I like how ppl say "hi3 is dead" and "no one cares abt that game" but in reality, it is very popular in china and is only a bit of an underground game in the west. Its mostly due to the fact of how old it is and the massive lore dumps that can be a bit too much but over all, it is a very beloved game but it isnt seen too well
I feel like it being old is a factor for sure.. But bc of the first fiew chapters it makes people not like it. They need to make it actually new player friendly. Make the map less a chapter but rather a map. Instead of choosing chapters. Make it a semi open world. And make the story actually progressive.
@@CloudFormore its also very popular in jp and sea and tw, basically every region outside of the west, where even then its still being played, just not as much
@@captainplayshonkai7768 tho he still missed out on a few things and miss-explained some stuff, like prometheus' role in the WoH, she was there to influence its intentions and force the same herrschers as the PE to appear so similar countermeasures could be used, allowing the herrschers to act freely was Elysia. Also missed that Hare is an Idea, and the reason she had not appeared til now was that she was setting the groundwork for project stigma. Also Seele was transported to the moon as ppl with stigmata or were specifically chosen to be placed on the moon temporarily as project stigma did its shit on Earth, seele was just one of the first to get there. Its nice that he caught on to Mei being the HoO was linked to her interactions with the FCs tho, a number of ppl thought jt was unearned, completely forgetting about the the FC signets
@@captainplayshonkai7768 The 💩 is this 1 hour and 49 mins video. He skipped a lot of things. You are probably one of those crazy Ex-HI3rd players. I only started playing this game 1 month ago.. Turns out the mentality you all ex-players have is the same with the Ex-genshin players. 💩💩 On the game because you can't move on.
this game is pretty cool and chill when there’s no people screaming in your ears that its bad and dead Concluding this game is hoyoverse greatest dumpster fire in a 1 hour and 49 minutes video is stupid because I myself took 2 MONTHS to play the story (excluded side stories, events, chronicles and many more) I've known this game since 2021 but I only got a chance to play it in 2023. Before playing I've watched numerous lore videos, gameplay videos and official animated shorts to have basic understandings about the game
The reason Void Archives decided to take Otto's personality wasn't a decision. It was stuck in Otto's body for 500 years as it was Otto's personal weapon. In that time it just adopted a lot of his manerisms and personality traits. Even Void Archives hates that about itself
_HI3_ is my favourite of Mihoyo's games, but then I love the combat and how insane some of the battlesuits are. I quite enjoy the fact I don't have to farm for stigmata, and the story and characterization are just so good. I can forgive the over-detailed world building because it's so fascinating, although I do wish they would keep it at a simpler level. Not every player has a PhD in Quantum Mechanics, and even if we did, we wouldn't expect to have to apply it to _playing a goddamned video game_ . That said, I love the characters, and I have to say I think that that's the strongest part of the game: Those Captains who have been playing from the start spent roughly six years with Kiana, Bronya, Mei and the others, with the story allowing us to get to know them quite intimately. We've been with them through their lowest lows (literally each has been ready to off themselves at once time or another) and their highest highs. Even if we have been playing for less time, we know these girls quite well because of how the story follows them. Can't say the same for _Genshin_ or _HSR_ because as soon as we go to a new region, we leave the locals behind. I think that's where the other games storytelling falls behind. Sure, _HSR_ has the Express crew, but that's all who are consistent. At least Trailblazer has a stronger personality than Traveler. And at least _ZZZ_ seems to more closely follow Wise and Belle. When we stay with the characters for a long time, it makes them feel more human. Dealing with a mostly new cast in Part 2 does give new possibilities. A lot of people complain about moving away from the cast we have grown to know so well, yet we also have the chance to get to know a new cast. At the same time, it's been made clear we're not moving away from the Part 1 crew entirely either, as they're also coming back. That includes Kiana and Mei getting the Astral Ring system (although nothing has been said about Bronya, probably she will too. Astral Ring was based on the same system from APHO). As long as things are handled well, I will continue to play _HI3_ . It's the least likely for me to drop if I need to make space on my computer. _Genshin_ is the most likely. I can't say the slower combat isn't a factor.
HI3rd story desperately needed editors at some points. Reduce the fluff and especially the repetition of sometimes explaining the same thing over and over again with different metaphors.
I’m going to be dropping HI3rd after this Battle Pass is over, for 2 reasons: 1) They completely discarded Co-Op for no apparent reason, replacing it with a completely different single-player mode, and now I can’t play with friends 2) I’m spending all my free time playing catch-up with HI3rd and HSR every time a new update drops, leaving me with no free time to do anything else I still love HI3rd’s combat and story, and I’ll definitely be back for the HI3xHSR Collab, but I need to make time to do other things.
@@prastagus3 That’s true. I’m sad to have to drop HI3rd, but irl is more important, and there’s only so much time available in the day outside of work/school and sleeping. May you quickly get what you’re pulling for in all your gachas, and may RNGeesus smile upon you.
@@Ac3ofDr4gons for co-op - it was bugged, and needed very good Internet connection leaving you sometimes on 4th stage because guy disconnected. And it was needed to upgrade DKs(very outdated system and needs rework, to be honest). So it was a QoL change.
That line smacks so hard that i had to take weeks off from the game in order to recharge myself It really is an emotional line without context its good one With context it destroyed me
I got into the Honkai Impact 3rd rabbit hole over a year and honestly as a relatively new player (when compared to some of the veterans who have been playing for years), Honkai Impact 3rd is still *THE BEST* Hoyoverse game I've ever played 🔥. For anyone saying it's too late to start, *believe me it's not.* Quite a few of my friends got into HI3rd a few months back and they're enjoying the hell outta the game and they're F2P. (I also play HSR as well and it's part of the reason why I started HI3rd, I dropped Genshin because of how repetitive and boring it became) It's very long yes and it definitely takes quite a bit of time to go through the story but that's why I really enjoy it, because of how much effort and care they put into it (along with the fact that I can play the entire story and I don't need to spend a dollar to get past some difficult boss in it). A lot of people fail to realize that if you try and speedrun through the game too fast you're gonna get burnout quickly. *Just play at your own pace.* Some things the review didn't include (because it was made before Part 2 launched) is this: - The pity for the banner systems has been improved for the Part 2 characters (90 pulls or less for the character, and you're guaranteed to get the weapon in less than 60 pulls on the weapon banner + you can forge all the new stigmata for free in the foundry) making it more affordable for F2P players. Plus, you can get more useful materials for upgrading your weapons from pulling. - Memorial Arena now stacks your attempts if you miss a day (you can skip 3 days of the game and have the attempts of all 3 days stacked up when you return) - The Elysian Realm is getting a simplified version upgrade so it's much faster to clear and less tiresome to clear in the upcoming update. - There are now vacation tickets that you can use to auto-clear Adventure Tasks, Universal Mirage, and Weekly Quizzes. - Stigmata > Artifacts; Substat manipulation in Honkai Impact 3rd is honestly so much easier than Genshin grinding (I spent an entire F-ing year trying to get some good middle piece for an artifact set and when it showed up, it was DEF). Once you get the Stigmata in Honkai Impact 3rd, it's yours forever and you can re-roll the sub-stats as much as you please with your gold (a much better offer than Genshin where you mint pick like crazy for several months trying to get a good piece) Powercreep is still a thing (but literally every gacha game has this problem), but from a new player perspective, it's honestly much more affordable and F2P now for new players trying to catch up with the Part 2 Valks + improved gacha system than it was during Part 1. (Coralie is an insanely good F2P support and the game literally gives her for FREE).
I disagree with the pity banner thing. It's not improved but upgrade to be same like the newer mihoyo games minus 50/50 and 1600 currency. Usually I can get expansion valk at 7 ten pull average, stigmata now is easier to get thou. Weapon still need gacha.
@@kaka09876543210 fortunately, the gacha in HI3rd has much better rates with 1.5% for the chara and 2.5% for the weap as opposed to 0.6% for both in every other hoyo game. Combined with the fact that theres no 50/50, and usually only 1 new gacha chara per patch (in the times where there were 2 S ranks, they gave u the 2nd one for free), its tbh way easier to go for every chara in this game than any of the other hoyo games
The Elysian Realm change that you mentioned was apparently only a limited-time thing, cause they’ve removed it now. I do hope it comes back, though. It made completing my weekly Elysian Realm task way easier and faster.
@@kaka09876543210 dont forget that HI3rd has at least double the rates compared to all the other hoyo games (1.5% for chara and 2.4% for weap). Also generally only 1 new S rank per patch (the times there was a 2nd one they gave it for free). Tbh its way easier save up and go for the charas in HI3rd compared to the other games.
Holy moly, this is one well-made video. I've only heard about a couple of bits and aspects of how HI:3rd really is as a game, but sitting down and watching through a condensed, yet still comphrensive summary of the story and some gameplay really tied up all the loose ends I had about this game. It seems amazing, and I can now somewhat understand all the pivotal story moments and references other Hoyo fans make. I only wished I stuck with playing it back in 2018 and experienced it myself, but I guess I have to thank you for playing it so that I didn't have to. Big ups! 👍
"genetically engineered combat lesbians"... As of commenting this I've only seen 19 seconds of this video and hearing you say that already indicates to me that this video is a banger
I have long wanted to play HI3 (or at least get a condensed summary of the story) but couldn't stand actually playing the game. I really appreciate the mountain of work you must have done to complete this video for people like me
I always have a vague knowledge of HI3 lore being incredibly convoluted due to its writing and service time of the game. But one thing that is clear is that the writing and lore of this game just screams passion from the team and incorporated almost all of the sci-fi and fantasy concepts that influenced them into one single game. Although, the result being a it way too complex for a large suave of ppl from even approaching this IP, the shadow of lore and gameplay can be seen in all the other games by Hoyo.
@@prastagus3 oh for sure, it is the first time that Da Wei made his vision come true form all the previous game, I played Honkai Gakuen waaay back in the days and seeing everything they have achieve is really something to behold. Even if the game i not making a lot of money for the development cost and company size they will continue to support as long as they can.
the songs of HI3 stands apart from all other Hoyoverse and almost all gacha games. You skipped Kiana saving Arc City Raiden Mei VA got Covid in that period of Elysium Realm unfortunately thus no Mei lost her voice for a while until latter parts of Chapter 30 ( I think). All hail Pink Jesus. Disagree about getting into HI3 is not worth the time. You can get into it by watching all Part 1 and 1.5 stories online which are the best in any gacha I've played (despite said shortcomings) and start new in Part 2. You can also go back to play Part 1 whenever you like without any need to rush.
21:47 covers Kiana saving Arc City, I skipped the cutscene because I wanted to use that song for the end credits (and also it's not as visually interesting as other HI3 cutscenes, so I cut out large chunks to save time). That is unfortunate about Mei's VA being unavailable, however Hoyo is a multi- _billion_ dollar company and they _have_ redone older parts of HI3 in the past. They could easily fix the hole in the voice acting. Have they finally removed the account level 30 requirement for Part 2? Last I checked, they made it even worse than when I first started (I seem to remember being able to skip around to basically any story chapter when I first started after the tutorial ended, but when I made an alt account to try and get some footage I thought I was missing it forced me to play each chapter in sequence with no way to immediately jump into Part 2).
