Correction: I meant to say 9 US Tons When speaking about the Ford CLT9000. Also I meant to say the WWS 4964 weighs 10 US Tons… My apologies, 47 mins of straight talking had a few mistakes :)
Bro you are the golden snow runner guru it's ok we understand no biggie, most of us snow runner fans know and learn in time especially with help from people like you who care and blossom the game love 👍💪👏
@@vladvulcan According to my Switch, I have played 550 hours of Snowrunner, but it’s actually more like 800 (Switch transfer stopped the counter and it won’t start counting again). Province has played Snowrunner for almost 5 times more than me. Basically, NProv is like the Snowrunner master. The only person who can beat his Snowrunnerness is Esorokin himself.
I have learned so much from your videos that I finally dared to start the game from the hardest level right from the beginning. I have already played over 800 hours on the normal level, but I am looking forward to playing on the hardest level. Thank you very much for all your videos, in which you described these trucks and everything else in detail and accurately, in a way that I would have never thought of, like "hey, this can be done like this!" Many thanks and greetings from Finland!
Thank you so much for that donation and those kind words! I’m glad I can inspire you test yourself! You got this. I believe you’ll have so much enjoyment on your new challenge
I have been using the updated W990 in Yellowrock. This Truck is literally built for drifting, it has tons of power, Rear-wheel-drive only and a diff-lock thats always on. It is a pretty scary with the physics of snowrunner but i love it
I kept using the White Western Star even after getting the OP Russian trucks. It's just so much more versatile and has a big fuel tank that it doesn't go through too quickly. If you have the patience to swap out add-ons you could complete the entire game with it. Plus, stability is my number 1 most important factor, the WWS is very hard to roll.
White Western Star is a wonderfull truck,300L fuel tank is rare between american trucks and there is only a Freightliner to buy later with that. I used a second one i found in Duncan Bay,British Columbia,installed the best upgrades and can adapt well to hard terrain in that map. It has addon compatibility close to Fleetstar. I have many trucks now and this one seems to be allways trustable in my list,more than flip masters like ANK and Paystar or weak trucks like Fleetstar,GMC with upgrades if i put logs it can barely move. CAT CT681 and International HX520,very solid too.
WWS is a great truck, if you are gentle on the throttle it will go through a lot of mud pits in RWD as long as you have either UOD's or chains fitted. One of my favourites.
"Both of this trucks have both fuel consumption, probably because they don't have AWD penalty, because they don't have AWD!" For some reason it made me laugh lol
13:40 I had a similar experience with gmc before getting awd. I was in black river with highway tires and used it to haul logs and the extra weight made it move so much better then hauling like planks or spare parts and stuff.
@@NProvince I remember thinking it would terrible because the only reason I really did it was it was hard mode and I was cash strapped but after I used I was so shocked it did really well.
I feel like the gmc MH9500 got shafted by how they made progression early. You get it as the first free truck after the chevy, but with no upgrades, no awd, crap highway tires, etc. then the fleetstar is right there literally in your front yard and surpasses it instantly. A lot of players likely never looked back since the fleetstar and white western star can easily handle most of the early maps and you'll come out of that with heavy, big boi trucks at your disposal.
The International Transtar I mostly use as the fuel truck and keep it around the main parts of the map. It is quite small and nimble enough to surprise me with the sideboard bed. I even used it as a log loader in some cases if my other trucks are elsewhere. Sometimes it's fun to have a challenge so I pick the trucks that are low on the list.
I used the 57X, it's pretty decent even for off-road, add the AWD and off-road tires with off-road gearbox. once in high-low gear it can surprisingly cut through mud as if its not there at times, and tried using the 57X on the flooded route from the quarry to Island Lake gateway with minor use of the winch. its fatal flaw is its front bumper, in the stock suspension can hit every dip in the road and can be a hassle to traverse certain wooden bridges in Island lake. Once you unlock the raised suspension, it's no longer a problem as a on-road-only truck with some off-road work too. I started a new save and now on Alaska and use it less due to the snow but can be effective still
Thanks for updating this tier list! Seasons from year 3 pass giving enough chance for intense highway trucks usage so I believe this might be helpful for someone to refresh their experience. Personally I've been using CLT9000 and MH9500 much since season 9. Especially in Scandinavia and N.Carolina with tons of goods to haul, CLT9000 shows it's best with it's fuel efficient unique engine in hard mode to do hauls on asphalt/dirt roads till delegate job to heavy/offroader on final mud/slope section . Another gem for me is Kodiak C70 - I found it very useful as flatbed truck in Yukon and Maine to traverse forest slopes for shortcuts (like gold mine tasks in Flooded Hills or Lowland around garage) or do scout delivery tasks with articulated platform.
I like the walking beam suspension in the CT680, CT681, and HX 520 as weight doesn't affect ground clearance whatsoever. Granted, those don't have great ground clearance to start with, but at least I'm not losing anything. Love the content! Great video, good reviews.
Divulge or digress? Make known? Or leave the topic at hand for a minute? 😂 love the videos! Your awesome! I bought snowrunner because of your videos and game play. Keep up the awesome work, just don't burn yourself out.
Dude I started playing a couple months ago and I think I have watched every single truck review and I absolutely love this game and trying new trucks the hx for me is my opion the best truck in this class cause it can get crane bed plus trailer and honestly like u said it never backs down keep goin man🔥
Ngl i love the Brigadier, as a good flatbed 2 slot truck it's hard to find a better one in it's class, even with just the off-road tires it still does great in mud, it's usually my go-to if I'm not wanting to just immediately crush a map with a heavyweight truck or something with mud tires like the Mack Defense or something like that
Great truck ratings as a seasoned player myself now sunce the days of covid doomsday lol, i have played and used most every truck in thw game at some point more or less. I have now gotten to where i give myself challenges more and use teucks with difficulty and make them work hard and grind in environments they can surpass with time. I do use mods some but only (no cheat) mods so im only gaining true to life tweaks not OP builds. Thanks man you are a staple for players of this game you've gotta stay like furniture 👍 keep doing what you do.
wws easily an A for me and I think it's the best truck in this category. It is very offroad capable unlike most of these in the list. It works well in every region, and never gets stuck maybe except Amur. It's very wide and stable, super fuel efficient, has a lot of add ons, has very good traction and enough pulling power. Can even do most of the super heavy trailer missions without a hassle, while the giant kenny struggles on hills by itself lol. This was a big surprise for me. I used hx520 and cat 681 a lot in the michigan but in the later regions they immediately felt inadequate. Not wws though, it's one of my joker trucks in every region. It's like the american version of the Azov 6, may be slow but will ge the job done, every time.
