When she was recording this vid, little did she know she would literally talk with the artist ❤️ I would die for a reply from Tati❤️ You are really lucky❤️ love you both❤️
19 June 2022 , Tati was on Hellfest stage performing this live . Nightwish was on stage , June , 25th , so there are some new live versions of their older material , Tuomas has changed some songs a bit . Lot of other band too , arte concert has streamed most on YT .
Every person reacting to Picies pausing the song at the same place, "Oh this is surprisingly soft..." Every Jinjer fan sits back, "This is what we came for."
well.. its not the first time they have watched this video. and they have probably seen other react to it. so they know whats about to happen lol. most of these are not tru first time reactions.
1:40 "She's got an intereting tone quality. It's got a little bit of rasp in it". Jinjer army rubbing hands together: "This is going to be spectacular".
"She can still sing... her vocal quality isn't affected at all... that's awesome!" I'm not really a Jinjer fan.. but I loved the admiration you show. As a lifelong metal fan, it's so refreshing to see professionals finally acknowledging talent beyond their preferred genres. Much respect to you. 🙏❤️
She actually said in an interview that it's really important for her that the lyrics is as clear as possible, because she spends time writing the lyrics and wants them to be understood. It's also not her native language.
Music transcends language, place &time. Even if she sang in her native language I'd search for translation & look into it. Cz lyrics are as much as important like the delivery & technical stuff
Do you know if she writes them in Russian and translates it? Or like, does she use a dictionary? She uses complex english words a lot and it's not her first language
She's said in an interview (with Elizabeth, actually) that she indeed does exactly that. For her it works out well because the translation seems to keep a lot of the poetic intent of the original.
"I didn't know a human female can make a sound like that. Now I've to go try it" This video is almost one year old, we are expecting a cover right now!
Little 5 ft tall, 98 lb Ukrainian girl with an angelic voice, suddenly turns into a daemon. The girl has talent, no question. The way the growl comes from the chest, and not the throat is awesome. Very impressive band.
She has probably the most impressive vocal range in metal I've heard since Mikael Akerfeldt. If they ever had a baby, they'd literally give birth to the Antichrist. ...and yes, I know, Mikael is married. Please spare us all your buzzkill replies.
My EXACT THOUGHT 👏🏾😂 her analysis point just from the vocal aspects of the situation. Through her experience she could already feel she was building up for something yet holding back at the same time just from what her tone was saying her body was doing
My husband played this song for my this past week. I was speechless, my jaw dropped i was so shocked to hear her voice go from princess to heavy metal. She has an amazing voice.
@@thedjentlemansshow I'm not sure about that! False cord is a constriction of the false cords which almost always produces high pitch. Fry is wide open and almost always produce lower pitches! Marco from Nightwish does false cord and it's very high and his throat clenches! The key is generally to look at the neck. Tatiana was asked and she said she doesn't know if she's a fry or false cord she just does it... And doesn't reccomend it.
Just bored Wether you like the growling or not, she’s got some of the best growls and technique in metal, especially for her voice range. She’s actually insane.
I know you aren't into band stories, but this group originally came to some festivals on a scrap van, did their thing and won the hearts of many. Hats off.
I 'm sitting here, wiping my tears.. Relax, it is not because of sadness, but i' m thinking back to the fist time i saw this video, i had the same reactions as you. I 'm still struggling to get my eyebrows back where they belong. They went straight up and above my hair.
I had listened to the song multiple times assuming it was two different singers (not knowing much about the band). Imagine my surprise when I watched the video and found out it was ALL her.
I've seen Jinjer live several times now and her ability is astounding. She can scream and growl and then hit complete clarity. Her voice is amazing. Like I say, I've witnessed Tatyana live and can confirm 100% she is one of the finest singers ever!!
Last night i got to see Jinjer live, and they were absolutely mind blowing, and my wife actually got to speak to her after the show, which is awesome because my wife, Alina, is the vocalist of our band and from Belarus, which is close to where Jinjer is from. I cant express enough how incredible they were!
@@jennifercooper3149 we are called Star of Khorala, and we have music up on bandcamp, spotify, and youtube (I believe) and thank you for your interest! Let me know what you think
This is probably the best reaction I’ve seen of this vid, instantly made her say “i have to go try this now.” Shows women have a place in metal and it’s awesome to see that she is an inspiration to aspiring female vocalists!
I've watched a few of these Pisces reaction videos, and while most people love it, the women seem to be inspired and excited, but a few of the men say it's not real, at least at first. It figures. Sigh. Well, I for one am inspired (but not to try this at home).
I've seen Jinger live. Tatiana can ABSOLUTELY do all of this live, without any effects. Watching your reaction to her skills is amazing; the stunned looks you give as she shows off her (admittedly amazing) range and skills are absolutely charming.
@@nikabay7190 right… but it will be going through effects etc. everyone who sings live has reverb put on right? So makes sense can just add a bit of distortion. Might not be a peddle on the stage, but easy to do on sound desk. I’m not suggesting she’s miming
I would like to formally welcome you into the Jinjer family. Welcome to the rabbit hole Abyss of astonishment. My I recommend a few songs for your listing pleasure?. Jinjer - Perennial (live at wacken / teacher teacher / who's gonna be the one / astronomy / sit-stay-rollover.
As a metalhead, I do believe screaming and growling counts as singing. The amount of practice it takes to have that ability takes longer than you thing. To be able to scream or growl healthily, without damaging your vocal chords takes a lot of time and patience to get to that point.
coming from the same place, i think only when you do screaming correctly it should be considered singing. if you do it wrong and you destroy your voice then i think it is not singing at that point.
The thing that counts against it for me is that there is generally no pitch or tone control. It's a scream. It's a vocal effect, it's a technique that's not easily mastered without destroying your vocal cords, but I kinda see why someone might not consider it singing.
@@mkall well that definition is broken right from the off. What's a lyric? How is it different from just a spoken word and why would you use it to define singing? I'd say many musical performances don't have discernible lyrics yet you and I would still say the performer was singing.
As for growling women, there comes Angela Gossow from Arch Enemy to mind. She used to do some of the heaviest growls, a true monster. There are perfect examples of this in the live versions of the song "We Will Rise".
