i agree with the fact that he is the second most powerful in org XIII, but with the amount of sheer power and how skilled he is with the keyblades and the opportunity, he could be a master. one day that is
People keep forgetting when Roxas fought riku he handed him one of his keyblades, basically nerfing himself during the fight. I don't think you can really understand how strong Roxas is unless you play days. Dual wielding Roxas is just ridiculous
Roxas was only 50 percent Sora at the time too which is pretty powerful. It should be noted that Riku could have ended the fight when he was powerful enough to knock Roxas out for a few seconds when he countered his attack. Instead, he just gave the keyblade back
@@revalier3670 Roxas is well beyond Sora. I'm sorry, but he beat Saix twice by himself. Sora and Xion were mere spectators in the KHIII boss fight, and so... yeah.
I think Roxas is the 2nd most powerful Keyblade wielder since in days he defeated Xigbar ,Saïx and Multiple Xion copies effortlessly while being 80% weakened and at the end of Days (dual wield) he forced Riku to transform into Ansem then he gets defeated by Riku in Ansem form. In Kingdom hearts 2 Roxas defeats Axel twice , Hayner, Seifer, Vivi and Setzer. At the end of Kingdom hearts 2 he defeats Sora and got him on his knees(which only 3 people done Roxas, Xemnas, Young Xenahnort) . In kingdom hearts 3 he defeated Xemnas and Saïx effortless and helped the guardians of light. Also the fight with Sora Roxas could easily have ended Sora's heart but he was testing himself to see who was stronger in control and he was able to summon his keyblade mid fight in days so that trick Sora did he could've easily avoided it. Roxas able to travel across 3 galaxies in 1 second which is way faster than Sora ever done. This is only having a year with experience then forgetting it. 1. Sora (Kh3) 2.Roxas (Dual wield) 3.Riku 4.Terra / Lingering Will 5. Aqua 6. Roxas (One Keyblade) / Ventus 7. Mickey 8. Sora (kh2) / Xion (full power) 9.Xion / Sora (Kh1) 10 Axel/Lea 11.Kairi I put Ventus in the same place as Solo Roxas because he destroyed his own heart/ shatter it and defeated Vanitas multiples of times which Aqua, Mickey and even Sora was struggling with.
I think Roxas is actually a high tier Keyblade Weilder, I would put him between Riku and Sora because he is shown to have beaten Both, but Sora's growth in KH3 is somehow exponential enough to the point he is stronger than Riku (Which I don't get) but before that Roxas cleanly beat both of them on separate occasions. He could probably beat KH3 Base Sora in a fight, and probably some of his weaker formchanges, but Double Form would be a great challenge, and Ultima Form would probably mean Sora's victory. But hey, that's just my opinion, Everyone See's it Differently, and I respect your decision.
Well, it only makes sense. Roxas is a fusion between Sora and Ventus' bodies. Sora is an enigma and is a natural with a keyblade, despite never being properly trained. Ventus was trained by one of the greatest keyblade teachers in the series. So, mixing the two would make him theoretically both a prodigy and someone with extensive training. The only thing holding him back is he is a little reckless and naive, which is compounded twofold due to Sora and Ventus being the same way. That's why he thought he could free Kingdom Hearts and get his life back, when in actuality, it would've just obliterated him as soon as the door opened due to being an entity of darkness.
It's actually pretty accurate though I wouldn't say that Riku is stronger than Sora, especially since Sora have beaten Riku on multiple different occasions which in some he was "juiced up" with extra power as well, they're more or less equals and Sora wins cause he has as good reason as Riku does (which motivates him enough) and he doesn't try to "force" his way like Riku tend to do. The 2nd part I would disagree is the Sora during the end of KH3, even at his base form he became way too OP, so they're about equal footing with Roxas, of Sora decides to take any form he overwhelms Roxas. And I say this as someone who's favourite character IS Roxas (when it comes to Sora I'm neutral and when it comes to Riku I want to like him but he's too edgy, I also like Xion).
The Roxas vs Sora fight is basically the Ichigo vs Hollow Ichigo conflict, Roxas is a more serious and experienced Sora like Hollow Ichigo is compared to Ichigo.
