That is what privatising the railways does for us, years ago there would be a loco a lot nearer, you get GBRf locos in the yard at Banbury but I don't there was one there, plus I don't think you could use one to recue it Colin.
Oh dear Mike, I don't think they anticipated for 68014 to fail haha. Cracking shots and captures there! Glad you caught these! Superb action and variety! 68015 to the rescue haha. You did well there! Not everyday something like that happens. Excellent detailing and camera work! Great stuff! Top class! No faults at all! Well done! Great work! Highly enjoyable stuff! The Colas 70 was fantastic though! 70004 was good too! Very nice indeed! Loooooooooooooooved it! Really enjoyed, thanks for sharing! Take care, have an awesome weekend and all the best! Jamie
You could say I was in the right place at the right time to get this on film Jamie, I would rather it hadn't happened at I wanted to get the class 68s going north but that didn't happen with the locos on the front.
In the old days we always had a steamer ready for just this eventuality to rescue a new fangled Diesel class 33 or whatever good old Stanier 2.6.4 could pull a planet !!
Even pre-privatisation I’ve known plenty of instances where it’s taken hours to remove a failed train, generally if they can work around it (as they can here) there is no rush to get things moving again
I couldn't agree more - well said!!! In 1970 that would have been dealt with, using spare train crew & traction, within 20 minutes max. AND: there would have been someone readily available to couple. NOW: taxpayer is paying aggregate 38% more subsidy (Net) per fiscal year compared to taxcyear end 1979, out of line with GDP, for a crap dysfunctional railway that's the laughing stock of the world railwayadministrations. VERY VERY SAD.
In the old days say 60s there would be a standby rescue loco at a shed nearby never a long wait remember when a dmu failed near Peterborough and they sent a deltic to tow the dmu to Leicester
Like the way you started this comment David, well this is the second time in just over a week that a class 68 has failed David on the route. Will message you that info you wanted.
The other week, a 68 failed while going up Old Hill, everytime the driver applied power, the engine cut out. Eventually after well over an hour the loco struggled to Rowley regis and the train was put in the sidings. The spare 68 was then sent from Wembley to collect the train. Seems the 68s aren't behaving very good at the moment.
Well they’ve been pretty under-utilised for two years at this point most have just sat in sidings at Wembley etc so I imagine they’ve seized up and been under-maintained
Until they removed the down bay platform there was normally a rescue loco sat in it, would have been of use here. Freight trains are routed via platform 1 as there are loops further up, this also allows platform 2 to be worked in the up direction.
@@antman09ful1 Some trains are routed through platform 1 or the avoiding line on the other side of the station to allow other trains to pass them, even if the through lines are clear at the time they still run that way. It's to do with not messing up the timetable. It used to be quite common for a freight to crawl through the down loops while another train passed it. hope that helps.
Evening Mike from Angoulême central France 🇫🇷 on our way how from Spain 🇪🇸 for our overnight stopover after a 15h journey. So nothing better that relax watching one if tire videos 🤣 I’m too far from the Gare too look at any trans lol 😂 I see on Google earth the big yard is empty and looks delerict 😫 same again tomorrow via Calais Dover Irish ferry 🙄 We’ve put our Casa in Spain 🇪🇸 up for sale this week 🤔 Take care cheers Stevie.
Evening Stevie, well its 23.40 where you are so you may be in bed after that long drive today, well Stevie you have surprised my saying you are selling you place in Spain. I suppose if you don't get out much to use it you might as well sell it, you two have a safe journey home tomorrow. ATB Mike ps I too feel knackered after only three hours sleep last night.
Sad to see things like this. Some managers will say if it was a unit it would have been rescued quicker with more options of a rescue train around. And considering Chiltern are contemplating not to use the loco hauled stock anymore this will not help towards the final decision
What you have said mate I have to agree with, but if there was a survey I bet people would pick the 68 and stock to travel on, cheers Ben for taking a look.
