I just put mine together, turn it on and attempt to home it and it goes into negative numbers. Two Trees is unavailable for support, have you heard of this issue before?
the most interesting aspect for me here is the cut time... 15 hours for the 2 pass fish carving... that kind of info is really valuable to know when looking at these. cheers
Could be faster even with the stock spindle, I just used the presets in Easel which are conservative benchmarks for safely starting out with (according to Easel - see exclamation in cut settings tab). Processing time would be reduced a lot more with the 1.5 kW spindle or a Makita trim router (+$150 in cost). How fast it removes material will depend mostly on how much hp the spindle has and the bit being used. If the spindle can't remove material faster than the x and y axis motors can move then it'll just chatter and jam. Optimal feed rates and doc will always take some experimenting with a new machine, especially for a newb. At least, that's been my experience with printers and lasers.
@@JamesBiggar ah, thanks again. Ive really only used manual plunge routers and 3d printers. that also makes a threaded drive and the small nema's make more sense now.,,,
@@JamesBiggar I assume you did not just stand by the machine for all 15 hours though, to clean off the material that was being generated during the cutting. So maybe you did it in segments, starting and stopping accordingly?
@@JamesBiggar Are you suggesting that one could easily buy this machine and upgrade it with a Makita trim router for significant performance gains at just +$150 extra? How straightforward is a clean installation (e.g. no loss of precision)?
Cool little machine. just some info, when cutting (from my machine shop experience) I was always taught snub up the bit short as possible to reduce chatter and flexing. from this video it looks like its out a lot. We also used used endmills where the shank and cutting section are different diameters to help as well
Wow. Thirty seconds into this video and I'm already super jealous of that machine and I'm not even sure everything is been taken out of the box yet. Grrr. Lol.
Just started looking for an affordable cnc for my little shop and thanks to you looks like I found it. You showed everything I would be wanting to do minus drilling (cribbage boards mostly) and more. Thanks and the price is just right for me. Have a wonderful day and thanks for sharing.
This seems great for entry level/learning, but no more than that. As it is now I've been laser engraving/cutting for about a Year and I am going to focus on it for another Year or so before adding to my work area with a proper CNC machine. I might just get one of these to learn the basics before I invest in a proper setup. Nice video, I didn't know this existed until I saw this- I'm going to look into this a bit more!
Hope you enjoy it! If you're a noob like me then be sure to read through the comments from other viewers for some tips on how to use it more efficiently 👍
Great to see you getting into one of these machines James! Now you're just limited to your creativity which all of us that watch you know is limitless ;). I can hardly wait. I have and use a wood router (Onefinity) as well for signs and other small things ... but its the out of the box projects that you will shine like welding/bolt hole pattern jigs, electrical enclosures and beyond. I'll eat my shirt if you don't upgrade to a larger machine in lets say 4 years (being conservative here). Lots of fun watching you go and congrats! Daryl
I've had a kit with Nema 23's for a larger custom machine sitting in a box on a shelf for years. Too intimidated to put it together. But that'll change soon. Thanks Daryl, great to hear from you again!
My first CNC was a shapeoko XXL. It might have been a bit much to start with but it was easy to work with. I highly recommend starting with something that is of higher quality. These little Chinese $400 machines are worth as much as you pay for them and outgrow them in months. The CNC was paid for with the projects I sold in 6 months. I didn't buy it to sell anything at first but people love this stuff and I couldn't resist selling it. Fast forward 5 years and I'm still running the same CNC with very few issues. Now I need another one to add to the shop. Just something to think about before you run out and buy a piece of lower quality.
I'd like to see someone using a machine like this to work on marble painting, I'm sure they can come with some amazing symmetrical designs not achieved yet by hand.
Thanks for sharing this video and your knowledge I’m new here and to cnc machines looking into getting one this one looks amazing and the price is great for beginners like me I haven’t found any cheaper its impressive but I have zero experience with anything like this enjoyed it anyway thanks
Tool geometry will make all the difference in cutting results. Always keep your tool as close to the spindle as possible. If you’re going to do aluminum I’d suggest a cutting fluid call Alumi Tap. Made specifically for aluminum, works great! Speeds and feed rates will also produce better results.
WIth all these lightweight machines, using trochoidal or vortex milling for aluminum or brass can't be recommended enough. Estlcam offers this option. Will save you $$$ in milling tip currency.
Metal dowels for locating on 2 sides then new clamps Pro tip : Watch Feed and speeds (tools have specific feeds speeds/ chip load could go faster or run carbine/cobalt) if metal vibrates you can use modeling clay to keep vibration down
@@RudyVandenbelt worked as a toolmaker for many years and always used paraffin for machining aluminium - never heard of beeswax being used - interesting thanks.
