Lost TRACTION...what was I THINKING?! | Aprilia RS660
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Lost TRACTION...what was I THINKING?! | Aprilia RS660 @SK_XIII
First ride after 2.5 weeks of straight rain, floods, and mudslides. The signs were there...they were telling me to slow down...In today's video, I share my thoughts on my decision making process. Of course while riding I didn't have the time to think about this in depth, hence why I made the video. It is a way for me to think back, share the experience, and hear your thoughts on how you would have handled the situation or your perspective, to ultimately continue to grow as a rider. It would have been WORSE if I was going faster.
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Yo broooo. You rode that out pretty well!! Good work staying calm and not panic breaking. I ride here in India and as you may know or have seen. We have pretty bad roads. Full of dust, cow dung and other stuff. In my opinion you handled that pretty well staying upright and releasing throttle. In my experience when there's gravel on the road and especially along the whole corner, I let off the throttle and ride it sort of like a dirt bike. (sitting upright with my butt to the front of the seat as much as i can). This helps to put the weight sort of in the middle and a little on the front so it wont wash out [as long as you're not leaning] I've learnt this and transitioned this "skill" from mountain biking. It works for me but different bike ergonamics work differently. As long as you're straight up and weight is not biased to one wheel only, you should be fine. Cheers!! Ride safe!!
Appreciate the insight! I have high respect for you riders out there brotha...those conditions look crazy to me 🤣 Every time I visit India, I don't know how people ride in all that traffic and road hazards. My goal when riding through this was to maintain as much of an upright position as possible. The weight shift and moving the core up front is a good idea! Will keep it mind for next time. Cheers! 🙏
always predict the amount of traction you are going to have or not have... it's part of being a successful motorcyclist... even when you have fancy traction control & anti-lock brakes... there are always situations where the TC & ABS may not react favorably and your momentum will result in a fall or collision or leaving the roadway... when you get more comfortable with the "character" of your bike and settings you may be able to explore traction limits more successfully together...
Very true! I do get a little nervous on dirt roads because of that. Was thinking about exploring dirt bikes in the future so I can get a feel for poor traction riding
@@SK_XIII even riding mountain bikes (pedal bikes) helps with predicting traction and how the bike reacts to a little slip and slide!
@@gmc3578 that's a much easier alternative to try actually!
I’m a new rider and dealing with filthy country roads here in the UK right now. I’ve had several wobbles at the back end this week from gravel and mud. Personally I’d have moved over to the gravel free are nearer the yellow line and hoped oncoming traffic would stay their side.
Ooof can't imagine what roads out in the UK are like. You guys get a lot more rain too. Thanks for sharing and ride safe out there mate!
Hey, love your videos. What i saw was you were in the shadowed road where is wet due to weather condition, and you were riding on the center of it. On the center of the road; mud, dirt and dust kinda things piles up. It directly effects your ss tires with that power on the wheels.
I dont ride on the center of the road, i ride on the tire line. It is more safe and clean than center.
Even when im driving im trying to slow down and act slowly on the newly wet roads, because the dust on the road turns mud with first wet condition. One of the most dangerous situation for bikes.
Appreciate the insight mate! I 100% agree with you and generally ride on the tire patches as well. I done goofed this time around 😅
Wait, all this talk about making decisions while riding? I thought all I needed to know was Slow, Look, Press and Roll?? ;-)
Seriously, though, I think this is a great place to talk about trail braking. If you are already on the brakes, you can just add a little squeeze to slow you down as much as possible before you hit that patch of dirt. Then maybe while breaking go to the inside a little before getting to the dirt so that you can straighten up going through the dirt without going wide.
🤣🤣🤣Great suggestion! Looking back going over the dirt on the inside would be safer than gravel. I started practicing trail braking this past summer, gotta keep at it so I can be more consistent
Having dirt and gravel washed out into the road is pretty common along certain parts of the roads I ride after heavier rain.
Certain spots are notorious for it.
Good that you were already aware of this.
Nice to be able to ride in sunny weather this time of year, too, as that's not until April, usually, around here.
For me:
Once I realized what I was heading toward, I'd use some brake before I actually got to the dirt in order to shed some speed to make the bike more maneuverable.
