Pilot Reacts to the Odyssey Mission Trailer | Elite Dangerous
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- Today, Pilot tries his best to stay positive. While still being objective and constructive. And then he tells it like it is. Today we breakdown the Elite Odyssey Mission Trailer shown off my FDev.
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ED community for years: can we have an ingame tool to change our HUD colors?
FDev: Here's space toilets and a random glass flair effect.
Because they are waiting for their children to grow up and go to university and then doing so, otherwise they will be unemployed!
They dont even give us that. Wheres my minimalist sidey airplane toilet damnit.
About the sneaking thing: I _think_ it was because while they have a clean record, they are carrying illegal tools/items, and they don't want the guards to notice.
Tbh I think it’s because stealth doesn’t work properly yet so they were playing make-believe and there was no real threat until they trespassed.
@@jonr4651 or that, I was just repeating what I heard somewhere else.
@@jonr4651 From the looks of it, there was no real threat AFTER they trespassed either.
@@JimPekarek 😂 yup.
It's the same as the smuggling that we've already got. The players reputation's not low enough to warrant the guards to go out of their way to perform a scan, but they will still scan the player if they get close enough. So they're just keeping their distance.
Why they're pretending to tactically hide behind boxes and everything is anyone's guess. You'd think moving around like this would arouse more suspicion, so just normal social distancing would be enough.
So a few things:
- Point defenses can't kill skimmers and won't shoot them. They WILL shoot down missile volleys from the skimmers but against a person on foot I suspect the skimmer's main laser/plasma weapon is more than lethal. (EDIT: Apparently not. They should be, though.)
- Keep in mind that these outposts are going to be procedurally generated by the galaxy forge just like everything else besides Sol and a few lore places. Meaning they have to be super generic so they can fit in a wide variety of places. Also remember that we're in a frontier outpost in a space future. Lore-wise, this place was not custom made with architects and land permits, it was plopped down by low-level engineers by connecting a bunch of mass produced prefab units together. It thus makes both game sense and lore sense that it's "not interesting."
- 7:23 How is that not stealing? And how did THAT not aggro the skimmer even if their presence doesn't? I don't see a sign on the medical supplies that says "free, take one." Normally video games avoid this issue by placing them in hostile territory so, naturally, it's not a big deal if you steal them because you're killing the inhabitants anyway. Since this is a neutral outpost, though, then this is theft, no?
- I understand WYSIWYG from when I learned HTML at age 12, but there's a fine line between judging what's presented and ignoring the fact that what's presented is absolutely an Alpha. Perhaps some game devs can comment on this but my understanding is you generally make "greybox" assets, which have either no textures or very minimalist textures, then you place them in the game world, THEN you polish them with high quality textures once you can actually see them in-engine. Again, if this is wrong, some game dev feel free to chime in, but assuming it's right, then I would not expect good texture quality right now, and bringing it up feels...mildly dickish.
- As someone who primarily does exploration and wants all the gadgets, I am happy to see they took the Halo approach to firearm design. (i.e. the pistol being the best gun.) But even though I love it personally, I'll agree it's an odd design choice when you see it.
- It is a Goliath. Skimmers have 2 turbofans. Goliaths have 4. It is absolutely a Goliath. But yes, they should be very dead. Even with the PDs handling the missiles, the main laser/plasma weapons on a Goliath will shred a non-engineered space ship. A human on foot should be almost instakilled by them.
Personally, I am quite impressed. I still believe that Elite and Star Citizen are more or less direct competitors, and while Star Citizen's FPS gameplay has more depth than this, it's also janky as hell. Every death I've suffered doing FPS stuff in Star Citizen was the game's fault, and I say that as someone who freely admits to being a complete trash FPS gamer. Despite being Alpha (too), this was smooth as silk. I can already tell that I am 100% going to enjoy FPS gameplay in Elite more than I do in Star Citizen.
That said, I still can't sit in the front of my Anaconda and look out that big beautiful bay window at the front, sipping a cup of coffee and watching Sag A* do its thing. I'm still glued to the bridge. And for me, that's the biggest failing of Odyssey. Walkable ship interiors was my #1 most wanted feature and it got axed immediately. For that, Odyssey will always be second fiddle overall to Star Citizen, for me.
But the FPS stuff looks very solid. Guess I won't be leaving either game any time soon.
You have no idea this is a scripted and edited playthrough...you are falling for a marketing tool commander. Be smarter than that.
@@elitegamer8351 imagine already being a fan of the game and complaining about marketing tools...
@@elitegamer8351 In my experience, when someone yells "Don't be a sheep!" at you and runs off, it literally never causes them to educate themselves or become better informed. Perhaps you'd like to enlighten us as to what, exactly, out of my eight pretty damn well explained points you think is me "falling for a marketing tool" precisely?
