I finally did it. I went into a church for a Sunday service this morning. It was a strange experience. Obviously it didn't suddenly change my mind about belief, but it did have it's own kind of beauty. People observing tradition and experiencing community. It was a Catholic church, so I witnessed the singing and the kneeling and the taking of communion and and the robes the holy water at the entrance. All stuff that I had only ever seen on TV.
@@misterdoctor9693check out the Orthodox Church, when the pope went governing body to the early christian churches 4 out of 5 rejected him, those are the orthodox, I’m not orthodox I’m not down with kissing paintings, but theosis , union with God is the goal and they also understand the Mesopotamian context and symbols well
The example given at 15:45 of being invited to a reception with a government official strikes me as odd, given that JWs are meant to stay out of politics, no?
Brilliant. My wife left during covid. She keeps asking me what am I waiting for. I really don't have a valid excuse any more. The more ridiculous gb updates I see the more I think she's right.
Yes!!! Excellent point. What scripture did they use before and what scripture changed their position. These people are so lost in their twisted reasonings… so easy to see their lies!
Here we have the old school JW’s not happy with the changes,and the new ones acting like it’s no big deal. This causes a division in which the GB probably did not think would happen. What’s going on in my opinion is I think this is causing some JW’s to start questioning the credibility of the men in New York which is the opposite of what the GB wants their members to do. I have been pretty correct so far with my theories but I also have another theory that this year will be the biggest decline in members in their history.
Unfortunately, even if this year does show the biggest drop in members ever (and it would be tough to beat 1976), I find it very hard to believe they would report it honestly. Hopefully I’m wrong.
They’ve been talking this way for decades! I first noticed the dumbed down language in their literature about 30 years ago. I was quite surprised and asked a JW woman I know why this tone was being used. She got quite embarrassed because she was educated and really had no answer. Then when I looked into their new format of videos from the GB I was appalled at the infantile and condescending tone these men used. I quickly realized that it was a psychological mind trick intended to reduce Jehovah’s Witnesses to the level of children. It surprises me that more of them don’t understand this tone of wheedling condescension is an insult to an average person’s intelligence. And worse, it serves to debase the average witness to the level of a somewhat mentally challenged child!!
Well, according to them that would be disrespectful to the name of their god, don’t you know 😅? As a raised in longtime exjw, I’m not comfortable speaking that name, nor even writing it, knowing what I now do about it’s origins and how it came to be adapted into the name of this cult… Just saying.
So did Rutherford have it wrong too with no beards? Funny, if God gave man beards, and allowed them to grow to any length before, He turned around and gave Rutherford the Holy Order to make men clean shaven? And He now has approved the GB to allow unshaven again if they so choose? WOW. The GB is really being shown the new light. So I wonder what it will be next month. They are so full of it, they must all have brown eyes
"On a quiet Warwick highway, cult's grip in the air The scent of obedience, spreading everywhere Up ahead in the compound, I saw a glowing sign My mind grew heavy, as I approached gate. I had to stay for a while There they stood at the entrance I heard the elders' call And I was thinking to myself "This could be freedom, or a damned Kingdom Hall. Then they handed me a pamphlet, and they showed me the way There were plastic smiles and greetings.. I thought I heard them say Welcome to the Kingdom hall of Jehovah Such a holy place (Such a holy place) Such a double face Plenty of rules in the kingdom hall of Jehovah Any time you're near (Any time you're near) You will feel the fear Their faith is tightly twisted, they've got the narrow bends They've got a lot of strict, strict rules, that they call 'friends' How they pray in the courtyard, with a covert threat, Some pray to remember, most pray to forget So I asked the preacher "Please show me what to do with my life." He said, "We haven't had that talking here since nineteen seventy five." And still those lies we are preaching from far away Wake you up screaming in the middle of the night Just to make you obey and say... Welcome to the Kingdom hall of Jehovah Such a sacred place (Such a dreadful place) Such a double face They're living it down in the Cult they call Jehovah's What a harsh surprise (What a harsh surprise) Hide your doubts and lies Chains on the ceiling And committee men thrice And they said "We are all just judges here, of our own device" And in the star chamber They gathered for the rite They stab you with their judgmental knives But they just can't see the light Last thing I remember I was searching for the door I had to find the freedom back to the life I had before "Relax," said the elder "We are programmed to believe. You can walk out any time you like... but you can never leave." Welcome to the Kingdom hall of Jehovah, such a sacred place (Such a dreadful place) Such a double face They're living it down in the Cult they call Jehovah What a harsh surprise (What a harsh surprise) Hide your doubts and lies.
@@theoriginalwaterbaby be my guest!. Probably run into copyright issues if you use the same tune. But it's the thoughts it provokes as satire which is fair use I suppose. 👹
Which is it? "No part of the world" or dress "like they do in our time" ? They just make the bible say whatever they want. Anybody would have to be silly to be connected with these people in any way
Update number five women can wear short shorts and tank tops at the Kingdom Hall and men can where Speedos with white muscle shirts that's coming in 2 weeks at the Kingdom Hall
Sadly their kindergarten indoctrination kept me hostage for 38 yrs. Reading the WT and HAVING to repeat in your own words does that. It’s like a kindergarten classroom. It stays embedded.
True story. I was at a Catholic Church in Los Angeles. It was 105 degrees outside. It was a very wealthy neighborhood. Sherman oaks. There was a homeless lady sleeping in the pew snoring loudly. She had 2-3 bags all about her and a priest walks in and sees her. He taps her on the shoulder and she wakes up. He said “is there anything I can get for u? Is there anything u need?”
Eventually the old witnesses will die off. There are already those there that have no idea what it was like or even what the religion believed back in the 80’s . The GB is desperately trying to survive but they still can’t give up their total control. The reason other religions can keep their followers is because they can work and earn money they can have careers. The witnesses cannot survive financially if they keep the stranglehold and as the religion needs follower’s money to keep going, they are in a catch 22
The fact that they have to even do this is hysterical. I can just imagine the mountains of complaints that they're receiving. They just continuously make things so much more difficult than they have to be. I used to think that this religion could be taken down by outside influences, but I now of the firm opinion that eventually they will ruin it themselves. There's just not enough popcorn in the world for this.
