Change Desktop Environments on Linux
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Change Desktop Environments on Linux
Let's go over what it takes to switch your desktop on Linux change it from KDE, GNOME, XFCE, MATE, Cinnamon, LXQt, etc. .
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My Desktop Customizations: ruclips.net/video/Ymx7Z19mwAU/видео.html
Linux Desktop Environments Explained: ruclips.net/video/2sBsxrWD9to/видео.html
Conky Desktop Widgets: ruclips.net/video/QB8cjKpdVQY/видео.html
How would I go about getting the Windows XP Luna desktop Environment on Linux Mint or zorin?
I love your videos but please stop talking too much straight to the point less talk ...
Wait about linux mint?
@@thebigm4 Zorin OS usually has GNOME pre-installed and nowadays GNOME doesn't have much customisation settings but in Linux Mint having Cinnamon, are full of customisation settings. If you still want GNOME, you might require the old GNOME 2 (This is what I actually think BTW).
I wished RUclips had fewer Linux talk show hosts and more guided and stepped tutorials. It’s kind of like trying to find recipes online. You have to go through six pages of recipe history and family heritage just to actually get to the instructions on making the recipe.
He'd tell you more if he knew himself. ;)
I feel the same also typing the simplest thing possible on google shows all but including the creator of said queried
the video had barely 5 minutes of substance. Everything else was just yapping
Most people don't want to study on RUclips. They want to be entertained. I'm sure that if he posted many tutorials, less people would watch them.
Bro just the documentation , I've already given up on RUclips , you have the documentation or wikis those are your only resources out there
If there is anything good about distro hopping, it is that it teaches you that, in the end, it really comes down to either Arch or Debian, depending on which philosophy you prefer. If you pick a solid foundation, like one of these two, you can have anything on top of it.
Yup, I just wish I figured it out sooner. I distro-hopped too much in the beginning and really it is just 2 distros that matter in the end.
_cries in fedora_
@@TheWilldrick Fedora is a great distro for a workstation, but I just find it lacking compared to debian or arch for all around gaming and versatility.
Chris Titus Tech can you provide some examples of how Fedora is lacking? I think Fedora is something in between Debian and Arch in regards to the up-to-dateness of its packages. Not as stable as Debian but it's closer to the bleeding-edge. The whole point of using Fedora or Debian is that you have more chances to find Debian or Redhat server and it's useful for your job. Personally, I've never heard of any Arch server (probably never will)
I run Solus >_>
Sounds like you could make a Choose Your Own Linux Adventure series on installation options. At the end of each video is a few links to the next step. Of course some paths lead to failure and others to epic success.
I really like this idea
vanilla linux mint cinnamon here :)
Hey, if it works for you that's good. Some people just want a working OS that looks decent and they don't have to change things.
LM has some of the best WiFi support I've come across. All my PC's are running LM 19.3
sounds yummy *_*
I've got cinnamon running with xfce, budgie, plasma and the ubuntu wayland desktop. I just like to keep all of them in case i want a change, but i mainly use cinnamon
@@aprameyanaganur2934 i switched to elementary os
Funny you posting this video today. I've only recently come to Linux as a Windows 7 escapee and started with Linux Mint Cinnamon which I like. Then I got the bug and started watching millions of Linux videos on RUclips including yours and of course, started "distro hopping" to see what other flavours were like. Then literally this morning I found out that you could just change your DE which I tried changing Ubuntu Mate (which I don't much care for) to xfce (which I do). Then your video came out...
Maybe you could do more detailed video of how you start at the bottom and build it up (or maybe you already have?). I'm learning a lot though, thanks for all the great information not to mention the entertainment value. 👍👍👍
Stick to mint. Stable AF and commands are the same as ubuntu. Lots of packages available and repos for anything you can think of, cinnamon DE is stable. What more can you ask. Recommended alternative, fedora with KDE plasma. Centos commands, more frequent update cycle. 🙋♂️
@@pavlospilakoutas I have a 1 GB RAM can you give me recommendations ???
Cuz, I'm new to this
@@zeroday5441 mint 32bit, u choose the desktop u like
@@pavlospilakoutas I have a 64-bit system
Plus I'm broke& let's just say that my family doesn't give me freedom& disregards all of my opinions when it comes to tech (I'm Asian BTW)
@@zeroday5441 u have a 64bit on 1 gb ram, what for?
this video actually saved me from all that mess with switching to another distro in search of better input lag. Thank you
I think the safest way is just to use VM's and play around with desktop environments that way so you can basically learn as go if your a noobish Linux user and fear something breaking on your main or host machine.