Was it the part where I pointed out the strange lack of theft mechanics, or the part where I point blank said that the lack of walkable ship interiors meant this game was inferior to Star Citizen in at least one way? Or maybe it was the part where I agreed that a damn Goliath should be more than a match for a single dude in a space suit?
All I did in FDev's defense was simply point out that you don't usually see finished, polished 4k textures in "Alpha" footage. In fact, when was the last time we DID see finished 4k textures in Alpha footage? Gee that'd have to be...the Cyberpunk 2077 Demo at E3 in 2018, I guess? Boy that turned out to be such an accurate yardstick to measure the game by, didn't it! (Sarcasm, just in case it wasn't blatantly obvious.)
tl;dr I wasn't somehow biased in my original comment. I gave them the benefit of the doubt that they have not 100% polished the textures in ALPHA. Other than that, I was actually mostly skeptical and critical, and unlike you I EXPLAINED why I felt that way. You say I have "no idea" but give as much details as the textures we see above. Go troll commenters in one of Yamiks' videos. (Or don't. Yamiks doesn't deserve you either.)
@@austinm5630 first off it’s common knowledge that this footage is comprised of multiple play attempts at the same mission. Not even going into the things we saw that were obviously a bit jank in this demonstration. It is not at all a stretch to assume that the multiple attempts are covering up current game issues. That is because this sort of demo is a marketing tool by definition. It is not a demonstration of game stability. Furthermore if you write a novel every time you reply to a comment don’t be surprised if people don’t touch on every detail and focus on a general point.
You're right about the "greybox" assets. It's to give the developer (sometimes the player if they're playtesting) an idea of what is going to be there. To be like "I'm just judging it on what's there" and calling it shit is like saying "this is a shit final paper" when you're at the end of refining the draft. All the stuff is there but it just needs to be slightly refined. In this case, the stuff that's here (excluding the running animations cus that shit kinda bad) really isn't that bad looking (I don't really know what has been going on behind the scenes at fdev though). Most of the stuff in this video seems really nitpicky and comes off asshole-ish. Also, he hasn't seen moon dust before smh.
Yeah, FDev should show what real community gatherings will be like. A bunch of degenerates arguing about Aisling Duvals feet.
if you want a morbid chuckle check out the comment section under her elite wiki entry.
This is the only hearted comment. You deserve it.
@@Honsanmai lol. I just did.
That's kinda an interesting topic...
Im really hoping they adjust the way you walk on the various gravities on planets. low gravity long stride almost like hopping and heavy gravity harder to move around
Haven't they said you won't be able to walk on high gravity planets anyway?
What I'd like to know is, if you wouldn't be able to get up and walk on a 9.7G planet, how is it already possible to leave your seat to climb into an SRV? I'm pretty sure that same gravity that prevents you from walking would also affect you inside your ship.
@@Galerak1 i know, right? Since there isn't any form of "magical" gravity generation in Elite (like star wars and stuff) it doesn't really make sense
You make it sound so simple. But they would need to do low gravity motion capture, and high gravity motion capture. Even if they could do that half-assed (i.e. without expensive balloon rigs and weight suits), it's 3x the cost. And no other game has ever done it, so it's all new motion capture - they'd need to rent studios & motion capture equipment. You're talking millions of dollars. How much do you want to pay for Odyssey - $80? $100? More? Sometimes I think players have no concept of the costs involved.
@@Galerak1 to my understanding you're never actually in the srv. You merely use telepresence to control it. The long running joke is we were the people of raxxla who can control machines with our minds all along.
@@Galerak1 My theory? The Frame Shift Drive is the one that allows that, it can seemingly bend the space around the ship to propel it forwards in low wake and high wake, why couldn't it help you walk inside your ship normally?
It just looks "good enough" to me to be honest, even if it would be the finished product. I just actually hate them for not doing ship interiors yet, just let me walk around my freaking cockpit ;-;
Cargo crates everywhere, yet not a single standard cargo cannister we've hauled every commodity in for years
So there's info on this setup that's needed for context. They are allied with the base so this is why no interaction initially when they went in...no real need for the sneaking, no need for heightened alert from guards because they're actually allowed to be there -- this is why the Chieftan could land that close.
So they ruined their setup by not prepping the audience and adding the hammy chatter.
If that's the case then all in all the "stealth" part of this mission, outside the settlement's interiors, was pretty much unneeded.