I’ve also been thinking this dress code thing has been introduced to deflect the consternation over their previous changes about the time counting in the ministry and men wearing beards. Too many changes too soon for some of them. But it does look as if a great many JWs can’t stomach all these changes and they’re rebelling. I have a clear mental image of large sisters coming to meetings wearing trousers that don’t look becoming or fit properly. It also seemed to me that over the past few decades JW women have been slowly conditioned to accept a dowdy appearance. When I was in women wore attractive outfits, had their hair styled and in general were better groomed than the women now.
@@joanferguson4194I used to look forward to the district assemblies, not for the spiritual food” but to gaze at the sisters who were dressed immaculately, shortish skirts, high heels the lot.
"but the emotional appeal of this cult is feeling superior to everyone who does not look exactly like we do. How are we supposed to feel the appeal of being in a cult when the cult looks like the rest of the worlds religions?"
Jehovah is actually the Vatican when you start to do real digging. Yod He Vav He or the so-called Tetragrammaton does not spell Jehovah so why do people still use it.
Do these guys have to attend a course where they learn how to speak to adults as if they were 8-year-olds who are wondering why they "have to eat their spinach."?
Seems like the watchtower is crumbling and are unable to stop the bleeding. Its both sad and shocking at the great lengths they're going to just to keep people from leaving. Even worse the amount of desperation that the governing body is showing just to stay relevant and attractive to people.
Hypocrites, Bethelites take a vow of poverty. And some of these guys are obese, wear fine clothing and expensive jewelry, which are The very things they tell the layman they can't be doing. 😢
The more they try to explain the "new" directions, the more they are confusing it's members! So happy I don't have to follow them anymore, what is the saying " follow us even if it doesn't make sense." Do they hear what they are saying?
If I had to take a guess, it would be to appear as if they are like any other Christian denomination. It looks more attractive to outsiders if they appear like any other Christian church. If they didn't do that, even people who weren't familiar with JWs would think right away that it's a cult.
Yeah! I remember being told by a couple of elders that if I was asked if I was a Christian, to say, "No, I'm a Jehovah's Witness!" So much has changed over the years!
@@ionasan I'm not sure about that. They call themselves the "Christian congregation", not "one of the congregations". They believe that no one else is Christian - only "Jehovah's organization" can make that claim. But I think you're right about them wanting to be perceived as more "mainstream", for sure.
I was wondering about that, I was asked that too, I said they belive Jesus died for there sins, so I guess there Christians in that sence. And they believe in christ, but other Christians follow Christ as an example and JW follow Jehovah.
I threw out all my jw clothing back in 2018 when I dissociated, maybe I should have kept them , just in case I ever get invited to a 1940,s fancy dress party .
My guess is there will be problems with this new sense of freedom. What do they consider acceptable pants for women? Frumpy Kamala Harris/Hillary Clinton type pantsuits for women over 50? Younger women will no doubt opt for something a little more youthful which could possibly reveal the shape of their hips and more curves than the GB had in mind. Are there any rules that hips have to be covered with a blouse or jacket? If not, I can see possible violations galore. But if brothers are now allowed to abandon their jackets and reveal their physical form it would be a double standard to tell sisters they have to cover theirs up. I feel they may have placed themselves in a Catch22.
@@mollymalone2838 I still remember the time I was giving a presentation at the KH when I was about 15. A married elder, that my elder father ironically brought into "the truth" cornered him after the meeting to complain that my dress had creeped up on the side as I was giving my presentation. I had actually tucked the dress underneath me in an effort to be modest, but it apparently had creeped up on the side around knee level. He told my father that he had found it very distracting. My first thought was why is a married elder being distracted by a 15 year old? I remember my mother telling me after the meeting "If he gets that turned on over a knee what does he do in the real world." lol My point is, if men can get excited over a knee just imagine how excited they will be when a pair of shapely hips wiggle on by. lol
@@mollymalone2838 I'm so sorry you went through that. No one should have to reveal the "details" of their mistake. The fact that they admit it should be enough without having to reveal the salient details. As far as I'm concerned it's immorality for the elders to know the details. They may as well watch pornography if they are going to be listening to it. It's also Not Fair to the elders wives for those elders to be privy to a 19 year old's most personal information. Personally, I don't feel that Jesus would approve of it at all. The purpose of the organization is to provide spiritual food not to conduct an inquisition. Jesus is the judge of us all not a group of imperfect men who are susceptible to their own immoral thoughts.
I'm so glad you touched on 1 Tomothy 2: 9,10 mentioning braids, gold or expensive clothing. It makes me NUTS that this is taken figuratively but a scripture such as abstaining from blood, causing people to die, or no one being accused of a crime if there are not two wittnesses causing so many to be abused and ignored are taken so literally with no thought to "adustments". God is so concerned with out attire that those adjustments are necassary but adjustments to severly detrimental and life changing situations get no consideration. And despite all his blabbering, he still did not clarify anything. He basically said "use your common sense, you wouldnt wear to the beach what you would a wedding". Ok, thanks for that bro, so glad you had to explain that. His way of speaking is so freaking belittling and degrading. It's unbelievable that people would tolerate someone talking to them like that as if they're all a bunch of morons and still cotinue to let those people lead their organization. Its all just so baffling.
They need to come right out and assure everyone that THERE WILL BE NO BACK ROOM MEETINGS OVER YOUR GROOMING CHOICES ......WE TRUST YOU TO CONTROL YOURSELVES 🙏
I think the reason for this update is that maybe things have gotten a little out of control with members taking too many personal liberties. I personally believe the reason they did away with the book study, was because it allowed for too much independent thinking. These recent changes on dress, beards, no counting of time, etc... probably have the GB needing to regain control because in their minds, things might be getting out of hand. Oops, we made a mistake!
Watchtower treats JW’s like kids. They tell you what to wear and how to groom yourself. Clean your ❤️ heart first. Babysitting your flock is Plain stupidity.