Loco haulage is going to be around for quite a bit longer than originally planned as Chiltern have nothing suitable to replace them and nothing clears crowds quicker than Mk3 coaches!
Interesting footage here Sir, but as others have pointed out, its all down to privatisation with resources and Staff cut to the bone and also, most of the handy little refuges to keep stock in and multi purpose single owner (BR) sheds have also gone , all in the name of profit
And were BR famously brilliant at running the Railway, with Labour Governments putting their oar in? I don't think so. We may agree, that NR and the Rail Companies still have much work to do, but surely the Railway is miles better today, than it used to be. All that's needed now is the removal of outdated working practices.
An interesting session you had at one of my all time favourite stations Mike, is it me but have noticed a few failing just lately, they are such a photogenic loco, sound good and look bloody good! Where were you heading to? Enjoyed as always, regards Nick.
from what ive heard theyre not great, since theyre typical modern stuff, complicated, over-engineerd, all digital and built to extremly low tolerances. and as a result they require specialist maintainence so theyre not quick to fix either, unlike the rest of the DRS kit that can be fixed in a matter of hours
Chiltern came up with the best Mk IIIs ever built. When you compare their conversion to what GWR, Cross Country and Scotrail did (with sliding doors) it makes them look even better. And while corroded Mk IIIs were being fitted with sliding doors excellent Mk IVs were being scrapped ... 😏
How is this the fault of privatisation? Every build of rolling stock is incompatible with everything else on the system. That is a failure in government regulatory systems.
@@antman09ful1 I was caught in a similar incident in Sweden. It took two hours for a freight loco to arrive and another two hours to couple it to the train, with an improvised wire hawser. The train then proceeded at 30 mph as there were no brakes apart from those on the loco.
Doesn't look very chaotic...... ......just passing trains through 1 & 2 instead if 2 & 3 as normal which the new track layout is perfectly capable of handling....... ........you were probably held outside 20 mind due to temporary block because of personal on the track between platforms attaching the recovery loco!!!
There was nobody on the track when my train and other in front of mine as the rescue loco was holding all the trains up waiting to cross lines, because the southbound trains were using platform 2. Things got easier when the rescue loco crossed over lines Ian.
Another great video Mike, thanks for sharing. 3 hours to clear a failed train from Banbury is totally ridiculous.
Regards, Colin.
That is what privatising the railways does for us, years ago there would be a loco a lot nearer, you get GBRf locos in the yard at Banbury but I don't there was one there, plus I don't think you could use one to recue it Colin.
Not just a two minute job to prep the rescue at Wembley, find a driver and then get the loco up to Banbury.
Interesting video there Mike good that you were able to catch the events thanks for sharing mate
Well yes right place right time mate, cheers.
Excellent rail movie! Awesome iamges with trains and nice station! Good job, Mike! Thumbs Up
Best Regards from Romania
Andrew
Thank you very much Andrew.
Right place again!
Well done, very interesting 👏
Glad you enjoyed it mate. and thanks for your comment. Mike.
Nicely filmed at a location I haven't passed through for over 40 years.
Oh right Tim, that's a long time ago. Cheers.
Oops, still at least some things were still moving unlike my stretch of the WCML which grinds to a halt at the slightest problem :/ Nice footage!
Oh yes if something failed down the road from you on the two line section, its all stop I bet Phil, cheers for having a look. Mike.
Right place, right time, for a very enjoyable video. And as often is the case , more interesting than regular working
Pleased you enjoyed Andrew.
Oh dear Mike, I don't think they anticipated for 68014 to fail haha. Cracking shots and captures there! Glad you caught these! Superb action and variety! 68015 to the rescue haha. You did well there! Not everyday something like that happens. Excellent detailing and camera work! Great stuff! Top class! No faults at all! Well done! Great work! Highly enjoyable stuff! The Colas 70 was fantastic though! 70004 was good too! Very nice indeed! Loooooooooooooooved it! Really enjoyed, thanks for sharing! Take care, have an awesome weekend and all the best! Jamie
You could say I was in the right place at the right time to get this on film Jamie, I would rather it hadn't happened at I wanted to get the class 68s going north but that didn't happen with the locos on the front.