Well to be fair, in his fight with Saix in KH3, he takes no damage at all. He’s also never fought against Xemnas before, but I have a feeling Roxas would win because when he comes back in KH3, he makes Xemnas panic and jump out of the way. I think it’s safe to say he might be even just as powerful as Sora since the fight between him in KH2, Roxas wins and it’s only through his hubris of “winning” where Sora gets the better of him because Roxas thought he had won
In KH2 it took both Sora and Riku to defeat Final Xemnas, where the same Riku was capable of one shotting Roxas in his Ansem transformation. So by default Roxas would not be capable of defeating Xemnas if it took both Sora and Riku to defeat him. Sora gets progressively more powerful as the series progresses even tho is power level keeps getting reset and at the end/beginning of each game. By the end of KH3 Sora is on a power level that no one else in the series could reach. He defeats Xehanort with the X-Blade which gives him control over Kingdom Hearts itself, with this Xehanort was capable of destroying all of time, space, and creation and to rebuild everything anew from light without any darkness. Sora defeated him in Base and then gains control over the X-Blade, making him literally the strongest person in the series that we know of so far. We don’t know what the Master of Masters is capable of but honestly it isn’t anything compared to what Sora has already don’t and can do with the X-Blade. Whether that be in his character to use it is arguable, because let’s be real Sora would never do that lol
Noah Morgan & Co. well 1, Sora actually beat Xemnas on his own. Final form Xemnas has the power of his damaged Kingdom hearts at that point in time and that’s why it took both Sora and Riku to kill him. As for KH3, Sora dies while going against Xehanort and that’s a fact because there was an intentional cutscene that shows this. It’s only through his friendship that he wins in the end when they do a trinity blast or something. Also I think it’s unfair to say Xehanorts grasp of Kingdom Hearts was completely 100% as he could’ve killed Sora in the spot if that was the case. Now going back to Roxas losing to Riku, he was caught off guard. It was the same reason he lost to Riku when he did to Sora and in both fights he initially won (except for his fight with Riku where for some reason he only uses one of his keyblades, loses, but then wakes back up to continue fighting). If Roxas was to fight Xemnas, I doubt that Roxas would lose for those reasons that you stated. I ain’t saying you’re points aren’t good though, but I think you kinda under estimated his power or over estimated everyone else’s
@@noahmorganco.7682 Riku has to use his Ansem Form in order to do it, he can't use his darkness to the same extent without him transforming. Riku (Ansem Form) > Roxas > Riku (Xemnas Fight)
@@noahmorganco.7682 You underestimate Roxas. Sora got more training time and experience. Roxas was really powerful despite only being a year old. If he'd train and fight and master the keyblade he'd be able to take on Xemnas without much difficulty. A barely year old Roxas beat the shit out of Riku and Sora. With training and more battle experience it would make him strong enough to defeat Xemnas
Tbh i feel when sora vs roxas. Sora is just lucky. Roax pressured him so hard. Idk what happen and how did it happen that his keyblade suddenly teleported to him. And roxas was caught off guard and so he got defeated. If he play more safe i feel he's stronger than sora. ( just how i feel no hate pls)
@@dunnesevods YES this is what I have been telling people sora only beat roxas because of plot armor in my opinion both riku and roxas are stronger than sora
I said he’s above riku since he scars of zemnes is able to beat dark riku base form with only one keyblade he’s also able to fight head to head wirh kh2 sora who defeated saix and sora and a lot of the other organizations members tho riku also bitched some people. like the dude is around sora’s level literally only people who could beat him is xenohart sora and maybe riku everyone else would get fucked by him
I don't think power scaling applies in Kingdom Hearts with too much extent. Captain Hook could even beat Xigbar with the right strategy. Of course very weak characters can't even touch the strongest (Hayner vs Ansem) , but I don't think Roxas is superior to Riku. They are pretty strong Keyblade Wielders prodigies and one could beat the other in a fight. Riku was losing and used all the power of darkness He had to beat him. That's all. That doesn't mean Riku is superior or whatsoever, He just used everything He could, like in a samurai duel.
I think roxas is stronger then sora atm. Xemnas would get his ass handed to him by roxas. Sora however has been reset from his abilities twice and most likley a 3rd because he saved kiari from death. Sora is ganna be stronger no question but roxas is king atm
Xemnas was literally so afraid of fighting him that he kidnapped the weakest person present and bailed immediately. That should say everything we need to know.