That 1 Timothy passage clearly says women shouldn't flaunt their _money_ in their dress. Nothing to do with telling women that male lust is women's problem
That was when pant suits became the new fashion statement and lots of us wanted to wear them because the length of our skirts always seemed to be an issue! But that got shut down in a hurry.
Right on: I cannot believe that a leader of JW is even wasting time talking about grooming: This is very superficial, and ridiculous. Grooming is the most important aspect of being religious, believing in God, helping people in need etc. Who would join a religion that talks only about grooming: The way you dress pleases Jehovah.............. I'm confused 😒, what kind of God is Jehovah?
@@ShoNuffSoulBro1 Yes just saying does not make it true. The same thing by saying ‘ we are Jehovah’s people.’ Yet the gov body make millions of their followers believe they are not included in new covenant and are also not in God’s spiritual congregation. The gov body are spiritually killing millions!
"Opinions of men" would sum up Windor's clarification. For me personally, the allowance of beards IS the loosening of standards for the JW men. It was & still is, all about control. What's funny is that the allowance of beards has stumbled me. Now, what was it the bible said about stumbling someone.......
So if your around when Jesus returns & has a beard, that will stumble you & u won't believe it's him? Ooyea He's Never coming back to earth, he returned invisibley
@vanbraxton8422 , like I had stated, it's all about control. The JW's & the rest of Christianity are based on a book(the bible) that is filled with contradictions & inconsistencies. If you wish to believe in a savior, then good for you.
@@vanbraxton8422 : I’m not sure if your comment was meant to be sarcastic or not but WT has definitely stumbled many people with their hypocrisy, gaslighting and flip-flopping doctrines; and we all know the ominous warning the bible provides for those who stumble even least ones …
How can this guy stand there in his free tailored suit and then dictate what you should or should not wear after you payed for his tailored suit 🤦♀️ Great video ❤
So why is he giving this update? Talking to kids seemingly,like they always do,and go into detail to be sure witnesses get it. Do you get it children? It’s so the world can come on in, they need them.
But to be fair, a woman's body shape at the legs and hips will make more men stumble, than the amount of women that a man's body shape at the legs and hips will make stumble 😘
@KipCorn-hm1zc "And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away" Men should mind THEIR own business. Women are not responsible for these toddlers... Also these creeps marry teens regardless of what they wear let's be real...
The implication is sisters dressing modestly is to prevent brothers from lustful thoughts. That’s such BS. To paraphrase my daughter, if you as a man can’t control your impulses, that’s a you problem. This org is a joke
Sounds like the watchtower is taking its rhetoric from another religion “of peace”-it would have the sisters covered from head to toe to stop the brothers having lustful thoughts- of course it’s all the women’s fault
Yeah , but there's just one problem. Individuality. Try showing up at one of their indoctrinations with a black bible Or try having conversations without using their branded jargon.
Changes in Doctrine = Losses in Congregants; especially since the day before the change families were being destroyed, lives were being ruined, people died and committed self-unliving themselves rather than seen as show out and be disfellowshipped and be shunned as disruptive, unconvinced, unruly, unfaithful and were just plain disgusted with all the nonsense.
Whether a woman is wearing pants or dress to the kingdom hall it does not really matters as long as its modest ,what matters is what is in your hearts.
In our old congregation, there were two elders wives, who were best friends, who wore very tight dresses & little teeny tiny high heels. They were both gorgeous, and because they were elders wives they dressed how they liked. When they would go door-to-door, the householders routinely thought they were selling Avon. 😂 Their dress certainly didn't scream JW to the general public. My point is the hypocrisy is nothing new! And I have wondered how they all must look now in their "slacks". 👀
@user-pe6mm6ry8q One time a circuit overseer said to the two elders, "I know your wives have nice bodies, and do you know why?" And then he just walked away. It was the talk of the whole hall for months. The wives didn't change how they dressed. I wondered if either of them knew that people talked about them? It's sad when I think about it now. 🫤
Let's remember the information boards at the Kingdom Halls where one could see illustrations showing appropriate dress attire for men and women. If you planned on visiting Watchtower, same dress codes were recommended. Basically all the changes being passed, even not reporting ministry time like in the past, never really mattered to begin with. Man made religious mind pretzels. And one added biased thought coming from a woman, this GB person immediately gave me a creepy feeling. I'm not trying to be mean, but just bad vibes.
This Windor guy does look creepy! I’ve often thought how most of them, GB and their helpers, come across as weak minded sycophants with no personality or intellectual gravitas!
In my humble opinion it seems to me that the GB is the one that gave a "cause of stumbling...no fault maybe found with our ministry" when their prophecies failed to happen. Would that not be a greater cause for stumbling, then women wearing pants and men having beards? All this seems rediculas, considering JW's KNOW what is proper to wear and what not to wear. What could possibly be the misunderstanding there?
Just ridiculous then why cant women wear mini skirts or bikinis i am not saying to wear it at church but when you out and about its really none of their business as far as modesty goes that refers to being of good character again the watchtower are a bunch of control freaks
The new dress has been different. I remember when I would head to a club or a bar I'd look around so see if there were witnesses in the area (not hard to find). Now you can't tell. 😂
Hey John Analyzer, yeah you analyze very well. I'm very confident that you're giving the org a severe headache as a result of your spot on commentaries.
The beard issue woke me up 25 years ago. I was 17 and a landscaper. I started growing a beard for the winter. Only for practical reasons, not for fashion. The presiding overseer didn't take me aside, he just openly started interrogating me after meeting. When I told him it was safer than a scarf, he snapped and said he expected me to be clean shaven at the next meeting. He turned to walk away and i ,'but, what about' and pointed out another that had a bead. He said he's a lineman ($$$). And he's not baptized. I grabbed my Bible and asked, "where does it say we cant wear beards?" That's when he got pissed and loudly proclaimed, "the governing body has said..." I didn't hear the rest. Between demeanor and citing men instead of scripture, that made question everything. It took a couple years of agnosticism, but i finally went full atheist.
They are changing their brand because the old brand isn’t working anymore. Yes, a paradigm shift from 1914 generation, Armageddon, door to door ministry and even disfellowshipping etc. They will even change their name to a Jesus type of religion. That’s why my brother-in-law a 50 year elder had to step down. Reason, he’s too old and doesn’t want or like big changes. He even posted on his Linkin page that he is retired from the WTBTS.