Well, $400 cnc, not horrible. Dust Extraction of ANY sort would have been a much better result and easier on your tools. Watching those silly clamps killed me. That machine will never cut anything with the depth of those bolts. Why risk hitting them when they could be maybe 1.25 length at max. Cool video. This looks like a great first CNC to learn the process before buying a $4-6k setup. Glad we are able to get into CNC so cheap in 2024.
I'm looking to get a machine of similar size but haven't decided on one yet. I don't have extensive CNC experience besides what I learned at high school many years ago, but come from a 3D printing background which is similar in some ways. I am planning to use it for plastics and light aluminum mostly for electronics enclosures and control panels and such. Do you think this model would be suitable for engraving finer/smaller text, such as switch labels onto aluminium panels?
The ttc450 can engrave aluminum, but I'm not sure how long the v wheels will hold up and maintain accuracy. I think it's better for just wood and plastics for long term use. Check this one out: ruclips.net/video/l5CVuSz4Ifk/видео.html
Thank you so much for the excellent video! I can't believe the price of the machine and the quality of the work it seems to do! Are you still happy with it?
Meh. It's ok for a beginner to learn and make mistakes with, but it wore out fast and became a bit wobbly after a few more projects. I think the aluminum did it in. Too much for it. Rubber v wheels aren't a good choice for these machines, especially when working hard material. There are better sub $1000 machines. Check out my Anolex 3030 pro review. It's a little smaller but it's far better than this with a rugged frame, linear guide rails and better motors and controller for only $200 more.
@@JamesBiggar thank you so much for the information! The Masuter 3 is supposed to be pretty good so I’ll look into that a bit more. thank you once again.
Hi! Very interesting video. I was trying to get info about CNC routers, i'm quite new to this topic, and seems search recommended me your video. So considering this was 9 months ago and you probably got more experience, do you think this TTC450 would be a good pick for the first time experience? Mostly i want to cut carbon plates and maybe alluminium. Also i have a 3d printer and it is interesting to see some similarity.
🤷♂️ All I know is that it does what I need it to do. Normally, my tolerances as a carpenter/woodworker are a bit higher given the limits of conventional measuring and cutting tools lol. If I needed to cnc a part for an engine or something, that would be a different story. But as happy as I am with it (as a newb), it's still just a hobby machine at the end of the day. A good starting point to learn and get some experience, but I don't expect perfection from it.
How safe is it to operate without any form of enclosure around it? Can't a bit break and just fly off at speed? Also it seems very noisy and hardly something you might leave running overnight.
It's no more dangerous than the routers that I've been using as a carpenter all my professional life, which are handheld and twice as powerful. No, a bit can't just fly off at speed unless you forget to tighten the chuck. Yes, of course it's loud. It's a router machine. Routers are loud, whether they're connected to a cnc or not. That's why it's in my workshop where I work, not in my house where I sleep. It seems you don't have much experience working with power tools.
You would need a few more things. Marble would need cooling for the tool. So you would also need to replace the spoil board with something plastic. As the mdf would get ruined. Would also have to make sure all the connections get some splash protection. Would also need diamond tip tools.
Good video, I would have used a 1/16 ballnose with 5 to 10% stepover though on the fish on the finish pass as you can set an almost invisible stepover marks, a v bit by its nature can't really have a stepover as it terminates at a point, another option would be a flat ended v bit which you could set a 4 or 5% stepover
Thanks for the video. Did you have to purchase other software to use this? Did it come with it's own software and if so was it easy to use? Are there publicly shared programs to use with this machine? I'm just full of questions and trying to determine if something like this is worth getting into.
Do they not make reverse spiral bits? Opposite of a drill. In this way the cutter face is cutting from the workpiece top to bottom. Leaving clean edges at the top. Air or water vapor depending on material blows the chips out of the bottom and into the exhaust stream(vacuum)
You mean downcut bits. There are numerous different bits that loads of different bit manufacturers make. Upcuts for good chip removal and clean bottom edges, downcut for clean top edges and not so good chip removal, o flute, two flute, 3 flute, 4 flute, 5 flute, hss, titanium, coated, carbide to name a few. As mentioned, I was a noob and my bit collection was very limited/basic. Otherwise I would've used a downcut for the first couple of steps and switched to an upcut for the rest, like scoring plywood with a knife before cutting with an upcut jigsaw or circ saw to prevent burrs and chipping out the top veneer surface. Clean edges on both sides.
Does it come with the files to cut new spoil boards (My very first thought) as anyone will need new ones at some point... Some of us sooner than others! Or maybe someone has done that already? Good job and comments by other views. See you again soon.