I've been playing HI3 for 6 years and love the story. You are entitled to your views about it so I won't knock your opinion. Just know some love it and some don't.
@@FiragaJJC I mean, he is, but complaining about things that are already a minimal to non-issue due to solutions that the game has already had in place for months prior, to this review yet he did not use or acknowledge them certainly does not help. For example, he complained about dailies taking too long, completely disregarding the lite button to clear all the mat farming instantly, and they also have it for open world and expeditions too as of a month ago, with the base mat one being in there for over a few years now. He also complained about having to pull every stigmata, when over 6 months ago, either on the same ver part 2 released or the one right after, they let u craft all the new stigs without needing to pull for em. Its like he's reviewing a version of the game thats severely outdated.
The thing is, as of this review coming out there has already been a bunch of qol and gacha changes thats been in there for a few months: 1: all the new BiS stigs (the so called artifacts), are craftable for free, tho u do need to clear things like Memorial arena or the event or the story to get mats for, tho those are participation based NOT competitive 2: They updated the gacha system so that pity is 90, BiS stigs no longer use up pity, and as always, theres no 50/50. Also, rates are higher compared to their other games (1.5% for the chara and 2.5% for the weap). And since its generally only 1 new chara per version (if there are 2 they let u obtain the 2nd one for free), its actually easier to go for charas in this game than in their other games. 3: u can lite (auto skip/complete) all the dailies now, including open world, expeditions, tasks, and even memorial arena provided u participated in memorial arena (MA) the week before (then u can just lite it as long as u keep liting it) Still has the powercreep tho. Tho as always, its only relevant when trying to push into red lotus in abyss (the 2nd highest ranking). Ppl still use old valks and incomplete gear sets up to agony 3, and outside of that, MA gives rewards based on ur participation, not ur score, and they provide u with whatever character to use for everything else. (ER just lets u use any fully built chara u choose even if u dont own em, and story provides u the latest chara at the time)
@@prastagus3 yeah essentially, if u stick to those, u dont need to touch the gacha at all, and u still get to use most if not all the valks since they let u use the latest ones at the time in the story, and in ER u get to use all of em that are in there for free
Gacha on this game is just opcional, is story focus, u dont need to have any character to do the story events etc Gacha is for collection Game modes are only for get crystals for gacha and use your waifus The only thing for what u can use your characters is for grinding and nothing more Min 9 Bronya is not “just its ok now” there are side story in chronicles game mode, fu hua fenghuang down helps bronya to wake up Most of first chapters have side storyes on chronicles and manga maybe u got confused bc u ignore that Kiana (possesed by void) killed 60% of the humanity and destroy most of the planet before himeko stops her She is the only one herrscher that go outside to destroy the world in this samsara Thats why most of cites are abandoned Sa is not comparable to the cocon is 1/10 of it
A huge issue in the beginning is a new player has no way of knowing when to read which manga or when to play which side story / chronicle or when to play which Visual Novel. You really need a guide to play the first third or so of the game. Thankfully they get better with not spreading the story content outside the game later on.
@@pachilousickan5880 is easy to miss bc is just one line of text but go back after hov cinematic or so, it sais that hov destory 60% of the humanity in those months Manga button is on the right side of the screen below chapter but most of ppl ignore that for some reason
been playing the game since 2018, i believe hi3rd truly is the best gacha game ever made, especially for those who took their time to truly understand the lore. It is flawed like most games, but since the announcement of part 2 they started seriously working on making the game better by lowering pity, making stigmata(artifacts) craftable, allowing the players to auto-complete dailies and all the boring tasks, improving the combat even more, making the models look way better during story mode (even relatively older ones), filling the dorm supply with new valkyries, giving a stigmata box every patch and so much more. Despite what some players may say, anyone can enjoy this game f2p no problem, i do.
You did a really good job condensing the story and its problems and I see you did sneakily acknowledge the whole Part 2 situation at the very end. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on what basically reset account/character/story progress, from what Ive understood. Surprised no mention of practically needing a guide on what order to play the different game modes for about the first 1/3 (maybe more) of the game. Or how important all the supplementary content, be it mangas, visual nodes or the limited time events you mentioned, are for the (kinda bloated and sprawling) mess of a story the game has. Although you did kinda imply it, but back when I played it I was very confused on the order of things (and the horrible UI & UX), before finding the guide of Hoyostans. The game does have some really good moments and your video managed to make me tear up from some of the cut scenes and music bringing back memories. But yeah, not really worth jumping into, a small part of me regrets playing through the game a year or two ago. Don't regret playing the story, but regret the effort it took to play through and experience the story. I guess it would be different if I had played it for years, instead of going through all of it over a few months.
There was absolutely no reset. Just new chapters(with trial characters) and new characters, meta shifted, but it shifts since HoV+new charas can be more futureproof if Hoyo plays their cards good.
Interesting video. I've been playing HI3 since 2018 largely as a dolphin. Overall this video is pretty great and I very much enjoyed your summation of the story. While I think experiencing the story over an extended period like I did helps with that feeling of the later parts of the game being "rushed" (If you played in "real-time", it didn't really feel rushed, more like just the final release of build-up), it had the negative side-effect that by the time the later part of the story unfolded I'd literally forgotten some story elements. Your video did a good job refreshing that. I guess the new player experience is also rough compared to the daily life of a veteran like me. For the most part, my daily experience with the game is very different. At this point, I have all the of the characters and most of them (well, the relevant ones) are geared nicely with a few exceptions. As such, there's no need for me to focus on stuff like Mirage, Co-Op (now removed anyway) are really just about any of the grindy stuff you mentioned. Similarly, playing through Elysian Realm was a much more pleasant experience in "real-time" due to the way the game works. Overall HI3 is in this weird place but part 2 is finally starting to pick up and get enjoyable. I'll finish by saying that I think it's unfortunate that your review didn't really outright say that HI3 has, by far, the best animated shorts of any of the Hoyo games 🙂 Still thanks for taking on this epic job. EDIT: One final thing I forgot. I think the reason some HI3 players, myself included, prefer the Weapon and Stigmata system from HI3 is that, utlimately, it's predictable. You will never have to spend more than a fixed amount to fully gear your character. The RNG bullshit of GI and HSR sounds nice but in reality you can spend fucking months trying to get your characters geared nicely in this games. I think if you're a kid or young adult with lots of "free" time to spend grinding that's fine but for older people like myself with a job but less free-time, the ability to trade a bit of money to skip wasting time on RNG equipment is actually a plus. I think also, someone deep in the HI3 endgame like myself generally is able to gain enough crystals each patch through a combination of the monthly pass and just standard daily/weekly gameplay that getting and gearing the new character each patch is not a usually a big deal. This is helped by the fact that character and equipment rates are far better than in the other Hoyo games, meaning your crystals tend to go a little further even if at the end of the day the weekly earnings between HI3 and HSR are actually fairly comparable (I crunched this out a while back because I was bored because I was initially pretty sure HI3 was more generous but after checking and comparing each game fairly (I.e. Just factoring in a monthly pass + standard daily/weekly earnings) it seems like in reality both games give you pretty much the same number of pulls each week))
I played HI 3rd for a long time, and I still didn't get the story as well as you did. Behind all the grinding, LTE, upgrades, pulls for Herschers, I could never keep up. I really appreciate the amount of work you put into these videos. I like having the option of just getting these games story without having to spend months and months grinding and no-lifing it.
@@confusedowl445 This honestly baffled me when I played through the story. How is Hoyo making money and why are people paying for the gacha, unless they just want to support the devs? I went though the entire story using trial valks, made more sense to play as the suits from the story as it went along too. Some chapters you were forced to only use trial/story chars, which was also a strange decision from a money point of view.
@@jepeman great characters, emotional stories that affects the players, dedicated fans, skins, and passion from Da Wei. Also this passion project likely maintained by profits made by Genshin and other successful games. Why? Because this game made Hoyoverse what it is today. Without HI3, Mihoyo would fail as a company and never become Hoyoverse.
@@confusedowl445 Yeah but I play a lot of Gacha games to boost and farm mechanics and make my characters powerful, and since the story mode didn't actually improve my characters, and some LTE were impossible if you didn't farm, you either had to split a lot of time doing story stuff that didn't make your team better, or split a lot of time making your team better but missing out on story. I have the same problem with Genshin and HSR. There is a ton of story but if I just want to play 30m-1hr a day, I cannot keep up with the release schedule
Sometimes I feel like HoYo should just split into an anime production business and a game making one that bases their games off of the animes. While, I love doing some quests in hoyo games and in genshin and hsr it's relatively easy to keep up, hi3 is just... Confusing. And part 2 didn't make it any better. It was supposed to be a new thing that new players can enjoy, but it ended up being way too similar to the storytelling of part 1 (and although it's not half bad actually, I just don't have the patience to do it, since I still have to finish Elysium Everlasting and Thus Spoke the Apocalypse 😭). Seriously, why are we getting a genshin anime, when what we really need is a hi3 one??? Also, amazing video, I can't believe you managed to fit all of the story that I couldn't complete in 2 years into a
Thank you. It's so hard to find someone on RUclips Who actually analyzes the story in-depht, especially the part near the end about the overexplenation of things and overly intricate world Building which Adds almost NOTHING to the story. To me It felt like some writer was Just really proud of the things he came up so they had to shove It in your face every few minutes. I like how much personal hi3 story felt but I really prefer Genshin 's worldbuilding
I dont get the elysian realm take(gameplay), it’s rather a mostly skill related and tactic related mode. So you need the correct buffs, the correct play styles and so on, the only thing janky about it is that the pre-buffs are catered to the newer characters, but that doesn’t mean there’re no work arounds because there’re other buffs such as “use 2 different types of supports to gain _ % physical dmg/elemental dmg”. Elysia WOULD do incredible well in her weather, and the weather being the cycle in which the pre-buffs work best on different characters. Old or new.
Nah, it's only gotten worse with Part 2 characters. Ever since I got Coralie maxed out (which was easy since they gave out her weapon and maxed stigs for free), I can brute force 2.5x difficulty on basically any weather, while any Part 1 valkyries have to have appropriate weather to even approach 2x difficulty. Meanwhile, Sim/Divergent Universe can still be easily cleared with 1.X units, because buff synergies get so crazy people can have stuff like a Herta who does 2-3 million damage every time she spins. As long as it has a timer for the boss fights, Elysian Realm will forever be a glorified DPS check and continue to have this flaw.
@@CDVermilion you're mistaken somehow. I picked Mobius(5.2 character, powercreeped in 5.8), and finished 2.5 difficulty with Kevin as final boss in 07:43. Realm is very easy if you know what you are doing and character is full built.
