How to Install a Basement Laundry | Ask This Old House
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Ask This Old House plumbing and heating expert Richard Trethewey helps a homeowner install a washer and dryer in his basement. (See below for a shopping list, tools, and steps.)
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Steps for How to Install a Basement Laundry:
1. To install the dryer vent, use a small drill bit to drill through the side of the wall of the house. Pick a spot that’s near the base of the home and free from obstructions.
2. With the small hole as a guide, use a 2 1/2-inch hole saw to saw through the house siding and into the basement.
3. Place a bead of caulk around the dryer vent where it connects to the building. Then screw in the vent using a driver.
4. Connect the flexible metal dryer vent tubing to the dryer vent using zip screws and a driver.
5. Use an elbow fitting to connect the dryer vent tubing to the back of the dryer.
6. Connect the dryer vent tubing to the back of the dryer using a hose clamp.
7. Plug the dryer into a 240-volt receptacle.
8. Next, to connect the washtub and water pump, use a reciprocating saw to cut out a piece of old galvanized pipe.
9. Replace the pipe section with a PVC Y-fitting and connect it to the old galvanized pipe using a rubber coupling.
10. Ensure the water supply is off, then, using a copper-pipe cutter, cut the existing hot and cold water lines.
11. Replace copper pipe connections with copper pipe T-fittings.
12. Then connect new copper pipes to T-fittings that will lead to the washer.
13. Apply flux to each joint and solder the connections with a torch.
14. At the washing machine supply location, install a washing machine shutoff valve.
15. Attach stainless-steel hoses to the washtub and faucet supply line. Hand-tighten and then snug them up with a pair of pliers.
16. Connect 1-inch PVC pipes from the washtub to the PVC Y-connection and drain line. Ensure you install a check valve to prevent discharged water from returning to the pump and a ball valve to control the flow.
17. Move the washer into place and connect the stainless-steel supply hoses.
18. Be sure to throttle down the water pump until it continuously stays on while water is being fed. Otherwise it will short-cycle, shortening the life of the pump.
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I watched this just to get some general plumbing info and it wound giving me a solution to the venting issue I’m having with my basement bar sink. Never would have heard about this pump if it wasn’t for these guys. Thanks to all of them!
Ive loved this show ever since I was like 10 years old. I'm now 42 and it's still one of my favorites.
I’ve seen them myself growing up watching Sesame Street 😄
I am gonna guess you also loved The New Yankee Workshop?
This was one of my favorite shows as a kid. This and home time with Dean Johnson and his wife always got my full attention.
#MeToo. I’m 36 now.
Shout out to Bob Villa too. Also, who remembers Home Improvement here to the fellow 80's Babies!!
Tip: make sure you put a sock or pantyhose over the end of the washer hose. Clean regularly so the old drain pipe does not clog.
3years later and i’m popping in to say this is genius and thank you
zip screws should not be used on the 4" dryer vent. they will collect lint on the inside and have potential fire hazard. use high temperature metal tape.
What about rivets?
Which pump did you guys use. The links just take me to the general Amazon list
Is there ANY plumbing job that Richard cannot do???? The man is AMAZING and so mechanically-gifted!
I nearly fell out of my chair at 1:34 when Richard begins to drill and says "hopefully that lines up pretty good outside."
Cosmic Lawnmower same hahahah then he just goes outside and immediately starts hole sawing the outside
fall off chair like in the movie? LOL
This video answered several things for me as I'm going to be relocating my washer and dryer to the basement. My initial thought was "run the drain to the sump pump". Had no idea I could just install it to a sink! Brilliant. And also, yes, I can just drain it to the sump pump. Well done video!
I’m also thinking abt relocating it to my basement but I’m totally clueless what to do with the venting. It seems that you don’t need a vent with pump
@@bhadz100 the reason you don't need a vent in this application is the top of the slop sink acts like a vent stack.
The washing machine i just bought has the ability to pump 8ft high. No need for a sink and pump. Ill be installing it today. In my case , the drain pipe i need to access is 6ft high from the floor.
I wanted to move my washer to the basement but had all the drain piping above the floor. Was afraid I'd have to hire someone to cut up the concrete and install a drain pipe in the floor, but this video was very informative.
That laundry sink pump set up is the same setup we had when I was a kid, the house was built around 1965.
"Time to put you to work"
proceeds to do all the work himself
This plumber guy is The Man. It's all second nature to him. He just knows what to do with every job by looking at it! 🤓
Richard is a Real Pro. I've learned a LOT from you Richard! Excellent videos as always. John 3:16
My house floor is elevated about 3 feet up from the back of my house and I wash planning to move my laundry out to the back.