Correction: This is 2024 update #3 not #4.
I finally did it. I went into a church for a Sunday service this morning. It was a strange experience. Obviously it didn't suddenly change my mind about belief, but it did have it's own kind of beauty. People observing tradition and experiencing community. It was a Catholic church, so I witnessed the singing and the kneeling and the taking of communion and and the robes the holy water at the entrance. All stuff that I had only ever seen on TV.
@@misterdoctor9693check out the Orthodox Church, when the pope went governing body to the early christian churches 4 out of 5 rejected him, those are the orthodox, I’m not orthodox I’m not down with kissing paintings, but theosis , union with God is the goal and they also understand the Mesopotamian context and symbols well
You, sir, are right! Freedom begins in the mind! I say this as a Christian, and as an ex conservative who became a classical liberal!
The example given at 15:45 of being invited to a reception with a government official strikes me as odd, given that JWs are meant to stay out of politics, no?
Damage control is not working for them
I just left the organization today. Wrote my letter of disassociation, took it and dropped it off in their mailbox.
That’s awesome!!!
Welcome to your new life!
Brilliant.
My wife left during covid.
She keeps asking me what am I waiting for.
I really don't have a valid excuse any more.
The more ridiculous gb updates I see the more I think she's right.
Welcome to freedom
Excellent live your life to the full now!!!
Jehovah now puts his trust in men! These arrogant pharisees have no limit. 😂
Seems to me that is what they are, pharisees and we know what Jesus said about the pharisees.
💯
Excellent comment!
who cares i dont worship any positive and negetive gods out there.
2 Peter 2:19"They promise them freedom, but they themselves are slaves of corruption, since people are enslaved to whatever defeats them".
“We are thankful that Jehovah trusts us in these matters” - well, evidently Jehovah didn’t for quite a long time. So, why the trust now?
Bingo! Good laugh and good logic!
Yes!!! Excellent point. What scripture did they use before and what scripture changed their position. These people are so lost in their twisted reasonings… so easy to see their lies!
Remember, they said "The Governing Body has decided..."👈that right there. No mention of Jehovah when they made these changes. Liars🤦🏽♀️!
That's what I was thinking! Thanks
Especially when the change was announced with, "The governing body has decided." 🤦🏻♂️
This talk should be called : "Straining out the gnat and gulping down the camel" !!!!!!
It's also a classic example of treating adults like children.
100!
In other words, the GB is “patronizing”.
When haven't they been? Those in just don't seem to recognize it.
Straining out the camel toe😅
Every talk of theirs !
Here we have the old school JW’s not happy with the changes,and the new ones acting like it’s no big deal. This causes a division in which the GB probably did not think would happen. What’s going on in my opinion is I think this is causing some JW’s to start questioning the credibility of the men in New York which is the opposite of what the GB wants their members to do. I have been pretty correct so far with my theories but I also have another theory that this year will be the biggest decline in members in their history.
Massive schism incoming!
Spot on! 👍
Unfortunately, even if this year does show the biggest drop in members ever (and it would be tough to beat 1976), I find it very hard to believe they would report it honestly. Hopefully I’m wrong.
Hope there is a major decline
@@enkiabzu5792 I'll bring the popcorn!
God is not looking 👀 at your clothes. What’s in your heart ❤️
Exactly
If your heart is in the right place you would dress modestly.
@@tinkthestrange amen
They're blinded by Satan. They've worked really hard in hardening their hearts to please their deceiving spirits
God is a clean God. period.
Yea God is really stressing on pants and beards with everything going on in the world smh 🤦♀️
They will soon roll back all these new changes. People are getting confused and angry...
Man made rules...
I truly wished I was still going to the meetings so i could go dressed in flip-flops, cargo shorts, Metallica t-shirt and my over sized iPad
Go for it ! ! 😜
@@ShoNuffSoulBro1 hahah! I just might. Only thing is I’ll have to shut my brain down and go comatose for 1:45 minutes. 😴
@@hustonmices3976 hahah drink 2 shots and let us know 🤣
Doubt they'd let you up the sidewalk. What they say and what they do allow are still two different things. Complete gaslighting at its finest.
😂😂😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The way he speaks down to people like they were preschoolers infuriates me 😡
They’ve been talking this way for decades! I first noticed the dumbed down language in their literature about 30 years ago. I was quite surprised and asked a JW woman I know why this tone was being used. She got quite embarrassed because she was educated and really had no answer. Then when I looked into their new format of videos from the GB I was appalled at the infantile and condescending tone these men used. I quickly realized that it was a psychological mind trick intended to reduce Jehovah’s Witnesses to the level of children. It surprises me that more of them don’t understand this tone of wheedling condescension is an insult to an average person’s intelligence. And worse, it serves to debase the average witness to the level of a somewhat mentally challenged child!!
The fact is that most members are poorly educated.
Me too!
You must adore Lett then 😅
It’s one of the most disturbing aspects of the religion.
How about they do what's respectable and proper regarding calling police when a child has been r*p3d? How about that, Jeffery Windbag?
Well, according to them that would be disrespectful to the name of their god, don’t you know 😅?
As a raised in longtime exjw, I’m not comfortable speaking that name, nor even writing it, knowing what I now do about it’s origins and how it came to be adapted into the name of this cult…
Just saying.
I have the same sentiments as you - I can't say that name!@@greyberet1
@greyberet1 can you share please I am just leaving jw and need more information
@@Thecrangyviewthere are many videos out there about how JWs got their name…look up Critical thinkers, JT &LadyCee..
Because its the Image of WT that is Paramount,not the abuses taking place within. Judgement is coming.
It’s fascinating that they frame essentially dress code as if it comes from heaven.
So did Rutherford have it wrong too with no beards? Funny, if God gave man beards, and allowed them to grow to any length before, He turned around and gave Rutherford the Holy Order to make men clean shaven? And He now has approved the GB to allow unshaven again if they so choose? WOW. The GB is really being shown the new light. So I wonder what it will be next month. They are so full of it, they must all have brown eyes
came from the past tribes on mars before they were destroyed.