Nice tier list again Nathan and I'm hoping for all other truck tier lists in the future but buddy I really miss your "route runner" videos for season 5 to season 12 ;) greetings from germany
Glad you have been enjoying them. Ya I know some folks really liked the route runner. Sadly it’s just a video that would take possible 100hrs total just to analyze and develop routes deemed safe for all. However on maprunner there is a service called snow render which shows a lot of the things I talk about on this series.
@@NProvince ah ok I understand. I'm not that type of gamer with big internet research and reading of ways to play. I'd like the way you did and enjoyed the vids from ya. But I know what u mean and I'm not a content creator like u 😉 It's because SnowRunner is my favorite game of all time (and I'm a big video game collector and gamer since years) and I'm over 750 hours in this game and I'm watching 3 SnowRunner content creators for this game since release in 2020 and so I will look forward to many more of this vids (from u)...sorry for this nonsense big answer bro 😁
2 things of note, 1 for gameplay and the other real life. First, I found the WWS to be superior over the HX, but only by a half step. It achieves this by being just a little heavier, wider, and seemingly lower cog. The biggest reason though is that the frame has a ton of flex in it, allowing it to keep its weight low, keep all the wheels on the ground. This allows not only greater stability, but better driving since all the wheels are always pulling. I've been using the WWS since I first found it, and the HX a lot in my current region, but find that when it comes down to the margins, the HX just can't quite keep up with the WWS. Second point, the walking beams. In reality, they are actually a superb off road suspension and is still in common use even on brand new trucks for logging, mining, and oilfield industries. The advantage is that the lack of any springs or bags allows the axles to freely roll over the terrain without affecting the weight distribution of the other drives. It is in some ways, a more simplistic version of the Tatra backbone, but just turned sideways. Compared to a normal suspension, it allows far greater durability and off road capabilities, but at the expense of ride comfort. The P16 also uses a walking beam suspension, but it is a sprung beam, attached via leaf springs rather than a direct mount.
Hey just found your channel along with snowrunner..had my phase of learning how to cheat and fast track the game.Lerned about the tayga and azov started a real save got the tayga used it.found the white western star..haven’t stopped using it yet.only use the tayga when I needed a second truck to maybe use a crane quick…love the white western it’s toattaly capable of running thru most of Michigan in high range.if I were to help somone get into the game I’d recommend just pushing all 21 upgrades and getting that beast..set some scout fuels and 1 big tanker on di il & some sd..then just going to town..love the game lol
I agree with most of the said. However, I don't think the Brigadier should be put in B, while the GMC is in C. Its only advantage is more power (which comes with very high consumption), but the wheels are smaller. And I like the HX520 more than CT681, but to each their own.
You got some good points. I felt not only it had more power, but more stability even with a raised suspension. Not only that but it has unique addon combos that suits it better than the GMC. The GMc is still a strong truck. To each their own for sure I guess
Fleetstar is just a beast of a truck. One of the most enjoyable to play imo. Always does everything I ask of it. I feel like you can’t appreciate it how good it is until you come back after getting the god tier trucks.
I started the game again for the first time since the beginning of snowrunner and i thought i would struggle with the fleetstar but it’s quite the beast, i really dont think anything in the first 3 maps can defeat it when upgraded
I have mentioned something like this on my tire review. I think this is up to the driver. For these trucks I kinda explained what conditions to use either the Jat omd or the uod2. Simplicity: if you’re struggle with balance. Use the JATs
Thank you, have in garage Ct681, Brigadier, white western star ofc :) mister flip and shake, will try Ken with high range haul its with bed and crane atm. All the best.
tbh i always think the Western star 47x NF 1430 is a heavy duty truck for some reason and was slightly confused till i looked in the garage. Feel misplaced in heavy.
I wish they would reclass those vehicles. Would have loved to put them on here. I think the 1430 would be top of the class for me. Also we gotta get the 49x to the heavy duty class as wel
I must say, now that I'm some hours into the game the third time after losing savegames to updates twice, the Fleetstar is extremely capable compared to the russian trucks. I'm always surprised when I dig it out the storage and discover, that it quite happily manages passages I struggle with an ANK or Tayga, Tatra etc. Correction: I confused the Fleetstar and the White Western Star 4964
So I got to a spot where the fleet star. I personally think the fleet star is one of the best trucks in the whole game. And then they came out with that tire pack and made that truck way better.
I'd put White Western Star in A tier, it has a lot going for it. It's very stable, quite fast, fuel efficient, has lots of add-ons, awd + diff lock, decent power to weigh. Easily the best heavy duty truck and one of the best smaller trucks in game.
I think the reason why none of these were A tier for me was due to the off-road class being very similar in use case, but when comparing trucks in that class to these, I just think they are on a different level of capability. However I do not compare the heavy class to any other class like those two. Well perhaps a few trucks that probably should be in the heavy duty and offroad. A B+ to me is still a pretty good spot
@@NProvince That's true, for the most part heavy duty trucks are just worse offroad trucks - they are similar in size and play the same role. I'm just saying that White Western Star specifically stands out even in comparison with offroad trucks and in my experience it's more capable than, let's say, Paystar 5070 or Step Crocodile. Anyway, just sharing my opinion, it's not the most important thing in the world :)
Nathan great vid as always. I think of the western star as a boring truck. That is not bad I say that because it is not overly fast like some trucks, u can't put those big hulking mud tires on it. But it never leaves my garage because it has never failed me. Maybe that's why I call it boring because I know the job will get done. Sorry for rambling. Great truck great vid.