This is the biggest WAIT FOR IT video of all time. I LOVE getting people with it. No one EVER has a clue what's coming and even after they hear it they think it's not what they just heard.
Most people's reactions be like: GOSH, OMG Stunned silence. Elizabeth; bursts out laughing, like a kid who's just been told that the ice-cream van is outside, and you can go get the biggest cone you like. It's this totally infections enthusiasm, which make you come back to the channel.
Weirdly I had the same reaction to Pulp Fiction the first time I saw it; I totally relate to her saying, "I've never laughed so hard in astonishment..."
I mean, when you start to laugh, you definitely genuinely in shock, confused, and amazed .. cuz that what i did too 😅... I was laughing, got tears in my eyes, and kept repeating it...
That's the entire reason I started following her to start with. There's a million reactors on youtube, but she not only explains the technical aspects very well, and has an amazing ear, but I just love watching her face as she COMPLETELY geeks out on the music, regardless of the genre.
I had a friend in the early 90s who was the singer for a death metal band, she sang like this, she was also a trained opera singer. It's pretty amazing when people explore what their voices can do.
It's fantastic you recognize the way she screams is healthy and it's intent for intensity. Please check out "Teacher Teacher" - Jinjer Or for something new "Awakening" - Unleash the Archers
Not Awakening. That is especially instrumental-wise impressive. Better Unleash The Archers - Tonight we Ride. The strength of Floor plus a neat fry. ^^
Every female I've ever shown Tati to has said the exact same thing, "I didn't know a female could do that" - they also seem very empowered learning that fact. So much respect for her xox
I love how everyone of us is here for one reason... Because we know what to expect, but it never gets old to see. And right on cue, they all drop their guard around Tatiana. Reaction videos: Oh she has such a lovely voice, so calm and gentle. [5 seconds later] Reaction videos: WHAT THE F- [throws headphones and flies out of chair] All of us: [grinning and chuckling like idiots]
This may sound weird, but when I’m having a bad day, THIS REACTION VIDEO IS WHAT I WATCH!!! Your face, totally locked in, and then almost looks like you’re gonna cry, but just roll out of it and start laughing, and right back to being amazed. When I’m having a bad day, that’s what I need to do…
I watched Jinjer years ago in a small club in Frankfurt, Germany. When they just started to become a bit more popular. It was a really small club. Tatiana just walked by me right in front of me. I'm 5'11. Tatiana's height goes to about my shoulders. That lady is like 5 feet smol. Never underestimate the small ones. Holy cow.
Is "screaming" considered "singing"? Unequivocally, yes. It can vary in pitch, tone, timbre, volume, range, etc. Generated from the same resources and tools as more "traditional singers". Though application, implementation, and construction may be a bit different. There's distincf technique involved to generate not only the sounds but also to preserve the instrument and to do it safely. There's no way it can't objectively be considered singing, even if it's not someone's preference.
@@vl.Merrow As most of the male growlers do pitch down their voice and add it as a harmony on an additional track. I don't like it, music should stay real in a sense. They have great vocals on their own.
@@TheCharismaticVoice That's true that there are a lot vocal analysis channels on youtube now but i like your personality and you seems to know what you are talking about, we get nice feedback but not too much so we can enjoy the song too. (and also your hairs color looks amazing). Little suggestion for the next song : ruclips.net/video/FnkTuHP9q3o/видео.html
The Rabbit hole for RUclips reactions for Jinjer; Pisces Live session - Check Who's Gonna be the one live official Teacher, Teacher official Perennial Live Wacken 2019 Next 3 videos right there, Elizabeth! :)
This was the first reaction I saw by you and I always remembered you saying you didn't know a woman could sing like this. I'm back now after seeing you doing vocal training to growl and I'm so impressed by how you jumped right in and embraced this genre. Major props. 👊
Would be so fun to see what her first reaction to this song would have been like if it happened now in 2023 after she's had so much more experience and interest in metal.
Vlad is the drummer Roman is the guitarist Eugene is the bassist Tatiana is the vocalist Next reaction you do you can look at the lyrics before hand because she writes like a poet.
If you wrote "Tatiana" then you should write full names of the other band members: Vladislav, Roman, Evgenii (Eugene - is not russian/ukrainian name because if transliterate Eugene to russian it will sound like "yougen" which is definitely not Evgenii).
It is absolutely amazing to re-watch this in late 2023, knowing that by now you've not only interviewed Tati herself but also have checked out other metal artists and collaborated with Will Ramos et al and are truly familiar with harsh vocals.
Elizabeth, I saw Jinjer live in concert in March, in Brisbane,Australia, (just before everything went into lockdown) and in 5 decades of attending concerts, their's was in my top 5 of all time. Tatiana is a powerhouse and her clean vocals, sublime !!
If I still did crowds, Jinjer would be one I'd like to see. I've seldom seen performers who clearly enjoy what they do that much (also the 5 decades club)
Yeah, I saw them in Melbourne this year, we got very lucky with their tour coming just before the lockdown. 30+ years going to live music and Jinjer is easily in my top 3 metal gigs of all time.
Look up a false fold growl. I've been trying to train myself to do this shit and it's so much training. You can really fuck yourself up if you go about it the wrong way. But I'm pretty sure Tati uses false fold growls.
I'm fairly ok at it, and iv been at it for 10+ years. You gotta really like practicing, and also realize these sounds are amplified by mics. Tati is not too awfully loud without one. And yes this is false vocal folds.
I have meny mates who always buy the more fashionable headphones for mega money and I always tell them the sound quality of even a cheap pair of dj headphones blows them out the water and all I ever hear back is but these are beats or these are wireless ear buds
@@kevmccormick1767 Yeah mate...story of my life too :-)) I've only listened to one pair of Beats...over-blown and muddied bass sound. That's no good to me when I'm listening to Geddy Lee play...and electro, EDM...you're missing richness and detail in the production...any genre.
@@philproffitt8363 Can confirm once tried 300 dollar Beats headphones and the sound quality especially in metal music was awful compared to my 200 or so dollar Sony headphones
Tatiana is for sure one of the most impressive vocalists of the last 50 years. The Pisces video does just barely scratch her abilities. She is an amazing live performer, she is an expression powerhouse, she is an awesome, intelligent lyricist, esp. great for writing in a second language. Her stage presence is one of a kind, she comes on stage and owns it before even singing one note. The range of her skills and genre experience is mindblowing. Never go wrong listening to Jinjer. Did I mention, that the whole band is pure awesomeness? Go on and review at least one more Jinjer song to see the range ...