It's exactly like a 3d printer, but with a router instead of a hot nozzle. That would be a bodacious 3d printer setup as well. In fact they ought to combine the two and have either a double head (with the associated weight penalty) or swappable head, so you can use the same framework and control software as either a router or printer.
Wondering if it would be possible to cut a logo into a cutting board that measures 12”x17” inches. The logo size I want to cut would be 9”inches wide by 6” high cut depth about 1/8 thanks
How computer savvy does one need to be to operate this machine? Is operating offline sufficient for carving words and phrases? Can you do your own images while operating offline?
Hi, please advise me. If the max machining area of TwoTrees TTC 450 is 480x480mm, what is the max width of the plate I can put between the arms so I don't have to cut it? That is, if I can fit a 510x XXX board in there and clamp it? Jde mi o to že mám desky 400x500 a nechci ji řezat aby tam vlezla Thank you in advance
Followed the instructions to align them. Back the supports up until one hits the back of the frame, disconnect that support and motor, use the controls to move the other motor until the other support hits the frame, reconnect. Or use a measuring tape. No need to split hairs here. The motors move in sync whether the gantry supports are aligned or not - they're wired together.
If it can cut 3/4 ply, it can easily cut 2mm acrylic. You may need to use a double stick adhesive and a backer to keep small pieces from flying out when the cut is complete.
Could this route below the base? I need to route small areas on bigger panels and begrudge paying thousands more for a wider work area I won’t use. If this could be placed on top the workpiece, it may be the solution I need…
Cool video, affordable and looks like the working area is pretty nice. Im going to look into this more and see if someoen has a dust collection/vaccum set up. I am in an apartment garage with my laser. adding a CNC may be pretty cool for my services.
Yes, as long as it's powered externally (ie not by the machine due to current limitations), controlled manually, and you can make a bracket to attach it. But I personally wouldn't. The spindle that's on it is the max load this machine can take imo. A good starter machine for a beginner to learn from for a relatively low cost, but if you want to do serious work with a proper aftermarket router then I suggest considering a more rugged machine. Check out my other cnc reviews for options.
@@JamesBiggar Thanks for the insight. I plan on getting my first one for wood working. I'll check out your other vids, which one would you suggest that is more rugged, applicable with aftermarket router? (my budget is max $600, i already have a bunch of trim routers so i'll be using those to save)
Sorry, I've never tried any sort of stone before, but I think a couple of people were talking about it in the comments. They might be able to answer your question.
I will say that having v-wheels does mean it's not as sturdy as other designs. It can machine aluminum but I wouldn't expect the wheels to last for long under a lot of load like that. For hard materials like stone, you might be better off checking out some of the other machines that I've reviewed.
Im so interested about this CNC machine , but the problem is I haven't any ideas about Coding and program . could you please tell me how can I process it ?
You don't need to be a programmer or know how to write code. All you need to learn is CAD and CAM software. It's as easy to learn as any other software. The software generates the code itself. All you have to do is draw your design, set up your machine and material, then send the code to the machine as I showed. CNC machines are essentially plug and play these days.
Muito bom! Tem muitas aplicações! Mas a única coisa que não substitui aí é o homem que desenha que projeta que crie o desenho da peça. Rapaz se eu tivesse uma CNC dessa daí eu fazia um avião em apenas um 1 semana.
I just pressed start. If I can run my router into overtime, then I should be able to run a cnc spindle into overtime or it gets replaced with a router.
...bear in mind that 15 hours involved two separate processes done on two separate days. Watch the video carefully. Easel generates separate g-codes for roughing and finishing a 3d engraving. Regardless, cooling fans are always designed to suit the motor they're supposed to cool in normal operating conditions. The motor temp isn't going to change much (if at all) from 30 minutes into a job vs 10 hrs into a job. The cooling fan should be managing it fine as long as the spindle isn't being overloaded. If it is, then internal temperature increases accordingly. If it exceeds the coil insulation rating (at least 150C), then it will melt and short the windings. If your spindle temp increases uncontrollably without any change to its environment, then replace it or reevaluate how you're using it. That shouldn't be happening regardless what motor you're using in any type of machine.
wow. what a great machine. love it. You mentioned that it can run G-code. I'm very new to this, but how can you load the G-code on the device and is it possible to use FluidNC?
I assume it could be compatible with FluidNC given that it uses an ESP32 grbl controller, but there's no mention of it in the specs. I would just stick with the firmware that's installed. As mentioned in the video, you need a g-code sender to send a g-code to the machine if you don't work exclusively offline through the terminal and sd card. A g-code sender is software designed to control a cnc machine. There's loads of free software to do this, like Candle and UGS (both provided with the machine - I demonstrated Candle in the video). But before you can import a g-code to the machine, you need to create it first. That's why I like Easel. It's an all in one software that allows you to design/draw your project in 2D and from that it creates a 3D model for reference as well as a g-code that you can either use through Easel to control the machine as shown in the video, or export it via sd card to use through the offline terminal, or export it to a g-code sender like Candle instead. But this machine has become a little sloppy since this upload due to the v-wheels and their placement. Twin v-wheels with a wide span or linear rails are better. Check out my channel for other options.