Personally, I think W990 is better than P512. It's very capable off-road despite only using RWD, just like P512 is. The more powerful engine and lower weight, combined with offroad gearbox manage to propel it on High gear through many obstacles, including many puddles of mud, where P512 could struggle. When it digs itself in, it falls short of P512. I have to agree with that. But a lot higher fuel capacity makes it more dependent in the long run. Additional axle... well, I don't use it much. However, as the W990 tires have low asphalt rating, lowering it may calm the truck down in the fast curves. I often choose W990 over russian trucks as I find it more stable, generally speaking. So unless I have to go through deep mud while hauling heavy load, it's my go-to workhorse. White WS is not my type of truck. It's stable, yes. But I feel like the engine holds it back a big time. With ~200k torque it would be a great choice. And the HX520 seems to me to be just that, White WS with better engine but slightly worse collision. But I wouldn't throw any of them into a deep water or mud so I don't feel like it matters much TBH.
Nice selection nath I really wish we could adjust the frame on the kodiak & make it a heavy scout or make it same as the actaeon the zikz and all the single axle heavy truck
I don’t care what anyone says and this could be controversial but, I feel if the Chevy C-70 is a S+ truck, I grew up with those trucks (the C-40/50/60/70) and I will defend them. I only wish it had a slightly higher fuel tank (like 5-6 extra gallons or whatever the liter version would be), besides that it’s a perfect truck, crane 2 piece bed, AND a 4 slot trailer is in base game with no mods is kinda nice. I do wish the upgrades weren’t when you get the western star, but when I played the game daily I loved the challenge of doing the missions with less fuel so I had to figure out what I needed and where to do it.
Hey if that’s what you believe then stand by it. I respect that. I really do like that truck. I rate vehicles pretty hard on these, but even lower tiers are pretty solid
I'll have to check again I don't think my HX520 has diff lock? I swear I don't remember it having that. It feels like the modern equivalent to the old fleetstar
Yeah I never use the highway trucks in SnowRunner but I use the Caterpillars a lot the CT680 and CT681 are pretty decent the HX520 is okay too have you done a tier list on all the heavy trucks yet if you haven’t maybe that’s another video idea you could do
Fun tier list, but the only thing I found a little weird is the CT680 vs 681. To have the 680 down an entire tier when it really isn't that much less capable than the 681 is strange to me. Obviously there is personal opinion and bias in there, we all have that, but if the HX is B tier, the 680 really should be up there too imo.
I understand your concern and perspective, but This is the most objective I can get. The only true objectivity is from the developers. The CT681 has more power, more weight, better ground clearance (crosschecked by referencing its collision model and better efficiency. I believe it is true better @JL-rj9fl
@@NProvince I enjoy your content and respect your opinion, and do agree that the 681 is better. It's just... can you really rank the 680 C tier when you have the HX 520 at B tier? I suggested a CT681 vs 680 comparison in another post, but maybe we need to look at this differently. What if you did a comparison directly - a head to head battle with the HX 520 instead? Use your test track, run them around some of your test routes. Show us, objectively, that the HX520 really is a tier above. Think of it as a free content idea: it's all in good fun! I and I hope you have taken my comments in that context. :) Full disclosure: I am pretty indifferent to either of those trucks, I'm just interested in seeing the trucks in action against each other.
I was heavily lean in towards these trucks. But then I got the Wolf Pack DLC and the 47x 1424 is my go to for most of the tasks. It has decent wheelbase and ground clearance with the active or raised suspension. Even with just the AWD and decent tires, it can pull through almost anything in AUTO. It makes as a great cargo truck on smaller trails and also serves as a great heavy hauler with a saddle on it. Still grinding away to hit the rank for a raised suspension and larger tires. Also the diff lock and roof rack. It also pulls overload heavy loads on paved roads with all terrain tires.
The HX520 was always a disappointment for some reason, I think it's suspension properties and low ground clearance, also feels like it struggles for grip. I'd rate the MH9500 and WWS higher, purely on off road capability. Both stand above the rest of the AWD trucks here, and the MH gives some offroad-class trucks a run for their money. And although the Brig has a unique engine, that doesn't justify the 4 dollar dlc for what is basically a re-skin of the MH9500.
Thanks for the video Nathan, enjoyed it a lot. One thing I didn't get quite clear is that they all went to D, C and B tiers, if the list was only about those two classes and not being compared with the other classes then... Shouldn't they be categorized in the entire range from D to S?. What I mean is compared to the worst highway trucks the Cat CT681, HX520 or even WS4964 are an S or at least A.
Good points I think I kinda explained that I didn’t feel that any of these trucks in my opinion are an A or S tier. I tend to rank trucks pretty hard and when you see what trucks I put into A on the off-road class you’ll understand a little more. The offroad class is similar to both of these but just on a whole other level. However when I rank the heavy trucks it’s going to be totally different
@@NProvince oh I get it now, you will keep filing that list with the rest of the classes, in that case it makes totally sense and I agree with you, none of these get to a better tier.
Doing a hardmode playthrough as I am sick of the big overpowered trucks and having so much cash/all unlocks. The 2070A and MH9500 Are carrying me through Michigan right now.
You share alot of my sentiments on this topic of overpowered trucks. Those ones you're using are very strong and Im sure you are adept at making them work better than most players. This is great to hear!
@@NProvince When I first started playing a few years back I just wanted to try the crazy stuff; now I want to try everything. I was amazed last night what I was able to get done with only RWD on the MH9500. That thing is an absolute beast. Towed a semi trailer with 2x Consumables, 2x Fuel and the maintenance trailer winched to the back all the way to the top left corner of smithville
I don't understand. Cat CT681 is best in class for you, so why you rate CT680 so low?? They are almost the same trucks, maybe even better - no dead axle and better snorkel. 192k power instead of 210k is more than enough, these are light vehicles.