In an interview they said that there were some added overdubs. The duality of the vocals fits in with the Pisces theme. The sign of Pisces has 2 fish swimming in opposite directions, so she is of 2 minds regarding the situation she is in. Behind all of the sea and fishing metaphors, you can see that although she wants love, she is "skittish" due to past bad experiences suffered at the hands of "callous men" and "handsome butchers". One reactor said she reminded him of his ex-wife - before and after marriage.
This reaction is just a lovely timecapsule. Now in hindsight we now know that harsh vocals are just another tool in the vocal arsenal for rock/metal singers. Once you see Tatiana, Floor and Alissa using various degrees of fry and doing it day after day on tour... you realize how super talented they are.
A singer is as much a musician as anyone, with their voice being the instrument. So using fry screams and the like to sound like that isn't really any different than a guitar player using extreme distortion or a drummer using unusual accessories to drum on for a specific sound. So yes, this is singing.
exactly the poit i allways make , besides..... if that wasnt considered not singingthen we would also have to excludethe hu with the mongolian throat singing
I don't think that qualifies it as singing, but singing is one of a range of vocal techniques, under which you also find things like fry screaming, rapping, throat singing, false chord growls, etc. The voice is the instrument, but singing is a subset of what the instrument can do. Nothing in that precludes the inherent musicianship of vocalists.
It takes a lot of technique to do it correctly and healthy, just based on that it would be crazy to discount it from singing. I know not the best reason. :-) but clearly part of knowing what to do with your instrument and how to use it.
Watching people go into this cold never gets tired. lol I'm convinced there's anatomical gifts at play here too. Obviously Tati is super skilled, but of all the women who have great growls, she's the only one you could mistake for a man. It's remarkable.
ruclips.net/video/ZrFTR9fucr8/видео.html first time i heard this song had no idea it was a girl until towards the end. she sounds like a lot of dudes even when she does the high pitch screaming
@Darth Xero Angela Gossow! Nice, had forgotten about her - here's Arch Enemy performing Ravenous live, looks like an awesome gig: ruclips.net/video/mQaMh7WO-80/видео.html
I've lost track of how many reaction videos of this song that I've watched JUST to see the person's expression/shock/disbelief when Tatiana starts to growl.
Well, as others have suggested, try Jinjer - "Teacher, Teacher" for the full on effect of how she can change her vocal on the spot within the same sentence in the song for just a few words, and then back again. Most vocal coaches say that it's extremely difficult to do, but she does it no problem. For another band with similar vocals, try Arch Enemy - "The Eagle Flies Alone" or "War Eternal."
Yep, this. Perennial live as the best example of her vocal abilities and Who Is Gonna Be the One live as the best example of different growling modes, including extra low. As Elizabeth is not a metal listener, those two would be the only ones I would recommend just for pure Tati's voice analysis. Leave all the other songs for metal fans.
Well I think they are just saying to do it properly. Elizabeth is acknowledging that Tatiana is doing it properly. So I don't think she's necessarily saying the opposite of what they're saying.
I wonder what Zach Ansley would say about this, he did so harshly critique other vocal coaches who said growling/fry screaming can be done in a healthy way... my gut tells me there needs to be a way to do it properly, but Zach is also very convincing in his reasoning here(and his approach to singing is similarly scientific): ruclips.net/video/kSuSlTW1PRo/видео.html
i agree if she was a lay person but she is supposed to be a vocal coach so she can be surprised (as everybody would be when listening to Jinjer for the first time) but she should have been aware of the fact "that a human female can make a sound like that"
@@altohippiegabber Well, I think she's quite aware that the male vocal tract can produce fry/scream timbres. But it's rarer to find women that do it -- I'm not surprised she'd never heard anything like it. Besides this, she's a classical voice instructor; from my time at the conservatory, I can confirm that metal techniques are far from common in classical vocal pedagogy classes.
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Ohhhhhh that is dope!!!! 😊😊😊😊
When she was recording this vid, little did she know she would literally talk with the artist ❤️ I would die for a reply from Tati❤️ You are really lucky❤️ love you both❤️
Please .... look back in time to when female harsh vocals became my passion ... Kittie "What I always wanted " from about '99
19 June 2022 , Tati was on Hellfest stage performing this live .
Nightwish was on stage , June , 25th , so there are some new live versions of their older material , Tuomas has changed some songs a bit .
Lot of other band too , arte concert has streamed most on YT .
Listen to Ravenous by Arch Enemy
«She's got a little bit of rasp in it… »
Me: [stretch legs and grab popcorn]
I thought the same thing when editing the video before posting... oh, how little past Elizabeth knew.
@@TheCharismaticVoice Well, at least you didn't search your house for deamons ;)
I busted out laughing at that part! :D
Exactly
@M 40 Cool, I had not heard that!
“Sounds like she has the ability to go to a more aggressive tone” Best first impression analysis I’ve ever heard.
But... Still hit hard 😆
Elizabeth knows things... I wonder if she drinks.
I laughed when I heard her say that too. I thought, "Oh you sweet and timid little thing...are you in for a shock"😆😆😆
I watched the Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight" video before watching this one. Same kind of foreshadowing there. She's psychic.
You should listen to fairy god mother analysis than
Every person reacting to Picies pausing the song at the same place, "Oh this is surprisingly soft..."
Every Jinjer fan sits back, "This is what we came for."
Oh yeah! It is the money-shot!
just did kinda the same comment. :D and the second surprise is always gold again.
I feel like an Incubus feeding from reaction videos of this song
well.. its not the first time they have watched this video. and they have probably seen other react to it. so they know whats about to happen lol. most of these are not tru first time reactions.
With a slight pause at "reacting". These hypocrites, left and right. Liars.
1:40 "She's got an intereting tone quality. It's got a little bit of rasp in it".
Jinjer army rubbing hands together: "This is going to be spectacular".