I always at least test a distro I want to use on a VM. It's much safer. I can also mess with basic theming beforehand to see if I can use my current workflow.
This could definitely be a short series that you could go into more detail with the different steps and aspects.
Great overview!
Hey Chris I posted on your Reddit about manjaro xfce 32bit and I think this video really helped. Thank you.
One of the things that you might consider covering, is the workflow for preparing to do a vanilla install.
It's a bit of a challenge your first time out to make your definitive list of packages to install. Both the packages that you absolutely need to have a working system, and the packages you want to have on a fresh install you know you'll need right out the gate.
I liked the script tutorial, but the obvious next step in tutoring should be covering the full planning and implementation of a vanilla installation. So many people would benefit greatly; It took me several attempts and a lot of planning and revising/learning to get it done right.
One good thing about Distro hopping first, at least for me, was that I have found so many different software I would not even dream about. Now I am trying out Manjaro, which will be my gateway into the Arch realm of linux. After I have tried this for awhile, I will jot down which software I want from all the different ditros I have tried, and build my own ditro on top of Debian or Arch. This is the plan at least XD.
That's me with Mint Cinnamon. So many awesome programs that I don't want to go without, like the Gnome Disks and Terminal programs. Really helps familiarize you with the great software that's out there.
Thank you, Chris. It was interesting to experience the various DEs and WMs years ago. But Gnome with a tiling extension does whatever I need. And Pop-shell is going to integrate i3 tiling and shortcuts, perhaps as soon as 20.04. But it is good for people to learn just how different these DEs can be.
One of the main reasons I distro-hop, on either VMs for one of my spare machines, is to see what default packages they've installed and to see what they have... that's different, so I can see if it's something to incorporate into my current setup.
Chris, I strongly agree with you about the pointlessness of distro-hopping if all you want a new desktop environment. I've not experienced any serious problems having multiple DEs installed (I use lightdm to select which DE to log into). It is even possible to run multiple X-sessions on your machine, so that CTRL-ALT-F8 can be a different X-session (I've never tried running two different DEs at the same time, doing this). It's more of an amusing thing to try out, rather than being particularly practical. Debian unstable is a good distro to use as you get the bleeding-edge releases and a fair amount of reliability too. My favourite DE is Enlightenment which although somewhat of a veteran DE is particularly easy to use and it's virtual desktop is second to none (KDE and GNOME feel awkward in comparison).
I made the switch from Windows 10 to Linux Mint last night and am so glad I finally pulled the trigger on making the transition.
Distro hopping can be fun. Sometimes I'd do it because I wanted to find a faster distro that still had the features I wanted but without the bloat. Btw, the fastest I ever found was Vector Linux. Don't remember the version. I think I dropped it because it had an odd package manager, but I don't really remember. It was noticeably faster than anything I'd used other than maybe Puppy linux.
Eventually I settled on Linux Mint.
Sometimes I hopped because I was just curious about what other distros had to offer. I learned a lot about linux by doing it too.
Now I'm starting to get the itch to do some more distro hopping.
The "Fedora Everything iso" enters the chat...
thank you very much, that was very informative, learnt a lot more about Linux
Linux is like a jigsaw puzzle that each user can create a unique and personal image with the same pieces every one else can use.
That's not how a jigsaw puzzle works 🤣
@@HerrFlachpfeife I know. What I described does not exist. but tried to give a perspective.
@@8836290 I personally think it's more like a box of Legos.
@@HerrFlachpfeife You can say that but....I think Legos are for kids only/mainly.Jigsaws are for any age, kids to retired grandpas.
@@8836290 ,said the person with a sleeping puppy as their profile pic.
(Derived) distributions not only provide their custom desktop environments, but often their own repositories, custom update model, custom software and sometimes even their own philosophy ("systemdless", Linux-libre kernel, etc). For example, Manjaro tests packages before they push updates to users, so it's a different experience from vanilla Arch.
My second point is that distributions often offer an ISO without a desktop environment preinstalled. You can install multiple DEs on these distros and still benefit from having access to their custom repositories and stuff like that.
So you're not limited to just vanilla Arch or Debian. Distribution doesn't mean how it looks, but how it works.