"On a quiet Warwick highway, cult's grip in the air
The scent of obedience, spreading everywhere
Up ahead in the compound, I saw a glowing sign
My mind grew heavy, as I approached gate.
I had to stay for a while
There they stood at the entrance
I heard the elders' call
And I was thinking to myself
"This could be freedom, or a damned Kingdom Hall.
Then they handed me a pamphlet, and they showed me the way
There were plastic smiles and greetings..
I thought I heard them say
Welcome to the Kingdom hall of Jehovah
Such a holy place (Such a holy place)
Such a double face
Plenty of rules in the kingdom hall of Jehovah
Any time you're near (Any time you're near)
You will feel the fear
Their faith is tightly twisted, they've got the narrow bends
They've got a lot of strict, strict rules, that they call 'friends'
How they pray in the courtyard, with a covert threat,
Some pray to remember, most pray to forget
So I asked the preacher
"Please show me what to do with my life."
He said, "We haven't had that talking here since nineteen seventy five."
And still those lies we are preaching from far away
Wake you up screaming in the middle of the night
Just to make you obey and say...
Welcome to the Kingdom hall of Jehovah
Such a sacred place (Such a dreadful place)
Such a double face
They're living it down in the Cult they call Jehovah's
What a harsh surprise (What a harsh surprise)
Hide your doubts and lies
Chains on the ceiling
And committee men thrice
And they said "We are all just judges here, of our own device"
And in the star chamber
They gathered for the rite
They stab you with their judgmental knives
But they just can't see the light
Last thing I remember
I was searching for the door
I had to find the freedom back to the life I had before
"Relax," said the elder
"We are programmed to believe.
You can walk out any time you like... but you can never leave."
Welcome to the Kingdom hall of Jehovah, such a sacred place (Such a dreadful place)
Such a double face
They're living it down in the Cult they call Jehovah
What a harsh surprise (What a harsh surprise)
Hide your doubts and lies.
Welcome to hotel hellafornia😂😂 well done
Brilliant alternative lyrics!
This needs recording!!
@@theoriginalwaterbaby be my guest!. Probably run into copyright issues if you use the same tune. But it's the thoughts it provokes as satire which is fair use I suppose. 👹
Love this! Awesome lyrics!✅👍💯
Which is it? "No part of the world" or dress "like they do in our time" ? They just make the bible say whatever they want. Anybody would have to be silly to be connected with these people in any way
The infantilization of the rank and file by the gb/org about this contrived issue is what I can’t stand. So glad I left.
That's what cults do. They infantilize people and prevent them from individuating and differentiating into their own person.
Well the Pharisees wer very concerned with the length of the fringes we’re long enough😮
This is what happens when you treat people like infants...😊
wah, wah, wah, wah..............
Control freaks!
Update number five women can wear short shorts and tank tops at the Kingdom Hall and men can where Speedos with white muscle shirts that's coming in 2 weeks at the Kingdom Hall
😂😂😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻Oh Lord just Imagine
"The Governing body has decided, that it is appropriate for Sisters to wear short skirts and Tank Tops in the ministry"🤣
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Wife beaters
Exactly, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
In the Name of Jesus !!!!!!!!
GB STOP TALKING TO PEOPLE LIKE THEY ARE 3 YEARS OLD !!!!
Sadly their kindergarten indoctrination kept me hostage for 38 yrs. Reading the WT and HAVING to repeat in your own words does that. It’s like a kindergarten classroom. It stays embedded.
True story.
I was at a Catholic Church in Los Angeles. It was 105 degrees outside. It was a very wealthy neighborhood. Sherman oaks. There was a homeless lady sleeping in the pew snoring loudly. She had 2-3 bags all about her and a priest walks in and sees her. He taps her on the shoulder and she wakes up.
He said “is there anything I can get for u? Is there anything u need?”
And she replied “What I need is fo’ yo’ azz to leave my azz ALONE. I needs a NaP ! !
That is a real follower of Christ caring for fellow man.
@@freespirit3891"Or woman" Sorry... Python flashback😂
Jehovah's Witnesses call the police believe it
Jon, we are so glad to have you back! Your videos still help me see things that I would have otherwise not seen. You have such an analytical mind!
Eventually the old witnesses will die off. There are already those there that have no idea what it was like or even what the religion believed back in the 80’s . The GB is desperately trying to survive but they still can’t give up their total control. The reason other religions can keep their followers is because they can work and earn money they can have careers. The witnesses cannot survive financially if they keep the stranglehold and as the religion needs follower’s money to keep going, they are in a catch 22
The fact that they have to even do this is hysterical. I can just imagine the mountains of complaints that they're receiving. They just continuously make things so much more difficult than they have to be. I used to think that this religion could be taken down by outside influences, but I now of the firm opinion that eventually they will ruin it themselves. There's just not enough popcorn in the world for this.
I’ve also been thinking this dress code thing has been introduced to deflect the consternation over their previous changes about the time counting in the ministry and men wearing beards. Too many changes too soon for some of them. But it does look as if a great many JWs can’t stomach all these changes and they’re rebelling. I have a clear mental image of large sisters coming to meetings wearing trousers that don’t look becoming or fit properly. It also seemed to me that over the past few decades JW women have been slowly conditioned to accept a dowdy appearance. When I was in women wore attractive outfits, had their hair styled and in general were better groomed than the women now.
@@joanferguson4194I used to look forward to the district assemblies, not for the spiritual food” but to gaze at the sisters who were dressed immaculately, shortish skirts, high heels the lot.
"but the emotional appeal of this cult is feeling superior to everyone who does not look exactly like we do. How are we supposed to feel the appeal of being in a cult when the cult looks like the rest of the worlds religions?"
Ha true
Cults like their people unsure and confused
The governing body is Jehovah. It means the governing body trusts the governing body.
Jehovah is actually the Vatican when you start to do real digging. Yod He Vav He or the so-called Tetragrammaton does not spell Jehovah so why do people still use it.
Do these guys have to attend a course where they learn how to speak to adults as if they were 8-year-olds who are wondering why they "have to eat their spinach."?