@@antman09ful1 You could, but you did well to get something unusual like this! Ahh yeah haha, typical!
Shame the 68 failed, I've been riding on a few of these lately and they're good fun. Great video nonetheless
They are the business for us enthusiasts mate.
In the old days we always had a steamer ready for just this eventuality to rescue a new fangled Diesel class 33 or whatever good old Stanier 2.6.4 could pull a planet !!
Well yes that all changed when everything was privatised. Cheers for your comment.
@@antman09ful1 It changed long before privatisation.
3 hours for a failed train that's the price of privitisation. Gone are the days of pinching a loco off the Banbury Bescot trip. Well done Mike 🤓 💙🦄
Very true that Tony.
Even pre-privatisation I’ve known plenty of instances where it’s taken hours to remove a failed train, generally if they can work around it (as they can here) there is no rush to get things moving again
I couldn't agree more - well said!!!
In 1970 that would have been dealt with, using spare train crew & traction, within 20 minutes max.
AND: there would have been someone readily available to couple.
NOW: taxpayer is paying aggregate 38% more subsidy (Net) per fiscal year compared to taxcyear end 1979, out of line with GDP, for a crap dysfunctional railway that's the laughing stock of the world railwayadministrations.
VERY VERY SAD.
Any loco in the area would have been pinched to get a Class 1 passenger train moving again.
Shame about the failure. Nice bit of filming whilst you were there however. 68014 was performing OK last week.
Something minor probably Paul.
In the old days say 60s there would be a standby rescue loco at a shed nearby never a long wait remember when a dmu failed near Peterborough and they sent a deltic to tow the dmu to Leicester
They were great days I think John when we had a railway for the public not the shareholders.
Thought this was one of dads, smilevideotrains trips with Chaos!! Its catching Mike!! Unusual for the 68 to get in failed situ
Like the way you started this comment David, well this is the second time in just over a week that a class 68 has failed David on the route.
Will message you that info you wanted.
The other week, a 68 failed while going up Old Hill, everytime the driver applied power, the engine cut out. Eventually after well over an hour the loco struggled to Rowley regis and the train was put in the sidings. The spare 68 was then sent from Wembley to collect the train. Seems the 68s aren't behaving very good at the moment.
Well they’ve been pretty under-utilised for two years at this point most have just sat in sidings at Wembley etc so I imagine they’ve seized up and been under-maintained
Thanks Stuart & Thomas for your comments on these 68 problems.
@@thomasthornton2002 nothing could be farther from the truth, they have been kept running in warm store, maintained & ready at a moments notice.
@@christopherhulse8385 I was just relaying what I’d been told but if you are more informed I’m not going to argue
Freights using platform one whilst the driver and possibly fitter couple the 68s up etc so the down line blocked for safety
That is the only reason I could think of Andy, H&Sssssssssssssssss
Until they removed the down bay platform there was normally a rescue loco sat in it, would have been of use here. Freight trains are routed via platform 1 as there are loops further up, this also allows platform 2 to be worked in the up direction.
Yes I know about the yard James, but when the train got moved why didn't the freight use platform 2 as they normally do.
@@antman09ful1 The loops cannot be accessed from platform 2, so if it's being held or needs a crew change it's routed through platform 1.
Yes I agree with you but the two freight I filmed went back onto the main line.
@@antman09ful1 Some trains are routed through platform 1 or the avoiding line on the other side of the station to allow other trains to pass them, even if the through lines are clear at the time they still run that way. It's to do with not messing up the timetable. It used to be quite common for a freight to crawl through the down loops while another train passed it. hope that helps.
Cheers James.
Great video Mike👍
Thanks ENC for taking a look at my latest upload. Mike.
nice mix ,.Interesting captures
Right place right time Keith, shame it happened.
Good workings Mike, despite the 68.
Yeah David I feel we are getting a lot of locos breaking down more these days.