Well because the CT681 weighs a little more; is more efficient and overall oddly I havent had trailer collisions as much for some odd reason as much. Still a strong C is still pretty strong on this list. Also I dont think it was as good as an HX520 to crack the B. TBH no dead axle on a truck has really bothered me other than the W990's so that wasnt really a factor. If the CT681 didnt have the engine, small weight advantage, and overall a better personal experience; it would be lower than the 680 i think. Also keep in mind I am only human afterall, i do have some bias
@@NProvince Thanks for answer, but I'm not convinced, need to give this 2 little more attention. For me White Star is number 1. It's my favorite truck in this game, I did everything with it. Cargo on bed, trailers, every type of logs, big crane, fuel, maintenance even on Amur. It's my first choice for medium logs, I even pull the trailer with Cat770 in Yukon. It just make job done, despite the weak engine.
I understand your concern, but Keep in mind this a person tier list and also i believe I’ve spent the last 4 years giving them attention tbh. I don’t know another YT’er who has spent the time and effort trying to understand trucks as much. Its what the channel is centered around
@@NProvince I think you should set your preference/bias aside and do a purely objective CT680 vs 681 video. Do a real, unbiased, deep dive on them, it would be really fun and interesting! I do agree that the 681 is better from my experience with both trucks, but they should duke it out. See what they're both really made of.
I think it is weird to rank Highway and Heavy Duty Trucks on their own, but considering Offroad Trucks in the list. Why not a complete list the? Or not considering Offroad Trucks at all?
Offroad trucks are in abother class so I will rank then by class as I've always done. Offroad trucks by a whole are just in a different league. The highway & heavy duty are more similar to eachothe than they would be with the offroad class imho
Wws for me is s tier. I am biassed as I went through imadra with her and good lord that thing with dif and and on is unstoppable. Saved my friend sooo many times in these Russian vehicles. What do I choose? Wws. every single time
The axles don’t change the ground pressure the tires exert on the ground by adding in the extra dead lift axle into the equation. It acts more like a jack with wheels in the game decreasing the traction from the wheels after the dead axle. It’s a coding and game engine issue. I’m very familiar with the game and the physics. I also have experience driving actual real life heavy loaded commercial trucks off road. Take your garbage somewhere else.
I actually think thats a good thing. You get to experience the progression through maps instead of using the powerful russian trucks right off the bat :)
I'm new to this game. I'm almost done eith Michigan, and I love White Star. Got two of them. What's a good truck to get later on with the same "feel" as WWS?
Im kinda sad you didnt mention the unique add on combos for the Brigadier and the HX The Brigadier is one of the few trucks that can have the log crane/long log carrier combo And the HX is one of maybe 2 or 3 trucks that can have a mini crane and vehicle ramp
I’ve mentioned some of those in prior tierlist videos actually. Keep in mind this is not a vehicle review. I’ve done those already. This is really just a quick rundown
Correction: I meant to say 9 US Tons When speaking about the Ford CLT9000. Also I meant to say the WWS 4964 weighs 10 US Tons… My apologies, 47 mins of straight talking had a few mistakes :)
I thought you just added the wheel weight of 8991 US tons
lol 😂 ya this is why I script videos
Bro you are the golden snow runner guru it's ok we understand no biggie, most of us snow runner fans know and learn in time especially with help from people like you who care and blossom the game love 👍💪👏
9000 tons says way more realistic 😂
Man had spent 4,200 hours playing this game, and then spends more time helping us by making tier lists. Respect to you, Nathan Province.
I appreciate those kind words. Thank you I hope this was enjoyable:)
Really? 4.2k?? OMG I had no idea he has that many!!
@@vladvulcan According to my Switch, I have played 550 hours of Snowrunner, but it’s actually more like 800 (Switch transfer stopped the counter and it won’t start counting again). Province has played Snowrunner for almost 5 times more than me.
Basically, NProv is like the Snowrunner master. The only person who can beat his Snowrunnerness is Esorokin himself.
@@RevolutionFallsLoneSausage has 5.5k
@@vladvulcan HE *WHAT*
The fact that the Ford weighs 18 million pounds is very impressive. 9000 tons is nothing to scoff at lol
Ya lol misspeak there. LOL
@@NProvince That did make me laugh, though, Nate.
After I found out I misspoke I laughed pretty good. Losing my touch Rob
WWS coming in at whopping 10000 tons beats that heavy weight Ford. 😉
LOL yet again another mis speak. Sorry about that 45 mins straight talking isnt my best delivery i guess@@0ptera
Fleetstar 2070A is a gamechanger when you only got that ass starter truck
It is a game changer
Fleetstar is so good. I used it through all of my first play through alongside the White Western Star
@@ringoose52the white western is such an odd truck, it is good but KEEPS being good through the whole game lmfao
Yay!!!! Tier list at last! Can’t wait for the off-road, heavy, and scout!
I have learned so much from your videos that I finally dared to start the game from the hardest level right from the beginning. I have already played over 800 hours on the normal level, but I am looking forward to playing on the hardest level. Thank you very much for all your videos, in which you described these trucks and everything else in detail and accurately, in a way that I would have never thought of, like "hey, this can be done like this!" Many thanks and greetings from Finland!
Thank you so much for that donation and those kind words! I’m glad I can inspire you test yourself! You got this. I believe you’ll have so much enjoyment on your new challenge
You have been killing it lately on the snowrunner vids. Keep it up man!
Thank you!
I have been using the updated W990 in Yellowrock. This Truck is literally built for drifting, it has tons of power, Rear-wheel-drive only and a diff-lock thats always on. It is a pretty scary with the physics of snowrunner but i love it
It does drift like crazy and yep.. its kinda scary
I kept using the White Western Star even after getting the OP Russian trucks. It's just so much more versatile and has a big fuel tank that it doesn't go through too quickly. If you have the patience to swap out add-ons you could complete the entire game with it. Plus, stability is my number 1 most important factor, the WWS is very hard to roll.
It is quite a vehicle in that regard
White Western Star is a wonderfull truck,300L fuel tank is rare between american trucks and there is only a Freightliner to buy later with that.
I used a second one i found in Duncan Bay,British Columbia,installed the best upgrades and can adapt well to hard terrain in that map.
It has addon compatibility close to Fleetstar.
I have many trucks now and this one seems to be allways trustable in my list,more than flip masters like ANK and Paystar or weak trucks like Fleetstar,GMC with upgrades if i put logs it can barely move.
CAT CT681 and International HX520,very solid too.