Among the not evil keyblade wielders, he's .... 6th strongest at best. 1-3. Sora/Riku/Mickey 4-5. Terra/Aqua 6-7. Roxas/Ventus The exact order doesn't really matter.
i agree with the fact that he is the second most powerful in org XIII, but with the amount of sheer power and how skilled he is with the keyblades and the opportunity, he could be a master. one day that is
People keep forgetting when Roxas fought riku he handed him one of his keyblades, basically nerfing himself during the fight. I don't think you can really understand how strong Roxas is unless you play days. Dual wielding Roxas is just ridiculous
Roxas was only 50 percent Sora at the time too which is pretty powerful. It should be noted that Riku could have ended the fight when he was powerful enough to knock Roxas out for a few seconds when he countered his attack. Instead, he just gave the keyblade back
@@revalier3670 Roxas is well beyond Sora. I'm sorry, but he beat Saix twice by himself. Sora and Xion were mere spectators in the KHIII boss fight, and so... yeah.
@@blissinchains saix fodder
I think Roxas is the 2nd most powerful Keyblade wielder since in days he defeated Xigbar ,Saïx and Multiple Xion copies effortlessly while being 80% weakened and at the end of Days (dual wield) he forced Riku to transform into Ansem then he gets defeated by Riku in Ansem form. In Kingdom hearts 2 Roxas defeats Axel twice , Hayner, Seifer, Vivi and Setzer. At the end of Kingdom hearts 2 he defeats Sora and got him on his knees(which only 3 people done Roxas, Xemnas, Young Xenahnort) . In kingdom hearts 3 he defeated Xemnas and Saïx effortless and helped the guardians of light. Also the fight with Sora Roxas could easily have ended Sora's heart but he was testing himself to see who was stronger in control and he was able to summon his keyblade mid fight in days so that trick Sora did he could've easily avoided it. Roxas able to travel across 3 galaxies in 1 second which is way faster than Sora ever done. This is only having a year with experience then forgetting it.
1. Sora (Kh3)
2.Roxas (Dual wield)
3.Riku
4.Terra / Lingering Will
5. Aqua
6. Roxas (One Keyblade) / Ventus
7. Mickey
8. Sora (kh2) / Xion (full power)
9.Xion / Sora (Kh1)
10 Axel/Lea
11.Kairi
I put Ventus in the same place as Solo Roxas because he destroyed his own heart/ shatter it and defeated Vanitas multiples of times which Aqua, Mickey and even Sora was struggling with.
I think Roxas is actually a high tier Keyblade Weilder, I would put him between Riku and Sora because he is shown to have beaten Both, but Sora's growth in KH3 is somehow exponential enough to the point he is stronger than Riku (Which I don't get) but before that Roxas cleanly beat both of them on separate occasions. He could probably beat KH3 Base Sora in a fight, and probably some of his weaker formchanges, but Double Form would be a great challenge, and Ultima Form would probably mean Sora's victory. But hey, that's just my opinion, Everyone See's it Differently, and I respect your decision.
Imagine him officially learning to use the keyblade and how powerful hat would make him
Well, it only makes sense. Roxas is a fusion between Sora and Ventus' bodies. Sora is an enigma and is a natural with a keyblade, despite never being properly trained. Ventus was trained by one of the greatest keyblade teachers in the series. So, mixing the two would make him theoretically both a prodigy and someone with extensive training.
The only thing holding him back is he is a little reckless and naive, which is compounded twofold due to Sora and Ventus being the same way. That's why he thought he could free Kingdom Hearts and get his life back, when in actuality, it would've just obliterated him as soon as the door opened due to being an entity of darkness.
It's actually pretty accurate though I wouldn't say that Riku is stronger than Sora, especially since Sora have beaten Riku on multiple different occasions which in some he was "juiced up" with extra power as well, they're more or less equals and Sora wins cause he has as good reason as Riku does (which motivates him enough) and he doesn't try to "force" his way like Riku tend to do.
The 2nd part I would disagree is the Sora during the end of KH3, even at his base form he became way too OP, so they're about equal footing with Roxas, of Sora decides to take any form he overwhelms Roxas.
And I say this as someone who's favourite character IS Roxas (when it comes to Sora I'm neutral and when it comes to Riku I want to like him but he's too edgy, I also like Xion).
You forgot in days he was weakened 80% of the game and he still be saix no difficulty
The Roxas vs Sora fight is basically the Ichigo vs Hollow Ichigo conflict, Roxas is a more serious and experienced Sora like Hollow Ichigo is compared to Ichigo.