At 1:40 she's don't know nothing yet..... :-)
I did laughing when she said that
i smirked when she paused at that point. i was like. she aint know whats about to happen
*Malicious laugh.* 😏
💀💀💀💀
1:54
Her: "Sounds like she has an ability to go to a more aggressive tone"
Everybody watching: "Oh, we know"
In fairness...I had no effing clue. I was right there with Elizabeth
I was waiting 🤣🤣🤣
Excitedly exhaled from my nose in amusement when I heard that, thinking, "oh... you have no idea"
@@grav8e Same never heard of this woman or her band, I was like, what is even real anymore!?
😉🤟 soo good
"It sounds like she has a bit more of an aggressive tone..."
Me: *sips tea*
Watching this at 5:50am, I'm sipping coffee, but I get the sentiment.
I spat my tea over the kitchen at that point
exact comment I was looking for. I paused the moment she said that to look.
I'm dead
@@JustinG85 Watch the fuck... 5:55am, sipping coffee watching this... 5 months later and I found this comment in three seconds. o-o
Elizabeth two years ago: I didn't know that a human female could make a sound like that
Elizabeth now: Growling with Will Ramos
Is there a video of that?
@@stationdisatrous647 Yeah, it's on Elizabeth's channel. I commented the link above.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@rezashojaei9170 No you didn't .... or if you did , you deleted your comment with the link
@@michaelhawkins7389 it's probably youtube, they often just straight up delete comments with links as the vast majority of them are scams and the like
"She can still sing... her vocal quality isn't affected at all... that's awesome!"
I'm not really a Jinjer fan.. but I loved the admiration you show.
As a lifelong metal fan, it's so refreshing to see professionals finally acknowledging talent beyond their preferred genres. Much respect to you. 🙏❤️
That's because she uses false folds techniques
She actually said in an interview that it's really important for her that the lyrics is as clear as possible, because she spends time writing the lyrics and wants them to be understood. It's also not her native language.
it's a shame I understood none of it then hahaha
Music transcends language, place &time. Even if she sang in her native language I'd search for translation & look into it. Cz lyrics are as much as important like the delivery & technical stuff
Do you know if she writes them in Russian and translates it? Or like, does she use a dictionary? She uses complex english words a lot and it's not her first language
It seems a lot of people always tell me they can't understand what's being said but for me it literally sounds so clear even when growling
She's said in an interview (with Elizabeth, actually) that she indeed does exactly that. For her it works out well because the translation seems to keep a lot of the poetic intent of the original.
"I didn't know a human female can make a sound like that. Now I've to go try it"
This video is almost one year old, we are expecting a cover right now!
She should probably consult Mary Z before attempting that.
You have to open underneath the Adam's aple.
It's related to throat singing.
It takes more than a year to get to where Tatiana is tbh
@@hansmolders1066 ... and be able to turn your head 360 ° without worrying about a broken neck!
"Jinjer: Pisces reaction" is a genre unto itself
Yes. It's a genre I like. Hahaha
As you delve deeper into them, the reactions are just as entertaining ;)
Its a way of life!
Yesss it's how I judge every reaction channel.
Every now and then I come here just to appreciate the birth and rise of a metalhead.
It is beautiful.
Little 5 ft tall, 98 lb Ukrainian girl with an angelic voice, suddenly turns into a daemon.
The girl has talent, no question. The way the growl comes from the chest, and not the throat is awesome. Very impressive band.
She has probably the most impressive vocal range in metal I've heard since Mikael Akerfeldt. If they ever had a baby, they'd literally give birth to the Antichrist.
...and yes, I know, Mikael is married. Please spare us all your buzzkill replies.
I didn’t know she was so tiny.
@@makattak88
The 98 lbs thing may be an exaggeration, but ya 5 ft.
I met her and she was smaller than me; for reference, I’m 5ft 3in. But her and I were around the same weight which is around 140 pounds.
@@SweetPimpin Let's remind also that shes quite muscular too, she workouts alot.
"She has an ability to go to a little more aggressive tone." If you were an author, this would be fantastic foreshadowing.
My EXACT THOUGHT 👏🏾😂 her analysis point just from the vocal aspects of the situation. Through her experience she could already feel she was building up for something yet holding back at the same time just from what her tone was saying her body was doing
I wanted to write the exact comment 😂
Shortly before that, "a bit raspy" ... you have *NO* idea!
I was laughing so hard at this point
Buahaha, that's exactly what I was thinking, "I was like oh lady, you are in for an imminent surprise"
"... Has the ability to go to a more aggressive tone..."
Famous last words
Jinjer: I think we need to hire two singers for what we envision for this band.
Tatiana: Hold my beer
Exactly..
You completely missed the joke@@module79l28
And cigarettes....cannot forget those!
"What is happening" - the answer is Metal....Metal is happening.
Laughed a lot when she says that.
🤣🤣🤣
"Is vocal fry singing? "
Go ahead and try it. 😄
👏👏👏
One of my favorite comments ever!
"Sounds like she has the ability to go to more of an aggressive tone..."
Me: lol, just wait...
Hahaha
lol I'm like "honey, you got NO idea how aggressive that tone gets"
Lol...
Lol i told my self ,she's not ready hahahaha
lol!
"She''s got a bit of rasp going on there..."
Tatiana: "Hold my vodka"
To good.
LOL
and my cigar :D
Exactly what I wanted to say ^^
Yup
My husband played this song for my this past week. I was speechless, my jaw dropped i was so shocked to hear her voice go from princess to heavy metal. She has an amazing voice.
My new hobby is watching reactions to this song, they’re always entertaining
“She has a very interesting tone quality”
me: 😂.... just wait.. i must have patience this will be something..
Same here bro, they always crack me up lol
Same here. This is my goto song when checking a new reactionary 🙂
Yes indeed I click on all them just for the reactions love it and Jinjer too they are an amazing band and musicians as well 🤘🏽
Not only this, there's some surprising vocalists.
Elizabeth: “sounds like she could have a little more of an aggressive tone”
Tatiana: *hold my false chords*
She was also inspired by tatiana!.
She uses false chord?
@@MarcosIx yes, many people confuse her screams with fry but its a very basic low false chord
@@thedjentlemansshow I'm not sure about that! False cord is a constriction of the false cords which almost always produces high pitch. Fry is wide open and almost always produce lower pitches!
