This is my second week with f2f slowly getting over the learning curve of booking my own loads. I'm pulling one of their new van trailers and found me a little niche area to run. So far so good.
They are not too bad. I'm just running 500 miles roughly from home and back. Doing 2 rounds a week so about 2000 2100 a week home a time or two a week and weekends. My part after deductions is roughly 4kish.
if u looking for excellent oportunity plz let me know. we hiring owner operators. we promise upto 360k year nd we charge only 7 percent of grosss thnks,
Awesome to hear you are happy with F2F, I’ve been following you videos you have very good content and you sound very honest not like in some videos they don’t tell things the way they are. Keep up the good work and on the other hand I’m trying to make up my mine if I should finance a truck and start hauling for F2F I have the driving experience and had a lease truck ones but never owned a truck, what is your advice?
Well you don't actually get paid a fuel surcharge when your booking off load boards. Nothing is separated. You get what you get but it would be nice if f2f did the computation from the ratecon
My two negatives are no real fuel discount and trailer maintenance. To combat not having after hours I book myself a week out by using click n book so 2-3 rate cons at a time come in for signature during office hours or I’m not having to worry til next day office hours.
Yep. That fuel card doesn't make sense. Seems like it would be easy for them to get a card with better discounts. I do have my own card but I would rather try to keep everything consolidated. This week I booked 2 loads after hours and had no issues. I've been trying to check the approved carrier list but that thing is a mess.
I have to agree with most of your Assessments. ONE BAD one, I don't think you mentioned..? Their UNREASONABLE, IRRATIONAL 46.6-MILE daily PC limit. As owner-ops, IT'S LITERALLY OUR business how far we go on PC. IF I'M DONE for the day and going home, especially EMPTY, don't tell me I'm not "allowed" more than 46.6 miles to drive PERSONAL CONVEYANCE miles. That's some control freak, tyrannical BS, no other way to see it, PERIOD. And the 20% is greedy for the little they do. Stealing 20% of the fuel surcharge is mafia/loan shark BS. Then there are the problems with the SAMSARA APP. Then there's the bull-headed arrogance/incompetence when trying to get them to correct an ELD error. Telling it like it is. A spade is a spade.
I left F2F because I think they should let you lease to purchase the trailer because you're in charge for all the maintenance of that trailer, or if they wanna charge you $220 a week that should include maintenance. Basically you're paying $880 a week for a slightly used trailer that never it's going to be yours. But, other than that is a GREAT COMPANY!
@@steadytrucker yeah, like Schneider though they take 35% that includes trailer fee and full maintenance of their equipment, you use their Operating Centers cross country, Shops, etc etc... After doing my numbers I went back to Schneider and I'm making the same as was making at F2F and don't have to be dealing with brokers and worrying about trailer maintenance and buying tires. I think trailer cost should be included in the 20% that F2F takes. Take care sir, keep up with the good videos! Be safe out there!
@@goat4802 I don't think you can go wrong with schneider or landstar. They are both good companies. Not many out there that give you any freedom to pick loads.
@@goat4802 do you have your own authority? I’m lost Schneider is not that great. I drive for Schneider as a O.O but there’s no percentage they don’t tell us fuel surcharge, what the ratecon is for a load, and their average rate for loads is $1.20 a mile (google), plus if you hold on to a mt trailer without clearance for 24hrs they charge you $150 a day until you drop that trailer off or get a load. And let’s be real their trailers are trash and most are rusted to hell with recaps on recaps for tires. Plus they’re extremely regional you can’t book a load from Ca to Tx for example I run the west coast and if I want to go south I have to book a load to Denver then dead head to Tx anytime you switch regions you have to dead head it’s the dumbest board I’ve ever seen 🙄
Is freight by dry van at f2f worth it? Truck stop has average rate at 2.40. 20% brings that down to 1.92 plus trailer rental. Covenant pays 130 plus fuel surcharge .64.