@@antman09ful1 probably not built to last like the old stuff.
What's that knocking noise that you can hear from about 4:48 ?
Yes its a sound I like.
Great video
Thanks again for your interest.
Breakdowns are inevitable and always cause problems in the most awkward of places 😕
Yes Keith we had another on the same line today at Hatton.
Very good video!
Thank you very much for watching.
Hi Mike. Great video. Did you catch the 3 drags from York to Leeds by the class 37?
No Julian I didn't.
Good video Mike :)
Thanks Simon.
Evening Mike from Angoulême central France 🇫🇷 on our way how from Spain 🇪🇸 for our overnight stopover after a 15h journey. So nothing better that relax watching one if tire videos 🤣 I’m too far from the Gare too look at any trans lol 😂 I see on Google earth the big yard is empty and looks delerict 😫 same again tomorrow via Calais Dover Irish ferry 🙄 We’ve put our Casa in Spain 🇪🇸 up for sale this week 🤔 Take care cheers Stevie.
Evening Stevie, well its 23.40 where you are so you may be in bed after that long drive today, well Stevie you have surprised my saying you are selling you place in Spain.
I suppose if you don't get out much to use it you might as well sell it, you two have a safe journey home tomorrow. ATB Mike
ps I too feel knackered after only three hours sleep last night.
Sad to see things like this. Some managers will say if it was a unit it would have been rescued quicker with more options of a rescue train around. And considering Chiltern are contemplating not to use the loco hauled stock anymore this will not help towards the final decision
What you have said mate I have to agree with, but if there was a survey I bet people would pick the 68 and stock to travel on, cheers Ben for taking a look.
@@antman09ful1 couldn't agree more Mike. I would say that's the case with all loco hauled coaching stock v units
Loco haulage is going to be around for quite a bit longer than originally planned as Chiltern have nothing suitable to replace them and nothing clears crowds quicker than Mk3 coaches!
@@christopherhulse8385 great to hear. Like Mike said the public seem to enjoy the experience more as well
Great video 😎👍🏽 I thought 68’s were bulletproof and very rarely failed? 😯
Oh I don't know about that EJC 71, well it was something to get off the train for, then I went for a curry.
@@antman09ful1 a great plan indeed 🤣👍🏽🍺
1:50 what I don't get, is why is there a 68 attached to what is a basically a control/power car sames like a waste of fuel
The 68 on the back had failed, I explained everything in the description Martin.
excellent shots 👍can't believe it took 3 hours to move it
Me neither, as it shouldn't on paper Barry. Probably no spare driver down at Wembley depot.
Awesome video friend ❤️ 🇮🇳
Thanks for watching my video.
Hi the 68 finding hard pulling rake hard on the bend blowing smoke few dead tons from the other loco behind them coaches kev
Thanks for watching mate.
where was the stand by loco normally at rugby?
Different company Norman at Rugby, thanks for comment.
@@antman09ful1 your welcome
Was the train going to glasgow by any chance
No John London Marylebone.
Freight trains using 1, are the other lines blocked whilst the other 68 is coupled to the train?
No Mark, as I said in the video.
Like 17 beautiful video, greetings 🚂👍🙋♂️
OK thank you.
Interesting footage here Sir, but as others have pointed out, its all down to privatisation with resources and Staff cut to the bone and also, most of the handy little refuges to keep stock in and multi purpose single owner (BR) sheds have also gone , all in the name of profit
Yes you are also right with all you have said, thanks for your interest in my latest video mate. ATB Mike.
And were BR famously brilliant at running the Railway, with Labour Governments putting their oar in? I don't think so. We may agree, that NR and the Rail Companies still have much work to do, but surely the Railway is miles better today, than it used to be. All that's needed now is the removal of outdated working practices.
Are you jinxing places Mike?
Don't know Richard, another Shed failed on the same line today and I was at home. Cheers Mike.
Yeah.
When was this. And 😭😭😭😭😭 why cat 14 Glad your sister came to the rescue. Well done Mike
Date in description Michael.