Seems like the watchtower is crumbling and are unable to stop the bleeding. Its both sad and shocking at the great lengths they're going to just to keep people from leaving. Even worse the amount of desperation that the governing body is showing just to stay relevant and attractive to people.
Why don´t they talk about the Governing Body´s obesity and abvious gluttony and sloth lifstyles, those hardcore hypocrites
Good point! Have often wondered about the obesity of most GB men! Sanderson for one looks as if his face is being engulfed by rolls of fat.
@@joanferguson4194 : He’s SanderClaus don’t you know? And he’s storing up fat for the great winter tribulation!
Hypocrites, Bethelites take a vow of poverty. And some of these guys are obese, wear fine clothing and expensive jewelry, which are The very things they tell the layman they can't be doing. 😢
Gluttony is not the cause of the modern obesity epidemic in America.
Why don't you know that?
Same thought. Bunch of clueless chubbers
As a Never JW. How infantile do you have to be to belong to this organization? This is hilarious.
Of course, you are a superior person, aren't you?
Much better, smarter, more mature than any JW, aren't you.
So ignorant and arrogant.
Look.its quite clear now ...
Men can wear pants and women can have beards . ...
Got it ..ok ?!!
TRUE STORY 😅❤😂
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But not tight pants😂
Oh good, my older sister doesn't have to shave anymore!!
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I gotta go wee now😂😂😂😂
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
The more they try to explain the "new" directions, the more they are confusing it's members! So happy I don't have to follow them anymore, what is the saying " follow us even if it doesn't make sense." Do they hear what they are saying?
WHY are they calling themselves CHRISTIANS now they never used that word when I was growing up in the cult
If I had to take a guess, it would be to appear as if they are like any other Christian denomination. It looks more attractive to outsiders if they appear like any other Christian church. If they didn't do that, even people who weren't familiar with JWs would think right away that it's a cult.
Yeah! I remember being told by a couple of elders that if I was asked if I was a Christian, to say, "No, I'm a Jehovah's Witness!" So much has changed over the years!
My grandmother joined the JWs in the 1930s. Back then, they claimed to not be a religion at all, let alone an offshoot of Christianity.
@@ionasan I'm not sure about that. They call themselves the "Christian congregation", not "one of the congregations". They believe that no one else is Christian - only "Jehovah's organization" can make that claim. But I think you're right about them wanting to be perceived as more "mainstream", for sure.
I was wondering about that, I was asked that too, I said they belive Jesus died for there sins, so I guess there Christians in that sence. And they believe in christ, but other Christians follow Christ as an example and JW follow Jehovah.
I threw out all my jw clothing back in 2018 when I dissociated, maybe I should have kept them , just in case I ever get invited to a 1940,s fancy dress party .
Lmao 🤣 the long flowey skirts were at least comfy
Same. Sent them to the Goodwill so the sheep still in the pen could buy them.
My guess is there will be problems with this new sense of freedom. What do they consider acceptable pants for women? Frumpy Kamala Harris/Hillary Clinton type pantsuits for women over 50? Younger women will no doubt opt for something a little more youthful which could possibly reveal the shape of their hips and more curves than the GB had in mind. Are there any rules that hips have to be covered with a blouse or jacket? If not, I can see possible violations galore. But if brothers are now allowed to abandon their jackets and reveal their physical form it would be a double standard to tell sisters they have to cover theirs up. I feel they may have placed themselves in a Catch22.
@@mollymalone2838 I still remember the time I was giving a presentation at the KH when I was about 15. A married elder, that my elder father ironically brought into "the truth" cornered him after the meeting to complain that my dress had creeped up on the side as I was giving my presentation. I had actually tucked the dress underneath me in an effort to be modest, but it apparently had creeped up on the side around knee level. He told my father that he had found it very distracting. My first thought was why is a married elder being distracted by a 15 year old? I remember my mother telling me after the meeting "If he gets that turned on over a knee what does he do in the real world." lol My point is, if men can get excited over a knee just imagine how excited they will be when a pair of shapely hips wiggle on by. lol
@@mollymalone2838 I'm so sorry you went through that. No one should have to reveal the "details" of their mistake. The fact that they admit it should be enough without having to reveal the salient details. As far as I'm concerned it's immorality for the elders to know the details. They may as well watch pornography if they are going to be listening to it. It's also Not Fair to the elders wives for those elders to be privy to a 19 year old's most personal information. Personally, I don't feel that Jesus would approve of it at all. The purpose of the organization is to provide spiritual food not to conduct an inquisition. Jesus is the judge of us all not a group of imperfect men who are susceptible to their own immoral thoughts.
I'm so glad you touched on 1 Tomothy 2: 9,10 mentioning braids, gold or expensive clothing. It makes me NUTS that this is taken figuratively but a scripture such as abstaining from blood, causing people to die, or no one being accused of a crime if there are not two wittnesses causing so many to be abused and ignored are taken so literally with no thought to "adustments". God is so concerned with out attire that those adjustments are necassary but adjustments to severly detrimental and life changing situations get no consideration. And despite all his blabbering, he still did not clarify anything. He basically said "use your common sense, you wouldnt wear to the beach what you would a wedding". Ok, thanks for that bro, so glad you had to explain that. His way of speaking is so freaking belittling and degrading. It's unbelievable that people would tolerate someone talking to them like that as if they're all a bunch of morons and still cotinue to let those people lead their organization. Its all just so baffling.
They definitely pick and choose what they want to enforce🙄🙄🙄
They need to come right out and assure everyone that THERE WILL BE NO BACK ROOM MEETINGS OVER YOUR GROOMING CHOICES ......WE TRUST YOU TO CONTROL YOURSELVES 🙏
Oh my goodness, the gaslighting is too much for me!!
It feels like Watchtower is operating in a Bounce House ...The wind of the world is about to blow them away into the ash heap of history ....😮
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Update x: men can wear skirts.. 👍🏽👍🏽 But I won't be showing my legs in a Kingdom Hall anytime soon
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I think the reason for this update is that maybe things have gotten a little out of control with members taking too many personal liberties. I personally believe the reason they did away with the book study, was because it allowed for too much independent thinking. These recent changes on dress, beards, no counting of time, etc... probably have the GB needing to regain control because in their minds, things might be getting out of hand. Oops, we made a mistake!
