Some really nice precision marching through out this show. Great to see forms hit then morph to the next picture. Not a big fan of literally spelling things out on the field but it kinda works here.
Richard Williams I mean if you imagine a person on an island who is abandoned, that person would try to send for help with a signal spelled out with flames so I think it fits
Curiously, many of the marching members have commented that although they spell the word "Found", they said they were not saved by an outside rescue team by the end. They had a spiritual epiphany and were figuratively "found", but they were told by the design team that they were not rescued. So odd. So confusing.
@@ipadbossbaby4558 The audience’s expectation is for a legitimate physical rescue. Writing the word “found” leads the audience to believe in a presumed story point, not some esoteric, oblique, unlikely and strained metaphorical reference to death, Alexander Dumbas
It works because it's part of what people would do if stranded on an island. At least see that. They would write SOS and things like BAC was here. This may be the ONLY time spelling words would be entirely welcomed and loved.
The GAP means alot you are correct...F>Y>I Visual analysis is woth 8 points...My corps scored perfect 8's for 2 weeks until finals..we depended on it ..At DCI finals a corps memeber had appendicitis , actually the day before and our VA scores became 7.6 we lost by 2 tenths..ALL sections improved but VA was lost.......I WISH SPACING MEANT MOE TO THE CORPS today, I marched DCA and if I arrived at my dot and the line ahead was off, I was told just stay on your dot...we used to adjust for that set
The dramatic action of this piece is decidedly Lord of the Flies-esque, except any good director knows it's impossible to go through two hours' worth of metaphoric societal transformation in eleven minutes without words. It ends up exhausting itself, running from drill set to drill set, and by the end we don't know who deserves to be found, who deserves redemption or why. Any emotional resonance is lost because we don't know who to root for, or what their transformation was by the end of the show.
You might be overthinking it a bit, while the show does have some aspects of Lord of the Flies thrown in it I don’t think it’s the main theme of the show. It’s just about being lost on an island and then saved later on, nothing more in my point of view.
@@milbryj.5724 Of course, "lost and saved" isn't enough to fill an eleven minute show. They did the opposite and created tons of confusion sub-scenes that went nowhere. In terms of a salable movie script or play or TV show or opera or any other type of music entertainment, this progression didn't cut it. The problem is there isn't a central activity for these castaways. There isn't a single objective. The focus is way too scattered and faction-driven. The way to fix it is to add a central focus on a radio, which periodically announces news of their incident, progress and finally their rescue. The news impacts them as a society, and spurs them to action, and takes them through a variety of emotions and ultimately the joy of rescue. (It wouldn't have killed them to define some characters, either. Are all these castaways the same age and from an east coast dance troupe? And why are they all wearing outfits from the Flintstones on Ice?) The radio is an understructure device that helps define the action and focus the scene. Otherwise you get a fuzzy, scattered, chaotic progression, like this show.
@@omfgacceptmyname I'm trying to shock marching members into an awareness of design. I'm shocking marching members and audience members into holding designers accountable to make shows that make sense. What are they performing? What's the show about, underneath it all? Is there a deeper meaning? If not, why not? In the professional world of performing arts, you can't just string together a bunch of "impressions" on a topic and call it a show. That would never fly in the real world. Even music videos are playfully abstract, but they have some meaning underneath-- there's something to follow that transforms by the end of the song, even something silly or frivolous or lighthearted. But that's what many drum corps designers are missing. For example Crown's 2018 Beast was simply a series of impressions of beast-like behavior, and at the end, they rolled out a huge tarp with a picture of a beast on it. That's not a show. This show lacked a clear point of focus that the audience could follow and observe a transformation. By the end, they spell the word "Found", but who these castaways are "found" by is unclear. Rumor had it that the word "found" meant that they perished on the island, and that is an amateur director's choice. The obvious ending we all want to see in a show like this in an upbeat young adult music activity is for people to be saved. (What we really want to see is something, anything have meaning.) But for these castaways who have struggled for the last ten minutes, burning each other, chasing each other, forming cliques, or whatever else their pantomime chaotically suggested, for them to suddenly give up and die is just pointless, abstract garbage, and doesn't even follow the Lord of the Flies, which it is partially based on. So here's the audience painstakingly investing in these castaways, and at the end, the tarp comes along and they all disappear? Are they happy about it? Are they rescued? Are they dead? At some point the audience just shrugs and says "Who cares. I'm glad they're dead. If you've given me no point of focus to invest my attention and care, then I'm checked out by the end." These are some of the basic story principles and design principles that drum corps designers need to be held accountable for. -A clear through-line of action. -Leading the audience through the dramatic action so they're invested in what happens next. -Clear insight on the theme. -Subject and theme and ending are explainable and accessible to everyone. -If an ending has dual meanings or is ambiguous, explain it, and describe it as such. No secrets.
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Classic band camera work.
Drumline: *is having a feature*
Camera person: Oh look at what everyone else is doing
Sad
Taking "attention to details" to a whole new level
What an exhausting show! I saw the RUclips video of this when they played in the park and never knew how physically demanding the marching routine was
Some really nice precision marching through out this show. Great to see forms hit then morph to the next picture. Not a big fan of literally spelling things out on the field but it kinda works here.
Richard Williams I mean if you imagine a person on an island who is abandoned, that person would try to send for help with a signal spelled out with flames so I think it fits
Curiously, many of the marching members have commented that although they spell the word "Found", they said they were not saved by an outside rescue team by the end. They had a spiritual epiphany and were figuratively "found", but they were told by the design team that they were not rescued. So odd. So confusing.
