, which was uploaded back in November. Hopefully an improved one will be out soon. Asus needs to get their BIOS on the x670e ready for the 7000X3D versions coming out in February this year. I plan on snagging a 7950x3D if I can get my hands on one at release. Thank you for your time!
Funny how a custom pc building place faces top fans as intakes. Heat rises... How does this cost 10K? You're also missing a cpu mobo power cable up top that you showed in some B-roll footage
No mate, heat goes where we want it to go in a properly built PC. The liquid cooler is at the top of the case, the fans are attached to it. You don't push air through a radiator, you pull air through a radiator, which is what we're doing. You're in America, we're in Australia, 10K AUD is currently 6.8K USD - though prices don't compare across countries anyway so maybe you'd pay $6200 including taxes, maybe you'd pay $7500 including taxes - different country. We used our last braided CPU cable just before this video; of course he had both included before getting the PC.
This is my exact build besides the gpu. I have a tuf 4090
We've used a few TUF 4090s too but right now in Australia they're a bit more rare! Cool GPU though 😁
May I ask if that display (with the nzxt logo) on the aio cooler from the Nzxt cam software or is it a GIF from somewhere else online?
It's on NZXT CAM 😄
Damn im new to gaming PCs but damn that shit looks sick
Thanks David! Even I'm jealous of it 😂
I have just built a PC with the same specs and it wasn't anywere near 10K. 7950X, RTX 4090 FE, ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Gene mATX motherboard, DDR5 6000 CL30 G.Skill RAM kit, three Samsung 980 Pro 1TB NVMe SSDs, one Samsung 860 QVO 4TB SSD all in an O11 Air Mini case with a mixture of 120mm and 140mm Noctua chromax.black case fans and a Noctua U12A chromax.black cooler.
The Asus board is nice hardware, but their motherboard software and fan control options are seriously awful, slow, devoid of criticla functionality and bloated compared to MSI's equivalent. I'm thinking of sending the motherboard back and getting an MSI one, instead.
We're in Australia, not USA Eren - prices aren't comparable and you've got completely different parts anyway - that's a Mini Air case and cheaper fans 😄
You also have the wrong motherboard for that case - it takes a full ATX motherboard, the GENE is an mATX, it won't looks similar to this
ASUS motherboards are best overall, if you don't like Armoury Crate you're going to hate MSI Center 😂
@@CataclysmComputers Ah, Australian dollars as opposed to USD, thanks for clarifying and I apologise for mixing up my currencies.
I don't really have the "wrong" motherboard per se, I deliberately chose the mATX version rather than the Hero since I don't need a larger ATX board. As you know, Hero and Gene are from the same product tier/family. My O11 case will accommodate ATX size (even EATX is possible), but I don't need the extra ATX expansion features. Both boards are from the same line with comparable designs, features, same X670E chipset, similar over engineered power-delivery and cooling mechanisms, similarly premium pricing for their size class, it's just that the Gene has fewer PCIE, NVMe and DIMM slots.
I don't know if Noctua fans can be called "cheap" really, perhaps they cost less in price than your fans, but they are among the very best fans out there in terms of performance. I didn't want RGB disco lights, I wanted silent operation which is why I went with all Noctua fans and the mesh-design Air mini case. I can run any game or benchmark for hours on end while the PC fan noise remains completely inaudible because the fans never go above 30-35%, not even in the graphics card, which was ultimately my design goal in building this new system.
I have used both socket 1700 and AM4 MSI motherboards and several older Asus X99WS socket 2011v3 workstation boards for years. Asus boards are a combination of excellent hardware with flaky software, whereas MSI boards today are a combination of great hardware with decent software. For sure, MSI Center used to be bad back in the Z390 days (back when it was called Dragon Center), but these days it is rewritten and genuinely decent and stable. It only installs one program (as opposed to the dozen Asus seems to have installed), and then lets me choose which components to additionally install or skip. It doesn't cause any slowdowns or instabilities whereas the Asus AI Suite software has already crashed twice, so I've had to uninstall it to restore stable operation. MSI also doesn't push ads in my face, whereas Armoury Crate is rotating through a bunch of ads while installing drivers and utilities.