After playing HSR & Genshin I thought I’d give Hi3 a shot. All I can say is that I regret not giving this game a shot years earlier when I still thought that mobile games aren’t worth playing. The only thing that I dislike is that I’ll never be able to get Asuka from the Eva collab :/ Easily my fav Hoyoverse game.
I'm so excited for the new Version! 😊 But Idk if I should for Vita or the second equipment for HoFi Kiana. It's a tough decision for me, welp but I have time to think about it. Anyway, like some or many said the story will get stronger and better the more u play. I love this game, but it's ok if others don't like it. Everyone has their own opinion and I respect that👍
To be fair, you cant call superstring or memorial arena busywork. They are the endgame modes you pull characters for, the only difference is you get a few stages every week instead of all the stages at once every month. The gear being gacha only isnt as bad as it sounds. With saving and proper planning you can guarantee a full bis set as opposed to farming relics/artifacts for months on end just to have a chance at decent gear that will probably roll everything into flat defense. Whales already spend currency every day on max refresh for gear in HSR/Genshin, and for f2p you just have to account for the gear when planning your pulls.
You are the very first youtuber I have ever seen to talk bad about this game. Even the most hardcore HSR, Genshin impact, And many other gacha players played this game and said about how good this game is, combat, design, story. I bet you didn't even read the storyline and skipped all of it. For those who are saying that the part 2 is really bad then I'd like to remind you that we are only in chapter 4 right now. Even in part 1 most of the players didn't find that good until " Herrscher of the void " came around and I am also one of them. After that all of the Story, CG, Animations are at peak.
@@Desirous-person-of-mind Well, it didnt seem like he skipped everything tho it definitely seems like it was kinda rushed and probably went in with a bit of bias. But he does, kinda lightly, go thru the story. Either way, based on the complaints on the dailies and open world stuff, and the stigma system, it seems they released a review on a version of the game that has been outdated for at least 6 months, honestly seems a lil unprofessional but hey, im not the reviewer
Lord allmighty of all that is anime, this was long! And through all of the high-value production editing, clever jokes, hilarious, layered phrasing and genuinely intriguing way that this guy explains stuff that may or may not turn your brain into mush, I'm thankful for the experience. This was, without a doubt, the return of the God of overexplaining stuff in a simplifyed manner. Posts may take almost as long as every quarter-of-a-year or so, but once it happens, you just know you're in for a treat, in the form of words that cause effects similar to weed. I really hope he sticks around.
I agree with you on a few points pertaining to the story and the handling of lore. In fact, I think a lot of what follows Thus Spoke Apocalypse is pretty bad, the exceptions being the second half of part 1.5 (the Phosphoros arc) and part 2 from the end of chapter 3 onward. There are cool moments sprinkled everywhere, but prior to Phosphoros, I had been complaining every patch about the quality of the story. I've done the same since part 2 started until literally this patch too. Nevertheless, I still believe Honkai is generally unmatched by any miHoYo game with the exception of Guns Girl Z, which is the true narrative goat. Gameplay- and gacha-wise it's definitely the top dog in my eyes.
I won't go over your opinion over HI3, it's your opinion after all, but your comparison with HSR is just dumb. You first added the things you need to do every week in HI3, but for Star Rail you said I simply log-in, auto play, and get my rewards. You forgot Simulated/Divergent Universe, Apocalyptic Shadow, Forgotten Hall, Pure Fiction, those take quite a lot of time on their own. Then you mentioned the events in HI3 as if HSR doesn't have events as well. Moreover, in HI3 once you open a character they are done, ready to go, getting level up materials is cheap and easy. In HSR, once you get a character you need to go in an absurd grind in Stagnant Shadow to level a character up, an absurd grind of Callyx to get their Trace materials and after than an absurd grind to get their Relics from Cavern of Corrosion using a disgusting RNG. HSR does NOT respect a player's time at all, it's infinite times more grind and time consuming than HI3.
All of the grinding to spec out a character in HSR is taken care of by daily grind: select appropriate location (stagnant shadow/calyx etc) and set team to auto. I can do all of it on my phone while I'm doing _literally anything else_ . You also basically never have to do farming when a character comes out if you prefarm (unless it's one of the rare instances of a character being released at the same time as their farming locations). Sim Universe weekly grind is a joke compared to Elysian Realm weekly grind because of Divergent Universe, not to mention the fact that Sim Universe has always been _cumulative_ as opposed to high-score based. Now with DU, I do a single run (often times with all combat on auto because it's stupid easy), and then claim my weekly stuff and leave. Other modes like Pure Fiction, MoC, and Apocalyptic Shadow are endgame content and only have to be done once every month or so, and are actually interesting so I don't consider it a part of daily/weekly upkeep. I suppose the closest HI3 equivalent would be Memorial Arena, but once again power creep has rendered it completely uninteresting because you can just brute force one SSS boss per week and then do LITE for everything else the following weeks. HI3 handles events the worse out of any Hoyo game because they *force* you to play them daily for max rewards, while in _literally any other Hoyo game_ you can binge all of it the day before they end within a few hours and be done with it.
First, "I can do all of it on my phone while I'm doing literally anything else" is not an argument. You still have to restart the grind often, you still have to pay attention and invest literal hours to it. How can you prefarm if you are already farming for previous characters? I guess you prefarm when the callyx for new characters doesn't even exist someway. Elysian Realm grind is a joke compared to Divergent Universe because it's way faster. As someone who plays both games, ER is much faster than DU ever was. Just the time you spend in the shop in DU to upgrade your blessings and overwrite equations/blessings takes as much time as an entire ER run. I do MoC, Pure Fiction and Apocalyptic Shadow on auto up to a certain point, similar to the LITE of MA. Events last more than 30-40 days, you only need to do the daily 5-6 times to get all their rewards. How is that a "requirement to log daily"? Did you play any events?
@@vilinaty dont argue with this fkin idiot, i cant believe this idiot says grinding in HSR is easier than grinding in hi3, even some fkin genshin player knows its easier to raise your character in hi3 than all other hoyo games
The thing that cocolia is bronyas mother is half true her biological parents was Alexandra zaychik and alexey zaychik, fun fact cocolia(matushka) knew bronyas father pretty well before he died and Alexandra died when she gave birth to bronya or close after at least because in chapter 27 or 28 we got to know that misteln shariac(apologize for my spelling) knew bronyas mother and was there when she died.
The game is still going, and the story also has its ups and downs, especially part 2, and the new chapter still gives us that HI3 story telling. The only thing that I don't like is how they make it more open, unlike previous chapter-based. While I don't mind if it's open, the world feels empty instead of giving us some activity, like yakuza games, where you get to do a fun repetitive activity no matter how small they are. The release for the character feels burdensome, especially if you're F2P with bad luck. While we can craft the stigmata for the released character now, it feels nothing changes when they give us stigmata instead of a weapon in its banner, and we need to reach pity for that (my bad luck at its finest) and how the powercreep happens more often than the previous one with all that back-to-back banner change. Right now, the only thing that keeps me going is their event. I hope that they will bring back Captainverse.
1. HI3 translation was very bad, especially english, jp not that much but still bad from what I have heard(I am CN player so I know) but star rail english translation was pretty well localized :( 2. 26:25 arc, old players have to open those stuff ONE BY ONE, you heard it, ONE BY ONE (omg still can't believe they did that, this opening animation still irritates me) 3. About ER voice, CN is fully voiced, but ER production is during covid, so they kinda get a pass? It can also be a bug 4. HI3 is known to have a TON of bugs(engine was too old, early codes are very janky according to them) 5. should have included 2nd eruption manga because it was too good to pass on. 6. missed on some star rail HI3 homages, but that's too much work. anyways thank you for the video, I imagine this took forever to make, good job on finishing it lol
@@blacksun4268 Yeah, i play the game avidly and even I dont see how anything in chapter 25 made 2nd eruption non-canon. This is literally the only time ive ever heard anyone mention this and ive been in tje community for a long time.
Amazing video, thanks to you I can finally somewhat understand the story of this game(I've been playing for 3 years, and sadly still do). Interested to hear your thoughts on Part 2 story.
uuuuhhhhhhh i play on CN voice and some voiceover issues mentioned in the vid is not there. maybe be a covid thing? switch to CN VA if you dont have a strong reason to stick to JP i guess
my i loved the game in the early stages for it was simple yet it can be complex and feel great to string together different teams and having such good lore as you video showed but MAAAAAAAN after the moon era thing went down hill from how complicated it was to progress, the new enemy types. not new enemies "THE TYPES" from just a simple blue pink orange countering system to neutral quantum system and then the ever so annoying imaginary type and now there a... im not even going to google but trying to fight there latest type of enemy made go from a hack and slash to a system to where if i dont have THIS exactly valkyrie to counter it, i can't beat it.
am i the only one who thinks the affixes are rather unimportant and purely optional they do not impact the character from that high of a degree at least if u are casuall (bad english i know T-T)
while watching this all i could thik was ok ok..."lesbians?....a rather deranged story in my eyes and to much depressing things at thhis point i feel as if im high on lsd or something..lesbiab? ...i can let that slide ishmael and queenpeg were I think...hm vermillion should play limbus company seriously i felt like i was going to pass out with this story
As a warning at a start of video said, I am writing an angry comment! How dare you simplifie lore so complicated you need to read several mangas, visual novel. have a knowledge of quantum physics and degree in philosophy just to know everyting about main story! Btw fire video :DD You summerized it quite well for a almost 2H video.
Only Mei's JP voice was missing (there are rumors to where the VA gave birth or got Covid), her CN voice was still available. Also, Mei's and MEI's names different in Chinese. I think it was Yaoyi and Mai or something, but nevertheless Hoyo got lazy and reused old models or wanted to make similarities between characters so they made the 2 similar, same with Bronya and Prometheus, Himeko and Hua's old captain, Yae Sakura and flamechaser Sakura About Mei and MEI specifically, they were generally based on the same person in GGZ. Mei was based on Raiden Mei, and MEI was based on Raiden Mei's past and Dr. Mei in Era Zero (who's a scientist). In GGZ, Raiden Mei is Dr. Mei in the next life, hence Mei and MEI's similarities despite being 2 completely different persons (and why other characters never noted how similar they are in appearances but in characteristics). This is generally similar to Kiana and Kevin (yes they're of different genders but I'm talking about their characteristics). In GGZ, Kevin was originally male Kiana in a parallel universe (who's also in love with Raiden Mei btw). Later, they reused his character in Era Zero and this is where HI3's Kevin is based on Just want to share a bit of what I found while learning about GGZ through HI3 :>
As former hi3 player, I can point out few wrong things you said but why bother. I am way past that now. Forget that, how did I miss this video for 7 days?
I wouldn't call it a dumpster fire. Well at least towards the end. Part 1 is a solid story, and filled with passion. The newer story part 2 is a bit much, now that they include a lot of things. Overall its a honestly good game, just kinda hard to wrap your head on whats going on half the time.
