As a diehard fan of the WWS 4964 and Pacific P512PF, the C500 has instantly become my new main truck - it perfectly fits that “old school Americana heavy hauler” vibe and gameplay style and is extremely powerful without feeling overpowered, 11/10 truck - sure it could use a couple small buffs maybe (tire size, unique engine?) but even without those I am loving it
I've been playing with these new Kenny's all weekend on the Austria maps,. I LOVE THEM. They replaced two kind-of OP trucks I was using, and both have excelled well. If you take the T880's limitations into mind in your routes, and make sure you don't bury it by going low and slow and watching like Nathan said, you'll be impressed by how easy it'll get you places. The C500 is the exact truck I've always wanted in Snowrunner - it's perfect! You can do what feels like anything with it, just watch for your nose, really. I'm so glad this DLC was released, it's made me better at this game!
Drove both today. In a few words: impressed by the C500, disappointed by the T880. I think of the C500 as an improved Paystar 5070, without all the handicaps the devs put on the International. It has 1 inch larger OHD wheels, more power, a snorkel, a roof rack with a bigger tank... dream stuff!
About the stifness of suspension: yeah, I felt that. I had few times where i couldn't even react how fast i flipped the truck. Great informative video as always.
Thanks for another great review Nathan, was waiting for it. The T880 needs the W990 coding for the tires, they know it, but once again out of their usual dumbness didn't do it.
I feel like if they do add that coding something will have to get slightly nerfed, with that engine power and ground clearance it could very easily become massively OP with either better tires or AWD
Ich schreibe es auf deutsch, weil ich dann nur einen Bruchteil der Zeit brauche .. :D Ich habe das Dual Pack nur für den C500 gekauft und den T880 direkt verkauft. Ich verzichte nur ungern auf Allrad - und falls ich das tun möchte, steht der W990 bereit. Der C500 hat mich nicht enttäuscht. Ja, 50 Zoll Räder wären von Vorteil. Aber Reichweite und Stabilität überzeugen. Zur Verbrauchssenkung nutze ich zur Zeit den zweitstärksten Motor und bisher reicht der auch. Und der C500 klingt sehr gut. Von daher ist er ein gutes Arbeitspferd unterhalb der Offroad-Klasse.
Hi Nathan & Com, greetings from Bavaria/Germany. I also bought this Kenny Pack, just got convinced by their stats. NA Trucks with Rooftop Subliments are very welcome. Actually I can`t use them in a reliable way while perusing Kola (Tire Size is. King), but in Yukon they will do a great Job imho. Roll the Tape :)
I just started using these trucks. The 880 will be a fine highway/light off-road truck, and seems to power through well. The C500 was a beast. Using it for medium logs it was incredibly stable whereas the HX520 felt overly tippy. Even without the top engine, the C500 had plenty of power for logging.
I Really like the C500, but is struggling a bit with the C880. I feel like I'm driving on ice even on tarmac roads. Could be because I play with mouse and keyboard, so I can't feather the throttle. But I'm not giving up on it yet. Also, we have been asking for new trucks that isn't overpowered heavies, and these 2 fit that bill. I'm going to keep testing them in Amur. C500 made it NAI, where you pick up the rocket trailer. C880, hasn't made it to NAI yet. Gets stuck at the village in the east of Urska river. Anyway, thanks for another great video.
Right, after using the T880 for a while, I'm liking it a lot. I did put the biggest engine in after running the stock one for a while. I do like the extra power and once you get a hang of driving this truck its really rewarding!
My only issue, and this goes for a lot of new vehicles, is that we no longer have the option to put the base game bumpers on them, sure the custom ones are cool but only having a few options feels so limiting. Particularly when you don't like any of the options
I noticed on the T880, specifically with the long bed, that it gets a second hitch at the end of it, which facilitates full trailer compatibility and is a nice touch. On the other hand, loading it with cargo puts the weight distribution far back and is enough to lift weight off the front axle, which is alarming. I only had 3x consumables on it and noticed when packing the cargo that that was enough to see-saw the whole truck.
the C500 has become one of my favourite trucks. It handles long logs with a log crane like champ. The T880 is a mixed bag I like it but find myself leaning towards the W90, or P512 if i want an non AWD truck for more general work.
Cool review as always. I’ll pick up the pack up this weekend. Haven’t played the game in a while. But I am really looking forward to season 15 and driving in snow again. Also can’t wait to see your review of the MOL TB800. That looks like a beast. I recently started playing American Truck Simulator and ETS2. I enjoy the European trucks a little more and driving in Europe is different, for the better, especially with all the roundabouts. Both games have a ton of DLC which is usually are heavily discounted on Steam sales. I’m also getting into Farm Sim 25. It’s a good time for sims, just don’t have a lot of time to play them all. Later.