This video solved most of my dilemmas other than the vent but I will find a way. I'm 8 years late, but thank you very much.
Thank you, finally a video that shows proper dryer hook up. Prefer rigid pipe over flex, less issues.
Except that he put zip screws in it. Tape or clamps only is the code I work under.
When I was a child, the show was interesting, but did not hold my attention. As an adult, I'm enthralled, 'cause I gotta fix everything and build the things I want.
I used to think this show was so boring but now I'm taking plumbing classes
Thanks for this information! No one wants to live without a washer dryer in their house if they can avoid it! Peace and Love.
That was VERY informative Richard! Didn't know that pump and the vent design were available! Thanks.
MRrwmac
Why don't they just get a stacked unit. And use the washing machine's built in pump.....
@@shahsmerdis Either way the drain is way too high so a pump would be needed in both cases.
These homeowners get a good deal. They get the the repair done for free. In return, they agree to be filmed for the show. Saves them alot of money.
Love hearing Richard’s laboring noises
Please don’t use screws on dryer vents. Lent gets caught and prevents air flow. Use a worm gear clamp for the metal flex tube or foil tape on hard pipe
Right!!
Lint*
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Dummy - Why are you posting SPAM? Don't you know how to sell? Idiot, go back to your Ghetto where you belong.
Since using the valve as a throttle of course tightens the drain orifice, I would've added a cleanout just before it. I also would've added a check valve after it, to relieve pressure from the ball valve and check valve in the pump, as replacing an in-line check valce is cheaper and easier than replacing the check valve that built into the pump assembly.
Im about to do this. So you're saying to install the check valve after the ball valve? I using the rubber one so it could be worked on later if needed. And also a cleanout before the ball valve? so in order: pump > cleanout > ball valve > check valve?
ball valve for throttling. nice.
Is that bad?
@@doctordumbass9425 It's wasteful. You restrict the diameter of the waste pipe, potentially risking a clog. In addition, the pump now have to fight an artificial counterpressure in the waste end and has to work way harder than it needs to, hence it works slower, using the same power, but applying a lot of bonus wear on the pump mechanics. This should have been solved by pulse width modulation on the power end
@@LemonZ89 cool
Thanks for the info
@@LemonZ89 That pump is strong enough to suck a golf ball through a garden hose, that ball valve is not even causing it to break a sweat. PWM would have increased cost and possibly reduced pump life more than the ball valve did.
My rudimentary google kung fu tells me that most of these pumps are mounted in a small tank below the sink which allows it to fill a bit more and pace itself. I think?
The most excellent, quick-video on basement plumbing I've seen.
This guy he is genius..
I have learned a lot from this Guy.
Thanks a lot..and God bless you.
I’m very critical of this show, but Rich is probably the star in how he explains things to the customer.
That guy did one hell of a plywood job in that corner... I’ve never seen anything like it.
Richard has always been AWESOME.
My washer can pump its discharge into a standpipe 96 inches above the floor the machine is installed on. I suspect most can do the same, doing away with the need for a second pump.
DO NOT USE ZIP SCREWS OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF SCREW TO SECURE THE VENT PIPE TO ITSELF. You mut only use clamps or tape to fasten the pipe together. If you do the lent will get caught on the screw inside the pipe and cause a FIRE.
Great video Richard, an elegant solution to big problem...Frank
I just got the big Samsung 5.6 Front load and Matching dryer with a scratch and dent deal at Lowes and it was the best money I spent in awhile. I had an old GE front load washer that was horrible thing could never balance a load, and an ancient clothes dryer. The new laundry appliances are so nice and fast now and the capacity is insane you could wash an army with this washing machine.
i mostly see the laundry tub pump in the basement floor and plugged in and the ball valve is good trick.. .. alot of people here put it in the sump pump and the sump pump puts it in the sewer..
if you going to refinish a basement like that you should use exterior grade - plywood, 2x4s, etc.. and the basement/foundation wall should be painted with drylok.
This video was incredibly helpful. Can I ask why water hammer arrestors werent used after the washer valve?
Didn't know they made a small pump specifically for that and no vent cool, curious about the cost of the pump itself and what it would've cost to have all that done
I have the exact same throttling problem in my basement. Now i just have to take the time to get it fixed.
I just had to deal with a nightmare natural gas install with my clothes dryer. The good thing is I was able to fix it with out too much of a hassle.
Wouldn't that partly open ball valve plug up in no time? Especially with a washing machine draining in there.
Same question....anyone have any thoughts?