Advice : Review PGR... My Opinion : From all the Story of Honkai Impact 3 that i have played, what make this game go to it's Downfall is when Part 2 / Mars Story got Realesed... The purpose of this Part 2 / Mars thing is to attract a new players to play this game.... However, this plan did not worked at all... Many veteran players are quit and stop playing this game because Part 2 Story is too complex and not very interesting to play... And every patch they always realese the S Rank valkrye.... And yeah all Part 1 Valkrye got Powercrept so hard by Part 2 Valkrye because they got Astral Ring Combat System... Part 2 have the Open World Map called Lanqiu and yes.. This map is bad than APHO Map... You're forced to explore this map to gain Progress and get Crystal...
“the game downfall is when part 2 released” my brother in Christ vita’s and Songque’s promotional videos ranked first and second respectively on bilibili
Yet it's still very much popular in CN top 1 in bili bili. Part 2 early it's fine but not that better, but after part 2 chapter 3 is the part where's thing gets fun (trust me, everyone loves it after the revelation of chapter 4 and Vita gameplay in 7.8). Gameplay wise, part 1 early char are powercreep bait compared to part 2 where there's less powercreep basically building 1 part 2 char team comp enough to completely clear red lotus abyss (pull whoever you want) Map wise, chapter 5 map is better than APHO in both optimization and visual. About the OW chest thing, isn't it already common tho.....
i played it...the lore is...PEAK especially the manga and ANTI ENTROPY VISUAL NOVEL (ITS PEAK,FUCK OTTO) the gameplay?its good but im not interested because im not playing it for the gameplay because im already tired of fighting in Genshin,in fact,i wanted to skip all the fight i ever encountered,i didn't even want to do that abyss like torture,i had enough with Genshin,i don't want to do it a second time,i have no regret,i spent 10 hours reading Anti Entropy Visual Novel(its peak,FUCK OTTO,FUCK OTTO,FUCK YOU) anyway,all i can say is,its PEAK,go play it,read it,FUCK OTTO
Unfortunately for a lot of ppl nowadays, all of this requires that u know how to read and understand. Like even in thos vid, there were a number of things that were a bit miss-explained or skipped. Like what Hare actually is (she's an idea) and what she was doing (setting th groundwork for project stigma), or that prometheus was only responsible for forcing the same herrschers as the PE to appear instead of random ones, and the ability to let Herrschers act on their own was Elysia's doing
I really wish this game would just give me pre build characters to play through story like in zzz. I just couldn't get into Rpg mechanics like hoyo's other offerings.
Once you get to the Sea of Quanta arc, they do - until then you can brute force the story with the free Herrscher of the Void they give out on Day 2 login.
While HI3 doesn’t have “resinless behavior” what it has instead is: “why can’t i clear ANY of the content for my level?? oh, that’s because all of my supports and the one DPS i have fully invested in has been power crept…. ok.”
this is personal experience. i have HOHE with weapon & 1 stigma and fu hua’s ultra phoenix battlesuit (don’t recall the name) and 2 stigma but still can’t clear anything it shoves at me because i decided to go past level 80 for the rewards and now i can’t clear any content designed for 80+ captains
You went past 80 way too early. All I had was HoHE with full gear, combined with the stuff u can farm, that was enough to do everything at 80. I waited until I had 3 of the part 2 valks (Sena, Lantern and Songque). It took a long time as f2p, but since I waited I can actually clear stuff to get the rewards.
i disagree with quite a few things but than again, alot of the lore is very poorly explained and hard to read without loosing interest and the hook that made you want to have interest in the story, that is if you didnt dive into wiki's subreddits, discord forums, breakdown videos on every single thing as the chapters are releasing confused in between each chapter waiting for an explanation so you dig in whatever information you can find from sources, i feel like even tho its advertized as a story for everyone its not too good at that and some people would not develop the same amount of obsession and attachment that i did and others in the fandom... when you play through it all in one go you will feel like each new form is unearned but for players who have been playing as chapters were releasing, a 6 year where the herrscher of finality is hyped up as THE most powerful being in that universe and 2 years of waiting for kiana to reach a new character arc, it felt pretty earned, i think you shouldnt look at it as an upgrade to flamescion, but as a conclusion to her first form, the silly arrogant kiana at the start is the one being upgraded after all she went through, friends she lost, betrayes she went through, self hate she endured, all the suffering, the cries and the battles she faced, after everything, she is still herself... this was her story, and this was her bitter but sweet ending
Oh lol Many people have no idea of how even main story Valkyries being "lesbian" aren't even true (people assuming these by comparing Honkai Impact to stuffs in Honkai Gakuen/GGZ that have even more niche audiences, though there's a lot of lolicon stuffs by now, Idk how that's) At most they're bi lol, it's just that a lot of the cues are from limited time events that most of newer players that jumped in after Genshin X Honkai collabs aren't able to accessing most of the time-limited events, the events' reruns are very rare too unfortunately, though the archives are all over there with dates of them aired, older players are either from CN, some of JP and for English-speaking ones from SEA Server
The Hi3rd manga fully and unambiguously confirms that several of the characters are lesbian, and it is in fact an essential design principle of the game that no playable female character shows any romantic attraction to a man. Previous attempts to do this has fully lead to death threats, assasination attempts, and lawsuits against the creative team at Hoyo. They are just lesbians bestie it’s not even a progressive thing it’s an incel thing.
Good video man, i really wish this game wasn't so much meta focused and so stingy in some things considering how it's a PvP gacha game, but it is what it is
i cant believe this was posted a month ago, the review was very outdated where its not even relevant anymore after the Part 2 changes. Love the effort but this video was helpful 2 years ago
last part of the vid is why i stopped playing. thank you so much for catching me up on the story. i love love love this game but it more of a pain to play and at the end of the day pointless to raise use characters because they are of no value to the story
"genetically engineered combat lesbians"... is there a better promo line for a game? Not really a fan of HI3 too much lore for me. But it is easy for the eyes :D from time to time.
Crazy Ex-HI3rd players can y'all now move on from the game and stop beaching and 💩 about it everyday just because y'all can't move on. Seriously the game is living rent free on your heads that you keep on 💩 about it any chance you get.
I tried playing HI3 at some point but it just felt so clunky. Glad I sat through a recap of the story cause I wanted to know what's up but it didn't exactly spark much joy hearing any of it. Thanks for the video!
The start is slow, but it picks up around Chapter 5, and hits its stride for Chapter 9's _Final Lesson_ , which is a major turning point. The story and characterization are both great, and the endgame modes give challenges. A fair amount of support battlesuits can be unlocked for free, and the gacha has no 50/50 to lose. It's also fairly generous on crystals, materials, and other resources. They even give away free S-rank battlesuits and gear from time to time. Any physical merch, usually around the anniversary (artbook, sometimes statues). And current battlesuits play completely differently from the old ones. It's like, "is this even the same game?!"
I like how ppl say "hi3 is dead" and "no one cares abt that game" but in reality, it is very popular in china and is only a bit of an underground game in the west. Its mostly due to the fact of how old it is and the massive lore dumps that can be a bit too much but over all, it is a very beloved game but it isnt seen too well
Hi3 is dead because hoyo make a lot of bad thing in end of part 1,like retcon and non canon manga
@@pachilousickan5880its not dead WDYM?
Its still played alot .
I feel like it being old is a factor for sure.. But bc of the first fiew chapters it makes people not like it.
They need to make it actually new player friendly.
Make the map less a chapter but rather a map.
Instead of choosing chapters.
Make it a semi open world.
And make the story actually progressive.
@@CloudFormore its also very popular in jp and sea and tw, basically every region outside of the west, where even then its still being played, just not as much
@@BlueCHMA its basically a niche game, like probably around 30-50k daily which is still respectable.
As a HI3 lover, I commend you for condensing 42 chapters of insanity into a 1 hour and 49 minute video
@@captainplayshonkai7768 tho he still missed out on a few things and miss-explained some stuff, like prometheus' role in the WoH, she was there to influence its intentions and force the same herrschers as the PE to appear so similar countermeasures could be used, allowing the herrschers to act freely was Elysia.
Also missed that Hare is an Idea, and the reason she had not appeared til now was that she was setting the groundwork for project stigma.
Also Seele was transported to the moon as ppl with stigmata or were specifically chosen to be placed on the moon temporarily as project stigma did its shit on Earth, seele was just one of the first to get there.
Its nice that he caught on to Mei being the HoO was linked to her interactions with the FCs tho, a number of ppl thought jt was unearned, completely forgetting about the the FC signets
@@garethcf1016 This just showing how much crap is in this story lol
@@captainplayshonkai7768 nah bruh you are just illiterate pfp checks out. Just like the rest of the crap that comes out of kiamei fandom.
@@captainplayshonkai7768 The 💩 is this 1 hour and 49 mins video. He skipped a lot of things.
You are probably one of those crazy Ex-HI3rd players. I only started playing this game 1 month ago.. Turns out the mentality you all ex-players have is the same with the Ex-genshin players. 💩💩 On the game because you can't move on.
this game is pretty cool and chill when there’s no people screaming in your ears that its bad and dead
Concluding this game is hoyoverse greatest dumpster fire in a 1 hour and 49 minutes video is stupid because I myself took 2 MONTHS to play the story (excluded side stories, events, chronicles and many more)
I've known this game since 2021 but I only got a chance to play it in 2023. Before playing I've watched numerous lore videos, gameplay videos and official animated shorts to have basic understandings about the game
Agreed
real
Just ignore them and enjoy it
Those people are just gatekeeping it for new players
Ah yes its totally not the 12 yo girls being sexualised 🤢 I guess that just doesnt bother... People like yall 💀💀💀
Because game dead after retcon in 25 chapter
The reason Void Archives decided to take Otto's personality wasn't a decision. It was stuck in Otto's body for 500 years as it was Otto's personal weapon. In that time it just adopted a lot of his manerisms and personality traits. Even Void Archives hates that about itself
_HI3_ is my favourite of Mihoyo's games, but then I love the combat and how insane some of the battlesuits are. I quite enjoy the fact I don't have to farm for stigmata, and the story and characterization are just so good. I can forgive the over-detailed world building because it's so fascinating, although I do wish they would keep it at a simpler level. Not every player has a PhD in Quantum Mechanics, and even if we did, we wouldn't expect to have to apply it to _playing a goddamned video game_ .
That said, I love the characters, and I have to say I think that that's the strongest part of the game: Those Captains who have been playing from the start spent roughly six years with Kiana, Bronya, Mei and the others, with the story allowing us to get to know them quite intimately. We've been with them through their lowest lows (literally each has been ready to off themselves at once time or another) and their highest highs. Even if we have been playing for less time, we know these girls quite well because of how the story follows them. Can't say the same for _Genshin_ or _HSR_ because as soon as we go to a new region, we leave the locals behind. I think that's where the other games storytelling falls behind. Sure, _HSR_ has the Express crew, but that's all who are consistent. At least Trailblazer has a stronger personality than Traveler. And at least _ZZZ_ seems to more closely follow Wise and Belle. When we stay with the characters for a long time, it makes them feel more human.