They used to have picnics, cookouts roller rink get togethers, now it's strictly corporate.
Watch. your. back.
💁♂️. . . And the "hits" just keep on coming ! 🤦♂️
The watchtower governing body is FULL...OF...SHIT!
correct, religion is a scam.
I liken it to a mushroom farm, kept in the dark and full of B/S.
Watchtower treats JW’s like kids. They tell you what to wear and how to groom yourself. Clean your ❤️ heart first. Babysitting your flock is Plain stupidity.
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the jehovah witness god hebrew god and egypt god are all connected.
Boring!!!! 🥱 these people talk down and their monotone voices put me to sleep…
Manipulation 🤮
Monotone, yet with a liberal feminine twist
He kinda sounds like Winnie the pooh.
So, they are giving the green light, and breaking the old rules, now they are readjusting the rules again. Aiwee ! Never ending rules & regulations 🙄
The Narcissism needed to self proclaim yourself a king (kings) like maybe let god judge you first .dispicable
That 1 Timothy passage clearly says women shouldn't flaunt their _money_ in their dress. Nothing to do with telling women that male lust is women's problem
They rolled the slacks for women back very quickly in the 1970s
That was when pant suits became the new fashion statement and lots of us wanted to wear them because the length of our skirts always seemed to be an issue! But that got shut down in a hurry.
Update 6... tight pants can be worn
LoL. U ain’t right.
Organisation is run by fools.
The utter nosense of this cult
This guy speaks like he’s a guest appearing on Mister Rogers Neighborhood
Except Mr Roger's didn't lie lol
Right on: I cannot believe that a leader of JW is even wasting time talking about grooming: This is very superficial, and ridiculous. Grooming is the most important aspect of being religious, believing in God, helping people in need etc. Who would join a religion that talks only about grooming: The way you dress pleases Jehovah.............. I'm confused 😒, what kind of God is Jehovah?
The wheels of the chariot are falling off!!!
Amazing video. Appreciated how thorough you were in this video
Your videos have helped me a lot, thank you! ❤
How do we know Jehovah trusts the governing body!!!!!!! So beyond stupid😂
How do we know Jehovah trusts the Gooberning Body? Because we say so ! ! Duh 🤪
@@ShoNuffSoulBro1
Yes just saying does not make it true. The same thing by saying ‘ we are Jehovah’s people.’ Yet the gov body make millions of their followers believe they are not included in new covenant and are also not in God’s spiritual congregation.
The gov body are spiritually killing millions!
@@ShoNuffSoulBro1😂
Whenever they say “Jehovah” instead substitute “your unelected Governing Body overlords.”
Their goal is to control every aspect of the member's life.
Beaches? How do you dress appropriately at an all nude beach?
Next they will be telling people how to take a crap
"Opinions of men" would sum up Windor's clarification. For me personally, the allowance of beards IS the loosening of standards for the JW men. It was & still is, all about control. What's funny is that the allowance of beards has stumbled me. Now, what was it the bible said about stumbling someone.......
So if your around when Jesus returns & has a beard, that will stumble you & u won't believe it's him? Ooyea He's Never coming back to earth, he returned invisibley
@vanbraxton8422 , like I had stated, it's all about control. The JW's & the rest of Christianity are based on a book(the bible) that is filled with contradictions & inconsistencies. If you wish to believe in a savior, then good for you.
@@vanbraxton8422 : I’m not sure if your comment was meant to be sarcastic or not but WT has definitely stumbled many people with their hypocrisy, gaslighting and flip-flopping doctrines; and we all know the ominous warning the bible provides for those who stumble even least ones …
Keep them coming, Jon!
I'll only ever go back to a KH once men are allowed to wear dresses.
I think they would all look great in prison stripes.
yes indeed
Agree 👍
also a clever comment
How can this guy stand there in his free tailored suit and then dictate what you should or should not wear after you payed for his tailored suit 🤦♀️ Great video ❤
Frech cuffs, too. I always look at a man's cuffs. French cuffs are expensive & you need cuffs links for them. How austentatious & "Look at me."
So why is he giving this update? Talking to kids seemingly,like they always do,and go into detail to be sure witnesses get it. Do you get it children? It’s so the world can come on in, they need them.
This one brother told my mum my trousers were too tight when his were even tighter then mine! 🤣🤣🤣
But to be fair, a woman's body shape at the legs and hips will make more men stumble, than the amount of women that a man's body shape at the legs and hips will make stumble 😘
@@KipCorn-hm1zcmake them stumble?? Should they all just wear burkas? 😂
@KipCorn-hm1zc "And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away" Men should mind THEIR own business. Women are not responsible for these toddlers... Also these creeps marry teens regardless of what they wear let's be real...
@@nicolarenshaw6460They clearly didn't catch on...
The implication is sisters dressing modestly is to prevent brothers from lustful thoughts. That’s such BS. To paraphrase my daughter, if you as a man can’t control your impulses, that’s a you problem. This org is a joke
Sounds like the watchtower is taking its rhetoric from another religion “of peace”-it would have the sisters covered from head to toe to stop the brothers having lustful thoughts- of course it’s all the women’s fault
Any cult that is not the True Religion will never get things right.
There is no TRUE religion bro....
They are all cults lol
I just wanna say, this channel is among my favorites when it comes to JW informationnal stuff. Thanks for all your work and stay blessed
They shouldn't be penalized if they look fit and beautiful in what they wear.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Yeah , but there's just one problem.
Individuality.
Try showing up at one of their indoctrinations with a black bible Or try having
conversations without using their branded jargon.
Jeffrey ReWinder
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I allways calm this guy " Mickey Mouse" ..😂
Jeffrey Sidewinder
Jeffrey ReWinder; That’s the best one yet ! ! 🤣🤣
I feel comatose listening to the JW's. 😒
😂😂😂
😴 💤 zzZ That’s how I used to feel at every JW convention when I was in 🤣
@@ShoNuffSoulBro1 even just regular meeting.