Impressive stability on the C500 😮 I'm sorry if you said so in the video, but did you test the T880 with the weaker engine ? Might be better. I mean it might not spin and dig into terrain so quick
The weaker engine is still one of the strongest engines in the game so I believe the wheel spin isn’t going to change much when you pack that much punch
it definatly needs something, i really don't get people saying it's best in class when all the other heavy duty trucks are more capable off road in rough conditions and will run circles around the c500 and without taking alot of enigine damage in the process.
So I've tested this against trucks in its class. Its definitely the best of them IMHO. Its ground clearance is its main issue due to not being blessed like the T880 in that area. Im super bullish on the WWS, CT681, & HX520, but this truck has done a terrific job
@@sertec6071 Best in a class that is behind most of the RU offroad trucks. I think people just focus on how these perform against other US trucks and leave out the RU trucks. Its my belief that the C500 should've been a US counterpart to the Taygas.
@@Rage_Spammer I was only considering the US heavy duty trucks in my comment. in my testing i feel the c500 needs a raised suspension as it hits its front end and get high centered in alot of areas. as the terrain starts to get rocky or deep ruts forget the c500. every single other US heavy duty truck will have an easier time in rougher terrain. i had the hx520 get through areas with no damage that completely stopped the c500 in its tracks.
@@NProvince dont get me wrong, i also think its the best one, but i find it stupid that it gets high center with 2 boulders. A little extra heigth would solve that but not make it OP. In my humble opinion that is :s
After using the c500 more over the last week. It’s one of my favorite trucks. Looks good, sounds good, but clearance isn’t ideal but so far I’ve been able to drive around that. Definitely feeling like the heavy duty class is my favorite in game now
These trucks really look nice. sad they are not the part of season pass. anyway, I do like heavy duties in the game, so might consider buying it for C500
C500 looks pretty awesome, a DLC I will buy. I wish the T880 had an AWD option. They tried to buff it with always on diff lock but always on diff lock on a fast and snappy truck w/o awd is a recipe for disaster on roads. Theres no power to the front wheels to pull the truck in a straight line and the rear axles are fighting eachother without the diffs off.
12:12 really shows another downside which is the C500 bad tandem suspension. It has no diagonal articulation. You can see the right wheel lift up off the ground with the left wheel. It is probably what led you flipping over when you hit that rock earlier in the vid. I'm gonna wait and see what Saber does with this pack. The C500's collision model reminds me of the Mack at release. Also the placement of the medium logging frame is absolutely criminal.
This was shown, but not broken down fully on Downside #2 as you see the suspension didnt absorb the rock, but sent the energy throughout the vehicle quickly resulting in a flip
Hey I replied to you on another video, but I am really happy with this truck after I tried it myself and I did around 6 contracts with it and even though its not the C500 I was hoping for I am glad we have it.
Hey sorry, I miss alot of comments due to volume. Im glad you are enjoying it even though its probably not the sheer size and spec you wanted to see :)
OK, I was on the fence but I'm looking for a new logging truck to replace my old and tired Pacific P16. The C500 will be my choice, definitely. I'll see later what to do with the T880. Thanks for the, as alwaysn complete and very precise review.
Except when you do have traction. Some people like the challenge of trucks that do well in specific terrain types. Makes mission planning more fun sometimes.
@@ZER0_Gmaybe, but i dont understand why people want it to be more challenging, imagine i used that logic at work "hell yea the day just got better this is guna be so much harder than usual now"
I'm really impressed by the C500 so far, its a really fun truck to drive. I need some more time with the T880. I don't really see the point of the top engine, all it does is dig down and get stuck. I'm currently using it with the stock engine and its still has tons of power.
Been using the W990 a bit more in North Carolina. It's a surprisingly capable truck. If you put the W990 tires on the T880, I think it'd be just as good. If either of those trucks came with AWD... you could use it for everything. The W990 would just be the best truck in the game.
The problem with the rear axles is one that will never be solved. The rear axles have no diagonal articulation. Fixing this takes time and the developers don't seem to have the time. You can see that with the KW963, which has the same problem. But the funny thing is that the Western Star 6900TS has the same suspension system and it works great.
I’m supper excited about the C500. But it’s a real bummer about the lack of frame flex. It not realistic at all, and it looks like an arcade truck in a a sim game. Almost every other truck has it. Really gets rid of the immersion factor. Other than that, I love it
They have basically any setup you can imagine with the C500. Honestly a missed opportunity on Saber's part for not picking a unique config and just giving us another tandem single steer axle truck.