I'd say that's somewhat of a good thing because what we've seen isn't the actual stealth the devs are planning for Odissey
@@StreamyDenny They had an illegal tool for bypassing security clearance, so they tried to not get scanned by npc
i just really wish they had showed something not combat
If I were putting money on it I’d wager they don’t even have gameplay ready that’s non-combat. They literally did a whole feature on “first footfall” which just shows just how broke they are for content.
That won’t happen, to be honest.
When they added Thargoids they said that how we treat the Thargoids will determine the future of the game. We could only interact with them by shooting. We had nothing else to do to or with them other than just watch them and we still don’t. Mile wide inch deep is the whole gig.
Exploration in the ships isn’t very fleshed out and in the SRV it’s less so. There’s no salvage in this game really. Mining is click and hold, there’s no racing, and trading on foot doesn’t make sense. Those are all of the roles aside from pirating but I’m guessing pickpocketing isn’t a thing, so Odyssey is probably just an FPS DLC for the next year to be completely honest.
@@Anthony-fk2zu i mean deep core mining is more fun than laser mining but yeah. I just wish you could explore the interior of guardian ruins on foot with a fucking tricorder or something but i'm a nerd
@@litigation_jackson The only thing is that it took a long time for mining to get fleshed out to where it is now.
@@Anthony-fk2zu Yup but it happened eventually. Ah well at least we'll have some atmospheric landings and updated planetary tech which is gonna be neat. And i'm excited to put a bunch of dumbfire missiles on a ship and just CAS the infantry conflict zones that you know they're setting up
The Pilot is honest and sincere and I appreciate that.
Could be both, but yapping on about "I know this is alpha but i hate it because i think this is what the end product is." To Pilot: just drop it at "i know it's alpha" and wait because you know nothing about production.
"Point out the good bits too!"
"OK!"
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About the pistol, perhaps that NPC had a less engineered shield than the others. 🔫
Or maybe that pistol was engineered while the rifle just wasn't?
What if the guy with the pistol was higher ranked as the one with the rifle?
What mission difficulty was it actually? Many questions
@@hobbtimus exactly!
I honestly don't mind if things like animations are a bit jank if there's fun gameplay. I just feel elite needed depth to the professions that existed and I hope this doesn't feel like an incomplete appendage being stapled on.
I watch this BECAUSE, in my opinion, you are super critical. I dont agree most of the time and it feel you are overly critical at point. Thats why I love your content though. It shows how much you care about this, how much you want the best product that can be given.
Great review.
“It’s not frozen, I’ve just paused it”
Idk why... but I laughed so hard when that was said....lmao!!!!!
100% agree with Pilot. Rifle shots wet noodles, I really hated the rifle fire, no impact what so ever.
On the note of criticizing - I've preordered Odyssey, and I still will play it no matter what, and I still can have my opinion on what I see
I also feel that the weapons were light. I feel that it's because they are laser weapons. If they add some ballistic weapons, the punch could be there. Ive got faith in the audio designers.
Yours is the most honest look I've seen so far from the community. Your criticisms were fair.
D2EA does a pretty balanced look too
For me, this is what I expected from Odyssey. Fdev is keeping the minimum system requirements the same, these settlements have 26ish different types and have to be procedurally generated across billions of planets and changes states according to the BGS. The fact that the NPCs didn't react to them was because they are not wanted and the "sneaking" was just role playing obviously. I didn't particularly want space legs from this DLC, but I dig it.
You are one of the few intelligent people left, be happy and proud of yourself
I'm not really interested to do FPS things in my space game. I want to walk around in my ship and on stations but I have no interest in pew-pewing.
1000% There's thousands of FPS games out there. There's only one galaxy-spanning spaceship game. I don't play Elite to run around in circles and shoot people in the face.
A rapid fire held pulse laser, is now a sniper rifle everyone.
That's all you got from the whole video?
@@elitegamer8351 Obviously not, but that was what I decided to comment. That's all you got from my comment?
I actually really like it, even though I am probably in minority :-D even if it would be just the planets with atmosphere, I will probably buy it :-D
Me too. I don't like the FPS genre at all, but this looks "good enough" for me. I'll do a few missions, but will mainly concentrate on the new planetary tech.
@@wileywilson yup, even if the gameplay would be mediocre, I am still really excited about it 😃
I'm just happy we'll finally get to walk around. A lot of complaints but I see a lot more "gameplay" here than Star Citizen ground gameplay.
I would say you are actually in the majority that really like it. It's the minority that dislike it. Just the minority that hate it always are the most vocal because people that like it have no reason to complain and post about it
The reason they're able to run around but are still being stealthy, is because the guards scan you if you get too close, and they're carrying something they shouldn't be.
The guard at the beginning doesn't turn around or hear them because there's a thin atmosphere on the planet and they're also wearing helmets..