Hey great video... Its so hard to listen to how the GB talk to the Jehovah's Witnesses... Its so hard!
So when the world fashion change then we dress like the world. Not separate from the world style. Flip-flopping
Changes in Doctrine = Losses in Congregants; especially since the day before the change families were being destroyed, lives were being ruined, people died and committed self-unliving themselves rather than seen as show out and be disfellowshipped and be shunned as disruptive, unconvinced, unruly, unfaithful and were just plain disgusted with all the nonsense.
Why would God not want his worshippers to wear comfortable clothing?
I was scolded by an elder because I wore plain white tennis shoes with a dress for service. This was in the 1990s
And so u never went back.
When he said that, did he also tell you what shoes you should wear, in his opinion?
They always talk from both sides of their mouth. It’s so obvious and so ridiculous that grown *ss adults need instruction on how to dress. 🤯
Whether a woman is wearing pants or dress to the kingdom hall it does not really matters as long as its modest ,what matters is what is in your hearts.
In our old congregation, there were two elders wives, who were best friends, who wore very tight dresses & little teeny tiny high heels. They were both gorgeous, and because they were elders wives they dressed how they liked. When they would go door-to-door, the householders routinely thought they were selling Avon. 😂
Their dress certainly didn't scream JW to the general public. My point is the hypocrisy is nothing new! And I have wondered how they all must look now in their "slacks". 👀
Same this one elder wife in my hall was beautiful and she got away with crazy dresses but no one else
@user-pe6mm6ry8q One time a circuit overseer said to the two elders, "I know your wives have nice bodies, and do you know why?" And then he just walked away. It was the talk of the whole hall for months. The wives didn't change how they dressed. I wondered if either of them knew that people talked about them? It's sad when I think about it now. 🫤
@jodigirl6610 : I’d like to forward a humorous depiction of ‘the slacks’ to you. 😆 (email or insta ?
Let's remember the information boards at the Kingdom Halls where one could see illustrations showing appropriate dress attire for men and women. If you planned on visiting Watchtower, same dress codes were recommended. Basically all the changes being passed, even not reporting ministry time like in the past, never really mattered to begin with. Man made religious mind pretzels. And one added biased thought coming from a woman, this GB person immediately gave me a creepy feeling. I'm not trying to be mean, but just bad vibes.
This Windor guy does look creepy! I’ve often thought how most of them, GB and their helpers, come across as weak minded sycophants with no personality or intellectual gravitas!
In my humble opinion it seems to me that the GB is the one that gave a "cause of stumbling...no fault maybe found with our ministry" when their prophecies failed to happen. Would that not be a greater cause for stumbling, then women wearing pants and men having beards? All this seems rediculas, considering JW's KNOW what is proper to wear and what not to wear. What could possibly be the misunderstanding there?
You are absolutely right ! And to think they actually used to preach against wearing beards because it would stumble some sensitive person.
Just ridiculous then why cant women wear mini skirts or bikinis i am not saying to wear it at church but when you out and about its really none of their business as far as modesty goes that refers to being of good character again the watchtower are a bunch of control freaks
may our creator continue to bless your efforts to be reasonable and honest in your attempt to expose the real "truth" about the Watchtower INC.
The GBs can’t let go of the control. They changed the dress code but now they want to put parameters around it…. Let people be who they are damn….
This Clown is Crazy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
AGREED AGREED AGREED 3 FOR EM.when the GB Agent reads this He will get the Message, which 🤪 Nut Ward did they let him get out of 🎉Cheers Aĺl
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Next thing you know the elders will be wearing skirts or bicycle shorts. Maybe even their own line of clothing, Gluttonwear.
JW Glutton Wear. Let your Obeast run free ! 🤣
The new dress has been different. I remember when I would head to a club or a bar I'd look around so see if there were witnesses in the area (not hard to find). Now you can't tell. 😂
Hey John
Analyzer, yeah you analyze very well.
I'm very confident that you're giving the org a severe headache as a result of your spot on commentaries.
I agress 💯 percent. 🙋
I don't think Windbag is on the Blundering Body .....but hey ,anyone can claim to be anything in Watchtower 😂😂😂😂
He's a newly appointed GB Member. You gotta keep up with the chariot lol
@@EXJWAnalyzer don't worry ....I fell off the wagon a long time ago 🥳✌️
Is he seriously telling us what “appropriate” means? Isn’t it ‘s strange that Jesus didn’t dictate appropriate clothing requirements.
Just like the Pharisees measuring people’s hems.
You know it’s a cult when there are multiple sermons and talks around a dress code. They treat their members like children
The beard issue woke me up 25 years ago. I was 17 and a landscaper. I started growing a beard for the winter. Only for practical reasons, not for fashion. The presiding overseer didn't take me aside, he just openly started interrogating me after meeting. When I told him it was safer than a scarf, he snapped and said he expected me to be clean shaven at the next meeting. He turned to walk away and i ,'but, what about' and pointed out another that had a bead. He said he's a lineman ($$$). And he's not baptized. I grabbed my Bible and asked, "where does it say we cant wear beards?" That's when he got pissed and loudly proclaimed, "the governing body has said..." I didn't hear the rest. Between demeanor and citing men instead of scripture, that made question everything. It took a couple years of agnosticism, but i finally went full atheist.
They are changing their brand because the old brand isn’t working anymore. Yes, a paradigm shift from 1914 generation, Armageddon, door to door ministry and even disfellowshipping etc. They will even change their name to a Jesus type of religion. That’s why my brother-in-law a 50 year elder had to step down. Reason, he’s too old and doesn’t want or like big changes. He even posted on his Linkin page that he is retired from the WTBTS.
Talk is very cheap for the Nine clowns in new York 😂😂😂😂
I’m Catholic
It Blows my mind that JW built a big giant brand new HQ in upstate NY and
Not a single church in the compound.
Crazy
There are no “churches” for JW’s. Only Kingdom Halls for meetings.
🤔think confusion might become so overwhelming that the GB will ,"love" their followers enough to hand out Chairman Mao uniforms?😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
THANK YOU!!!