Wow thanks so much for your comprehensive reply! I plan to make my g-code manually using a python script (long story). Would a g-code sender still be able to send the .NC file across? Do you know how that would work? Or would I be forced to just load it manually offline using the SD card?
Technically no. SD cards are twice the size. TF = MicroSD. TF was the term used before SanDisk Association standardized the micro format and rebranded it as MicroSD. Some (generic) manufacturers still brand them as TF cards, others call them by the newer term. Ultimately there's no difference. Tomato, tomato.
Great video. Just getting into this. Just wondering if anyone can tell me, if I get someone to create designs for me can they create them to be compatible with any machine/software? I want to buy a machine/brand that i know someone will be able to create files for me to use. Thanks all
These machines are a lot of fun but be prepared for large electric bills for running 500 watts for so many hours. Thats what happened to me with my home made CNC router.
500 watts * 15 hrs = 7500 watthours. Local utility rate is ~13¢/kWh, avg in US/Canada is 16¢/kWh. 7.5 kWh * 0.16 = $1.20. ~$55/m to run 24/7, 7 days a week. That's assuming that a person doesn't have an off grid system like mine (I design/build wind and solar energy equipment). I sold that fish for $40. Speaking as a 25 year journeyman, if a person can't recoup the cost to buy and operate tools of any kind in either personal benefit or commercial value, then they're doing something wrong.
Insane that they don’t sell a simple aluminum adapter plate for 65mm routers. Seriously.. WTF?.. I have had mine for years and still no plate. I keep getting side tracked before I mill one and a 3d printed plate or wood one is just silly. Two trees needs to get it together.
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I just put mine together, turn it on and attempt to home it and it goes into negative numbers. Two Trees is unavailable for support, have you heard of this issue before?
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the most interesting aspect for me here is the cut time... 15 hours for the 2 pass fish carving... that kind of info is really valuable to know when looking at these. cheers
Could be faster even with the stock spindle, I just used the presets in Easel which are conservative benchmarks for safely starting out with (according to Easel - see exclamation in cut settings tab). Processing time would be reduced a lot more with the 1.5 kW spindle or a Makita trim router (+$150 in cost). How fast it removes material will depend mostly on how much hp the spindle has and the bit being used. If the spindle can't remove material faster than the x and y axis motors can move then it'll just chatter and jam. Optimal feed rates and doc will always take some experimenting with a new machine, especially for a newb. At least, that's been my experience with printers and lasers.
@@JamesBiggar ah, thanks again. Ive really only used manual plunge routers and 3d printers.
that also makes a threaded drive and the small nema's make more sense now.,,,
@@JamesBiggar I assume you did not just stand by the machine for all 15 hours though, to clean off the material that was being generated during the cutting.
So maybe you did it in segments, starting and stopping accordingly?
@@JamesBiggar Are you suggesting that one could easily buy this machine and upgrade it with a Makita trim router for significant performance gains at just +$150 extra? How straightforward is a clean installation (e.g. no loss of precision)?
Cool little machine. just some info, when cutting (from my machine shop experience) I was always taught snub up the bit short as possible to reduce chatter and flexing. from this video it looks like its out a lot. We also used used endmills where the shank and cutting section are different diameters to help as well
Wow. Thirty seconds into this video and I'm already super jealous of that machine and I'm not even sure everything is been taken out of the box yet. Grrr. Lol.
Just started looking for an affordable cnc for my little shop and thanks to you looks like I found it. You showed everything I would be wanting to do minus drilling (cribbage boards mostly) and more. Thanks and the price is just right for me. Have a wonderful day and thanks for sharing.
This seems great for entry level/learning, but no more than that. As it is now I've been laser engraving/cutting for about a Year and I am going to focus on it for another Year or so before adding to my work area with a proper CNC machine. I might just get one of these to learn the basics before I invest in a proper setup. Nice video, I didn't know this existed until I saw this- I'm going to look into this a bit more!
Love seeing the versatility of this CNC router machine! Can't wait to see what creative projects you come up with next 🛠️
I just bought one. Thank you for the information. I know 3d printing and laser cutting. I need this to cut acrylic plastic. I think I'll be ok.
Good evening. How was your experience with it so far? I've been thinking about buying it to cut plastic boards as well.
Enjoyed the presentation of your video. It was presented quickly but gave all of the details. So many vloggers make their videos too long.