I think that $2.40 a mile is misleading. It really depends on what area your in. You shouldn't have any trouble finding loads for $3 per mile or better for a van. The huge difference between F2F and covenant is the freedom. F2F you go where you want, when you want and haul what you want. You'll never have the opportunity for a $10,000 week at covenant.
I’m stuck between Jrv logistics and F2F I guess it’s whoever calls me first 😂 but I am leaning towards Jrv as they pay for the trailer maintenance and I still get 80%
I want too come to f2f bad but sfi said i need 5000 to 5500 to transfer n basically nothing to go to landstar..big company holding smaller company down .just bs
@@imSincerePromise I don't know much about them but I looked at their website. They look pretty much like most lease operator companies. They lease you a truck and then they dispatch you. Usually you have no say in where you go or for how long. You can get into a lease truck easily. Normally, at these companies, you can expect to run pretty hard. Usually get home once a month. Any more often and it's hard to save money.
@@steadytrucker I’m seeing a lot of mixed reviews on them. More negative than positive. I really want to get onto Force transportation but I wasn’t approved because of “Insurance”. My record is clean tho and MVR
This is my second week with f2f slowly getting over the learning curve of booking my own loads. I'm pulling one of their new van trailers and found me a little niche area to run. So far so good.
Awesome,, how are the rates in your area?
They are not too bad. I'm just running 500 miles roughly from home and back. Doing 2 rounds a week so about 2000 2100 a week home a time or two a week and weekends. My part after deductions is roughly 4kish.
if u looking for excellent oportunity plz let me know. we hiring owner operators. we promise upto 360k year nd we charge only 7 percent of grosss thnks,
On my way to F2F now so far everything I’ve seen about this company has been good 👍🏽
Good luck. Hope you like it as much as I did
Awesome to hear you are happy with F2F, I’ve been following you videos you have very good content and you sound very honest not like in some videos they don’t tell things the way they are. Keep up the good work and on the other hand I’m trying to make up my mine if I should finance a truck and start hauling for F2F I have the driving experience and had a lease truck ones but never owned a truck, what is your advice?
F2f has a lease program. They don't advertise it but I was told that it's similar to schneider lease.
@@steadytrucker Good to know I’ll keep that in mind be safe and God bless.
They have no right to take any of your fuel surcharge. You’re paying for the fuel, and they’re fuel discount sucks.
Well you don't actually get paid a fuel surcharge when your booking off load boards. Nothing is separated. You get what you get but it would be nice if f2f did the computation from the ratecon
My two negatives are no real fuel discount and trailer maintenance. To combat not having after hours I book myself a week out by using click n book so 2-3 rate cons at a time come in for signature during office hours or I’m not having to worry til next day office hours.
Yep. That fuel card doesn't make sense. Seems like it would be easy for them to get a card with better discounts. I do have my own card but I would rather try to keep everything consolidated. This week I booked 2 loads after hours and had no issues. I've been trying to check the approved carrier list but that thing is a mess.
@@steadytrucker yep that’s why I haven’t gotten my own fuel card yet rather have it streamlined on one card
just did orientation yesterday. gonna start out doing power only until i get my own flatbed. how much do they take out for samsara?
No company should not be keeping fuel surcharge. We pay for fuel not them..
I have to agree with most of your Assessments. ONE BAD one, I don't think you mentioned..?
Their UNREASONABLE, IRRATIONAL 46.6-MILE daily PC limit.
As owner-ops, IT'S LITERALLY OUR business how far we go on PC.
IF I'M DONE for the day and going home, especially EMPTY, don't tell me I'm not "allowed" more than 46.6 miles to drive PERSONAL CONVEYANCE miles.
That's some control freak, tyrannical BS, no other way to see it, PERIOD.
And the 20% is greedy for the little they do. Stealing 20% of the fuel surcharge is mafia/loan shark BS.
Then there are the problems with the SAMSARA APP.
Then there's the bull-headed arrogance/incompetence when trying to get them to correct an ELD error.
Telling it like it is. A spade is a spade.
I left F2F because I think they should let you lease to purchase the trailer because you're in charge for all the maintenance of that trailer, or if they wanna charge you $220 a week that should include maintenance. Basically you're paying $880 a week for a slightly used trailer that never it's going to be yours. But, other than that is a GREAT COMPANY!