Marco from Nightwish does false cord and it's very high and his throat clenches! The key is generally to look at the neck. Tatiana was asked and she said she doesn't know if she's a fry or false cord she just does it... And doesn't reccomend it.
My favorite comment so far 😂😂
Elizabeth: "Sounds like she could have a little more of an aggressive tone"
Tatiana: "Hold my vocal chords"
Let's just stop for a minute and talk about the absolutely superskilled musicians backing her up!
Studs.
She’s got great range
Everybody: holllddddddd for it
I think she's gotta be near 4 octave
Yes but too many d’z
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Arianna Grande supreme and Fred Mercury did it!
@hardtymz2517 Freddie is actually 4 octave. Not sure about Arianne.
I think Tati is maybe close to 4.5
This song is as close to a rite of passage for RUclips reactors as you'll ever find.
It is.
it is a win-win imho. Jinjer gets more fame, so does the youtuber
Along with Dimash (SOS), and Nightwish (Ghost Love Score) in my opinion.
Add Slaughter to prevail demolisher, instant views.
@@Inferiis Yes this.
Seeing people react to this song for the first time never gets old.
Just bored Wether you like the growling or not, she’s got some of the best growls and technique in metal, especially for her voice range. She’s actually insane.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
how do you like these voices, dudes? ;-) ruclips.net/video/Ky14B99Yg3o/видео.html
That just had become a 5 years ritual to me right now
I know you aren't into band stories, but this group originally came to some festivals on a scrap van, did their thing and won the hearts of many. Hats off.
Candidate for thumbnail of the year!
Upvote this if you think I should hold an end-of-year competition for top thumbnail.
@@TheCharismaticVoice 100%
I 'm sitting here, wiping my tears.. Relax, it is not because of sadness, but i' m thinking back to the fist time i saw this video, i had the same reactions as you. I 'm still struggling to get my eyebrows back where they belong. They went straight up and above my hair.
Looks like Tatiana is making her cry.
I only clicked on this video because of that expression!
Katy Perry: " Hear me roar!"
Tati: " Cute..."
This comes to mind: ruclips.net/video/gPu90MHeNnQ/видео.html
Lol
Hah. Truth.
Never seen this comment before...
@@SoI_Badguy better version is: Tati answer "Hold my beer")
man i wish i could go back to the first time i heard this song. my jaw DROPPED to the floor.
100% 😂 I remember I was folding laundry and literally dropped a whole stack on the floor
Mine hit the floor 😂
I had listened to the song multiple times assuming it was two different singers (not knowing much about the band). Imagine my surprise when I watched the video and found out it was ALL her.
I was sitting at my desk at work.
I'm a seasoned metal head and I spit my water everywhere.
Think mine almost dislocated! 🤯🔥
I've seen Jinjer live several times now and her ability is astounding. She can scream and growl and then hit complete clarity. Her voice is amazing. Like I say, I've witnessed Tatyana live and can confirm 100% she is one of the finest singers ever!!
"Non metalheads" reacting to Jinjer are amazing in their facial expressions hahaha
yea lol ive just been watching reactions to pisces and other stuff
Im a metalhead since forever and jaw dropped the first time lmaooooo
Genuinly, every time i see someone reacting, i have to watch it!
I have saved a play list of just reaction of just this song just to see their faces
only here for that
“Sounds like she could have a little more of an aggressive tone...”
Me: evil smile Sits back and waits.
Same here... And will definitely say im so glad she didn't do back research... So we got a true feedback/reaction!!
I was thinking the same thing, the look on her face was priceless hahahahahah
lol right?
Exactly my thoughts at that moment :D
Jane Wallace hahaha exact same reaction
Katy Perry: "You're gonna hear me roar!"
Tetjana: "Hold my beer....."
Hahahaaahhahahahahahahaha
😂😂😂😂😂😂
*Hold my vodka
@@Bobobo-bo-bo-bobobo *pertsivka (Ukrainian pepper vodka)
The best comment ever about it
Last night i got to see Jinjer live, and they were absolutely mind blowing, and my wife actually got to speak to her after the show, which is awesome because my wife, Alina, is the vocalist of our band and from Belarus, which is close to where Jinjer is from. I cant express enough how incredible they were!
Донецк далеко от Беларуси
what is your band's name? Would love to hear!
@@jennifercooper3149 we are called Star of Khorala, and we have music up on bandcamp, spotify, and youtube (I believe) and thank you for your interest! Let me know what you think
This is probably the best reaction I’ve seen of this vid, instantly made her say “i have to go try this now.” Shows women have a place in metal and it’s awesome to see that she is an inspiration to aspiring female vocalists!
Thanks so much, AshenCorvum. This is such a sweet comment!
@@TheCharismaticVoice talk about conspicuous pandering oy
Bruh female vocalist in most music is the dopest part of music
I've watched a few of these Pisces reaction videos, and while most people love it, the women seem to be inspired and excited, but a few of the men say it's not real, at least at first. It figures. Sigh. Well, I for one am inspired (but not to try this at home).
AshenCorvum there would be a lot more place for women in metal if they’ didn’t want to be in the front every time...
I've seen Jinger live. Tatiana can ABSOLUTELY do all of this live, without any effects. Watching your reaction to her skills is amazing; the stunned looks you give as she shows off her (admittedly amazing) range and skills are absolutely charming.
How do you know they aren’t using effects? Whether it’s not peddle-triggered or the sound engineer adding it?
I saw her live - she does sing for real
@@nikabay7190 right… but it will be going through effects etc. everyone who sings live has reverb put on right? So makes sense can just add a bit of distortion. Might not be a peddle on the stage, but easy to do on sound desk. I’m not suggesting she’s miming
@@mrbejam You can hear when a voice has distortion. She doesn't use distortion at all. Not live and not any albums
@peter g fair point. I’ll leave it as is though haha.
JINJER - Perennial (Live At Wacken 2019)
Yesssss
Jinjer - Perennial (live at wacken), teacher teacher, who's gonna be the one, astronomy, sit-stay-rollover
I would like to formally welcome you into the Jinjer family. Welcome to the rabbit hole Abyss of astonishment. My I recommend a few songs for your listing pleasure?. Jinjer - Perennial (live at wacken / teacher teacher / who's gonna be the one / astronomy / sit-stay-rollover.