Thanks!
I bought one because of this video waiting for it to get here next week. Can't wait to put it together
Hope you enjoy it! If you're a noob like me then be sure to read through the comments from other viewers for some tips on how to use it more efficiently 👍
I got the 500 watt upgrade but I'm still waiting for the CNC. It seems to upgrade part came first but I can't track where the CNC is @@JamesBiggar
Did you receive the machine yet? How's it going?
@@ALCRAN2010 (the silence of the learning curve)
Hows the machine working?
Great to see you getting into one of these machines James! Now you're just limited to your creativity which all of us that watch you know is limitless ;). I can hardly wait. I have and use a wood router (Onefinity) as well for signs and other small things ... but its the out of the box projects that you will shine like welding/bolt hole pattern jigs, electrical enclosures and beyond. I'll eat my shirt if you don't upgrade to a larger machine in lets say 4 years (being conservative here). Lots of fun watching you go and congrats! Daryl
I've had a kit with Nema 23's for a larger custom machine sitting in a box on a shelf for years. Too intimidated to put it together. But that'll change soon. Thanks Daryl, great to hear from you again!
My first CNC was a shapeoko XXL. It might have been a bit much to start with but it was easy to work with. I highly recommend starting with something that is of higher quality. These little Chinese $400 machines are worth as much as you pay for them and outgrow them in months. The CNC was paid for with the projects I sold in 6 months. I didn't buy it to sell anything at first but people love this stuff and I couldn't resist selling it. Fast forward 5 years and I'm still running the same CNC with very few issues. Now I need another one to add to the shop. Just something to think about before you run out and buy a piece of lower quality.
I'd like to see someone using a machine like this to work on marble painting, I'm sure they can come with some amazing symmetrical designs not achieved yet by hand.
Thanks for sharing this video and your knowledge I’m new here and to cnc machines looking into getting one this one looks amazing and the price is great for beginners like me I haven’t found any cheaper its impressive but I have zero experience with anything like this enjoyed it anyway thanks
using a shop vac will help cut down on brushing when cutting wood or acrylic trust me it makes a difference
They actually have a companion vac for this on their website
I may need this in my life.
Tool geometry will make all the difference in cutting results. Always keep your tool as close to the spindle as possible. If you’re going to do aluminum I’d suggest a cutting fluid call Alumi Tap. Made specifically for aluminum, works great! Speeds and feed rates will also produce better results.
WIth all these lightweight machines, using trochoidal or vortex milling for aluminum or brass can't be recommended enough. Estlcam offers this option. Will save you $$$ in milling tip currency.
now you need to add a vacuum and hose to suck up all the dust and millings. After that last cool Carving this would be cool for cabinet stuff.
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Metal dowels for locating on 2 sides then new clamps Pro tip : Watch Feed and speeds (tools have specific feeds speeds/ chip load could go faster or run carbine/cobalt) if metal vibrates you can use modeling clay to keep vibration down
You might try using masking film on the surface to reduce tear out.
I have found paraffin to be a very effective cutting/cooling agent for aluminium.
beeswax works even better.
@@RudyVandenbelt worked as a toolmaker for many years and always used paraffin for machining aluminium - never heard of beeswax being used - interesting thanks.
Amazing for the price.
Well, $400 cnc, not horrible. Dust Extraction of ANY sort would have been a much better result and easier on your tools. Watching those silly clamps killed me. That machine will never cut anything with the depth of those bolts. Why risk hitting them when they could be maybe 1.25 length at max. Cool video. This looks like a great first CNC to learn the process before buying a $4-6k setup. Glad we are able to get into CNC so cheap in 2024.
I'm looking to get a machine of similar size but haven't decided on one yet. I don't have extensive CNC experience besides what I learned at high school many years ago, but come from a 3D printing background which is similar in some ways.
I am planning to use it for plastics and light aluminum mostly for electronics enclosures and control panels and such. Do you think this model would be suitable for engraving finer/smaller text, such as switch labels onto aluminium panels?
The ttc450 can engrave aluminum, but I'm not sure how long the v wheels will hold up and maintain accuracy. I think it's better for just wood and plastics for long term use. Check this one out: ruclips.net/video/l5CVuSz4Ifk/видео.html
Theres a 3d printable CNC made by Ivan Miranda. He has files for the device.
Can you setup and use vectric vcarve pro with this machine?
Hello, I have a question, with this machine can I engrave 1" wood letters?And if it is possible, which one do you recommend?
Hi.. how long does it take to carve the flower on birch plywood?
amazing! What type of bits do you use to cut metal?
@jamesbiggar Curious, would this maybe work to route acrylic well?
Thank you so much for the excellent video! I can't believe the price of the machine and the quality of the work it seems to do! Are you still happy with it?