WWS is a great truck, if you are gentle on the throttle it will go through a lot of mud pits in RWD as long as you have either UOD's or chains fitted. One of my favourites.
"Both of this trucks have both fuel consumption, probably because they don't have AWD penalty, because they don't have AWD!"
For some reason it made me laugh lol
Had such a great time watching this. Looking forward to the other lists - thank you so much!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video Nathan! Makes me want to use some of these again. Keep up the great content!
Thank you JJ
Thank you for this tier list!! i was just watching your old truck tierliest and now you upload an updated one? Amazing
Glad you like it! More to come
13:40 I had a similar experience with gmc before getting awd. I was in black river with highway tires and used it to haul logs and the extra weight made it move so much better then hauling like planks or spare parts and stuff.
That’s awesome, ya know maybe I will rush to get the diff lock and just use highways on that one as well. That must’ve been a blast man
@@NProvince I remember thinking it would terrible because the only reason I really did it was it was hard mode and I was cash strapped but after I used I was so shocked it did really well.
Now I see why you asked me about precise truck weights
Yessir!
I feel like the gmc MH9500 got shafted by how they made progression early. You get it as the first free truck after the chevy, but with no upgrades, no awd, crap highway tires, etc. then the fleetstar is right there literally in your front yard and surpasses it instantly. A lot of players likely never looked back since the fleetstar and white western star can easily handle most of the early maps and you'll come out of that with heavy, big boi trucks at your disposal.
Ya the progression gets ruined in alot of ways even with so many pay to win DLCs as well
The International Transtar I mostly use as the fuel truck and keep it around the main parts of the map. It is quite small and nimble enough to surprise me with the sideboard bed. I even used it as a log loader in some cases if my other trucks are elsewhere. Sometimes it's fun to have a challenge so I pick the trucks that are low on the list.
I used the 57X, it's pretty decent even for off-road, add the AWD and off-road tires with off-road gearbox. once in high-low gear it can surprisingly cut through mud as if its not there at times, and tried using the 57X on the flooded route from the quarry to Island Lake gateway with minor use of the winch. its fatal flaw is its front bumper, in the stock suspension can hit every dip in the road and can be a hassle to traverse certain wooden bridges in Island lake. Once you unlock the raised suspension, it's no longer a problem as a on-road-only truck with some off-road work too. I started a new save and now on Alaska and use it less due to the snow but can be effective still
Thanks for updating this tier list! Seasons from year 3 pass giving enough chance for intense highway trucks usage so I believe this might be helpful for someone to refresh their experience. Personally I've been using CLT9000 and MH9500 much since season 9. Especially in Scandinavia and N.Carolina with tons of goods to haul, CLT9000 shows it's best with it's fuel efficient unique engine in hard mode to do hauls on asphalt/dirt roads till delegate job to heavy/offroader on final mud/slope section . Another gem for me is Kodiak C70 - I found it very useful as flatbed truck in Yukon and Maine to traverse forest slopes for shortcuts (like gold mine tasks in Flooded Hills or Lowland around garage) or do scout delivery tasks with articulated platform.
Love hearing stuff like this. Glad these trucks have been useful and successful for you
I like the walking beam suspension in the CT680, CT681, and HX 520 as weight doesn't affect ground clearance whatsoever. Granted, those don't have great ground clearance to start with, but at least I'm not losing anything. Love the content! Great video, good reviews.
Divulge or digress? Make known? Or leave the topic at hand for a minute? 😂 love the videos! Your awesome! I bought snowrunner because of your videos and game play. Keep up the awesome work, just don't burn yourself out.
W990 is my always go to truck. The only thing it can’t do is mid and deep mud and snow. Should be S tier.
its a good truck, but if it had abilities that the more powerful offroad trucks had, it would be higher.
Dude I started playing a couple months ago and I think I have watched every single truck review and I absolutely love this game and trying new trucks the hx for me is my opion the best truck in this class cause it can get crane bed plus trailer and honestly like u said it never backs down keep goin man🔥
Started playing this last summer, can’t stop, not sure why. Haven’t had this problem since 2011 when I took an arrow in the knee.
It’s a great game!
Got it at gamestop last year cuz I was bored. Can't stop playing it lol.
Ngl i love the Brigadier, as a good flatbed 2 slot truck it's hard to find a better one in it's class, even with just the off-road tires it still does great in mud, it's usually my go-to if I'm not wanting to just immediately crush a map with a heavyweight truck or something with mud tires like the Mack Defense or something like that
Nathan you should try again the Mack Defence M917, they solved the axle model issue, and now it is unstoppable.
I’ve made a video on this. It’s on my truck reviews playlist
I love these tierlist updates, thanks Nathan! 👍
Glad you enjoy them! :)
My heart breaks for the GMC 9500 man. Once you unlock AWD it is an off road beast, I'm using it now in BC! That upgrade just comes too dang late.
I agree, it’s a late upgrade. And you’re right, it does extremely well as soon as you get that AWD upgrade
I'd rank the WWS as low A.
It's the only one out of these categories I feel comfortable to use for medium logs.
Many Offroad trucks are less stable.
It is very very strong for sure
Great truck ratings as a seasoned player myself now sunce the days of covid doomsday lol, i have played and used most every truck in thw game at some point more or less. I have now gotten to where i give myself challenges more and use teucks with difficulty and make them work hard and grind in environments they can surpass with time. I do use mods some but only (no cheat) mods so im only gaining true to life tweaks not OP builds. Thanks man you are a staple for players of this game you've gotta stay like furniture 👍 keep doing what you do.
New tierlists? Dope!
the WWS 4964 has become my 'old reliable' truck, it may not be super powerful but it's succeeded where bigger more powerful trucks have failed
wws easily an A for me and I think it's the best truck in this category. It is very offroad capable unlike most of these in the list. It works well in every region, and never gets stuck maybe except Amur. It's very wide and stable, super fuel efficient, has a lot of add ons, has very good traction and enough pulling power. Can even do most of the super heavy trailer missions without a hassle, while the giant kenny struggles on hills by itself lol. This was a big surprise for me. I used hx520 and cat 681 a lot in the michigan but in the later regions they immediately felt inadequate. Not wws though, it's one of my joker trucks in every region. It's like the american version of the Azov 6, may be slow but will ge the job done, every time.