Well to be fair, in his fight with Saix in KH3, he takes no damage at all. He’s also never fought against Xemnas before, but I have a feeling Roxas would win because when he comes back in KH3, he makes Xemnas panic and jump out of the way. I think it’s safe to say he might be even just as powerful as Sora since the fight between him in KH2, Roxas wins and it’s only through his hubris of “winning” where Sora gets the better of him because Roxas thought he had won
In KH2 it took both Sora and Riku to defeat Final Xemnas, where the same Riku was capable of one shotting Roxas in his Ansem transformation. So by default Roxas would not be capable of defeating Xemnas if it took both Sora and Riku to defeat him. Sora gets progressively more powerful as the series progresses even tho is power level keeps getting reset and at the end/beginning of each game. By the end of KH3 Sora is on a power level that no one else in the series could reach. He defeats Xehanort with the X-Blade which gives him control over Kingdom Hearts itself, with this Xehanort was capable of destroying all of time, space, and creation and to rebuild everything anew from light without any darkness. Sora defeated him in Base and then gains control over the X-Blade, making him literally the strongest person in the series that we know of so far. We don’t know what the Master of Masters is capable of but honestly it isn’t anything compared to what Sora has already don’t and can do with the X-Blade. Whether that be in his character to use it is arguable, because let’s be real Sora would never do that lol
Noah Morgan & Co. well 1, Sora actually beat Xemnas on his own. Final form Xemnas has the power of his damaged Kingdom hearts at that point in time and that’s why it took both Sora and Riku to kill him. As for KH3, Sora dies while going against Xehanort and that’s a fact because there was an intentional cutscene that shows this. It’s only through his friendship that he wins in the end when they do a trinity blast or something. Also I think it’s unfair to say Xehanorts grasp of Kingdom Hearts was completely 100% as he could’ve killed Sora in the spot if that was the case. Now going back to Roxas losing to Riku, he was caught off guard. It was the same reason he lost to Riku when he did to Sora and in both fights he initially won (except for his fight with Riku where for some reason he only uses one of his keyblades, loses, but then wakes back up to continue fighting). If Roxas was to fight Xemnas, I doubt that Roxas would lose for those reasons that you stated. I ain’t saying you’re points aren’t good though, but I think you kinda under estimated his power or over estimated everyone else’s
@@noahmorganco.7682 Riku has to use his Ansem Form in order to do it, he can't use his darkness to the same extent without him transforming. Riku (Ansem Form) > Roxas > Riku (Xemnas Fight)
@@noahmorganco.7682 You underestimate Roxas. Sora got more training time and experience. Roxas was really powerful despite only being a year old. If he'd train and fight and master the keyblade he'd be able to take on Xemnas without much difficulty. A barely year old Roxas beat the shit out of Riku and Sora. With training and more battle experience it would make him strong enough to defeat Xemnas
@@thomaswest2583 Roxas has never defeated sora.
Tbh i feel when sora vs roxas. Sora is just lucky. Roax pressured him so hard. Idk what happen and how did it happen that his keyblade suddenly teleported to him. And roxas was caught off guard and so he got defeated. If he play more safe i feel he's stronger than sora. ( just how i feel no hate pls)
All key blade users can do that except Zion hell I think even she can do it it’s not a surprise
@@dunnesevods YES this is what I have been telling people sora only beat roxas because of plot armor in my opinion both riku and roxas are stronger than sora
I said he’s above riku since he scars of zemnes is able to beat dark riku base form with only one keyblade he’s also able to fight head to head wirh kh2 sora who defeated saix and sora and a lot of the other organizations members tho riku also bitched some people. like the dude is around sora’s level literally only people who could beat him is xenohart sora and maybe riku everyone else would get fucked by him
I don't think power scaling applies in Kingdom Hearts with too much extent. Captain Hook could even beat Xigbar with the right strategy. Of course very weak characters can't even touch the strongest (Hayner vs Ansem) , but I don't think Roxas is superior to Riku. They are pretty strong Keyblade Wielders prodigies and one could beat the other in a fight.
Riku was losing and used all the power of darkness He had to beat him. That's all. That doesn't mean Riku is superior or whatsoever, He just used everything He could, like in a samurai duel.
I think roxas is stronger then sora atm. Xemnas would get his ass handed to him by roxas. Sora however has been reset from his abilities twice and most likley a 3rd because he saved kiari from death. Sora is ganna be stronger no question but roxas is king atm
Xemnas was literally so afraid of fighting him that he kidnapped the weakest person present and bailed immediately. That should say everything we need to know.
Among the not evil keyblade wielders, he's .... 6th strongest at best.
1-3. Sora/Riku/Mickey
4-5. Terra/Aqua
6-7. Roxas/Ventus
The exact order doesn't really matter.