I completely agree. Doesn't make sense but I guess most companies charge you in one way or another.
@@steadytrucker yeah, like Schneider though they take 35% that includes trailer fee and full maintenance of their equipment, you use their Operating Centers cross country, Shops, etc etc... After doing my numbers I went back to Schneider and I'm making the same as was making at F2F and don't have to be dealing with brokers and worrying about trailer maintenance and buying tires. I think trailer cost should be included in the 20% that F2F takes. Take care sir, keep up with the good videos! Be safe out there!
@@goat4802 I don't think you can go wrong with schneider or landstar. They are both good companies. Not many out there that give you any freedom to pick loads.
@@goat4802 do you have your own authority? I’m lost Schneider is not that great. I drive for Schneider as a O.O but there’s no percentage they don’t tell us fuel surcharge, what the ratecon is for a load, and their average rate for loads is $1.20 a mile (google), plus if you hold on to a mt trailer without clearance for 24hrs they charge you $150 a day until you drop that trailer off or get a load. And let’s be real their trailers are trash and most are rusted to hell with recaps on recaps for tires. Plus they’re extremely regional you can’t book a load from Ca to Tx for example I run the west coast and if I want to go south I have to book a load to Denver then dead head to Tx anytime you switch regions you have to dead head it’s the dumbest board I’ve ever seen 🙄
@@RandySoWavvy I’ve been with Schneider oo for 3 months now and I don’t like it, looking to move soon
Is freight by dry van at f2f worth it? Truck stop has average rate at 2.40. 20% brings that down to 1.92 plus trailer rental. Covenant pays 130 plus fuel surcharge .64.
I think that $2.40 a mile is misleading. It really depends on what area your in. You shouldn't have any trouble finding loads for $3 per mile or better for a van. The huge difference between F2F and covenant is the freedom. F2F you go where you want, when you want and haul what you want. You'll never have the opportunity for a $10,000 week at covenant.
@@steadytrucker yeah i make average 9700 before deductions with 5000 miles
What lanes did you run? I live in Houston area
I did mostly texas and surrounding stares. Occasionally out west and back.
I’m stuck between Jrv logistics and F2F I guess it’s whoever calls me first 😂 but I am leaning towards Jrv as they pay for the trailer maintenance and I still get 80%
Lol yeah sometimes it comes down to that. Does jrv let you do power only? Do they let you carry for anyone or do they limit at all?
Can we get an update on your choice?
Is there anyway to talk to you about f2f via cell call?
Shoot me an email wmtransportllc@gmail.com I may not remember much it's been 2 years
I want too come to f2f bad but sfi said i need 5000 to 5500 to transfer n basically nothing to go to landstar..big company holding smaller company down .just bs
Landstar is a good company too. I liked it there. Not a bad place to be until you get your truck paid off.
@@steadytrucker i heard n looked into them a lot of bs like Schneider..just a lot better pay
@@steadytrucker is super ego any good
@@imSincerePromise I don't know much about them but I looked at their website. They look pretty much like most lease operator companies. They lease you a truck and then they dispatch you. Usually you have no say in where you go or for how long. You can get into a lease truck easily. Normally, at these companies, you can expect to run pretty hard. Usually get home once a month. Any more often and it's hard to save money.
@@steadytrucker I’m seeing a lot of mixed reviews on them. More negative than positive. I really want to get onto Force transportation but I wasn’t approved because of “Insurance”. My record is clean tho and MVR
Do they have reefer trailer
I'm not sure about reefer. I know they have flatbed and van
Were is f2f out of
Chattanooga, TN
You guys be safe out there 👍
@@albertmartin6298 you too
Are you still there
I've got my own authority now.
@@steadytrucker are you doing power only with your new authority
@@ricksamuel5260 yes
With what company or you using TQL
@@ricksamuel5260 I use any agent that needs a load moved
Landstar is a much better outfit. Not many brokers wanna deal with F2F.