It won't. You have to throttle the valve for the pump to work properly. I've installed a ton of these pumps and never an issue. Also the pump is mainly only running gray water. It's not much to clog it up.
He probably installed a mesh screen on the end of the drain line from the washer to catch any lint before it gets to the pump
It’s just grey water so there’s nothing to clog it.
Great instruction video, but what seems to be a great instructor. Thanks for the lesson...
Great video! I actually learned something I can use
Rich has and knows about every plumbing do-da that was ever made.
Mentioned in a previous video was an extra pipe for venting, but on this one there isn't one. Is an extra vent required for the washer? I am a DIY'er and I find plumbing intimidating but am unable to find any company to come and fix my plumbing. They come out I ask for a bid and never get one. So I will have to fix my plumbing myself. Right now my washer is draining into my sump pump area, I am worried about the wear and tear on that sump pump, and then it not working when we get a big rain and it flooding my basement. I want to do a utility sink with the said pump on it, professional advice is appreciated.
That water valve was pretty nice
I think I need a laundry sink with a pump since I'm having the same problem, the previous owner rigged something up to force the washer to the waste pipe but the drainage wasn't good. Now the new washer won't reach it at all. Links to this pump would have been nice I'm left with more questions but I'll figure it out.
Still Teaching after 40 years....Wow🤯
I have a similar set up, but I connected both the washing machine and laundry sink to the drain going out. I don't understand why you'd want to pump the washing machine water twice, and also add extra workload to the sink pump.
Probably because the washing machine pump isn't designed to pump against gravity, in this case about 6 ft., but the sink pump is so designed.
Where can you find the pump? I’m finding everything but the pump.
Wow that's a lot of work
Keeps saying he's going to put the guy to work, then proceeds to do all the work, culminating with getting pissed at 5:10
My mother had this kind of setup and the sink was constantly clogging with all the lint coming off the clothes from the washing machine. She had to put pantyhose over the outlet, which was unsightly.
Sooo..I have a serious question.
My mother has that sink set up...but on hers....she covers the exit washing pump with a nylon so it catches the lint and stuff...as she said it shouldn't go down the drain/water pumper?? Whhhat?
Did you buy the sink with the pump already installed or did you have to buy them separately and put it together yourself?
Can I just connect the laundry drain directly to the pump ?
If I really need a sink, can I connect sink and laundry drain with a T-pvc pipe this way the laundry isn't draining in the sink.
Just buy the pump I guess other than space there’s no need to not have the sink
When running the hot and cold down to the washer why not just transition to pex instead of running more copper?
Preference, I would have done just that. Some people still aren't sold on Pex. No idea why. The only problem I have with it is I don't want it carrying any of my potable water. It's probably fine, but again, just a preference.
EffArDee are you on a well or do you have Cory water
@@iLikeC00kieDough well water
Why transition to pex? Its copper, keep it copper. I don't know why everybody thinks pex is God's gift to Plumbing I think it's f****** garbage PEX is for homeowners doing their own work that don't know how to solder. Same with sharkbite fittings.
@@mitchdenner9743 My old man has owned a plumbing shop for 40 years, he always plumbs with pex for at least the last 20 years. The big deal for him is it won't split when frozen, which happens quite often here in the midwest. It also gives you more options when retrofitting, it bends around objects whereas copper does not. Pex also has a longer life expectancy as well, copper could corrode and pex won't. The chances are slim, but why take it when you have a product that will last forever. Shark bites are junk I will give you that.
Glancing through the comments hartell pumps makes a very good laundry pump similar to what they were using. And they've been around for years
Makes it look so easy.
That’s why I am happy that my drain doesn’t leave through the wall
Very good instructional video ,this is for my next project tank you
Don’t need a pair of water hammer arrester for the hot and cold supply to the washing machine?
Not really, the flex hoses take a lot of the shock
Is this still being done today? Does this prevent water flowing back into basement if sewer gets flooded by rainstorm? Thank you. Be well.
Water can't flow back in due to the special valve acting as a backflow preventer that was shown which also stops sewer gas so a vent wasn't required.
So if I have a sump pump I can just let the water of the washer go into the sump pump ?
Why is the 220 volt electric hot water heater wire not protected?!
Only supposed to run 6 feet of flex drier vent. I use as little as i need to anyways
This is semi rigid, not flex. You can run 12’ i believe. This is a good set up
Shocked Richard didn't notch out the siding so that the Dryer vent sits flat to the wall. Did he shim it ?
Hell no... just throw some caulking in there, and done!