🤘🤘🤘😍💖🇷🇺
YAS. That's where she's at her best.
I have used this song at multiple parties, it brings people to tears every time.
As a metalhead, I do believe screaming and growling counts as singing. The amount of practice it takes to have that ability takes longer than you thing. To be able to scream or growl healthily, without damaging your vocal chords takes a lot of time and patience to get to that point.
Exactly like that 👌🏻🤘🏼
coming from the same place, i think only when you do screaming correctly it should be considered singing. if you do it wrong and you destroy your voice then i think it is not singing at that point.
The thing that counts against it for me is that there is generally no pitch or tone control. It's a scream.
It's a vocal effect, it's a technique that's not easily mastered without destroying your vocal cords, but I kinda see why someone might not consider it singing.
@@lmaoroflcopter if there are lyrics it is singing
@@mkall well that definition is broken right from the off.
What's a lyric? How is it different from just a spoken word and why would you use it to define singing?
I'd say many musical performances don't have discernible lyrics yet you and I would still say the performer was singing.
Vocal coaches reacting Jinjer is basically it's own genre at this point, and it's absolutely hilarious.
hehe
Yees
"Sounds like she could have a little more of an aggressive tone"
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As for growling women, there comes Angela Gossow from Arch Enemy to mind. She used to do some of the heaviest growls, a true monster. There are perfect examples of this in the live versions of the song "We Will Rise".
Yesss love Arch Enemy!!
Alissa also can sing in a huuuuuge range...
Iwrestledabearonce's original lead singer Krysta does it for me. 🥰
Alissa does some amazing things vocally as well. I'd love to hear an analysis/reaction to Reason To Go On
my ruin
"Sounds like she has the ability to go to a more agressive tone"
You have no idea.
A few hundred years ago, this kind of singing would get you burnt at the stake.
More like a few decades ago in some places...
@@FARLANDER762 ever been to iran lately? Every non national music is basically outlawed. So... Yeah... Even now in some places
@@christopherwibmer4258 as an iranian. this is actually sad but true :)
@@foureyedhuman very sad very true
It depends, on the christian side of things ? yes, the vikings side ? well they themselves did it
Can you imagine Tatiana being in a bad mood telling her kids to clean her room?
Ah ah ah, I cannnnnnnnnnn imagine
To clean HER room, not their rooms.
@@lw8882 true haha
Bet that shxt gets cleaned.
they would do it with a smile on their faces out of pure respect ^^
This is the biggest WAIT FOR IT video of all time. I LOVE getting people with it. No one EVER has a clue what's coming and even after they hear it they think it's not what they just heard.
"she has a little bit of rasp in it"
Me: giggles inside
"She has the ability to go to a more aggressive tone."
Tatiana - Hold my beer
*vodka
I literally laughed out loud because I always think, "they have NO idea what's coming."
Hold my blunt **
hold my beer and hand me your reality which I will destroy thoroughly
@@davidjames6036 horilka*
“Welcome back to the charismatic voice”
*SHE IS NOT READY*
The high notes in the final 20 secs are absolutely amazing
The drums too, my goodness they sound amazing.
Most people's reactions be like: GOSH, OMG Stunned silence. Elizabeth; bursts out laughing, like a kid who's just been told that the ice-cream van is outside, and you can go get the biggest cone you like. It's this totally infections enthusiasm, which make you come back to the channel.
Weirdly I had the same reaction to Pulp Fiction the first time I saw it; I totally relate to her saying, "I've never laughed so hard in astonishment..."
Yes and the flavor of the day is Caramel Jalapeno Liver...
That's one of the reasons why she's my favorite RUclips reactor. She just geeks out on everything and it's so infectious.
I mean, when you start to laugh, you definitely genuinely in shock, confused, and amazed .. cuz that what i did too 😅... I was laughing, got tears in my eyes, and kept repeating it...
That's the entire reason I started following her to start with. There's a million reactors on youtube, but she not only explains the technical aspects very well, and has an amazing ear, but I just love watching her face as she COMPLETELY geeks out on the music, regardless of the genre.
I had a friend in the early 90s who was the singer for a death metal band, she sang like this, she was also a trained opera singer. It's pretty amazing when people explore what their voices can do.
Could we get the name of her band?
It's fantastic you recognize the way she screams is healthy and it's intent for intensity.
Please check out "Teacher Teacher" - Jinjer
Or for something new "Awakening" - Unleash the Archers
Or Unleash the Archers brand new song Abyss!
Not Awakening. That is especially instrumental-wise impressive. Better Unleash The Archers - Tonight we Ride. The strength of Floor plus a neat fry. ^^
Martyaxvar Tonight We Ride is one of the greatest power metal songs I’ve ever heard. And the vocal range explored on that song is just incredible.
Every female I've ever shown Tati to has said the exact same thing, "I didn't know a female could do that" - they also seem very empowered learning that fact. So much respect for her xox
Her screaming is completely natural as well, when screaming in live shows it sounds exactly the same. Beautiful voice.
I think you’re ready for the powerhouse of vocals that is Devin Townsend.
Omg yes please! Devy 😍😍
Devin Townsend Project - Deadhead (live)
@@revredbeard3289 YESSS!
Yar! Or another Canadian like slays in Unleash the archers
devin is a god
I love how everyone of us is here for one reason... Because we know what to expect, but it never gets old to see. And right on cue, they all drop their guard around Tatiana.
Reaction videos: Oh she has such a lovely voice, so calm and gentle.
[5 seconds later]
Reaction videos: WHAT THE F- [throws headphones and flies out of chair]
All of us: [grinning and chuckling like idiots]
And it looks Like we are all addicted to People reacting to Tati
This may sound weird, but when I’m having a bad day, THIS REACTION VIDEO IS WHAT I WATCH!!! Your face, totally locked in, and then almost looks like you’re gonna cry, but just roll out of it and start laughing, and right back to being amazed. When I’m having a bad day, that’s what I need to do…
"It sounds like she can go a little more aggressive wit her voice" Oh ho ho =D
"Oh you sweet, Summer child..."
One of the best pre-chorus reaction lines ever. I was on the edge of my seat.