For the Fleetstar I keep both low and high suspension as lowering it helps with the tipping issue depending on the job.
That definitely helps mitigate the tipping
Nice tier list again Nathan and I'm hoping for all other truck tier lists in the future but buddy I really miss your "route runner" videos for season 5 to season 12 ;) greetings from germany
Glad you have been enjoying them. Ya I know some folks really liked the route runner. Sadly it’s just a video that would take possible 100hrs total just to analyze and develop routes deemed safe for all. However on maprunner there is a service called snow render which shows a lot of the things I talk about on this series.
@@NProvince ah ok I understand. I'm not that type of gamer with big internet research and reading of ways to play. I'd like the way you did and enjoyed the vids from ya. But I know what u mean and I'm not a content creator like u 😉 It's because SnowRunner is my favorite game of all time (and I'm a big video game collector and gamer since years) and I'm over 750 hours in this game and I'm watching 3 SnowRunner content creators for this game since release in 2020 and so I will look forward to many more of this vids (from u)...sorry for this nonsense big answer bro 😁
2 things of note, 1 for gameplay and the other real life.
First, I found the WWS to be superior over the HX, but only by a half step.
It achieves this by being just a little heavier, wider, and seemingly lower cog. The biggest reason though is that the frame has a ton of flex in it, allowing it to keep its weight low, keep all the wheels on the ground. This allows not only greater stability, but better driving since all the wheels are always pulling.
I've been using the WWS since I first found it, and the HX a lot in my current region, but find that when it comes down to the margins, the HX just can't quite keep up with the WWS.
Second point, the walking beams. In reality, they are actually a superb off road suspension and is still in common use even on brand new trucks for logging, mining, and oilfield industries. The advantage is that the lack of any springs or bags allows the axles to freely roll over the terrain without affecting the weight distribution of the other drives. It is in some ways, a more simplistic version of the Tatra backbone, but just turned sideways. Compared to a normal suspension, it allows far greater durability and off road capabilities, but at the expense of ride comfort.
The P16 also uses a walking beam suspension, but it is a sprung beam, attached via leaf springs rather than a direct mount.
The white western star is my favorite truck. It might not be the fastest but it just gets the job done every time. For me it's the most reliable.
Most def!!! 100%!
Man you could probably beat the game with that thing
Hey just found your channel along with snowrunner..had my phase of learning how to cheat and fast track the game.Lerned about the tayga and azov started a real save got the tayga used it.found the white western star..haven’t stopped using it yet.only use the tayga when I needed a second truck to maybe use a crane quick…love the white western it’s toattaly capable of running thru most of Michigan in high range.if I were to help somone get into the game I’d recommend just pushing all 21 upgrades and getting that beast..set some scout fuels and 1 big tanker on di il & some sd..then just going to town..love the game lol
Glad you found the channel. The WWS is really a solid truck for sure
Thanks, Nathan. Good stuff.
You’re most welcome! Glad you enjoyed it
I agree with most of the said. However, I don't think the Brigadier should be put in B, while the GMC is in C. Its only advantage is more power (which comes with very high consumption), but the wheels are smaller. And I like the HX520 more than CT681, but to each their own.
You got some good points. I felt not only it had more power, but more stability even with a raised suspension. Not only that but it has unique addon combos that suits it better than the GMC. The GMc is still a strong truck. To each their own for sure I guess
Fleetstar is just a beast of a truck. One of the most enjoyable to play imo. Always does everything I ask of it. I feel like you can’t appreciate it how good it is until you come back after getting the god tier trucks.
Couldn't agree more!
I started the game again for the first time since the beginning of snowrunner and i thought i would struggle with the fleetstar but it’s quite the beast, i really dont think anything in the first 3 maps can defeat it when upgraded
i use the kodiak as a scout rescue. well basicly as a flatbed towtruck for scout tow missions, really good at it.
Good use case
Can you also mention what is the best all round tire for each truck 😊
I have mentioned something like this on my tire review. I think this is up to the driver. For these trucks I kinda explained what conditions to use either the Jat omd or the uod2. Simplicity: if you’re struggle with balance. Use the JATs
I love my Fleetstar. It's the only truck from Michigan i still have in my inventory. I never use it anymore but i like it
Thank you, have in garage Ct681, Brigadier, white western star ofc :) mister flip and shake, will try Ken with high range haul its with bed and crane atm. All the best.
You’re welcome :)
Good video! Thanks 💪🏼
Glad you liked it!
tbh i always think the Western star 47x NF 1430 is a heavy duty truck for some reason and was slightly confused till i looked in the garage. Feel misplaced in heavy.
I wish they would reclass those vehicles. Would have loved to put them on here. I think the 1430 would be top of the class for me. Also we gotta get the 49x to the heavy duty class as wel
Dang the ford weighs 18 million pounds! That should be in the extreme heavy class lol. Just teasing you np. Love the vids bro!
LOL
I must say, now that I'm some hours into the game the third time after losing savegames to updates twice, the Fleetstar is extremely capable compared to the russian trucks. I'm always surprised when I dig it out the storage and discover, that it quite happily manages passages I struggle with an ANK or Tayga, Tatra etc.
Correction: I confused the Fleetstar and the White Western Star 4964
I think if you give these trucks a chance they definitely surprise you if you have some patience. Glad to hear this!
So I got to a spot where the fleet star. I personally think the fleet star is one of the best trucks in the whole game. And then they came out with that tire pack and made that truck way better.
Fleetstar is a very good truck :)
@NProvince I just think it's one of the best trucks in the whole game
I'd put White Western Star in A tier, it has a lot going for it. It's very stable, quite fast, fuel efficient, has lots of add-ons, awd + diff lock, decent power to weigh. Easily the best heavy duty truck and one of the best smaller trucks in game.