Dealing with a mostly new cast in Part 2 does give new possibilities. A lot of people complain about moving away from the cast we have grown to know so well, yet we also have the chance to get to know a new cast. At the same time, it's been made clear we're not moving away from the Part 1 crew entirely either, as they're also coming back. That includes Kiana and Mei getting the Astral Ring system (although nothing has been said about Bronya, probably she will too. Astral Ring was based on the same system from APHO).
As long as things are handled well, I will continue to play _HI3_ . It's the least likely for me to drop if I need to make space on my computer. _Genshin_ is the most likely. I can't say the slower combat isn't a factor.
HI3rd story desperately needed editors at some points. Reduce the fluff and especially the repetition of sometimes explaining the same thing over and over again with different metaphors.
I’m going to be dropping HI3rd after this Battle Pass is over, for 2 reasons:
1) They completely discarded Co-Op for no apparent reason, replacing it with a completely different single-player mode, and now I can’t play with friends
2) I’m spending all my free time playing catch-up with HI3rd and HSR every time a new update drops, leaving me with no free time to do anything else
I still love HI3rd’s combat and story, and I’ll definitely be back for the HI3xHSR Collab, but I need to make time to do other things.
@@Ac3ofDr4gons we are all limited by time especially if playing multiple gachas. I'm handling 4 at the same time currently including HI3
@@prastagus3 That’s true. I’m sad to have to drop HI3rd, but irl is more important, and there’s only so much time available in the day outside of work/school and sleeping.
May you quickly get what you’re pulling for in all your gachas, and may RNGeesus smile upon you.
@@Ac3ofDr4gons for co-op - it was bugged, and needed very good Internet connection leaving you sometimes on 4th stage because guy disconnected. And it was needed to upgrade DKs(very outdated system and needs rework, to be honest). So it was a QoL change.
“If saving you is a sin, then I’ll be a sinner” got me feeling warm and fuzzy
That line smacks so hard that i had to take weeks off from the game in order to recharge myself
It really is an emotional line without context its good one
With context it destroyed me
you know that line can really fit for any captain who gift there money for the survival of this game too 🤣
If saving you is a sin, then I'll gladly become a sinner*
I got into the Honkai Impact 3rd rabbit hole over a year and honestly as a relatively new player (when compared to some of the veterans who have been playing for years), Honkai Impact 3rd is still *THE BEST* Hoyoverse game I've ever played 🔥. For anyone saying it's too late to start, *believe me it's not.* Quite a few of my friends got into HI3rd a few months back and they're enjoying the hell outta the game and they're F2P. (I also play HSR as well and it's part of the reason why I started HI3rd, I dropped Genshin because of how repetitive and boring it became)
It's very long yes and it definitely takes quite a bit of time to go through the story but that's why I really enjoy it, because of how much effort and care they put into it (along with the fact that I can play the entire story and I don't need to spend a dollar to get past some difficult boss in it). A lot of people fail to realize that if you try and speedrun through the game too fast you're gonna get burnout quickly. *Just play at your own pace.*
Some things the review didn't include (because it was made before Part 2 launched) is this:
- The pity for the banner systems has been improved for the Part 2 characters (90 pulls or less for the character, and you're guaranteed to get the weapon in less than 60 pulls on the weapon banner + you can forge all the new stigmata for free in the foundry) making it more affordable for F2P players. Plus, you can get more useful materials for upgrading your weapons from pulling.
- Memorial Arena now stacks your attempts if you miss a day (you can skip 3 days of the game and have the attempts of all 3 days stacked up when you return)
- The Elysian Realm is getting a simplified version upgrade so it's much faster to clear and less tiresome to clear in the upcoming update.
- There are now vacation tickets that you can use to auto-clear Adventure Tasks, Universal Mirage, and Weekly Quizzes.
- Stigmata > Artifacts; Substat manipulation in Honkai Impact 3rd is honestly so much easier than Genshin grinding (I spent an entire F-ing year trying to get some good middle piece for an artifact set and when it showed up, it was DEF). Once you get the Stigmata in Honkai Impact 3rd, it's yours forever and you can re-roll the sub-stats as much as you please with your gold (a much better offer than Genshin where you mint pick like crazy for several months trying to get a good piece)
Powercreep is still a thing (but literally every gacha game has this problem), but from a new player perspective, it's honestly much more affordable and F2P now for new players trying to catch up with the Part 2 Valks + improved gacha system than it was during Part 1. (Coralie is an insanely good F2P support and the game literally gives her for FREE).
I disagree with the pity banner thing. It's not improved but upgrade to be same like the newer mihoyo games minus 50/50 and 1600 currency. Usually I can get expansion valk at 7 ten pull average, stigmata now is easier to get thou. Weapon still need gacha.
@@kaka09876543210 fortunately, the gacha in HI3rd has much better rates with 1.5% for the chara and 2.5% for the weap as opposed to 0.6% for both in every other hoyo game.
Combined with the fact that theres no 50/50, and usually only 1 new gacha chara per patch (in the times where there were 2 S ranks, they gave u the 2nd one for free), its tbh way easier to go for every chara in this game than any of the other hoyo games
The Elysian Realm change that you mentioned was apparently only a limited-time thing, cause they’ve removed it now.
I do hope it comes back, though. It made completing my weekly Elysian Realm task way easier and faster.
@@kaka09876543210 dont forget that HI3rd has at least double the rates compared to all the other hoyo games (1.5% for chara and 2.4% for weap). Also generally only 1 new S rank per patch (the times there was a 2nd one they gave it for free). Tbh its way easier save up and go for the charas in HI3rd compared to the other games.
@@Ac3ofDr4gons7.8 in Elysian realm let's u skip to 8 floor directly.
Holy moly, this is one well-made video. I've only heard about a couple of bits and aspects of how HI:3rd really is as a game, but sitting down and watching through a condensed, yet still comphrensive summary of the story and some gameplay really tied up all the loose ends I had about this game. It seems amazing, and I can now somewhat understand all the pivotal story moments and references other Hoyo fans make. I only wished I stuck with playing it back in 2018 and experienced it myself, but I guess I have to thank you for playing it so that I didn't have to.
Big ups! 👍
Thank you bro this is the best recap of honkai impact i have ever seen ❤😂❤
"genetically engineered combat lesbians"... As of commenting this I've only seen 19 seconds of this video and hearing you say that already indicates to me that this video is a banger
mei VA actually was not available for the time when they made the elysian realm, which is why she never gor voice acting for that
at the time Elysian Realm was cooked, it was the peak of Covid, that's why..
Aaah i just went trough elysian realm i was wondering why some parts werent voiced
I have long wanted to play HI3 (or at least get a condensed summary of the story) but couldn't stand actually playing the game. I really appreciate the mountain of work you must have done to complete this video for people like me
Hi3 give you trail characters so you can litraly just play story
I always have a vague knowledge of HI3 lore being incredibly convoluted due to its writing and service time of the game. But one thing that is clear is that the writing and lore of this game just screams passion from the team and incorporated almost all of the sci-fi and fantasy concepts that influenced them into one single game. Although, the result being a it way too complex for a large suave of ppl from even approaching this IP, the shadow of lore and gameplay can be seen in all the other games by Hoyo.
HI3 is the love child of Da Wei, CEO of Hoyoverse
@@prastagus3 oh for sure, it is the first time that Da Wei made his vision come true form all the previous game, I played Honkai Gakuen waaay back in the days and seeing everything they have achieve is really something to behold. Even if the game i not making a lot of money for the development cost and company size they will continue to support as long as they can.
the songs of HI3 stands apart from all other Hoyoverse and almost all gacha games.
You skipped Kiana saving Arc City
Raiden Mei VA got Covid in that period of Elysium Realm unfortunately thus no Mei lost her voice for a while until latter parts of Chapter 30 ( I think).
All hail Pink Jesus.
Disagree about getting into HI3 is not worth the time. You can get into it by watching all Part 1 and 1.5 stories online which are the best in any gacha I've played (despite said shortcomings) and start new in Part 2. You can also go back to play Part 1 whenever you like without any need to rush.
21:47 covers Kiana saving Arc City, I skipped the cutscene because I wanted to use that song for the end credits (and also it's not as visually interesting as other HI3 cutscenes, so I cut out large chunks to save time).
That is unfortunate about Mei's VA being unavailable, however Hoyo is a multi- _billion_ dollar company and they _have_ redone older parts of HI3 in the past. They could easily fix the hole in the voice acting.
Have they finally removed the account level 30 requirement for Part 2? Last I checked, they made it even worse than when I first started (I seem to remember being able to skip around to basically any story chapter when I first started after the tutorial ended, but when I made an alt account to try and get some footage I thought I was missing it forced me to play each chapter in sequence with no way to immediately jump into Part 2).
I've been playing HI3 for 6 years and love the story. You are entitled to your views about it so I won't knock your opinion. Just know some love it and some don't.
@@FiragaJJC I mean, he is, but complaining about things that are already a minimal to non-issue due to solutions that the game has already had in place for months prior, to this review yet he did not use or acknowledge them certainly does not help.
For example, he complained about dailies taking too long, completely disregarding the lite button to clear all the mat farming instantly, and they also have it for open world and expeditions too as of a month ago, with the base mat one being in there for over a few years now.
He also complained about having to pull every stigmata, when over 6 months ago, either on the same ver part 2 released or the one right after, they let u craft all the new stigs without needing to pull for em.
Its like he's reviewing a version of the game thats severely outdated.
@@garethcf1016 arguing this logic to a bias person is a waste of time. That's why I didn't go into details.
@@FiragaJJC Tbh tho, if he's doing a review it should be as unbiased as possible. That and it ought to be up to date
@@garethcf1016 I agree.
The thing is, as of this review coming out there has already been a bunch of qol and gacha changes thats been in there for a few months:
1: all the new BiS stigs (the so called artifacts), are craftable for free, tho u do need to clear things like Memorial arena or the event or the story to get mats for, tho those are participation based NOT competitive
2: They updated the gacha system so that pity is 90, BiS stigs no longer use up pity, and as always, theres no 50/50. Also, rates are higher compared to their other games (1.5% for the chara and 2.5% for the weap). And since its generally only 1 new chara per version (if there are 2 they let u obtain the 2nd one for free), its actually easier to go for charas in this game than in their other games.
3: u can lite (auto skip/complete) all the dailies now, including open world, expeditions, tasks, and even memorial arena provided u participated in memorial arena (MA) the week before (then u can just lite it as long as u keep liting it)
Still has the powercreep tho. Tho as always, its only relevant when trying to push into red lotus in abyss (the 2nd highest ranking). Ppl still use old valks and incomplete gear sets up to agony 3, and outside of that, MA gives rewards based on ur participation, not ur score, and they provide u with whatever character to use for everything else. (ER just lets u use any fully built chara u choose even if u dont own em, and story provides u the latest chara at the time)
I play mostly for the story and interesting events, not for higher difficulties in strings. Different reasons to play for different people.