There's logic behind a lot of the stuff in the video and they discuss it after.
This makes no sense. Either the guards were actively looking for illegal items, or they weren't.
If they were, they would've been waiting for these guys at the gate because it's kinda hard to miss a giant spaceship dropping off two randoms right next to your settlement and then doing a low flyover.
If they weren't, what's the point of being stealthy? Just act normal and walk right in but keep your distance. The guards aren't going to scan you unless they have a reason to, or if you get close enough for their sensors to auto-scan you, in which case you'd get caught anyway because sneaking doesn't magically make your equipment invisible to their sensors.
Doesn’t feel like there is a lot of weight behind those shots
Yeah my thoughts exactly. I said earlier that they seem like they sound and handle like sci-fi toys you can buy for your kids at Walmart, that make laser noises and light up. Theres no venting or anything seen on the weapons either when reloading, but thats more of a petty nitpick as I don't actually know lore wise how the weapons function or through what mechanics.
Edit: Rewatching the combat, I also wanna add how obviously the AI are incredibly bad, standing in the open and sometimes not even firing. The combat also doesn't even seem that intense, but at the same time its just a basic combat encounter with only laser weapons, im sure grenades and other heavier weapons might possibly make it more intense. But as it stands, it looks to me like a game of "Nuh-uh, I totally hit you!"
@@midnightrose23 and less hp. Why even people are as thought as ships?!
They're laser weapons...
@@LemonMan91 Ok? They sound like toys
@@midnightrose23 I'm sorry, but a more powerful laser doesn't add recoil. It's a laser
The pistol is likely set up to take shields down faster than health. They did mention that different weapons do more or less damage to health or shields. As for balancing it makes sense to make the burst pistol do more damage per shot than the auto rifle (not a sniper rifle).
The whole thing looks a bit naf. Hopefully its just a pre-alpha thing. Otherwise I'd question the decision to do an FPS more than I already dol.
I think people having their own personal shield generators and glowing bright blue is really silly
Frankly I hate the concept of shields full stop. Shields only serve to take the tension and risk out of an engagement. As far as first person shooters go, I'd much rather one bullet in a critical spot just kill you, or getting shot in the leg or arm make you start limping and bleeding out. Fighting fewer enemies but making them more scary > fighting hordes of mooks.
i'm not sure if the devs have thought of this or are planning to put this in odyssey but it wouldve been more helpful for the pilot to drop an empty SRV at low altitiude and give them covering fire while the other two mad their escape in said SRV.
The mission has no creativity... Can you imagine the Ship just land in front of the outpost and they pretend to be sneaky in an open area hahahahha..... If I was the director of this gameplay .... The Ship should have landed a little bit far from the Outpost and deploy the SRV so the guys will drove to the nearest area and walk into the outpost to do their mission and ride back to the ship while the skimmers are shooting them as they escape.
Good and honest assessment. I observed the same things you did, so I'm glad it's not just me. I also noticed the HUD had too much contrast (too dark), so I hope they give a setting to make it more opaque.
Yeah Combat should be Like arma its a space Simulator afterall the Combat Just Looks Like a new CoD game
Honestly this isn't impressive at all to me
OK, I'm in the pipe five by five, rodger wilco over, cover my ass with pellets I'm goin' in guys, let's get after it *bites down on rubber cigar*
On the running aspect it reminded me of the animation for the characters in Gundam Operation 2 the Free to play Gundam game on PS4
This whole "pre-alpha" thing is bullshit. The expansion is supposedly being released in (at most) 3 months. The idea that a game can go from pre-alpha to release in 3 months is complete nonsense. Either this game is in late beta, or it won't be released anywhere even close to June.
The developers are saying it's pre-alpha because they know it's awful, and they are hoping for a miracle to get it ready by June. That miracle is not going to happen. This game will either be released as a bug-ridden nightmare, or it will be delayed until Q4. I hope the latter, because if it's the former, it means Frontier are in financial difficulties.
I love how the gun damage thing can be explained now
Nice of you to say that your opinion shouldn't be the end-all be-all of how others ought to feel about the preview. I know it feels like something that shouldn't be said, but sometimes folks need to hear that if they hinge their enjoyment on the whims of "influencers." Even if myself and the people I play with seem to be the only ones eager for Odyssey most of the time, we're still going to look forward to it.
Less than 10% of the people who watched this made it to that point in the video. And of 168 comments, you're the only one to acknowledge it.
But yeah, I had to say it.
Thanks
Also they did say this gameplay was stitched together from a few different play through’s
I wasn’t impressed either as long as i can leave my ship I’ll be satisfied.
i think thats not the sniper rifle, its laser rifle and i assume its main usage is chewing through shields, then i think you need to change weapon for more appropriate to penetrate suit/body of target. But Yeah, that pistol is something else...