Meh. It's ok for a beginner to learn and make mistakes with, but it wore out fast and became a bit wobbly after a few more projects. I think the aluminum did it in. Too much for it. Rubber v wheels aren't a good choice for these machines, especially when working hard material. There are better sub $1000 machines. Check out my Anolex 3030 pro review. It's a little smaller but it's far better than this with a rugged frame, linear guide rails and better motors and controller for only $200 more.
@@JamesBiggar thank you so much for the information! The Masuter 3 is supposed to be pretty good so I’ll look into that a bit more. thank you once again.
Just want an entry level hobby machine for acrylic signs, would you recommend?
Does Freecad work well with this CNC?
Hi! Very interesting video. I was trying to get info about CNC routers, i'm quite new to this topic, and seems search recommended me your video. So considering this was 9 months ago and you probably got more experience, do you think this TTC450 would be a good pick for the first time experience? Mostly i want to cut carbon plates and maybe alluminium. Also i have a 3d printer and it is interesting to see some similarity.
Would this work well for cutting holes in 1/8" PVC or vinyl?
Nice. One thing I'd like to know though, is whether the claims for 0.1mm accuracy are anywhere close to being valid. Thanks!
🤷♂️ All I know is that it does what I need it to do. Normally, my tolerances as a carpenter/woodworker are a bit higher given the limits of conventional measuring and cutting tools lol. If I needed to cnc a part for an engine or something, that would be a different story. But as happy as I am with it (as a newb), it's still just a hobby machine at the end of the day. A good starting point to learn and get some experience, but I don't expect perfection from it.
How safe is it to operate without any form of enclosure around it? Can't a bit break and just fly off at speed? Also it seems very noisy and hardly something you might leave running overnight.
It's no more dangerous than the routers that I've been using as a carpenter all my professional life, which are handheld and twice as powerful. No, a bit can't just fly off at speed unless you forget to tighten the chuck. Yes, of course it's loud. It's a router machine. Routers are loud, whether they're connected to a cnc or not. That's why it's in my workshop where I work, not in my house where I sleep. It seems you don't have much experience working with power tools.
That’s an amazing machine! Would it be enough to engrave a few letters on marble?
You would need a few more things. Marble would need cooling for the tool. So you would also need to replace the spoil board with something plastic. As the mdf would get ruined. Would also have to make sure all the connections get some splash protection. Would also need diamond tip tools.
you would probably want a faster spinning spindle with a diamond bit
We’ve had luck with an 1/8” one flute and blowing air on 3/8” thick aluminum. M
Cut out some pretty slick spur gears this week with our Shapeoko Pro.
Good video, I would have used a 1/16 ballnose with 5 to 10% stepover though on the fish on the finish pass as you can set an almost invisible stepover marks, a v bit by its nature can't really have a stepover as it terminates at a point, another option would be a flat ended v bit which you could set a 4 or 5% stepover
Thanks for the video. Did you have to purchase other software to use this? Did it come with it's own software and if so was it easy to use? Are there publicly shared programs to use with this machine? I'm just full of questions and trying to determine if something like this is worth getting into.
Can you use solid wood?
good work ..good presentation
Do they not make reverse spiral bits? Opposite of a drill. In this way the cutter face is cutting from the workpiece top to bottom. Leaving clean edges at the top. Air or water vapor depending on material blows the chips out of the bottom and into the exhaust stream(vacuum)
You mean downcut bits. There are numerous different bits that loads of different bit manufacturers make. Upcuts for good chip removal and clean bottom edges, downcut for clean top edges and not so good chip removal, o flute, two flute, 3 flute, 4 flute, 5 flute, hss, titanium, coated, carbide to name a few. As mentioned, I was a noob and my bit collection was very limited/basic. Otherwise I would've used a downcut for the first couple of steps and switched to an upcut for the rest, like scoring plywood with a knife before cutting with an upcut jigsaw or circ saw to prevent burrs and chipping out the top veneer surface. Clean edges on both sides.
Paraffin is the preferred cutting lubricant for aluminium, wd 40 or any release oil is similar.
Like the cutting oil that I used...
Does it come with the files to cut new spoil boards (My very first thought) as anyone will need new ones at some point...
Some of us sooner than others!
Or maybe someone has done that already? Good job and comments by other views. See you again soon.
hello i have ttc 450 now i started to use artcam but i don't know which one machine file format
can your help
Very nice review! ;)
It's exactly like a 3d printer, but with a router instead of a hot nozzle. That would be a bodacious 3d printer setup as well. In fact they ought to combine the two and have either a double head (with the associated weight penalty) or swappable head, so you can use the same framework and control software as either a router or printer.