@@prastagus3 yeah essentially, if u stick to those, u dont need to touch the gacha at all, and u still get to use most if not all the valks since they let u use the latest ones at the time in the story, and in ER u get to use all of em that are in there for free
Thanks for the video, Vermilion.
See you with the next HI3 video in a few years when they finish Part 2 and prepare for Part 3! 😁
Gacha on this game is just opcional, is story focus, u dont need to have any character to do the story events etc
Gacha is for collection
Game modes are only for get crystals for gacha and use your waifus
The only thing for what u can use your characters is for grinding and nothing more
Min 9
Bronya is not “just its ok now” there are side story in chronicles game mode, fu hua fenghuang down helps bronya to wake up
Most of first chapters have side storyes on chronicles and manga maybe u got confused bc u ignore that
Kiana (possesed by void) killed 60% of the humanity and destroy most of the planet before himeko stops her
She is the only one herrscher that go outside to destroy the world in this samsara
Thats why most of cites are abandoned
Sa is not comparable to the cocon is 1/10 of it
HoV don't destroy 90% of planet, this was retconed in otto and moon ark. Like end of 2E and fact she is sirin.
A huge issue in the beginning is a new player has no way of knowing when to read which manga or when to play which side story / chronicle or when to play which Visual Novel.
You really need a guide to play the first third or so of the game. Thankfully they get better with not spreading the story content outside the game later on.
@@pachilousickan5880 is easy to miss bc is just one line of text but go back after hov cinematic or so, it sais that hov destory 60% of the humanity in those months
Manga button is on the right side of the screen below chapter but most of ppl ignore that for some reason
been playing the game since 2018, i believe hi3rd truly is the best gacha game ever made, especially for those who took their time to truly understand the lore. It is flawed like most games, but since the announcement of part 2 they started seriously working on making the game better by lowering pity, making stigmata(artifacts) craftable, allowing the players to auto-complete dailies and all the boring tasks, improving the combat even more, making the models look way better during story mode (even relatively older ones), filling the dorm supply with new valkyries, giving a stigmata box every patch and so much more. Despite what some players may say, anyone can enjoy this game f2p no problem, i do.
You did a really good job condensing the story and its problems and I see you did sneakily acknowledge the whole Part 2 situation at the very end.
Can't wait to hear your thoughts on what basically reset account/character/story progress, from what Ive understood.
Surprised no mention of practically needing a guide on what order to play the different game modes for about the first 1/3 (maybe more) of the game. Or how important all the supplementary content, be it mangas, visual nodes or the limited time events you mentioned, are for the (kinda bloated and sprawling) mess of a story the game has. Although you did kinda imply it, but back when I played it I was very confused on the order of things (and the horrible UI & UX), before finding the guide of Hoyostans.
The game does have some really good moments and your video managed to make me tear up from some of the cut scenes and music bringing back memories.
But yeah, not really worth jumping into, a small part of me regrets playing through the game a year or two ago. Don't regret playing the story, but regret the effort it took to play through and experience the story. I guess it would be different if I had played it for years, instead of going through all of it over a few months.
Plot was better if hoy don't retcon a lot of thing in chapter 1 and manga
There was absolutely no reset. Just new chapters(with trial characters) and new characters, meta shifted, but it shifts since HoV+new charas can be more futureproof if Hoyo plays their cards good.
Interesting video. I've been playing HI3 since 2018 largely as a dolphin. Overall this video is pretty great and I very much enjoyed your summation of the story.
While I think experiencing the story over an extended period like I did helps with that feeling of the later parts of the game being "rushed" (If you played in "real-time", it didn't really feel rushed, more like just the final release of build-up), it had the negative side-effect that by the time the later part of the story unfolded I'd literally forgotten some story elements. Your video did a good job refreshing that.
I guess the new player experience is also rough compared to the daily life of a veteran like me. For the most part, my daily experience with the game is very different. At this point, I have all the of the characters and most of them (well, the relevant ones) are geared nicely with a few exceptions. As such, there's no need for me to focus on stuff like Mirage, Co-Op (now removed anyway) are really just about any of the grindy stuff you mentioned. Similarly, playing through Elysian Realm was a much more pleasant experience in "real-time" due to the way the game works.
Overall HI3 is in this weird place but part 2 is finally starting to pick up and get enjoyable.
I'll finish by saying that I think it's unfortunate that your review didn't really outright say that HI3 has, by far, the best animated shorts of any of the Hoyo games 🙂
Still thanks for taking on this epic job.
EDIT: One final thing I forgot. I think the reason some HI3 players, myself included, prefer the Weapon and Stigmata system from HI3 is that, utlimately, it's predictable. You will never have to spend more than a fixed amount to fully gear your character. The RNG bullshit of GI and HSR sounds nice but in reality you can spend fucking months trying to get your characters geared nicely in this games. I think if you're a kid or young adult with lots of "free" time to spend grinding that's fine but for older people like myself with a job but less free-time, the ability to trade a bit of money to skip wasting time on RNG equipment is actually a plus. I think also, someone deep in the HI3 endgame like myself generally is able to gain enough crystals each patch through a combination of the monthly pass and just standard daily/weekly gameplay that getting and gearing the new character each patch is not a usually a big deal. This is helped by the fact that character and equipment rates are far better than in the other Hoyo games, meaning your crystals tend to go a little further even if at the end of the day the weekly earnings between HI3 and HSR are actually fairly comparable (I crunched this out a while back because I was bored because I was initially pretty sure HI3 was more generous but after checking and comparing each game fairly (I.e. Just factoring in a monthly pass + standard daily/weekly earnings) it seems like in reality both games give you pretty much the same number of pulls each week))
I have waited my entire life for a honkai lore deep dive
My opinions about honkai impact is that they have great plot(not all the time)
Old plot better, retcon in chapter 25 kill game
@@pachilousickan5880 stop whining on every single comment lol
i'm still stuck on why hoyo puts some of their best OST as 30 second blurbs in the trailers lolol
no other Hoyoverse games beat songs from HI3 and most Hoyoverse OSTs are better than almost all other gachas' OSTs
I played HI 3rd for a long time, and I still didn't get the story as well as you did. Behind all the grinding, LTE, upgrades, pulls for Herschers, I could never keep up. I really appreciate the amount of work you put into these videos. I like having the option of just getting these games story without having to spend months and months grinding and no-lifing it.
But Hi3rd is the most accessible in terms of not having to pull for characters. You get trial ones for the entire story.
@@confusedowl445 This honestly baffled me when I played through the story. How is Hoyo making money and why are people paying for the gacha, unless they just want to support the devs?
I went though the entire story using trial valks, made more sense to play as the suits from the story as it went along too. Some chapters you were forced to only use trial/story chars, which was also a strange decision from a money point of view.
@@jepeman Hoyo makes money in HI3 through skins and Meta chasers.
@@jepeman great characters, emotional stories that affects the players, dedicated fans, skins, and passion from Da Wei.
Also this passion project likely maintained by profits made by Genshin and other successful games. Why? Because this game made Hoyoverse what it is today.
Without HI3, Mihoyo would fail as a company and never become Hoyoverse.
@@confusedowl445 Yeah but I play a lot of Gacha games to boost and farm mechanics and make my characters powerful, and since the story mode didn't actually improve my characters, and some LTE were impossible if you didn't farm, you either had to split a lot of time doing story stuff that didn't make your team better, or split a lot of time making your team better but missing out on story.
I have the same problem with Genshin and HSR. There is a ton of story but if I just want to play 30m-1hr a day, I cannot keep up with the release schedule
A one hour Codename Vermillion vid? A blessing from the lord!
Sometimes I feel like HoYo should just split into an anime production business and a game making one that bases their games off of the animes. While, I love doing some quests in hoyo games and in genshin and hsr it's relatively easy to keep up, hi3 is just... Confusing. And part 2 didn't make it any better. It was supposed to be a new thing that new players can enjoy, but it ended up being way too similar to the storytelling of part 1 (and although it's not half bad actually, I just don't have the patience to do it, since I still have to finish Elysium Everlasting and Thus Spoke the Apocalypse 😭). Seriously, why are we getting a genshin anime, when what we really need is a hi3 one???
Also, amazing video, I can't believe you managed to fit all of the story that I couldn't complete in 2 years into a
thank you! Really have been wanting to get an overview of honkai impact since I play honkai star rail and you did a really great job at it!
Thank you. It's so hard to find someone on RUclips Who actually analyzes the story in-depht, especially the part near the end about the overexplenation of things and overly intricate world Building which Adds almost NOTHING to the story. To me It felt like some writer was Just really proud of the things he came up so they had to shove It in your face every few minutes. I like how much personal hi3 story felt but I really prefer Genshin 's worldbuilding
I dont get the elysian realm take(gameplay), it’s rather a mostly skill related and tactic related mode. So you need the correct buffs, the correct play styles and so on, the only thing janky about it is that the pre-buffs are catered to the newer characters, but that doesn’t mean there’re no work arounds because there’re other buffs such as “use 2 different types of supports to gain _ % physical dmg/elemental dmg”. Elysia WOULD do incredible well in her weather, and the weather being the cycle in which the pre-buffs work best on different characters. Old or new.
Nah, it's only gotten worse with Part 2 characters. Ever since I got Coralie maxed out (which was easy since they gave out her weapon and maxed stigs for free), I can brute force 2.5x difficulty on basically any weather, while any Part 1 valkyries have to have appropriate weather to even approach 2x difficulty. Meanwhile, Sim/Divergent Universe can still be easily cleared with 1.X units, because buff synergies get so crazy people can have stuff like a Herta who does 2-3 million damage every time she spins.
As long as it has a timer for the boss fights, Elysian Realm will forever be a glorified DPS check and continue to have this flaw.
@@CDVermilion you're mistaken somehow. I picked Mobius(5.2 character, powercreeped in 5.8), and finished 2.5 difficulty with Kevin as final boss in 07:43. Realm is very easy if you know what you are doing and character is full built.
After playing the game it's really refreshing to watch this recap as it can explain some things I missed or couldn't catch on.
Thank you for the plot summary.
Thanks for the video, this is remind me back that Honkai Impact 3rd is the best gacha game I ever playing
After playing HSR & Genshin I thought I’d give Hi3 a shot.
All I can say is that I regret not giving this game a shot years earlier when I still thought that mobile games aren’t worth playing. The only thing that I dislike is that I’ll never be able to get Asuka from the Eva collab :/
Easily my fav Hoyoverse game.
Finally not a meme on community post
Wrong
You played honkai impact 3rd so us captains can welcome you to this weird but wonderful game with waifus and men as hot as them
I'm so excited for the new Version! 😊
But Idk if I should for Vita or the second equipment for HoFi Kiana. It's a tough decision for me, welp but I have time to think about it.