This song is just a Ballade 😂
Elizabeth's body language and facial expressions are pure gold in this video.
It's cracking me up. I keep hitting replay...
I love how you can do an in-depth analysis right off the cuff, while in the middle of a shocked, giggling panic attack.
I watched Jinjer years ago in a small club in Frankfurt, Germany. When they just started to become a bit more popular. It was a really small club. Tatiana just walked by me right in front of me. I'm 5'11. Tatiana's height goes to about my shoulders. That lady is like 5 feet smol. Never underestimate the small ones. Holy cow.
Is "screaming" considered "singing"?
Unequivocally, yes.
It can vary in pitch, tone, timbre, volume, range, etc. Generated from the same resources and tools as more "traditional singers". Though application, implementation, and construction may be a bit different. There's distincf technique involved to generate not only the sounds but also to preserve the instrument and to do it safely.
There's no way it can't objectively be considered singing, even if it's not someone's preference.
This was explained perfectly. What a great comment.
It brings to mind some people who consider Dimash to be nothing but a screamer, which is so wrong to me.
@@lilRadRidinHood WTF those people exist? o.OOOOO
they're called clean vocals and harsh/fry vocals.
Totally agree 👍
That wasn’t doubling her voice. That’s Tatiana and her demon singing a duo.
Lmao!
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she do have vocal harmonies in the playback.
I... Kind of like that take.
@@vl.Merrow As most of the male growlers do pitch down their voice and add it as a harmony on an additional track. I don't like it, music should stay real in a sense. They have great vocals on their own.
The reaction was priceless, you’re definitely one in 1 million and we appreciate you, thank you Elizabeth have a great day girl
Thank you, Jim! It was so much fun to be that surprised.
@@TheCharismaticVoice That's true that there are a lot vocal analysis channels on youtube now but i like your personality and you seems to know what you are talking about, we get nice feedback but not too much so we can enjoy the song too.
(and also your hairs color looks amazing).
Little suggestion for the next song : ruclips.net/video/FnkTuHP9q3o/видео.html
I love that this is one of the videos that has put you on the road to loving Metal Music!
I love both of Tatiana's voices. Her scream is epic, and her normal voice is like a warm bath.
Yeah, with bubbles D:
@@Horizzzz before switching it up and pouring lava in
The Rabbit hole for RUclips reactions for Jinjer;
Pisces Live session - Check
Who's Gonna be the one live official
Teacher, Teacher official
Perennial Live Wacken 2019
Next 3 videos right there, Elizabeth! :)
In Tati’s case, I’d definitely still call it singing. She still uses pitch, tone, notes and maintains diction.💪🏻🤘🏻
Actually it is almost all raw, Bro, no pitching tones at all
This was the first reaction I saw by you and I always remembered you saying you didn't know a woman could sing like this. I'm back now after seeing you doing vocal training to growl and I'm so impressed by how you jumped right in and embraced this genre. Major props. 👊
Would be so fun to see what her first reaction to this song would have been like if it happened now in 2023 after she's had so much more experience and interest in metal.
Perennial Live from Wacken 2019.
I second this
Vlad is the drummer
Roman is the guitarist
Eugene is the bassist
Tatiana is the vocalist
Next reaction you do you can look at the lyrics before hand because she writes like a poet.
If you wrote "Tatiana" then you should write full names of the other band members: Vladislav, Roman, Evgenii (Eugene - is not russian/ukrainian name because if transliterate Eugene to russian it will sound like "yougen" which is definitely not Evgenii).
IMO Jinjer is the perfect mix of a female vocalist and absolute aggression, also the band has wicked riffs.
Oh you like opeth? How about a twist on that with slamming female vocals? YES PLEASE
It is absolutely amazing to re-watch this in late 2023, knowing that by now you've not only interviewed Tati herself but also have checked out other metal artists and collaborated with Will Ramos et al and are truly familiar with harsh vocals.
Elizabeth, I saw Jinjer live in concert in March, in Brisbane,Australia, (just before everything went into lockdown) and in 5 decades of attending concerts, their's was in my top 5 of all time.
Tatiana is a powerhouse and her clean vocals, sublime !!
Saw them in Canberra, she's ridiculous in person, youtube live footage doesn't even begin to touch her phenomenal abilities.
i was there too was epic
If I still did crowds, Jinjer would be one I'd like to see. I've seldom seen performers who clearly enjoy what they do that much (also the 5 decades club)
Yeah, I saw them in Melbourne this year, we got very lucky with their tour coming just before the lockdown. 30+ years going to live music and Jinjer is easily in my top 3 metal gigs of all time.
OMG I cant wait for this. This a band that is extremely talented and has gone under the radar of waaaay too many people
I wish I could growl like Tatiana, and I am a grown male
Don't worry a voice coach will tell you it's a scream not a growl
Look up a false fold growl. I've been trying to train myself to do this shit and it's so much training. You can really fuck yourself up if you go about it the wrong way. But I'm pretty sure Tati uses false fold growls.
There's a WikiHow for you, man.
Dont we all...
I'm fairly ok at it, and iv been at it for 10+ years. You gotta really like practicing, and also realize these sounds are amplified by mics. Tati is not too awfully loud without one. And yes this is false vocal folds.
I love Jinjer and have seen them live every chance I have had, every person in that band gives 110%
Reactors take note: This lady got some decent headphones. Musicians like these deserve good clarity.
I was so happy to see the DT 770's! Way to go good headphones! And extra chuffed b/c I'm wearing my own DT 1770 Pros while listening to her.
I have meny mates who always buy the more fashionable headphones for mega money and I always tell them the sound quality of even a cheap pair of dj headphones blows them out the water and all I ever hear back is but these are beats or these are wireless ear buds
@@kevmccormick1767 Yeah mate...story of my life too :-)) I've only listened to one pair of Beats...over-blown and muddied bass sound. That's no good to me when I'm listening to Geddy Lee play...and electro, EDM...you're missing richness and detail in the production...any genre.
Thank youuuu, i be seeing reactors listening too slipknot with earbuds like how the fuck
@@philproffitt8363 Can confirm once tried 300 dollar Beats headphones and the sound quality especially in metal music was awful compared to my 200 or so dollar Sony headphones
Tatiana is for sure one of the most impressive vocalists of the last 50 years.