@@jesuspectre9883 Wait what's confusing about that? Seems like you literally answered your own question
@@ipadbossbaby4558 The audience’s expectation is for a legitimate physical rescue. Writing the word “found” leads the audience to believe in a presumed story point, not some esoteric, oblique, unlikely and strained metaphorical reference to death, Alexander Dumbas
It works because it's part of what people would do if stranded on an island. At least see that. They would write SOS and things like BAC was here. This may be the ONLY time spelling words would be entirely welcomed and loved.
It's really hard to unsee the gap from one of the contra players missing.
IMO it's a very good sign that you can always see the gap, that means that their spacing is correct even without that checkpoint
The GAP means alot you are correct...F>Y>I Visual analysis is woth 8 points...My corps scored perfect 8's for 2 weeks until finals..we depended on it ..At DCI finals a corps memeber had appendicitis , actually the day before and our VA scores became 7.6 we lost by 2 tenths..ALL sections improved but VA was lost.......I WISH SPACING MEANT MOE TO THE CORPS today, I marched DCA and if I arrived at my dot and the line ahead was off, I was told just stay on your dot...we used to adjust for that set
This show seemed like a combo of SCV Force of Nature and CC E=MC2 .
I love how they handled Sensemaya :)
I was at this show!!!
Fantastic Show BAC Best wishes to Indy..xoxoxo
Despina Fitzpatrick hey sorry i’ve just started getting into dci, what does bac stand for?
Boston Crusaders
It refers to Boston Crusaders, it stands for Boston Area Crusaders
I was right in front of them in about row 8 for the hit at 3:40
Do they march only baritones??
Yes
Thank you for the video but dude please get a better shot of the field not the stands of the other side.
The dramatic action of this piece is decidedly Lord of the Flies-esque, except any good director knows it's impossible to go through two hours' worth of metaphoric societal transformation in eleven minutes without words. It ends up exhausting itself, running from drill set to drill set, and by the end we don't know who deserves to be found, who deserves redemption or why. Any emotional resonance is lost because we don't know who to root for, or what their transformation was by the end of the show.
You might be overthinking it a bit, while the show does have some aspects of Lord of the Flies thrown in it I don’t think it’s the main theme of the show. It’s just about being lost on an island and then saved later on, nothing more in my point of view.
@@milbryj.5724 Of course, "lost and saved" isn't enough to fill an eleven minute show. They did the opposite and created tons of confusion sub-scenes that went nowhere. In terms of a salable movie script or play or TV show or opera or any other type of music entertainment, this progression didn't cut it. The problem is there isn't a central activity for these castaways. There isn't a single objective. The focus is way too scattered and faction-driven. The way to fix it is to add a central focus on a radio, which periodically announces news of their incident, progress and finally their rescue. The news impacts them as a society, and spurs them to action, and takes them through a variety of emotions and ultimately the joy of rescue. (It wouldn't have killed them to define some characters, either. Are all these castaways the same age and from an east coast dance troupe? And why are they all wearing outfits from the Flintstones on Ice?) The radio is an understructure device that helps define the action and focus the scene. Otherwise you get a fuzzy, scattered, chaotic progression, like this show.
it's really entertaining coming across your comments on these videos
@@omfgacceptmyname I'm trying to shock marching members into an awareness of design. I'm shocking marching members and audience members into holding designers accountable to make shows that make sense. What are they performing? What's the show about, underneath it all? Is there a deeper meaning? If not, why not? In the professional world of performing arts, you can't just string together a bunch of "impressions" on a topic and call it a show. That would never fly in the real world. Even music videos are playfully abstract, but they have some meaning underneath-- there's something to follow that transforms by the end of the song, even something silly or frivolous or lighthearted. But that's what many drum corps designers are missing.
For example Crown's 2018 Beast was simply a series of impressions of beast-like behavior, and at the end, they rolled out a huge tarp with a picture of a beast on it. That's not a show.
This show lacked a clear point of focus that the audience could follow and observe a transformation. By the end, they spell the word "Found", but who these castaways are "found" by is unclear. Rumor had it that the word "found" meant that they perished on the island, and that is an amateur director's choice. The obvious ending we all want to see in a show like this in an upbeat young adult music activity is for people to be saved. (What we really want to see is something, anything have meaning.) But for these castaways who have struggled for the last ten minutes, burning each other, chasing each other, forming cliques, or whatever else their pantomime chaotically suggested, for them to suddenly give up and die is just pointless, abstract garbage, and doesn't even follow the Lord of the Flies, which it is partially based on. So here's the audience painstakingly investing in these castaways, and at the end, the tarp comes along and they all disappear? Are they happy about it? Are they rescued? Are they dead? At some point the audience just shrugs and says "Who cares. I'm glad they're dead. If you've given me no point of focus to invest my attention and care, then I'm checked out by the end."
These are some of the basic story principles and design principles that drum corps designers need to be held accountable for.
-A clear through-line of action.
-Leading the audience through the dramatic action so they're invested in what happens next.
-Clear insight on the theme.
-Subject and theme and ending are explainable and accessible to everyone.
-If an ending has dual meanings or is ambiguous, explain it, and describe it as such. No secrets.
@@jesuspectre9883 not really, you're just being an ass. I do love how you're taking out ur insecurities on the drill designers though! Very cute
This is basically The Cadets from a few years ago. :-(
which show? struggling to figure out which cadets show is similar to this haha
@@haywoodyablowme9486 Pretty sure it's because of the staff because they all went to BAC
Haywood Yablowme Personally towards the ending it feels like cadets 2011 maybe thats what he meant
Haywood Yablowme specifically from 11:00 to 11:30
Nico Fraser Yeah i get what you mean now