Anyway, like some or many said the story will get stronger and better the more u play. I love this game, but it's ok if others don't like it. Everyone has their own opinion and I respect that👍
Good luck with Part 2, you're gonna need it
I almost forgot about it Ty for bring it up
Part 2 better that end of 1 part.
@@pachilousickan5880 well the end of part 1 isnt really a high ceiling to beat
To be fair, you cant call superstring or memorial arena busywork. They are the endgame modes you pull characters for, the only difference is you get a few stages every week instead of all the stages at once every month. The gear being gacha only isnt as bad as it sounds. With saving and proper planning you can guarantee a full bis set as opposed to farming relics/artifacts for months on end just to have a chance at decent gear that will probably roll everything into flat defense. Whales already spend currency every day on max refresh for gear in HSR/Genshin, and for f2p you just have to account for the gear when planning your pulls.
You are the very first youtuber I have ever seen to talk bad about this game. Even the most hardcore HSR, Genshin impact, And many other gacha players played this game and said about how good this game is, combat, design, story. I bet you didn't even read the storyline and skipped all of it.
For those who are saying that the part 2 is really bad then I'd like to remind you that we are only in chapter 4 right now. Even in part 1 most of the players didn't find that good until " Herrscher of the void " came around and I am also one of them. After that all of the Story, CG, Animations are at peak.
@@Desirous-person-of-mind Well, it didnt seem like he skipped everything tho it definitely seems like it was kinda rushed and probably went in with a bit of bias. But he does, kinda lightly, go thru the story.
Either way, based on the complaints on the dailies and open world stuff, and the stigma system, it seems they released a review on a version of the game that has been outdated for at least 6 months, honestly seems a lil unprofessional but hey, im not the reviewer
Your ending commtar was the best😂
Simplemente god, buenísimo vídeo pa
Lord allmighty of all that is anime, this was long!
And through all of the high-value production editing, clever jokes, hilarious, layered phrasing and genuinely intriguing way that this guy explains stuff that may or may not turn your brain into mush, I'm thankful for the experience. This was, without a doubt, the return of the God of overexplaining stuff in a simplifyed manner. Posts may take almost as long as every quarter-of-a-year or so, but once it happens, you just know you're in for a treat, in the form of words that cause effects similar to weed. I really hope he sticks around.
I agree with you on a few points pertaining to the story and the handling of lore. In fact, I think a lot of what follows Thus Spoke Apocalypse is pretty bad, the exceptions being the second half of part 1.5 (the Phosphoros arc) and part 2 from the end of chapter 3 onward. There are cool moments sprinkled everywhere, but prior to Phosphoros, I had been complaining every patch about the quality of the story. I've done the same since part 2 started until literally this patch too. Nevertheless, I still believe Honkai is generally unmatched by any miHoYo game with the exception of Guns Girl Z, which is the true narrative goat. Gameplay- and gacha-wise it's definitely the top dog in my eyes.
I won't go over your opinion over HI3, it's your opinion after all, but your comparison with HSR is just dumb. You first added the things you need to do every week in HI3, but for Star Rail you said I simply log-in, auto play, and get my rewards. You forgot Simulated/Divergent Universe, Apocalyptic Shadow, Forgotten Hall, Pure Fiction, those take quite a lot of time on their own. Then you mentioned the events in HI3 as if HSR doesn't have events as well. Moreover, in HI3 once you open a character they are done, ready to go, getting level up materials is cheap and easy. In HSR, once you get a character you need to go in an absurd grind in Stagnant Shadow to level a character up, an absurd grind of Callyx to get their Trace materials and after than an absurd grind to get their Relics from Cavern of Corrosion using a disgusting RNG. HSR does NOT respect a player's time at all, it's infinite times more grind and time consuming than HI3.
All of the grinding to spec out a character in HSR is taken care of by daily grind: select appropriate location (stagnant shadow/calyx etc) and set team to auto. I can do all of it on my phone while I'm doing _literally anything else_ . You also basically never have to do farming when a character comes out if you prefarm (unless it's one of the rare instances of a character being released at the same time as their farming locations).
Sim Universe weekly grind is a joke compared to Elysian Realm weekly grind because of Divergent Universe, not to mention the fact that Sim Universe has always been _cumulative_ as opposed to high-score based. Now with DU, I do a single run (often times with all combat on auto because it's stupid easy), and then claim my weekly stuff and leave.
Other modes like Pure Fiction, MoC, and Apocalyptic Shadow are endgame content and only have to be done once every month or so, and are actually interesting so I don't consider it a part of daily/weekly upkeep. I suppose the closest HI3 equivalent would be Memorial Arena, but once again power creep has rendered it completely uninteresting because you can just brute force one SSS boss per week and then do LITE for everything else the following weeks.
HI3 handles events the worse out of any Hoyo game because they *force* you to play them daily for max rewards, while in _literally any other Hoyo game_ you can binge all of it the day before they end within a few hours and be done with it.
First, "I can do all of it on my phone while I'm doing literally anything else" is not an argument. You still have to restart the grind often, you still have to pay attention and invest literal hours to it. How can you prefarm if you are already farming for previous characters? I guess you prefarm when the callyx for new characters doesn't even exist someway.
Elysian Realm grind is a joke compared to Divergent Universe because it's way faster. As someone who plays both games, ER is much faster than DU ever was. Just the time you spend in the shop in DU to upgrade your blessings and overwrite equations/blessings takes as much time as an entire ER run.
I do MoC, Pure Fiction and Apocalyptic Shadow on auto up to a certain point, similar to the LITE of MA.
Events last more than 30-40 days, you only need to do the daily 5-6 times to get all their rewards. How is that a "requirement to log daily"? Did you play any events?
Elysian realm getting update in 7.8 u can literally skip to floor 8@@vilinaty
@@CDVermilion you are full of 💩. you are just trying to farming views for your 💩 channel.
@@vilinaty dont argue with this fkin idiot, i cant believe this idiot says grinding in HSR is easier than grinding in hi3, even some fkin genshin player knows its easier to raise your character in hi3 than all other hoyo games
The thing that cocolia is bronyas mother is half true her biological parents was Alexandra zaychik and alexey zaychik, fun fact cocolia(matushka) knew bronyas father pretty well before he died and Alexandra died when she gave birth to bronya or close after at least because in chapter 27 or 28 we got to know that misteln shariac(apologize for my spelling) knew bronyas mother and was there when she died.
The game is still going, and the story also has its ups and downs, especially part 2, and the new chapter still gives us that HI3 story telling. The only thing that I don't like is how they make it more open, unlike previous chapter-based. While I don't mind if it's open, the world feels empty instead of giving us some activity, like yakuza games, where you get to do a fun repetitive activity no matter how small they are.
The release for the character feels burdensome, especially if you're F2P with bad luck. While we can craft the stigmata for the released character now, it feels nothing changes when they give us stigmata instead of a weapon in its banner, and we need to reach pity for that (my bad luck at its finest) and how the powercreep happens more often than the previous one with all that back-to-back banner change.
Right now, the only thing that keeps me going is their event. I hope that they will bring back Captainverse.
Whenever I play a Guardian in PoE, I always refer to the Sentinel of Radiance as Senti-chan.
dude good job on making such a long but a fun video hope u can try wuwa next
Hi3 is the least gacha I've played time wise but it hit deepest in my soul, may all the beauty be bless
1. HI3 translation was very bad, especially english, jp not that much but still bad from what I have heard(I am CN player so I know)
but star rail english translation was pretty well localized :(
2. 26:25 arc, old players have to open those stuff ONE BY ONE, you heard it, ONE BY ONE (omg still can't believe they did that, this opening animation still irritates me)
3. About ER voice, CN is fully voiced, but ER production is during covid, so they kinda get a pass? It can also be a bug
4. HI3 is known to have a TON of bugs(engine was too old, early codes are very janky according to them)
5. should have included 2nd eruption manga because it was too good to pass on.
6. missed on some star rail HI3 homages, but that's too much work.
anyways thank you for the video, I imagine this took forever to make, good job on finishing it lol
2E manga not canon because 25 chapter happening
why it is not canon? can you elaborate? iirc they only retconned connections to ggz
@@blacksun4268 Yeah, i play the game avidly and even I dont see how anything in chapter 25 made 2nd eruption non-canon. This is literally the only time ive ever heard anyone mention this and ive been in tje community for a long time.
Thank you for this video. I always wanted to know what's going on in HI3rd but could never keep myself playing to find out for some reason.
Amazing video, thanks to you I can finally somewhat understand the story of this game(I've been playing for 3 years, and sadly still do). Interested to hear your thoughts on Part 2 story.
15:45 ah yes, lets prepare an execution stand for Hoyo, just in case.
We are definitely not threatening them. 😊
bro looks like captain lmaooo
uuuuhhhhhhh i play on CN voice and some voiceover issues mentioned in the vid is not there. maybe be a covid thing?
switch to CN VA if you dont have a strong reason to stick to JP i guess
my i loved the game in the early stages for it was simple yet it can be complex and feel great to string together different teams and having such good lore as you video showed but MAAAAAAAN after the moon era thing went down hill from how complicated it was to progress, the new enemy types. not new enemies "THE TYPES" from just a simple blue pink orange countering system to neutral quantum system and then the ever so annoying imaginary type and now there a... im not even going to google but trying to fight there latest type of enemy made go from a hack and slash to a system to where if i dont have THIS exactly valkyrie to counter it, i can't beat it.
am i the only one who thinks the affixes are rather unimportant and purely optional they do not impact the character from that high of a degree at least if u are casuall (bad english i know T-T)
Yeah, The add is neglible but important to memorial arena as adding score for ranking. If you like shiny number affix is your friend otherwise meh
@@kaka09876543210 and MA rewards mostly come from just participating anyway
while watching this all i could thik was ok ok..."lesbians?....a rather deranged story in my eyes and to much depressing things at thhis point i feel as if im high on lsd or something..lesbiab? ...i can let that slide ishmael and queenpeg were I think...hm vermillion should play limbus company seriously i felt like i was going to pass out with this story
Old plot is great, new 25 chapter lore is bad
As a warning at a start of video said, I am writing an angry comment! How dare you simplifie lore so complicated you need to read several mangas, visual novel. have a knowledge of quantum physics and degree in philosophy just to know everyting about main story! Btw fire video :DD You summerized it quite well for a almost 2H video.
Hi3 is the definition of doomed yuiri and live for that
>"doomed yuri"
>looks inside
>all MC yuri ships work out in the end (KiaMei and BronSeele)
???
Thanks for playing this so I don’t have to.
Why not recommending ?