I am a new Linux user and I love it. Thank you for your content.
Dude thank you so much for this video
Very clear
Never really considered Linux but now after seeing how it can boost up old hardware and how much one can change it, Linux became really interesting.
Always great content!
where my xfce brothers? represent!
Used to be but sorry brother, i have failed you. I'm strictly on i3 these days. I always liked Xfce and would probably go back if i want something else than i3.
XFCE is the only one I can really use. It allows me to set up panels in a very particular way that I like.
Here. First distro was Peppermint which uses it.
Here!! Always have been and something tells me I always will be.
I'm here! I use Manjaro XFCE and have been using it alongside Windows 10 for about a year now. :) I only use Windows 10 for Minecraft Bedrock Edition but you can now run that on linux using the android version! Goodbye windows 10 for good haha! :)
Thank you, very nice video, and good experience shared
Chris THANK YOU. A LOT of confusion for me but at least I have a starting point now
At one point you said "demon" and "corrected" it to "daemon" with a pronounced "a". But from what I understand it IS supposed to be read as "demon".
No, a demon and a daemon are different things and are pronounced differently. In a modern context, a demon is a bad or evil being or character, and a daemon is a good or benevolent being or character. In computing, this could be considered the difference between a computer virus vs a useful background process respectively.
Here's quite a good article on their etymology www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-daemon-and-vs-demon/
Some distro spins I would love to see:
Elementary Plasma
Fedora Budgie
Pop Deepin
Pop MATE
Arch + pantheon
@@harshal259 Arch is desktop agnostic, and will work with pretty much anything. That's one reason why it is so popular.
The ones I listed are designed to work with a certain DE, and will be buggy with anything else unless you REALLY know what you are doing--hence spins: versions of a distro that have been reworked by professionals to cooperate with particular package sets.
Hey Chris, can you do a video on Gentoo? It seems that most youtube channels don't talk about it that much. I have been in the linux world for a while now and I have little to no information about gentoo as content creators don't mention it among popular distros. Your video actually reminded me of it as I know it is highly configurable so it might be a good candidate for "DE hopping" if you will. Anyways, I love your videos keep up the good work.
Don't do that to yourself bro
very useful video my friend! thank you!
cool this actually also explains the difference between a DE and WM too
So far I've done it and it's WORKED--- but it's good to learn the PROPER way to do it-- and I finally AGREE with you-- it's NOT the distro at all... so i stick with DEBIAN-- just installed Debian 12- LOVE IT.. (Sparky is my go to- but it's almost PURE debian with kde on it-- although it's fixed so it supports 23 DE) :)
Very insightful
Good advice. A couple of years ago, I broke an installation of Linux Mint Cinnamon by installing multiple Desktop Environments. It worked fine with the first two I added, but everything went to hell after I installed KDE.
About 10 years ago I would distro hop 2-3x/week. Now I have finally found a good distro. I personally went from Manjaro to Linux Mint Cinnamon, I absolutely love the simplicity of Mint. I just want something that is there and it works. Oh yeah and stability.
I have been using i3 for years now... About 1 weekend every month I get the itch to try a different DE but it never lasts more than that weekend cuz I am so used to i3. I will say this, Deepin is pretty nice because I can use the same key bindings as I use in i3, plus it's a really nice looking (though not very customizable) desktop environment. I keep it installed along side i3.
Yeah. Every Desktop Environment has its caveats, and they're hard to fix, because it's hard-coded into DE, while on Window Manager it's like "A" feature from "K" program doesn't work, so I'll use "A" feature from "L" program instead.
Thoughts on bspwm?
@@tonn333 to be honest I haven't used it. I am trying out qtile right now and I like it a lot.
@@AndrewErwin73 xfce with xfwm replaced by bspwm is pretty cool.
@@tonn333 I have always liked Xfce and I've heard of people using tiling wms with is...something I've thought about trying.
Love all your videos. I was hoping that after watching this one, I would have been able to know how to switch to any specific desktop environment I would like, but that was not the case. Also, I was expecting to be informed of the potential benefits of switching from one to another. That was not covered either. If I were to switch I would like to know the potential benefits.
Going to the conclusion; which is best to start of with vanilla Debian or Arch Linux, I'm still lost. Because I have no practical knowledge on how to Install any desktop environment on one of these distributions. Therefore, in my case I did not obtained the benefit I expected from watching this video.