An interesting session you had at one of my all time favourite stations Mike, is it me but have noticed a few failing just lately, they are such a photogenic loco, sound good and look bloody good! Where were you heading to? Enjoyed as always, regards Nick.
Yes Nick there has been two class 68s failing on this service in the last few week, I was heading home to have a curry at my local India restaurant.
@@antman09ful1 damn, sorry i asked haha, go on what did you order?
I always have a chicken Curry with extra sauce and garlic rice Nick.
How reliable are the Class 68s?
Well I can't tell you that Ian as I'm not involved with this company, just I do know there has been two failures in just a few weeks.
@@antman09ful1 Okay cheers!
from what ive heard theyre not great, since theyre typical modern stuff, complicated, over-engineerd, all digital and built to extremly low tolerances. and as a result they require specialist maintainence so theyre not quick to fix either, unlike the rest of the DRS kit that can be fixed in a matter of hours
@@Trainman10715 Somebody should go on down to the Toton Depot and fix all the Class 60s and get them to pull the train.
What's the problem with it
Don't know Stephen.
Just because you can't get it, it doesn't mean something's in chaos. Not every aspect of traffic management is shared with the travelling public.
Ok.
hello Mike. thats made my day, a 68 conked out, should have been a cl 40 on the front,ghastly locos and sound like my vacum cleaner
What a daft comment.
That would have been a brilliant sight Peter.
Steve we are free to Say what our felling are about certain things.
@@antman09ful1 and that is exactly what I just did!
I feel bad for the silver set 😢
Do you.
@@antman09ful1 yes I do
Chiltern came up with the best Mk IIIs ever built. When you compare their conversion to what GWR, Cross Country and Scotrail did (with sliding doors) it makes them look even better.
And while corroded Mk IIIs were being fitted with sliding doors excellent Mk IVs were being scrapped ... 😏
Very true what you say, we can't get our heads around what happens on our railways can we. Cheers for checking out my video.
So no chaos, just the every day issues caused by a train failure.
Well it does happen a lot these days I agree.
How is this the fault of privatisation? Every build of rolling stock is incompatible with everything else on the system. That is a failure in government regulatory systems.
Well in the BR days any freight loco in the area would have moved it a lot sooner. Thank you for your comment.
@@antman09ful1 For many decades all the stock had compatible coupling and braking systems.
@@antman09ful1 I was caught in a similar incident in Sweden. It took two hours for a freight loco to arrive and another two hours to couple it to the train, with an improvised wire hawser. The train then proceeded at 30 mph as there were no brakes apart from those on the loco.
Rescue 68 looks a bit claggy too
Yes it was a bit when departing, well spotted Stuart.
Flail!!!
Something else where Britain leads the world... obviously
Possibly right.
This is why you don’t send diesels to do a steam engine’s job. A Stanier Pacific never would have failed like this.
Steam engines do fail. years ago we had recue locos about the railway.
LOL CHAOS in caps , where was the chaos ? You should work for Sky news with that over the top headline
Its a word I used as I was involved.
whatever 68015 is it looks cool
68015 does work this route.
@@antman09ful1 idk what train it is
Doesn't look very chaotic......
......just passing trains through 1 & 2 instead if 2 & 3 as normal which the new track layout is perfectly capable of handling.......
........you were probably held outside 20 mind due to temporary block because of personal on the track between platforms attaching the recovery loco!!!
There was nobody on the track when my train and other in front of mine as the rescue loco was holding all the trains up waiting to cross lines, because the southbound trains were using platform 2.
Things got easier when the rescue loco crossed over lines Ian.
@@antman09ful1 Well.......there'll have been someone down there to prep the train for Rescue Recovery......
......its not automatic!
To any 't's in Southampton!
Did I make a mistake David.
@@antman09ful1 - Yes at 0.32 4M36 Southhampton West Docks - Trafford Park. One to many 'h''s in Southampton.
Oh yes I did. Cheers for spotting that David.