Saw a video the other day about welt being in the astral express
Only Mei's JP voice was missing (there are rumors to where the VA gave birth or got Covid), her CN voice was still available. Also, Mei's and MEI's names different in Chinese. I think it was Yaoyi and Mai or something, but nevertheless Hoyo got lazy and reused old models or wanted to make similarities between characters so they made the 2 similar, same with Bronya and Prometheus, Himeko and Hua's old captain, Yae Sakura and flamechaser Sakura
About Mei and MEI specifically, they were generally based on the same person in GGZ. Mei was based on Raiden Mei, and MEI was based on Raiden Mei's past and Dr. Mei in Era Zero (who's a scientist). In GGZ, Raiden Mei is Dr. Mei in the next life, hence Mei and MEI's similarities despite being 2 completely different persons (and why other characters never noted how similar they are in appearances but in characteristics). This is generally similar to Kiana and Kevin (yes they're of different genders but I'm talking about their characteristics). In GGZ, Kevin was originally male Kiana in a parallel universe (who's also in love with Raiden Mei btw). Later, they reused his character in Era Zero and this is where HI3's Kevin is based on
Just want to share a bit of what I found while learning about GGZ through HI3 :>
Oooof 1 hour vid 🤣 nice movie VERMILION
Otto best character in all game/anime. You didnt give him justice
nah, otto is overrated.
@@CDVermilion true
My man actually sacrificed himself for us, what a hero.
Ps: your editing is amazing!
As former hi3 player, I can point out few wrong things you said but why bother. I am way past that now. Forget that, how did I miss this video for 7 days?
I wouldn't call it a dumpster fire. Well at least towards the end. Part 1 is a solid story, and filled with passion. The newer story part 2 is a bit much, now that they include a lot of things. Overall its a honestly good game, just kinda hard to wrap your head on whats going on half the time.
1:39:16 bro sneak in Symphogear reference and thought people would not notice
Quite the trip, this game.
Advice : Review PGR...
My Opinion : From all the Story of Honkai Impact 3 that i have played, what make this game go to it's Downfall is when Part 2 / Mars Story got Realesed...
The purpose of this Part 2 / Mars thing is to attract a new players to play this game....
However, this plan did not worked at all... Many veteran players are quit and stop playing this game because Part 2 Story is too complex and not very interesting to play... And every patch they always realese the S Rank valkrye....
And yeah all Part 1 Valkrye got Powercrept so hard by Part 2 Valkrye because they got Astral Ring Combat System...
Part 2 have the Open World Map called Lanqiu and yes.. This map is bad than APHO Map... You're forced to explore this map to gain Progress and get Crystal...
Also there is barely any optimization to that map at all, shit was eating my ram alive
“the game downfall is when part 2 released” my brother in Christ vita’s and Songque’s promotional videos ranked first and second respectively on bilibili
Yet it's still very much popular in CN top 1 in bili bili. Part 2 early it's fine but not that better, but after part 2 chapter 3 is the part where's thing gets fun (trust me, everyone loves it after the revelation of chapter 4 and Vita gameplay in 7.8).
Gameplay wise, part 1 early char are powercreep bait compared to part 2 where there's less powercreep basically building 1 part 2 char team comp enough to completely clear red lotus abyss (pull whoever you want)
Map wise, chapter 5 map is better than APHO in both optimization and visual. About the OW chest thing, isn't it already common tho.....
@@Yssring_Leavtruth They're starting to give Astral Ring to Part 1 battlesuits as well.
Pgr china copy of honkai lol
But hi3 was a bad after retcon in plot, new plot in 25 chapter is shit
i played it...the lore is...PEAK
especially the manga and ANTI ENTROPY VISUAL NOVEL (ITS PEAK,FUCK OTTO)
the gameplay?its good but im not interested because im not playing it for the gameplay because im already tired of fighting in Genshin,in fact,i wanted to skip all the fight i ever encountered,i didn't even want to do that abyss like torture,i had enough with Genshin,i don't want to do it a second time,i have no regret,i spent 10 hours reading Anti Entropy Visual Novel(its peak,FUCK OTTO,FUCK OTTO,FUCK YOU)
anyway,all i can say is,its PEAK,go play it,read it,FUCK OTTO
additional note : FUCK OTTO
Unfortunately for a lot of ppl nowadays, all of this requires that u know how to read and understand. Like even in thos vid, there were a number of things that were a bit miss-explained or skipped. Like what Hare actually is (she's an idea) and what she was doing (setting th groundwork for project stigma), or that prometheus was only responsible for forcing the same herrschers as the PE to appear instead of random ones, and the ability to let Herrschers act on their own was Elysia's doing
I really wish this game would just give me pre build characters to play through story like in zzz. I just couldn't get into Rpg mechanics like hoyo's other offerings.
But it actually does give you give you that
Once you get to the Sea of Quanta arc, they do - until then you can brute force the story with the free Herrscher of the Void they give out on Day 2 login.
@@quanduong2754 hah, do they now, I didn't notice
@@CDVermilion Ohh, she is so not fun to play though..... Maybe I'm just way to spoiled with characters tht feel, play and control like super soldiers
While HI3 doesn’t have “resinless behavior” what it has instead is: “why can’t i clear ANY of the content for my level?? oh, that’s because all of my supports and the one DPS i have fully invested in has been power crept…. ok.”
this is personal experience. i have HOHE with weapon & 1 stigma and fu hua’s ultra phoenix battlesuit (don’t recall the name) and 2 stigma but still can’t clear anything it shoves at me because i decided to go past level 80 for the rewards and now i can’t clear any content designed for 80+ captains
You went past 80 way too early. All I had was HoHE with full gear, combined with the stuff u can farm, that was enough to do everything at 80. I waited until I had 3 of the part 2 valks (Sena, Lantern and Songque). It took a long time as f2p, but since I waited I can actually clear stuff to get the rewards.
Elysian Realm was the best part
its not review, its story summary
Bro did NOT watch the full video
i disagree with quite a few things but than again, alot of the lore is very poorly explained and hard to read without loosing interest and the hook that made you want to have interest in the story, that is if you didnt dive into wiki's subreddits, discord forums, breakdown videos on every single thing as the chapters are releasing confused in between each chapter waiting for an explanation so you dig in whatever information you can find from sources, i feel like even tho its advertized as a story for everyone its not too good at that and some people would not develop the same amount of obsession and attachment that i did and others in the fandom...
when you play through it all in one go you will feel like each new form is unearned but for players who have been playing as chapters were releasing, a 6 year where the herrscher of finality is hyped up as THE most powerful being in that universe and 2 years of waiting for kiana to reach a new character arc, it felt pretty earned, i think you shouldnt look at it as an upgrade to flamescion, but as a conclusion to her first form, the silly arrogant kiana at the start is the one being upgraded after all she went through, friends she lost, betrayes she went through, self hate she endured, all the suffering, the cries and the battles she faced, after everything, she is still herself... this was her story, and this was her bitter but sweet ending
I need to finish this game, I’m no t gonna play the second part tho
Early chapter is pain 😂
Oh lol
Many people have no idea of how even main story Valkyries being "lesbian" aren't even true (people assuming these by comparing Honkai Impact to stuffs in Honkai Gakuen/GGZ that have even more niche audiences, though there's a lot of lolicon stuffs by now, Idk how that's)
At most they're bi lol, it's just that a lot of the cues are from limited time events that most of newer players that jumped in after Genshin X Honkai collabs aren't able to accessing most of the time-limited events, the events' reruns are very rare too unfortunately, though the archives are all over there with dates of them aired, older players are either from CN, some of JP and for English-speaking ones from SEA Server
What's going on, may I know the context for bringing this up?
The Hi3rd manga fully and unambiguously confirms that several of the characters are lesbian, and it is in fact an essential design principle of the game that no playable female character shows any romantic attraction to a man. Previous attempts to do this has fully lead to death threats, assasination attempts, and lawsuits against the creative team at Hoyo. They are just lesbians bestie it’s not even a progressive thing it’s an incel thing.
@@jofromthethingtell him !
"Gay people? In my game? No way!"
how to spot a straight guy playing a hoyo game:
Good video man, i really wish this game wasn't so much meta focused and so stingy in some things considering how it's a PvP gacha game, but it is what it is
You don't need to unless your a meta slave super string and things
Pvp????
There is no PvP in _HI3_ . Never was, unless you count the leaderboards in the endgame modes.
@@BNuts think he meant the leaderboards
Leaderboards is not taken seriously just the rewards
Sin mal banner when? 🗿
i cant believe this was posted a month ago, the review was very outdated where its not even relevant anymore after the Part 2 changes. Love the effort but this video was helpful 2 years ago
dated, terrible ui and menus, clunky combat, so much yapping ive even got tierd of constantly needed to hit the skip button
Game, graphic and story are great but i hate cn community for hating male characters
last part of the vid is why i stopped playing. thank you so much for catching me up on the story. i love love love this game but it more of a pain to play and at the end of the day pointless to raise use characters because they are of no value to the story
It is a great game.if you are not enjoying it,why play😂😂😂😂
Retcon kill game and plot, that's obviously
@pachilousickan5880 what was retcon
@@pachilousickan5880 crazy Ex-HI3rd player that can't move on from the game. Y'all are just as 🥜 as the Ex-Genshin players.
Where's part 2?
I think the end of the video should answer your question ;)
missing voice line i never heard it happen to other version except for steam HI3 version and it also buggy
I played on the standalone PC version bc afaik the Steam version doesn't let you login with your Hoyo account for some reason
Kevin
"genetically engineered combat lesbians"... is there a better promo line for a game?
Not really a fan of HI3 too much lore for me. But it is easy for the eyes :D from time to time.
Good to know I'm not the only one who dislikes playing Part 2
Literally almost everyone does (which idk how, it's still good)
I love part 2 😅
@@nyes4596there’s a lot of CN players who liked it fym by everyone
Most of oldfag don't like play in chapter 1 after HoS ark
Crazy Ex-HI3rd players can y'all now move on from the game and stop beaching and 💩 about it everyday just because y'all can't move on. Seriously the game is living rent free on your heads that you keep on 💩 about it any chance you get.
Himeko no 🥲
Intro song name??
1:07:01 what song is this?
"Ancient AI" from the Strike Suit Zero OST
all music used is listed in the end credits :)
this game would've been better if it wasn't a gacha game.
I tried playing HI3 at some point but it just felt so clunky. Glad I sat through a recap of the story cause I wanted to know what's up but it didn't exactly spark much joy hearing any of it. Thanks for the video!
The start is slow, but it picks up around Chapter 5, and hits its stride for Chapter 9's _Final Lesson_ , which is a major turning point. The story and characterization are both great, and the endgame modes give challenges. A fair amount of support battlesuits can be unlocked for free, and the gacha has no 50/50 to lose. It's also fairly generous on crystals, materials, and other resources. They even give away free S-rank battlesuits and gear from time to time. Any physical merch, usually around the anniversary (artbook, sometimes statues). And current battlesuits play completely differently from the old ones. It's like, "is this even the same game?!"
New story is trash, retcon 25 chapter kill game
1:21:49 WTF!?!?!?💀