But I appreciate your efforts and thanks. Other videos have greatly benefit me.
Hey Chris, thank you for making these awesome videos :-D
I do have a question regarding the use of vanilla Deb or arch as a base because as you mentioned, ripping out the default DE of a distro will break it.
If I want to use Debian as my base, I don't have ppas available the same way as I have it in Ubuntu. Can't I just go with the server version of Ubuntu as a base and go from there?
Or is that a bad idea?
Cheers
Gnome after changing its look with extensions as dash to panel and arc menu is not only the best looking but also the most solid and with important extensions that actually works. For example, Gnome has several ways to effectively control the CPU/the fan, while the other DE I have tried don't have CPU manager or it doesn't work at all.
I felt that when he said he would recommend mint to his grandma haha. I was thinking about distro hopping and found this to be sound advice for someone who wants to dive deeper! I will be checking out more content.
Chris, I still am curious why you removed dxvk from your system recently. What is going on? Benchmarking games with vs without dxvk?
I forget why I did this, but I'm pretty sure I added it back in now. I think I was compiling from git and I switched to binaries.
@@ChrisTitusTech Don't you wish that you would have that 3990X to compile the code? Or even the 3950X. #dreaming #oneday
For some people init system may matter as well. For example, why bother changing init from systemd to OpenRC or Runit on Arch or Debian if there are Artix and Devuan which both provide an option to install the same way their antiderivatives are installed? So one may consider using those derivatives instead of their antiderivatives.
And also worth noticing that power user may want to use their distro's "system-level" (GUI-independent) settings for stuff like locales, internet connection, fonts, keyboard layouts and so on. Also the probably might want to implement their own solution or use some ready one to control mentioned settings from their graphical environment.
I was using Manjaro, I love Manjaro. When doing the fresh install I was using i3wm, then installed deepin (because it looks good). After some updates that came in, I decided to switch to a new DE, probably gnome/xfce. Tried to uninstall deepin completely but I was unable to as some dependencies were still used by something.
I do agree fully with you Chris. There are just a few base distributions, the others are packages and backgrounds selected for you.
This was a very helpful video. I've been wanting to stick with MX because it's been great for me, but wanted to try different DEs because I think XCFE looks and feels clunky and dated. I've been full-time on Linux for 6 months but six months ago had to get work done. Didn't have time to figure out the 'you can screw your whole system over' stuff that several people warned me about.
This video did a great job of explaining it all so I'm not afraid to play with it. 🙂
Thanks Chris: Converted to Vanilla Arch from Fedora KDE a couple months ago on my personal laptop and production machine. Really liking Arch and use Awesome WM on my laptop. Installed Awesome on top of a KDE environment, now I have two polkits, gnome and kdwallet. Each time I reboot into Awesome, I have to log into my RUclips account. Everything is running nice except for the polikit annoyance, I have not tried removing one of the polkits, if I did remove one, I'm thinking gnome --keyring.
Thanks, have tried installing additional desktop environments alongside whatever came out of the box a few times, and once I've gone beyond about two then things usually started breaking. Now I know why!
an intro comprised completely out of DEs sounds awesome :p
Hehe, that does! My next intro will be 2-3 seconds though, as I just think it is bloat ;)
@@ChrisTitusTech hehehehe
I have recently bought my first ever PC and I got Linux Ubuntu replace Windows and I feel fine with Linux's performance and especially, I am quite happy with GNOME's environment.
Once I understand Ubuntu properly, I have plans to do some distro hopping in future, to learn and try other variants so that I can work in any Linux machine irrespective of distro. Also, I think it will be good to try most of the major desktop environments for learning purposes and flexibility while working on any Linux machine.
I really need to learn this now as in a couple of months when the Steam Deck launches, I want to use it as my Main PC with a nice look docked, but I don't want to break whatever driver tweaks Valve will have installed to make all of the games run.
I use Manjaro with Gnome, neon, and Solus with Budgie. I like using different DEs regularly.
Sounds to me the reason your Fedora broke is because you didn't switch your display manager before removing KDE.
If you change desktop environments and get settled in, be sure to have the correct display manager installed before you delete your old environment and potentially your old display manager.
This can be done on systemd systems via:
sudo systemctl enable .service --force
GDM for GNOME
SDDM for KDE Plasma
Entrance for Enlightenment
LDM for XFCE, LXDE, LXQt, Budgie, Cinnamon, MATE, and Deepin
A Display Manager should be able to start up any DE or WM. If it cannot then it is broken. That having been said I console login and use startx.