They actually sell a 10W diode laser module to swap with the spindle for laser engraving. I should've mentioned that in the video.
@@JamesBiggar "They actually sell a 10W diode laser module to swap with the spindle for laser engraving."
Thanks for the info, that is interesting.
Wondering if it would be possible to cut a logo into a cutting board that measures 12”x17” inches. The logo size I want to cut would be 9”inches wide by 6” high cut depth about 1/8 thanks
Work area is 18"x18"x3.15"
How much the machine is?
Can it be extended?
Great job on the video. Check out what kind of DIY dust collection shoe options are available.
How computer savvy does one need to be to operate this machine? Is operating offline sufficient for carving words and phrases? Can you do your own images while operating offline?
price?
Hi,
please advise me. If the max machining area of TwoTrees TTC 450 is 480x480mm, what is the max width of the plate I can put between the arms so I don't have to cut it? That is, if I can fit a 510x XXX board in there and clamp it? Jde mi o to že mám desky 400x500 a nechci ji řezat aby tam vlezla
Thank you in advance
can you put a single flute bit to cut 0.045mm aluminum sheet?
how did you ensure both Y axis motors were exactly aligned, and moving as a single unit?
Followed the instructions to align them. Back the supports up until one hits the back of the frame, disconnect that support and motor, use the controls to move the other motor until the other support hits the frame, reconnect. Or use a measuring tape. No need to split hairs here. The motors move in sync whether the gantry supports are aligned or not - they're wired together.
Good video, do you think it could cut through 2mm cast acrylic, I need to cut some shapes out?
If it can cut 3/4 ply, it can easily cut 2mm acrylic. You may need to use a double stick adhesive and a backer to keep small pieces from flying out when the cut is complete.
@JamesBiggar
Your links don't work anymore also do you have an update on your review of this?
Link's working fine. Traffic all day. No video update. I recommend reading the comments.
@JamesBiggar thanks for checking, I will try it again.
Could this route below the base? I need to route small areas on bigger panels and begrudge paying thousands more for a wider work area I won’t use. If this could be placed on top the workpiece, it may be the solution I need…
I've been trying to buy one but two trees won't respond to me. Any ideas?
Cool video, affordable and looks like the working area is pretty nice. Im going to look into this more and see if someoen has a dust collection/vaccum set up.
I am in an apartment garage with my laser. adding a CNC may be pretty cool for my services.
Can you cut 1-2" thick foam in this machine?
Yes.
olá Fernando que bom esse canal para cnc ,já tenho uma , mais fiquei curioso com essa que vç recebeu para divulgação...parabens!
Is it possible to upgrade the spindle with an aftermarket router?
Yes, as long as it's powered externally (ie not by the machine due to current limitations), controlled manually, and you can make a bracket to attach it. But I personally wouldn't. The spindle that's on it is the max load this machine can take imo. A good starter machine for a beginner to learn from for a relatively low cost, but if you want to do serious work with a proper aftermarket router then I suggest considering a more rugged machine. Check out my other cnc reviews for options.
@@JamesBiggar Thanks for the insight. I plan on getting my first one for wood working. I'll check out your other vids, which one would you suggest that is more rugged, applicable with aftermarket router? (my budget is max $600, i already have a bunch of trim routers so i'll be using those to save)
Can this machine print to cut?
Aluminum is like butter, you need to take deep cuts, never less than .030 and you paint solvant to prevent chip the adhere
Ball screw or lead screw drive?
Lead screw
How does this compare to the genmitsu 4040?
Haven't used the 4040 to say. I'll be reviewing the 4030 V2 very soon though.
I'd like to engrave stones, particularly refractory bricks. Is it possible with this maschine ?
Sorry, I've never tried any sort of stone before, but I think a couple of people were talking about it in the comments. They might be able to answer your question.
I will say that having v-wheels does mean it's not as sturdy as other designs. It can machine aluminum but I wouldn't expect the wheels to last for long under a lot of load like that. For hard materials like stone, you might be better off checking out some of the other machines that I've reviewed.
Cool video, but why is your ttc450 much faster than mine ?
Thanks. It's not :)
Im so interested about this CNC machine , but the problem is I haven't any ideas about Coding and program . could you please tell me how can I process it ?
You don't need to be a programmer or know how to write code. All you need to learn is CAD and CAM software. It's as easy to learn as any other software. The software generates the code itself. All you have to do is draw your design, set up your machine and material, then send the code to the machine as I showed. CNC machines are essentially plug and play these days.
how good is this one to Genmitsu
PROVerXL 6050 Plus
Genmitsu is much better.
For finishing the fish, a 1mm round nosed bit would have provided better results.
Will this cut carbon fiber?