And Goliath probably couldn't hit them.
Need to get rid of the auto docking computer as a mod and integrate that plus the auto land as a standard option on every ship that CMDRs can either leave active or disable as we currently have with flight assist...hopefully this auto land is the first step towards that? :-/
I agree with most of your points, but the pistol doesn't do more damage, you see him shoot guards with it later and it clearly does less. He just used it against unarmored unsheilded npcs in the power room, then the guy with the rifle opens up on armored, shielded targets.
This just gives us alpha gamers a checklist to look out for
Exactly. I am gonna write tons of reports on fps mechanics once alpha drops. Basically space sims and fps are my fav types of games, so it would be great if ED can check both boxes for me. So I will be very critical about TTK in Odyssey, when playing alpha
I'm excited for the potential this shows. It'll need major tweaks to the physics and far better AI and mission scripting to really work
Regarding the 8:00 mark, I really hope it is optimized before it is aesthetically pleasing. Too many games look great but require nasa computers, and I hate that.
Fdev wanted the game to have the exact same system requirements as the current game. So that will be part of the reason why. Too many spoiled thinking people complaining.
Well, still some things to polish, but for the first attempt to include such gameplay to Elite, I think it looks pretty neat. I'm sure it will take half a year even after release until it works really well, but for the start it's at least a lot of new stuff they give to us.
I’d have honestly taken ship interiors over even being able to walk on any planets. This looks so bland and generic that I have a hard time justifying the $40 they want for it. What the hell were you thinking, Frontier???
I’ll give the 40 bucks only for new planetary tech and social hubs.
@Fred C absolutely agreed , I tested Star Citizen and can confirm, ships interiors are cool for the first hours but doesn’t bring any gameplay. However new planets and social hubs where I can finally see my friends I’ve been played with for years and have a beer with them before killing goids is enough for me. Just my opinion tho 😉
I'd agree. Tho for me the bad graphics are not nearly as important as the technical stuff:
- the AI is terrible (aiming, movement, visbility to player?)
- the engineering grind will be probably super painful - aswell as engineered attachements cannot be switched? What?
.. the graphics doesn't bother me, they get old the fastest while the good gamedesign last almost forever. (look at Valheim/Portal/Minecraft .. xD)
ED players for years: "can we get more content for space exploration and a laundry list of other tings that would be nice to have?"
FDev: "Sure, another Counterstrike clone it is, along with space legs but you still can't walk inside your own ship!"
For info skimmers are anti-SRV, not accurate against personnel. In game ships can't target SRV's or skimmers accurately either. Is "sphere of combat" design against OP scale weps.
I'm not that excited but I preorder, I want to give my feedback and may improve the game as much I can with my opinion. But info from Devs are bad, like you could walk only around certain outpost, no walk inside ships or Carriers(not even in their mind ever). Rest of the comments talk for themself.
Just my take not sure if its true. But I believe that pistol is not actually a pistol. It looks more like a non-lethal taser. If not, they should consider it.
Ive not been sure what to expect with this . It doesnt look bad . Stepping into a first / third person shooter like this , with all the many successful games already out there, it is always going to be a big order to fill . Im still getting to grips with the existing game but maybe down the line I might look at this .
Goes back to my original thought when Odyssey was announced: Why?
I get space legs is exciting (really) and that it's the next 'big step' for expanding Elite (really). What I *don't* get is...Elite's core mechanics and features are woefully incomplete, imbalanced, or shallow (and in many cases, all three!).
Where is Passengers 2.0? Where is a working C&P system that makes sense? Where is c-logging and interdiction improvements? Where is improved commodities system? What about Powerplay? CQC? Squadron game play and meaningful leaderboards/leagues?
Where is the *rest* of the space(SHIP) game we all know and love and want to see more of?
Looking forward to window shopping on stations Star Citizen style. Not really hoping for much else at this point.
Me too, actually.
I have a feeling this gameplay video is going to become a massive meme in the Elite Dangerous community after everyone plays one of these missions and sees what the reality of them truly is.
Idk how anyone can come with that "bUt iTz PrE aLpHa" nonsense anymore. Time and time again, criticisms and concerns people have pre-launch for games have been shown to be accurate. 95% it isn't fixed by the time the game launches.
I mean people are still comparing it to Star citizen and that game barely fucking exists unless you're a content creator. It's like Polybius or something, a mythical game only spoken about in hushed tones of disappointment
I bring this up because i see it in every single place you can talk about Elite. There's always someone saying something like "is this the star citizen killer 😂" and that game may as well not even exist but people still ride it's non existent dick 24/7.