I love to try different DE's because I believe choice is good and I learn a thing or two. Now I'm know linux expert I've only been using linux on and of for a couple of years, but in my experience in the past by having multiple DE's my distro has become unstable which is a bummer, because like I said, I love trying and learning new stuff in the world of Linux !
I hopped from Manjaro to PopOs because I couldn't get my wifi adapter to work. I installed Lutris and it made shortcuts on my desktop and they don't work. If PopOs is easy mode I don't want to move to the granddaddy where stuff is even harder to figure out.
I would say PopOS is easy mode. Most other options will only get harder. However, you can just modify PopOS to your needs, as there isn't a reason to really switch if it works for you.
@@ChrisTitusTech It doesn't work 100%. But a lot more stuff works now than on day one. Since Windows 7 reached End of Life I live here now. I just wish I knew more about how to diagnose stuff when it doesn't work.
@@mulatdood the situation is that you proved Titus' point for him - distrohopping just because some wifi dongle doesn't work? 99% of the time it is you just needed to copy a specific library file to your firmware folder...
The only reason PopOS would help is finding proprietary drivers. WiFi is hit or miss with Linux. It's gotten better, but I've encountered a few that just are bitches to get working. That's why I have an old USB WiFi card to troubleshoot things. It gives me access to the internet so I can research and download packages.
@@mulatdood
You want to make the short cuts work, right? Here's how:
Use terminal to install the exo-open command.
"sudo apt-get install exo-utils"
(If you want to skip the Y/n prompt enter it as: "sudo apt-get install -yy exo-utils")
If its already installed this command will do nothing.
Open a text editor.
Type:
[desktop entry]
Name=your_games_name
Comment=Information about your game.
Exec=exo-open /home/user/what_ever_directory_you_put_your_game_in/your_game.exe(or ISO or gba, etc.)
Icon=/wherever_you_put_the_icon/your_icon.png
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Categories=games;
Save file as "Your_game.desktop" and mark it as executable by right clicking>permission>checking the "allow executing file as program"(not always necessary but sometimes will make it work.)
Move that file to: /usr/share/applications, as the Root admin.
Once done go to your game file, right click>open with>whatever program your game opens with> set as default.
Open application menu>games>your short cut> and it'll open in the correct program.
Make sure you capitalize correctly or your shortcut will not appear in the menu, and sometimes just not open.
You can also drag and drop from the menu to make desktop icons or taskbar shortcuts like any other program file.
You can also use this to make a front end for programs that do not have one. For example Debian-Installer-gtk on Linux mint.
Replace this line:
Exec=gdebi-gtk %f
And it'll open the gtk without a need for terminal.
@Chris you really have no love for the rpm family, don't you ;)
They make great servers ;)
OpenSUSE ~
I would recommend dropping the use of double negatives in your writing style.
Since I mostly work in Red Hat and derivatives like CentOS , I run Fedora 31 KDE spin on both my laptop and my Workstation at home.
KDE 5 Plasma on Fedora 31 is a damn nice enviroment !
Went to the 'dark mode' last week, on both the Workstation and the laptop (work laptop ) , its still 'growing' on me.., not sure yet if I'm keeping the dark theme yet... although I must admit, it is a lot easier on the eyes...
In fact, I installed it as Fedora 28 KDE spin, and upgraded it from 28 to 29, and 29 to 30, and 30 to 31 using :
dnf system-upgrade download --releasever= ; dnf system-upgrade reboot
I learnt the same thing long way. I used to install a new linux distro almost everyday trying to see what's that sweet spot where I can stop. Fortunately came to know about Elementary OS. When installing it, I saw it gave me options to install so many GUIs. That's when I found out what I needed to do.
Very helpful, these videos. I realised listening that I installed Red Hat probably before RUclips existed
Running Budgie on Vanilla Arch. It's great 🤙
I installed Manjaro preloaded with kde-plasma... Is it as easy to switch up desktop environments?
debian`s sprouts are on the way , amazing :)(:
Hey Chris I'd be really interested in seeing video from you on how to use 2 drives on Linux for gaming like having ssd for os and most files and other for large files and such
The problem being on certain distros is that some maintainers of that distro drop support for other desktop managers and so you won't get the full complete components from them because they removed them from their repositories, for example I wanted to try out KDE Plasma on Linux Mint, and of course I didn't know till after that the maintainers of Linux Mint dropped support and removed packages a year or so ago so I was missing some of the main essentials that KDE Plasma was suppose to have such as its control panel settings and its themes panel to change themes and such.