Same idea as why you wouldn't run through a series of orange cones at 120 mph - the higher the speed, the less likely to make tight maneuvers.
Once the corner speed was set, I'd probably go to the left of the dirt as the pavement looked cleanest over there.
Of course, I'd stay off the double yellow line and keep in my lane, as usual.
I'd use trailing throttle, or, just enough throttle to maintain speed without accelerating or decelerating.
Just to keep the bike as neutral as possible without any sudden inputs or movements.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I just read someone else's comment down below about throttle management and how it impacts traction. I was hoping people would shed some light on this. I definitely don't ride when it is wet or after storms because of these road hazards, so definitely not as comfortable in those environments. Glad I did though...since it ultimately gives me the experience and helps me be better prepared for next time. Super helpful brotha!
You stayed in your lane and didn't fall down, so seems to me like you handle it OK. A suggestion that I would make is to have the throttle gently open at the moment you pass over the gravel. YZETc made a similar suggestion in his post below. If you pass over gravel in a turn with the throttle off, the front will slide a lot (as your video shows). Obviously if you passed over the gravel with aggressive throttle, the rear would slide a lot. Logic would tell us there might be a sweet spot between those two extremes. If you pass over the gravel with gentle throttle, enough to maintain speed or maybe even very slightly accelerating, the load and the traction will be balanced between the two tires, so both tires will slide less, will slide evenly, the bike will have the most stability, will be the least upset by the gravel, and the most ability to recover afterwards. You will overall have by far the best chance of getting through the surface hazard without incident. Once you get a feel for using the throttle to balance the front-to-rear traction, with practice you can even get comfortable with passing over gravel, as long as your lean angle isn't too severe. Other things to focus on in these tense moments would be to stay loose on the bars and try to force yourself to look around the turn.
Thanks for sharing this mate! I was hoping someone had some insight in regards to the throttle management and how it impacts grip. This is super helpful!
idk if you remember me, but I think I commented in your video a waaaaaaay back. Sadly, I couldn't remember your channel name, glad I found it again. First of all glad your safe and second, what road is this? is this the back road to go to gilroy? hw9 entrance is few mins away from me hahaha.
Appreciate you finding your way back mate! 😂 You already know, it's the Uvas reservoir area...so the backroads from San Jose to Gilroy
SKXIII, what’s up my brother!! First off I want to say thank God you’re still with us and you made it through that very scary situation. I think you handled it to the best of your ability with the timeframe that you had to react. I now for what I normally do is I either stay left or right of the lane I don’t stay in the middle too often due to oil and debris from other vehicles and feel that the tires that go over the same area time and time again kind of spread that out and move it around and lesson in that area so I feel a little bit safer. In your situation as you said the right side looked a little bit more sandy or more gravel so you went with your gut to stay in the middle. I probably would’ve went to the left side of the same lane that you’re riding in and hold it straight and upright as possible. Hopefully this helps for the future. Thanks for the video. Good insight to help others across-the-board again glad to see you’re ok and there was no injuries or damage to that beautiful bike. Ride safe brother talk soon.
Appreciate the feedback and support brotha! Definitely wanted to share the video so I can hear other peoples thoughts on what they would have done so I can be better prepared for the next time 🙏
first of all you should find your place on the road: you usually ride in the middle of your side, that's a good place for dry weather and clean tarmac, but after rain this place contains all surround dirt. so if you see weather conditions like this you should ride on the left car wheels side. this is my own experience.
Absolutely agree! i've made that change in my riding after this experience lol!
I would stick to the area of the road where tyre tracks usually are instead of the centre of the lane where there are loose debris.
Good point mate! that is usually how I ride too, but my oversight here since I was trying to avoid the wet spots on the road too
Go to So Cal super moto school you are a new rider and need to take more classes but just my two cents
Classes for anything would help, but seat time is also important. Some advanced riding skills would help in these situations, can't deny that :D
Estoy viendo el video mas noob de la historia del motociclismo y además ni se entiende lo qeu quiere decir a veces y encima es un derrape tonto que de esos de esos se tiene todos los dias