Even if it's a little janky it's at least there, and it will work better in the future. I swear people just want to complain for the sake of complaining. It looks fine, completely playable.
Hopium is strong. People tie themselves emotionally to stuff like this, and they cannot accept any criticism of it. Then they scream when the product is released half-assed, as if no one could have known.
@@Beery1962 i think just the opposite. I think there's subhuman culture of people online that only live to hate. This looks fine, I've never in my fucking life seen a 10/10 because that isn't a real thing. Everything has it's issues. If you let small shit that doesn't matter get in the way of your fun just so you can complain to get internet points you are one of them. I didn't see anything game breaking and I'm fine with an acceptable level of jank because I'm not a pissbaby zoomer
you need to watch the dev commentary. They explain a lot in context as to what is happening and why
Indeed. So sick of people being overly critical without seemingly even bothering to listen to the Dev comments as part of the livestream.
Has anyone noticed that none of the security personnel fall down when their health bars drop to zero? They haven't even got that working yet.
Pilot's face will tell you what odyssey is.... Im even sad after watching it because I keep on criticizing Star Citizen and then ED showcased this.
Unless this somehow turns ED into a permanent demo that you only get to play like once a year if you're a content creator and lucky, i don't see any similarity besides space
Combat and ground movement has a Star Trek Online feel.
I thought it was .ore like Planetside 2, which would have been a complement 10 years ago
Didn't realise Herbert from Family Guy made the landing gear noise 😂
IMO it just looks like a mid tier FPS but maybe it’ll get better
I got a little too excited when I decided to preorder, but I'm genuinely interested in walking through Guardian ruins or Station pilot lounges.
Man they should just remove the FPS.... They could have done better by doing the hide. lean and shoot gamestyle but they use the OLD counterstike A and D sidespeed meta.. LMAO
I'm a Lifetime pass holder (got caught up in the original Kickstarter hype) so already invested, but that was pretty underwhelming. Can't help but feel if this came out on Steam as a standalone game with no connection to Elite (and called Moonbase Assault or something) it would sell a couple of hundred copies at 10 bucks a pop then disappear without a trace. Like I said though, I'm already invested so really hope it gets better from here
I'm not sure I'm a fan of looter-shooter health bars over enemies. Like, why is that necessary especially when they GLOW BLUE when they're shielded?
I have wonder why the ship wasn't engaging targets until the ground people got close. That would make sense.
the base as anti ship turrets that can be disabled by players on the ground
It's almost 1 year, have you tried the latest?
yes they are clean but they have some equipment on them that is not. If they get scanned by a guard by getting close, they will be found out
Planetside Lite.
I mean that sniper reload did look VERY similar to the vanu reload 😂😂😂
@@silverknight6556 it does
Dude, im happy you get it.
Thank you.
The video itself is edited and ill bet money error codes and instancing played a role.
Also!
At the end,
Either frontier didnt want to show us the 2 people in the ship when it takes off or...
We cant actually get into someone elses ship lmao the 2 blue dots are left behind as the chieftain pulls away.
it looked tolerable, all except for the rate of power drain...
"I've this prepped" ... "Arthur Steven Bruce.. aand..eh... aand.... eh who am I missing" some time passes "right Zack!" ... -> Honestly I couldn't tell.. ;P Subbed
I wasn't excited at all by the prospect of odyssey, now I've seen it "working" it has merit and I'll likely buy the expansion, ground combat meh I'm in this for the spaceships but it will be nice to wander around occasionally and the new planet models with atmosphere look amazing.
The pistol and laser rifle could be different classes. The pistol might be a pure energy class to break shields (hence quick shield break) with the rifle kinetic and energy even. They could also be engineered differently but hard to know.
It looks very promising, but I'd like to see the more compete version. With improved animations, more aggressive AI, weapons that sound meatier or louder. That sand needs sparkle/glint to it and the crates are probably place holder awaiting actual textures. At least these are things we'd hope, also that constant beeping for auto dock on the surface, good catch, that should only be turned on when landing gear is deployed, wouldn't drive people insane then. Interestingly, this is from a build 3 months ago, the combat gameplay from a dev diary looked more polished than this, wonder if anyone else caught on to that.
I wouldn't compare their commentary to Ubisoft, Ubi is a whole different level of fake cringe.
those weapons look more like some toy pew pews
i think odyssey will be a good starting point, and as long as frontier understands that and are willing to build on it this could be awesome but that very much depends on them.
Good thing we can wait for the yam to get his review copy Oh wait.............
I'd like to touch on a handful of things that you (Pilot) brought up. I'm not gonna be gentle but I won't be harsh either. Just my opinion here just as you have yours.