Man I just want POP OS Mate, all build by system 76 themselves.
thelegendaryqwerty why not use Ubuntu mate? Or Linux Mint Kate edition? Both are build off of Ubuntu like Pop OS is
I change DE every month for reviews for my channel. On Arch of course. My top favorite is Budgie!
If you are starting from scratch and know what you want, you can actually install the server version of many distros, which is exactly the same without a desktop, and add whatever desktop you want.
Sudo aptitude install xfce4
Sudo aptitude install kde-complete
... logout, select from login screen, log in!
Really no need to remove your original DE unless it conflicts. Most don’t.
will this really work? I am on mint xfce. Can i install kde on it or any other tweaking is required?
@@sourabhmestry9933 I wouldn't do it. I had KDE installed and installed GNOME alongside it once. It "worked", but it wasn't "right".
Honestly, what I recommend is setting up a vanilla Arch virtual machine (you can use archfi to install it pretty easily - Chris has a video on that too IIRC). But don't install a DE / GUI. Just make sure to install and enable Networkmanager or you won't be able to connect to the internet.
Then, snapshot that VM. Start it up, install a DE / WM, play around with it for a while. Then you can reload the snapshot and install a different DE / WM. That way you can try all of them without really breaking anything.
@@praetorxyn I will try this. Thanks for detailed reply.
I installed xfce on Bodhi Linux now that Moksha DE is interfering with it and I found no guide how to remove moksha and only keep xfce. Can you help?
You should do a video on the linux framebuffer device.
If configured correctly, you can view video, images, and even PDF documents in the console, without Xorg/X11
I think I have settled on MX Linux with XFCE for my daily driver. It runs on EVERYTHING including 32-bit computers. I have the 64-bit version running on my i7 laptop and the 32-bit version on my little Atom based laptop.
Hey Chris,
Can I start from Manjaro Architect or do I have to start with Arch?
Manjaro has been extremely stable for me, but I prefer an option to switch DEs.
You say distro hopping is a lack of knowledge, but in my opinion knowledge is obtained by trying new things, and in the case of Linux and distro hopping one would try and tinker with all these great distro's out there, because we can all agree there many distro's to choose from, and trying these versions to see which one is suitable for ones needs is never a bad thing in my opinion, and like I always say "Choice is good"
Hey Chris, awesome vids, can you do one on users and accounts and permissions in linux mint,
They are the same on everything single distro...wtf
I am so happy with Linux/POP OS right now :)
8:06 ... settings demon... I literally died lol
I think that is the correct pronunciation, though either one is accepted nowadays.
That youtube plaque is so reflective looks nice.
After distribution hopping for several yeasts going back to 2000, I have rotated though every distribution including pure Linux distribution including both mandravia , Fedora, Centos and RHEL. Just recently I got sick of the constantly distribution hopping so I returned to RHEL purely because I can get self directed support for just-north of $200 dollars US but for that price I feel that I got a great deal on a rock-solid enterprise distribution.
hello chris, any chances on complete simplified tutorial video how achive this?
You should include Zorin OS in the list of distros for people who don't want to mess around with their OS
Hi Chris, I have an old laptop which has 2GB RAM. I want to experiment it with Linux OSes. I like your idea about using vanilla distros. Which do you recommend would be better (more lightweight) for my old laptop? And what lightweight desktop environments would be suitable for the suggested distros?
xfce
I don't usually respond to youtube videos, but I have to say something as a Fedora user. I really prefer it over other distros. I have distro hopped and tired the three main branches. Debain based (Ubuntu, Pop_OS,) arch based (Manjaro) and RHEL (Fedora). I have to say that fedora is my favorite for running on a laptop. I love that it includes vanilla gnome by default without any bloated extensions. I personnally have zero gnome extensions on my setup because I find that it runs the smoothest like this. Fedora is also one of the few distros to include Wayland by default and properly support it. This is big for me because it enables smooth multi-tocuh gestures that cannot be found on any Xorg based setup. Also, I find the dnf package manager to be really well done: easy to remember commands that refer to what is actually being done, very speedy, and it rarely gives dependency erros especially compared apt and apt-get. Finally, I love that I can run nearly the latest kernel on top of a relatively stable OS when compared to arch. This way, my laptop regularly gets driver and firmware updates that make it more supported and run more efficient. Don't discount Fedora!