I think the reason why none of these were A tier for me was due to the off-road class being very similar in use case, but when comparing trucks in that class to these, I just think they are on a different level of capability. However I do not compare the heavy class to any other class like those two. Well perhaps a few trucks that probably should be in the heavy duty and offroad. A B+ to me is still a pretty good spot
@@NProvince That's true, for the most part heavy duty trucks are just worse offroad trucks - they are similar in size and play the same role. I'm just saying that White Western Star specifically stands out even in comparison with offroad trucks and in my experience it's more capable than, let's say, Paystar 5070 or Step Crocodile. Anyway, just sharing my opinion, it's not the most important thing in the world :)
Glad to hear it though. Definitely respect that point of view and appreciate you sharing :)
Props bro 🤜🏽
Nathan great vid as always. I think of the western star as a boring truck. That is not bad I say that because it is not overly fast like some trucks, u can't put those big hulking mud tires on it. But it never leaves my garage because it has never failed me. Maybe that's why I call it boring because I know the job will get done. Sorry for rambling. Great truck great vid.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Personally, I think W990 is better than P512. It's very capable off-road despite only using RWD, just like P512 is. The more powerful engine and lower weight, combined with offroad gearbox manage to propel it on High gear through many obstacles, including many puddles of mud, where P512 could struggle. When it digs itself in, it falls short of P512. I have to agree with that. But a lot higher fuel capacity makes it more dependent in the long run. Additional axle... well, I don't use it much. However, as the W990 tires have low asphalt rating, lowering it may calm the truck down in the fast curves.
I often choose W990 over russian trucks as I find it more stable, generally speaking. So unless I have to go through deep mud while hauling heavy load, it's my go-to workhorse.
White WS is not my type of truck. It's stable, yes. But I feel like the engine holds it back a big time. With ~200k torque it would be a great choice. And the HX520 seems to me to be just that, White WS with better engine but slightly worse collision. But I wouldn't throw any of them into a deep water or mud so I don't feel like it matters much TBH.
Nice selection nath I really wish we could adjust the frame on the kodiak & make it a heavy scout or make it same as the actaeon the zikz and all the single axle heavy truck
Thank you! That would be great!!
@@NProvince your welcome nath 🤗 God bless you 🙏🏾
I don’t care what anyone says and this could be controversial but, I feel if the Chevy C-70 is a S+ truck, I grew up with those trucks (the C-40/50/60/70) and I will defend them. I only wish it had a slightly higher fuel tank (like 5-6 extra gallons or whatever the liter version would be), besides that it’s a perfect truck, crane 2 piece bed, AND a 4 slot trailer is in base game with no mods is kinda nice. I do wish the upgrades weren’t when you get the western star, but when I played the game daily I loved the challenge of doing the missions with less fuel so I had to figure out what I needed and where to do it.
Hey if that’s what you believe then stand by it. I respect that. I really do like that truck. I rate vehicles pretty hard on these, but even lower tiers are pretty solid
I'll have to check again I don't think my HX520 has diff lock? I swear I don't remember it having that. It feels like the modern equivalent to the old fleetstar
The HX520 does have a diff lock. its Switchable
Gmc brigadier is my favorite truck jus got it the other day
Yeah I never use the highway trucks in SnowRunner but I use the Caterpillars a lot the CT680 and CT681 are pretty decent the HX520 is okay too have you done a tier list on all the heavy trucks yet if you haven’t maybe that’s another video idea you could do
I’ve done tierlists on every class. These tierlists are new and updated. The heavy class video will be coming soon
I really hope those two trucks in D tier get some love from the devs
That would be cool
Fun tier list, but the only thing I found a little weird is the CT680 vs 681. To have the 680 down an entire tier when it really isn't that much less capable than the 681 is strange to me. Obviously there is personal opinion and bias in there, we all have that, but if the HX is B tier, the 680 really should be up there too imo.
I understand your concern and perspective, but This is the most objective I can get. The only true objectivity is from the developers. The CT681 has more power, more weight, better ground clearance (crosschecked by referencing its collision model and better efficiency. I believe it is true better @JL-rj9fl
@@NProvince I enjoy your content and respect your opinion, and do agree that the 681 is better. It's just... can you really rank the 680 C tier when you have the HX 520 at B tier? I suggested a CT681 vs 680 comparison in another post, but maybe we need to look at this differently. What if you did a comparison directly - a head to head battle with the HX 520 instead?
Use your test track, run them around some of your test routes. Show us, objectively, that the HX520 really is a tier above. Think of it as a free content idea: it's all in good fun! I and I hope you have taken my comments in that context. :)
Full disclosure: I am pretty indifferent to either of those trucks, I'm just interested in seeing the trucks in action against each other.
@@NProvince”better ground clearance” 💀 dead axle has left the chat apparently. Idc if it has slightly more power. 680 > 681
I was heavily lean in towards these trucks. But then I got the Wolf Pack DLC and the 47x 1424 is my go to for most of the tasks. It has decent wheelbase and ground clearance with the active or raised suspension. Even with just the AWD and decent tires, it can pull through almost anything in AUTO. It makes as a great cargo truck on smaller trails and also serves as a great heavy hauler with a saddle on it. Still grinding away to hit the rank for a raised suspension and larger tires. Also the diff lock and roof rack. It also pulls overload heavy loads on paved roads with all terrain tires.
Imagine a truck being 10 thousand tonnes lmao I'm not sure where he sees these numbers, but I do like his videos
Ya that was a mis speak as mentioned in the Pined comment. Im glad you like these videos :)
The HX520 was always a disappointment for some reason, I think it's suspension properties and low ground clearance, also feels like it struggles for grip.
I'd rate the MH9500 and WWS higher, purely on off road capability. Both stand above the rest of the AWD trucks here, and the MH gives some offroad-class trucks a run for their money. And although the Brig has a unique engine, that doesn't justify the 4 dollar dlc for what is basically a re-skin of the MH9500.
Thanks for the video Nathan, enjoyed it a lot.
One thing I didn't get quite clear is that they all went to D, C and B tiers, if the list was only about those two classes and not being compared with the other classes then... Shouldn't they be categorized in the entire range from D to S?.
What I mean is compared to the worst highway trucks the Cat CT681, HX520 or even WS4964 are an S or at least A.