"Nobody talks like that."
People that want to have a little fun in what they're doing do that. People that like to RP do that. People that want to maybe take the game a little too seriously will do that. People that like total immersion do that. People that just wanna goof around a little do that. Hell, I'm tempted to get a voice modulator to do a "walky-talky" tweak and talk like this with my buddies in missions when it comes out just for the hell of it. Why? Because people aren't always talking their work or what happened in their lives lately or what they had for breakfast or what the fucking Kardashians are up to this week. True, not many people play games like that (I guess, I dunno, I didn't take a survey or anything), but some people like to. It doesn't have to be the whole MilSim-level stuff, but planning things out and organizing and coordinating on the move? Definitely something me and my buddies do. Why do people play like this or however they want to? For whatever reason they like. Is it kinda silly? Sure. But this is a video game; it's not meant to be super serious. Even if some people DO take it WAY too seriously.
"Everything is bland colors, just beige and dusty."
I'll assume that you've never been on a military installation. Buildings and structures on military bases (US bases at least) couldn't get more bland if they were on a black and white TV. And if you're in the Navy (like I was) or visit a Navy ship, I sure as hell hope you like gray, gray, and oh yeah! More gray. Okay, and a little white thrown in here and there. It's utilitarian. This is a planetary settlement on what seems to be a desert planet, not the Louvre. They wouldn't care about what's pretty; they're care if it worked or not. Not to mention what a sandstorm or two does to a nice paint job if all the sand everywhere is anything to judge by.
"The walk animation is horrible and they float above the ground."
Yes, they're floating above the ground. Yes, the animation is kinda janky. But I've also seen far worse. And this is also an alpha build. Just another thing to add to the list of things to work on. At least it seems that we'll have the option to switch between
"The mountains are popping."
Yep, I saw it too. And as someone that likes to take in all the details from close by to far away, things like that can be freaking annoying. But again; alpha build. Another thing to work on.
"Why don't the NPCs see them?"
Gonna have to go with speculation here. As you mentioned, maybe it's a neutral location and the NPCs don't care until you do something dumb. When they landed, they said that they were clean, so there's that. They aren't in any sort of stealth movement. They walk right in front of several guards and skimmers who just don't care. Gotta be the whole "neutral base" thing. I can't imagine the AI detection being that bad. If it is, then DAMN that's definitely something to work on.
"I'm not judging on the final product, I'm only judging on what's presented."
What's being presented isn't a beautifully polished release trailer built to showcase the greatest aspects of the expansion. It's a playthrough video of a single mission with strict parameters meant to show what's possible. Yes, it's gonna be rough around the edges; that's what Pre-Alpha means.
You like salvage mechanics and the tools. I love the idea and wish they'd put some sort of ship salvage mechanic into the game, maybe something No-Man's-Sky-ish. Not necessarily to get free ships, but materials, goods, maybe some modules.
Pistol doing more damage than the assault rifle? Remember the M6D pistol from the first Halo? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Speaking of weapons; non-lethal and/or silenced weapons! Come on FDev, give us sneaky types something to work with!
That pretty much sums up what I've got to say about it. Are my hopes and dreams for the expansion shaken or broken? Nah, it looks pretty damn nice overall. Am I fan-boying all over it? Hell no, there's plenty of things to work out and change around to make sure it works right. Is it promising? Very, but promises have been broken before. Here's hoping that this is something that lives up to the promise.
It could be that the pistol is a class-A max engineered pistol, and the rifle is not.
no the pistol dose not the guy with the hand gun shoots the people with no shildes the guy with the rifle shoots the shelded people
I've only had Elite for about two weeks and I have a bit of a hot take about this:
The trailer doesn't really fail to meet my expectations. This is about the level of quality I was expecting.
Elite is a mind blowing game in terms of scope. It's a 1:1 scale recreation of the galaxy, astronomical physics simulator, spaceflight simulator plus combat, terrestrial flight simulator plus combat, and a driving sim (sort of). That's not even the full list of core gameplay elements. But the "a mile wide and an inch deep" metaphor from the "combat is broken" vid from a while back is accurate. There's so much going on that none of the components of the game are perfect. A lot of them are just okay.
Obviously I hope they improve heavily on what we saw in the trailer, but that level of datedness and jankiness should be familiar to anyone who's tried any of the Horizons missions. It's not exactly shaping up to be the lowest quality gameplay component of Elite.
To me the worst thing about this update is that there is no VR support, despite having it for about seven years. Effectively the game is dead to me, I have only ever played it in VR for the 800+ hours I have logged in.