Haha
God is good! I wish every professional were like you guys. Pleasant, informative, cheap. You should give the date of work done and an estimate of pricing in different areas of the USA.
Even being extra trouble, I would have instead put in a sump pump, and had it as peace of mind in case of a basement flood.
Need more info about installing that laundry drain system....
What is the cost of a job like this.?
Can't use a swing check on a vertical lines you only use them on horizontal lines , you would use a spring loaded check valve on vertical lines , and the laundry valves need air arresters to prevent water hammering
Rich Santana the check was on a horizontal line, the ball valve was vertical
wrong. That only applies to waterlines. Swing checks are installed on sewage/sump pumps in the vertical all the time and it meets code.
The house I just moved into has a drain/sump pump enclosed into a bucket (I don't know the actual term), submersible sump pump. Is there a difference between that method and the non submersible no bucket method in the video? At some point I'm going to add another sink and will either need to drain into the current sink or buy another pump.
If I dont need the sink part can I just run the drain hose to the pump or take the drain hose off and run pvc pipe into the back of the washer machine then have it go to the pump? I dont have much space to fit a sink or barrel
can i pipe the washer in and add a check valve, instead of draining it into the sink?
I think thats cool now if i get a job like this it would be very helpful
This was freeking awesome!
as a question,
it's not easier just to buy a front load washermachine, do a p trap up close to the main pipe and put the washer in a 3' pedestal? like a laundromat?
so instead of lowering the pipe you raise the floor.
The washer pump must be able to push water 5' total, no?
That way you save on all those pumps sinks etc.
Ok i just saw 2 dryer vents installed, one was rerouted to go right outside with lil bends , the 2nd one went up then 90° bend to go outside. What's the dryer vent " rule of thumb ?"
Just try and go out the closest way you can
What if you can't place the sink right next to the washer? Mine is ten feet away and I can't run drain pipe across a walkway
I want to add a laundry room in my detached garage but there is no drain there. The nearest drain is under my house maybe 20'-30' away. Will one of these pumps be strong enough to send the grey water to the drain under the house?
I thought zip screws or screws aren't allowed by code because of the lint?
Can this be used for a kitchen sink? I have a concrete slab foundation and would like to relocate my entire kitchen.
next time call Tom to fix the exterior vent because he always do one template and match the exterior form of the house
Badass setup
I haven't taken a look at the entire comment section but I hope that is a aluminum elbow off that dryer and I do not like that flex pipe it collects too much lint
I got this pump and I want to install in the glacier bay laundry sink, but the bottom of the sink have 4 leaps that do not let the fiber or the rubber gasket, to flush to the sink and seal it, should I change for other sink? or there is a way around it?
Thank You
this is great. also had no idea you could run a pump like this in lieu of sanitary pit.
Never use screws on drier vent. The lent will stick to them. Never use flex pipe either.
Screws on dryer vent is a bad. Catches lint and causes 🔥
Here's an idea put your laundry machines on the main floor or upstairs. That way you can connect to the drain and let gravity work.
Exactly what I'm having a plumber quote today, curious how much this will be?
About how much was it? I'm getting a quote today.
I may try to do it myself but I know I'll end up on the floor covered with pvc shavings and sewage.
Wood directly bolted to concrete... in the basement... for the washroom... mold?
He May have *_Thoroseal_* on the concrete wall
So this setup doesn't require a vent pipe?
Is this approved in Canada? The pump
This guy is good!
How do you know which water pipes are hot and cold, cus in my apartment, its labeled or clear as to which is which, Great vid btw.
run the water, then feel both lines, hot water line will be warm/hot
Can a air admittance valve be used to vent all three items?
Wonder if you could tie the hose lower by the drain then it just laying in sink like that
The drain hose needs to be elevated to a point higher than where it won't be at threat of being submerged in water. If it's not, siphoning will occur, essentially sucking water back into the washing machine. In a traditional install where a drain hose is inserted into a standpipe rather than a drainage basin, if the drain hose is installed incorrectly whereupon it literally touches the bottom of the p-trap, mold will manifest and creep its way up the hose, eventually being siphoned into the machine. A drain neck (which is used in this video) holding the drain hose, zip tied off, and allowing only four to six inches into your egress point is proper.
Galvanized pipe is just about clogged up.
Sink wasnt necessary. Most washing machines can pump up to 8ft in vertical height. All you have to do is cut the pipe add a wye and trap and connect the washer.
Do any washing machine manufacturers specify the head that their machines will pump against? Or is that just your experience?
@@trek520rider2 GE specifies it in their website and manual. LG specifies it in their manual.
Excellent video !!!