Good points I think I kinda explained that I didn’t feel that any of these trucks in my opinion are an A or S tier. I tend to rank trucks pretty hard and when you see what trucks I put into A on the off-road class you’ll understand a little more. The offroad class is similar to both of these but just on a whole other level. However when I rank the heavy trucks it’s going to be totally different
@@NProvince oh I get it now, you will keep filing that list with the rest of the classes, in that case it makes totally sense and I agree with you, none of these get to a better tier.
So the list will be a fresh list because I rank each class completely separately. It’s very similar to my previous tier lists.
Doing a hardmode playthrough as I am sick of the big overpowered trucks and having so much cash/all unlocks. The 2070A and MH9500 Are carrying me through Michigan right now.
You share alot of my sentiments on this topic of overpowered trucks. Those ones you're using are very strong and Im sure you are adept at making them work better than most players. This is great to hear!
@@NProvince When I first started playing a few years back I just wanted to try the crazy stuff; now I want to try everything.
I was amazed last night what I was able to get done with only RWD on the MH9500. That thing is an absolute beast. Towed a semi trailer with 2x Consumables, 2x Fuel and the maintenance trailer winched to the back all the way to the top left corner of smithville
I use military green myself. Is that what the Russian's use? You mentioned the US puts their trucks in a tan like colour.
Green and tan they use, sometimes the pattern like the ANK has as well
Thanks.@@NProvince
white western star is just the best 😎
Very very nice truck!
so after the whole video i just wanna aske.....ct681 or the wws
My ranking essentially shows. Ct681 for sure
I feel like the w990 would be A tier if it were just a little more stable
It would probably move forward I think
I don't understand. Cat CT681 is best in class for you, so why you rate CT680 so low?? They are almost the same trucks, maybe even better - no dead axle and better snorkel. 192k power instead of 210k is more than enough, these are light vehicles.
Well because the CT681 weighs a little more; is more efficient and overall oddly I havent had trailer collisions as much for some odd reason as much. Still a strong C is still pretty strong on this list. Also I dont think it was as good as an HX520 to crack the B. TBH no dead axle on a truck has really bothered me other than the W990's so that wasnt really a factor. If the CT681 didnt have the engine, small weight advantage, and overall a better personal experience; it would be lower than the 680 i think. Also keep in mind I am only human afterall, i do have some bias
@@NProvince Thanks for answer, but I'm not convinced, need to give this 2 little more attention.
For me White Star is number 1. It's my favorite truck in this game, I did everything with it. Cargo on bed, trailers, every type of logs, big crane, fuel, maintenance even on Amur. It's my first choice for medium logs, I even pull the trailer with Cat770 in Yukon.
It just make job done, despite the weak engine.
I understand your concern, but Keep in mind this a person tier list and also i believe I’ve spent the last 4 years giving them attention tbh. I don’t know another YT’er who has spent the time and effort trying to understand trucks as much. Its what the channel is centered around
I know that, I'm watching your tests and tech info and I respect your opinion. I appreciate your work :)
@@NProvince I think you should set your preference/bias aside and do a purely objective CT680 vs 681 video. Do a real, unbiased, deep dive on them, it would be really fun and interesting! I do agree that the 681 is better from my experience with both trucks, but they should duke it out. See what they're both really made of.
4200 hours?!?!
You madman, i hit 1k Just last month
4 Years of this game and making content will do that to ya. Im def gonna slow down tho drastically
I think it is weird to rank Highway and Heavy Duty Trucks on their own, but considering Offroad Trucks in the list. Why not a complete list the? Or not considering Offroad Trucks at all?
Offroad trucks are in abother class so I will rank then by class as I've always done. Offroad trucks by a whole are just in a different league. The highway & heavy duty are more similar to eachothe than they would be with the offroad class imho
Personally, what the MH9500 did in Amur made me realise it is an S tier truck imo
It is a good truck! I rank this tier pretty hard, but its a strong truck
Wws for me is s tier. I am biassed as I went through imadra with her and good lord that thing with dif and and on is unstoppable. Saved my friend sooo many times in these Russian vehicles. What do I choose? Wws. every single time
The WWS is one of those trucks that really is strong. Might not have the most torque, but it’s all around a good truck.
@nprovince not to mention, it's absolutely an insanely low center of gravity. Thing is un tipable as well
They need to get rid of the lift axles until they figure out how to make them useful
@@jaroslavjancik349 your bridge miss you yet troll?
The axles don’t change the ground pressure the tires exert on the ground by adding in the extra dead lift axle into the equation. It acts more like a jack with wheels in the game decreasing the traction from the wheels after the dead axle. It’s a coding and game engine issue. I’m very familiar with the game and the physics. I also have experience driving actual real life heavy loaded commercial trucks off road. Take your garbage somewhere else.
3:57 🤘🏻
I didnt know how to get russian trucks until after id done 90% of michigan and 50 ish percent of alaska lol derp.
I actually think thats a good thing. You get to experience the progression through maps instead of using the powerful russian trucks right off the bat :)
3:18 for anyone wanting to get on with he video and skip the rambling. Also just assume his top answers are a b c cuz he doesn't know how to rank
If you’d like to discuss your thoughts please come to the stream to elaborate
Absolutely 9500 is better than fleetstar. Nobody believes me😂
They are both strong but personally I like the saddle placement of the MH9500
MH is definitely slept on due to AWD in kovd. I always pick that up first tho. My fleet is that tan as well. Looks sharp.
7:30 you divulge just enough
Thank you :)
I'm new to this game. I'm almost done eith Michigan, and I love White Star. Got two of them. What's a good truck to get later on with the same "feel" as WWS?
Hey welcome! Thats awesome! Another truck similar to it would be An HX520 or A Step 310E
Im kinda sad you didnt mention the unique add on combos for the Brigadier and the HX
The Brigadier is one of the few trucks that can have the log crane/long log carrier combo
And the HX is one of maybe 2 or 3 trucks that can have a mini crane and vehicle ramp
I’ve mentioned some of those in prior tierlist videos actually. Keep in mind this is not a vehicle review. I’ve done those already. This is really just a quick rundown
Nathan you should try again the Mack Defence M917, they solved the axle model issue, and now it is unstoppable.
I’ve made a video on this actually