The Pisces video does just barely scratch her abilities. She is an amazing live performer, she is an expression powerhouse, she is an awesome, intelligent lyricist, esp. great for writing in a second language. Her stage presence is one of a kind, she comes on stage and owns it before even singing one note. The range of her skills and genre experience is mindblowing.
Never go wrong listening to Jinjer. Did I mention, that the whole band is pure awesomeness?
Go on and review at least one more Jinjer song to see the range ...
Listen Jinjer - Perennial live at Wacken 2019
Regards from Mexico
this
A must!
agreed, best ever performance from jinger
I was there, amazing show
Yes definitely
I just love how you paused and you talked about her having a bit of rasp at 1:45 just befor her starting growling. hahaha That so made my day
One of the best female leads in the world. Glad I'm here for the first run
In an interview they said that there were some added overdubs. The duality of the vocals fits in with the Pisces theme. The sign of Pisces has 2 fish swimming in opposite directions, so she is of 2 minds regarding the situation she is in. Behind all of the sea and fishing metaphors, you can see that although she wants love, she is "skittish" due to past bad experiences suffered at the hands of "callous men" and "handsome butchers". One reactor said she reminded him of his ex-wife - before and after marriage.
"It sounds like she has the ability to go to a more aggressive tone..."
And here. We.... Go!
This reaction is just a lovely timecapsule. Now in hindsight we now know that harsh vocals are just another tool in the vocal arsenal for rock/metal singers. Once you see Tatiana, Floor and Alissa using various degrees of fry and doing it day after day on tour... you realize how super talented they are.
Tati has said she doesn’t use fry..not sure how but just wanted to let you know
False cordx for sure
Out of all the "reactions" and "pro's," this was the best break-down of the the whole production for Jinjer. Nice job.
"She has the ability to go to a more aggressive tone"
Well, you weren't wrong!
A singer is as much a musician as anyone, with their voice being the instrument. So using fry screams and the like to sound like that isn't really any different than a guitar player using extreme distortion or a drummer using unusual accessories to drum on for a specific sound.
So yes, this is singing.
Exactly, it requires proper technique and it has a place inside the genre.
exactly the poit i allways make , besides..... if that wasnt considered not singingthen we would also have to excludethe hu with the mongolian throat singing
@@galadballcrusher8182 That's a very interesing point.
I don't think that qualifies it as singing, but singing is one of a range of vocal techniques, under which you also find things like fry screaming, rapping, throat singing, false chord growls, etc. The voice is the instrument, but singing is a subset of what the instrument can do. Nothing in that precludes the inherent musicianship of vocalists.
It takes a lot of technique to do it correctly and healthy, just based on that it would be crazy to discount it from singing.
I know not the best reason. :-) but clearly part of knowing what to do with your instrument and how to use it.
Your expressions are priceless! And super cute because they're genuine
Watching people go into this cold never gets tired. lol
I'm convinced there's anatomical gifts at play here too. Obviously Tati is super skilled, but of all the women who have great growls, she's the only one you could mistake for a man. It's remarkable.
ruclips.net/video/ZrFTR9fucr8/видео.html first time i heard this song had no idea it was a girl until towards the end. she sounds like a lot of dudes even when she does the high pitch screaming
@@MrSherlockDomes Thank you that´s hilarious!!!!! This one´s also pretty funny ruclips.net/video/QqjChIgzP5Y/видео.html
@Darth Xero Angela Gossow! Nice, had forgotten about her - here's Arch Enemy performing Ravenous live, looks like an awesome gig: ruclips.net/video/mQaMh7WO-80/видео.html
I've lost track of how many reaction videos of this song that I've watched JUST to see the person's expression/shock/disbelief when Tatiana starts to growl.
Well, as others have suggested, try Jinjer - "Teacher, Teacher" for the full on effect of how she can change her vocal on the spot within the same sentence in the song for just a few words, and then back again. Most vocal coaches say that it's extremely difficult to do, but she does it no problem.
For another band with similar vocals, try Arch Enemy - "The Eagle Flies Alone" or "War Eternal."
Is there a live Teacher, Teacher - the only one I've seen is live footage synced to the album track.
"Who is gonna be the one" live and "Perennial" live. I'm just gonna leave this here.
Yep, this. Perennial live as the best example of her vocal abilities and Who Is Gonna Be the One live as the best example of different growling modes, including extra low. As Elizabeth is not a metal listener, those two would be the only ones I would recommend just for pure Tati's voice analysis. Leave all the other songs for metal fans.
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Don't forget Just Another as well.
Pit of Conciousness and On the Top live in Kiev are also really good ones
Yeah both are amazing
4 years later this reaction is still priceless
I was happy that you noticed how talented the band is. Her skills are so impressive that a lot of people miss that.
Every other vocal coach: "Be careful doing this, it may hurt your voice".
Elizabeth: "Yeah, she's not doing anything unhealthy".
Elisabeth knows whats going on and is not as biased
This is true. That being said... be careful when you try this at home, kids. ;-)
And with that they mean to warn you not to try it on your own. Smart, because people definitely try it on their own.
Well I think they are just saying to do it properly. Elizabeth is acknowledging that Tatiana is doing it properly. So I don't think she's necessarily saying the opposite of what they're saying.
I wonder what Zach Ansley would say about this, he did so harshly critique other vocal coaches who said growling/fry screaming can be done in a healthy way... my gut tells me there needs to be a way to do it properly, but Zach is also very convincing in his reasoning here(and his approach to singing is similarly scientific): ruclips.net/video/kSuSlTW1PRo/видео.html
“What is happening?” “I didn’t know that a human female can make a sound like that....” Those are the realist reactions ever 🤣
i agree if she was a lay person but she is supposed to be a vocal coach so she can be surprised (as everybody would be when listening to Jinjer for the first time) but she should have been aware of the fact "that a human female can make a sound like that"
@@altohippiegabber Well, I think she's quite aware that the male vocal tract can produce fry/scream timbres. But it's rarer to find women that do it -- I'm not surprised she'd never heard anything like it. Besides this, she's a classical voice instructor; from my time at the conservatory, I can confirm that metal techniques are far from common in classical vocal pedagogy classes.