Honestly im going to enjoy this allot, hating on how they talk and play is just silly lmao could be rp. Sure it could use some polishing up and a little work with the walk animations and general mechanics but im not gonna lose sleep over all this.
the running is better than Cyberpunk lol
He might be floating because he has a shield ?
Like walking on his shield that hopefully works better than damn SRV shields ,why oh why don't they work against impacts !!!!
In the video they talked about how they tried attacking before the power take down they lasted seconds lol
I think they are showing the sneaking in way for just for show and tell .
Yes the damage is what they did for weapons on ships so the pistol does more Physical Damage and it does crap against Shields
There is 3 energy weapon types Physical Damage , Heat Damage and Plasma Damage
Physical Damage good against non shielded target and not good against shielded target
Heat damage good against Shields not good against non shielded
Plasma ok against both
Just like in ships unless engineered
I also don't think that was a sniper weapon it looked but like a an assault weapon set to single shoot but who can really tell
looks like they got the panel cutting from lone echo.Why no VR??????
If Odyssey was too much a departure from the main game, I think FDev would be on the one hand congratulated on a bold move forward and on the other hand lambasted for not overhauling the main game to better fit their shiny new thing. What you have here is compromise.
I did enjoy the short gameplay but I did expect a lot more. Hopefully things will get better, AI, GUN PLAY, but it did look better planet side than it does now, hopefully that even gets better. On a 1-10 scale ...probably 6.5-7 at most right now.
ngl... i will still never leave my ship just like i avoid planetary missions
"listening to the community" HAHAHAHAHA
it was exactly what i expected. and my expectations, as always, are low. that being said its fine, as long as the balance gets fixed (not holding my breath). i would assume the auto landing beeping will only happen after you "request" landing. you wouldnt do that til you want to actually land.
This expansion is needed and wanted but I could care less about the combat. I would have rather seen how this could be used in finding new areas to change the future of the game. I hope that fd let's us use this expansion to further exploration. I want to be able to use it to better find things like guardian ruins in systems and even underground tunnel networks on planets and things of that nature. I mean in my opinion this should have been a video where the team was exploring a body and one of them fell into a tunnel discoverying something or a biological lifeforms home under the surface. I would also like to see the fps used to create some sort of base on planets way out. Thats what I want in elite. I want to be able to use the fps to do research on far out bodies and create a small base for myself. Wouldn't mind the combat as far as dealing with pirates or intruders. Still I hope that in the future these kind of things are used with the fps and planet upgrades. Personally I think they should have used something of this nature to showcase the fps side. Great work as always and keep up the great content
Lol, I had the exact same thought about the running animations
Totally agree, Pilot. I really, really wish there was something here to be impressed by, but there just isn't.
yeah think I might wait a while for this... maybe get it on sale instead. When will companies realise this scripted comms shit sounds terrible, does not in any way get people hyped (in fact it just ends in people mocking it) and just helps to highlight all the issues the game has like trying to stealth through a section that clearly doesn't need it. it's almost laughable how half baked the whole thing feels, or at least I would be laughing if I wasn't cringing the whole way.
I agree with you here man, something is off.
I don’t understand why they decided to pretend like they were doing stealth. Very misleading.
Oh I would have a lot of fun with that stuff
honestly,not looking forward to this at all,if i want to play a FPS,i'll just play a FPS.
Your loss
I hope the look "bad" is to keep compatibility with the potatoes PC like mine, that can make Elite work (as it is now) .
I'm poor, I love elite, I play it for year, but I don't have enough income, and too much responsibility to buy a 1200 to 1500$ computer.
That's exactly part of the reason. Fdev wanted to have the expansion have the same system requirements is the game is now.
People seem to forget not everyone can afford high end pc's. And also development constraints that come with the games engine. And are complaining it does not look like escape from tarkov in space.
From the whole pretty bare mechanics and terrible AI it reminds me of early PayDay gameplay... which was a lot more fun than it looked. So there's... hope?
So much for the star citizen killer.
I don't think start citizen needs help killing itself, it's barely alive in the first place. Comparing ED to SC is like comparing NASA to that chick from highschool who sells scentsi cubes and kitchen knives for a living and talks about flat Earth all the time
@@wearecoterminous you´re clearly clueless what SC even is.
@@thewolf9637 so is literally everyone else because it's still not out. I'm almost fucking 30 and they announced that shit when i was in highschool. It's a pyramid scheme run by a known confirmed con artist and anyone still defending it is a fucking moron.
I was so positive after the Dr Kay Ross interview/presentation on the new lighting and planet tech. Then... then we got this. I am honestly deflated, as Odyssey was my most anticipated software of 2021. (except perhaps for Horizon or God of War)