Muito bom! Tem muitas aplicações! Mas a única coisa que não substitui aí é o homem que desenha que projeta que crie o desenho da peça. Rapaz se eu tivesse uma CNC dessa daí eu fazia um avião em apenas um 1 semana.
Please, I need an easy program for this machine. Thank you very much
11:25 man and machine working together
12:01 the result
Can anyone explain .. how software decide drill bit selection ???😢😢😢
Is the frame alle metal or Plastic?
Metal. No cnc machine is made of plastic.
You need blow out the aluminum chips, it could break the end mill. I use flood coolant, which is messy, but at least it keeps the end mill cool.
I didn't believe the 500w spindle can run up to 15hrs.
How you managed to run the spindle for long time. When is they get so hot just run 30min.....?
I just pressed start. If I can run my router into overtime, then I should be able to run a cnc spindle into overtime or it gets replaced with a router.
...bear in mind that 15 hours involved two separate processes done on two separate days. Watch the video carefully. Easel generates separate g-codes for roughing and finishing a 3d engraving. Regardless, cooling fans are always designed to suit the motor they're supposed to cool in normal operating conditions. The motor temp isn't going to change much (if at all) from 30 minutes into a job vs 10 hrs into a job. The cooling fan should be managing it fine as long as the spindle isn't being overloaded. If it is, then internal temperature increases accordingly. If it exceeds the coil insulation rating (at least 150C), then it will melt and short the windings. If your spindle temp increases uncontrollably without any change to its environment, then replace it or reevaluate how you're using it. That shouldn't be happening regardless what motor you're using in any type of machine.
Wow, impressive
Is this cnc cut thing metal
wow. what a great machine. love it. You mentioned that it can run G-code. I'm very new to this, but how can you load the G-code on the device and is it possible to use FluidNC?
I assume it could be compatible with FluidNC given that it uses an ESP32 grbl controller, but there's no mention of it in the specs. I would just stick with the firmware that's installed. As mentioned in the video, you need a g-code sender to send a g-code to the machine if you don't work exclusively offline through the terminal and sd card. A g-code sender is software designed to control a cnc machine. There's loads of free software to do this, like Candle and UGS (both provided with the machine - I demonstrated Candle in the video). But before you can import a g-code to the machine, you need to create it first. That's why I like Easel. It's an all in one software that allows you to design/draw your project in 2D and from that it creates a 3D model for reference as well as a g-code that you can either use through Easel to control the machine as shown in the video, or export it via sd card to use through the offline terminal, or export it to a g-code sender like Candle instead.
But this machine has become a little sloppy since this upload due to the v-wheels and their placement. Twin v-wheels with a wide span or linear rails are better. Check out my channel for other options.
Wow thanks so much for your comprehensive reply! I plan to make my g-code manually using a python script (long story). Would a g-code sender still be able to send the .NC file across? Do you know how that would work? Or would I be forced to just load it manually offline using the SD card?
excited
So what's a TF card? You mean SD?
Technically no. SD cards are twice the size. TF = MicroSD. TF was the term used before SanDisk Association standardized the micro format and rebranded it as MicroSD. Some (generic) manufacturers still brand them as TF cards, others call them by the newer term. Ultimately there's no difference. Tomato, tomato.
Hello sir this is super cool. I want to learn programming of 3D cutwork can you please guide me?
It's great job
How much is this machine ?
Try some WD-40 when you engrave on aluminum.
Great video. Just getting into this. Just wondering if anyone can tell me, if I get someone to create designs for me can they create them to be compatible with any machine/software? I want to buy a machine/brand that i know someone will be able to create files for me to use. Thanks all
How much this machine
Price
These machines are a lot of fun but be prepared for large electric bills for running 500 watts for so many hours. Thats what happened to me with my home made CNC router.
500 watts * 15 hrs = 7500 watthours. Local utility rate is ~13¢/kWh, avg in US/Canada is 16¢/kWh. 7.5 kWh * 0.16 = $1.20. ~$55/m to run 24/7, 7 days a week. That's assuming that a person doesn't have an off grid system like mine (I design/build wind and solar energy equipment). I sold that fish for $40. Speaking as a 25 year journeyman, if a person can't recoup the cost to buy and operate tools of any kind in either personal benefit or commercial value, then they're doing something wrong.
@@JamesBiggar heck I agree. Most people are only running it for a few hours on the weekends anyway as a hobby
Interesting vid, horrible cuts on those zip ties! flush cut god dam it! haha
maybe a carbide endmill be better for metal
Insane that they don’t sell a simple aluminum adapter plate for
65mm routers. Seriously.. WTF?.. I have had mine for years and still no plate.
I keep getting side tracked before I mill one and a 3d printed plate or wood one is just silly.
Two trees needs to get it together.
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