It would have been nice to show how to uninstall the various desktop envs you mentioned.
As someone who has broken a few DE's and distros by changing the default DE from a distro, it is VITAL to know you may break your distro trying to delete various applications, including utilities.
Applications which may be optional in pure "vanilla" Debian or Arch may be required by your favorite distro, and trying to delete them will end in tears, broken dependencies, and disappointment.
In addition doing more than one DE at a time can lead to excessive memory or processor use, menu items that won't work from the menu, and a menu list a block long as elements of both DE show up.
Some distros offer other DEs from their official repositories, but may not offer the full DE. This is also a headache if you are used to certain desktop or menu applications or features in your taskbar or system tray (or their Linux equivalent), and having to figure out what packages you need to install to get the full DE.
I totally agree!
With Linux we have the real power to build our own distro. That's amazing!
Damn... KDE using i3wm sounds right up my alley! Although, I'm still playing around and experimenting with KDE, and idk if I like it more or less than xfce.
Also, back when I was distro hopping, I was more looking at what the reviews said about the distro than what it looked like. If they're gonna be different, then they'll be used for different things, which makes sense (used lots of VMs). If you spend any amount of time on distrowatch, you'll see what each distro is trying to achieve. For me, it came down to which distro will I be most capable in doing what I want to do, and I'll get used to the DE along the way (didn't really work out; spent most of the time in terminal anyway).
I gotta say, as much as I love i3wm, installing KDE made me nostalgic of Windows in an alien sort of way. It reminded me of being able to split my screen into quadrants, but more powerfully now that I have more options in doing so.
So you are using now kde or xfce?
@@rubendragan6514 KDE. I'm still on the fence because KDE lags after a while of using it; I'm on a laptop that I keep running for a few days before rebooting.
Hallo, I was wondering about that stuff you said about distros other than arch and debian having things like the desktop environment 'baked in'.
What distros DO NOT have then 'baked in' like that? And if they are baked in, how can you change them?
I started using Arch, but I really miss the APT package manager commands... They're more simple in my opinion, and I type full words out faster than I can type the single letters, ironically, haha!
Downloaded pop, slapped on plasma, life's good.
So you are saying that I should use some form of basic debian to build a distro instead of trying to use Trisquel?
is there any tutorial about the whole process of chris customizing mate with awesome desktop?
The best distros for our moms is either Solus or ElementaryOS hands down.... they are pretty, easy to use and familiar (Solus looks and feels like Windows and Elementary looks and feels like Mac ...... if all you do there is browsing web, playing mahjong/solitaire, write a document or two once a year in Libre Office and maybe use VLC or Spotify)... these 2 distros are perfect
You're better off without a desktop environment at all, the CLI has never failed me.
The only times I hop is with new installs or different PCs. My first experience was on Kubuntu. I then tried Mint XFCE on a different laptop and figured out I liked XFCE, but didn't like how Mint's custom applications looked in theming so I went to Xubuntu. Now I'm most likely going switch to Manjaro as 16.04 starts getting older. I like the idea of a rolling release OS that I can keep updating. I don't like wiping my entire install just to hop distros, if I want to change I want to be committed to that change for at least a year or 2.
I'm very much liking Elementary OS atm - I use it as my main OS at home. Windows 7 is installed on the other SSD drive.
1. Why didn't someone make this plain ten years ago? 2. Why does it need a tutorial to figure out the Debian website?
Thanks for your abilities with making clear statements and demonstrations.
I wanted to ask what about the base desktops that are available in the MX kde software manager should I mess with them are leave them be? Thanks.
.. have Mate, You have Cinnamon ;). Thanks for explaining.
I now use Manjaro as a baseline simply because I like it, and Pamac is excellent for really changing the look and feel and getting an environment that flows and just works for my needs. The main reason for the initial choice of Manjaro after trying a few was the ease of setup with my GPU and Steam, it just worked after install with no need to mess with it.
I can definitely see where you are coming from, but look at Egee's distro delves. There are differences in distros that at the very least make matter to a newer, less experienced user. Some of these things may only be skin deep, but still.