Another advantage is that MSI BIOS allows precise control over each and every fan header. I can set each fan to track a different temperature sensor right within the BIOS, if I want my side intake case fans to follow motherboard temp and my rear exhaust to follow CPU temp, I can do that, whereas the Asus BIOS is shockingly lacking in that department for such an expensive board. I have to use the excellent Fancontrol software in Windows to configure the fans to my liking, because the Asus BIOS itself doesn't allow per-fan config, which is inexplicable at this price range. Still, the Crosshair boards do look lovely and are very well built, I have nothing bad to say about the hardware. It seems Asus is focusing too much on overclocking features and not enough on quality of life features for every day use, which is unfortunate.
Since you have more experience with AM5 Asus boards, let me ask if you can help me with this: I understand the white-coloured fan headers on these ROG Crosshair boards are set up to spin fans at 100% RPM by default, to help with open bench testing, etc. I was told I can change that behaviour to make them behave like the other black-coloured fan headers and follow a temperature sensor to adjust speed dynamically, but I can't find a setting in the BIOS to let me do that. Do you know if there is such a setting for Crosshair boards and if so, whereabouts in the BIOS would I find it?
Thank you
I also have the O11D Evo but I have configured the fans differently like the side ones for intake and top ones for exhaust. Your configuration looks better aesthetically tho but wondering which one will give better temps.
We've tried both and your way is slightly better temperature, but overall the PC doesn't get hot enough to worry you anyway - and people keep asking for the fans to face this way because it looks a bit cleaner 😄
mine is past generation equivalent
5950X and 3090 with 3600Mhz
Still a beast! 😁
@@CataclysmComputers and a keeper 👀
Great build.
But i really don't like RGB all over the place.
I recently upgraded to a 7950X, ASrock X670E STEEL LEGEND mobo , 64GB DDR5 RAM G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo 6000MHz CL32-38-38-96 1.40v
Already had an INNO3D iCHiLL x4 fans RTX 3070 8GB VRAM, 1250W Power supply, Full tower case with 3x 200mm Case fans and 1x 140mm, Noctua NH-D 15 CPU air cooler, 3x 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSDs and 1x 512GB HDD
I wonder how many frames i'll get in games at 1080p playing on a 25" 240Hz AlienWare monitor
Why didn't you use the corsair 12vhpwr cable? All Aussie pc retailers sell it and it gets rid of those octopus legs.
It didn’t exist when we built this 😊
whats the case?
It's the Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic EVO in black 😄
Is the case an o11 from lian Li?
Yep it's the Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic EVO Black case 😄
this build is 4000 euros, why you double the price :D
I just built my 7950x, Corsair 1000D full tower, Corsair hx170i 420mm AIO with Corsair ML140 elite fans in push pull configuration, Corsair DDR5 Dominator Platinum Ram 6000mhz C30 2x16gb(32gb), Asus ROG Crosshair x670e Hero, Samsung 990 pro 2TB m.2, Corsair hx1200i Psu, and a Gigabyte RTX4090 gaming oc.
One heads up for new builders of the 7950x series is that neither windows 11 nor Nvidia report accurate cpu usage in games. It would tell me I’m using 1-5% max in games, which is way off. Initially I thought I had a bad cpu or motherboard, but after installing msi afterburner with rivatuner the in game overlay showed the real cpu usage20-35% range at 4k max settings. One question I have is whether to enable expo II with tighter sub-timings or stay at Expo I? I know 1 is more stable, but 2 is better performance. I have the latest Asus bios 0805, which was uploaded back in November. Hopefully an improved one will be out soon. Asus needs to get their BIOS on the x670e ready for the 7000X3D versions coming out in February this year. I plan on snagging a 7950x3D if I can get my hands on one at release. Thank you for your time!
What are your processor temperatures under load?
Funny how a custom pc building place faces top fans as intakes. Heat rises... How does this cost 10K? You're also missing a cpu mobo power cable up top that you showed in some B-roll footage
No mate, heat goes where we want it to go in a properly built PC.
The liquid cooler is at the top of the case, the fans are attached to it. You don't push air through a radiator, you pull air through a radiator, which is what we're doing.
You're in America, we're in Australia, 10K AUD is currently 6.8K USD - though prices don't compare across countries anyway so maybe you'd pay $6200 including taxes, maybe you'd pay $7500 including taxes - different country.
We used our last braided CPU cable just before this video; of course he had both included before getting the PC.
@@CataclysmComputers You're right, my bad :)
12 USB ports omg.
Yep most motherboards give 8 😄