Im actually loving the C500, even with it's tiny small tires. Although, its stability is way too OP! I'll be raising its COG about 20-25% on top of 2in sus lift to fit 49-50" tires as it has irl. I am planning on giving one of the t880's AWD, BUT I'm limiting the engines to just the stock one only. Stiffer suspension (also lower the raised a bit), 49-50" tires and AWD with 250k is gonna be far OP enough for anything in the game.
Lowkey i actually really like the t880 with lots of weight on the back wheels you can get good amount of grip with the ohd tires while being very fast pretty stable and fairly fuel economical of course it wont be the best for imandra but its amazing in the early game maps
I have to say, I really am emptying the c500. I’ll be completely honest, I enjoy it more than the Mack m917. Maybe I’m crazy, but I’m finding it pulls semi trailers just about as good as the Mack, has much better fuel economy, and with the ohd 1’s is just an amazing and fun truck to use. It’s not crazy op or anything but it’s more than capable, specially for its class. DLC worth the purchase just for the c500.
imo c500 needs to get some changes on its collusion model, bigger and better tires like w990 with a raised. 2900T engine would be nice but not necessary as i saw its performance with 2300.
The C500 is very capable, I have almost no complaints. The T880 sucks. I was on one of the British Columbia maps, decided to try the T880, and couldn't even make it out of the parking lot. Hopefully it gets a buff like the 990, because nobody is going to use this thing as it is
@@NProvinceT880 most definitely needs a tire buff indeed at minimum. The W990 even with OHD's out performs the T880 with OHD's overall...both having their top engine; 220k vs 285k... Only when heavy loaded they're somewhat equal with the 990 still doing a little better. Tire size and too soft suspension really hurts the t880.
Offering the option to activate AWD and equip the best tires should be standard on paid DLC vehicles. After all, if I'm paying for something extra, the least I expect is to get something better.
Hey NProvince could you help make me a list, I plan on completing all three beginning maps on Snowrunner while using a specific group of trucks, and every time I level up or everyother time i figured that id "unlock" a truck to be able to use. Wondering if you could help rank what should be unlocked first to last, I respect and trust your opinion so I figured why not ask you. List of truck being: Ford CLT9000, GMC MH9500 International Transtar 4070A, Western Star 57X (maybe), Chevrolet Kodiak C70, Fleet Star F2070A, White Western Star 4964, Pacific P12, Pacific P16, Pacific P512 PF, International Paystar 5070, Step 310E, and the Step 39331 "Pike". I figured I wouldn't limit myself on Scouts, also thought about adding the little "half" trucks like the Tuz 16 Actaeon but idk, think only thing im missing in terms of trucks like that is the Step 33-64 "Crocodile"
Id like to see the t880 get awd and give it an average engine. To me the w990 cannot do basic things due to the lack of awd and i dont want a truck that is useless to me. Also, i didnt see a breakdown of the scores at the end of the video!
As cool as it would've been to see the T880's flatbed actually be usable as a rollback towbed, the game's physics just don't seem to like it. There are a handful of mods that add alternate tow platforms capable of packing cargo and they're all prone to glitching and sending the vehicle flying, so it looks like Saber was just playing it safe which was probably the best option.
The new DLC trucks are getting into ranges of silly overpowered, I was trying that AAC scout recently after coming back after a long break and I cannot tip the thing over at all, it's just glued to the ground. I spent my first 80 hours with snowrunner without any DLC and remember doing some very hard (and rewarding) missions with the Voron D which is a great truck but kinda tippy.
I have a hard time understanding people celebrating nerfed trucks, lacking awd options and such, if you don't like awd just go in the garage and remove it, you don't like powerful engine, go in the garage and downgrade to the lowest tier one, the T880 is useless nobody is going to play it except a couple streamers that need to make content, give people the choice to play the game as they like, make options available
I dont believe I celebrated that in the video..I think what needs to be said is they are a structured license vehicle and Saber abides by those to a degree we do not know. Giving AWD to a vehicle with a non existent frame model and the largest engine in the game essentially makes every truck irrelevant. So where do you draw the line on truck balance? Saber does consider these things from which I've come to understand from talking with one employee. This is why I did say I think this will get a buff to its tires. I received these same comments when the W990 released and then after they upgraded its tires folks enjoyed it for what it was. Not every vehicle released needs to be the next "best in class" despite stand alone dlc .. Those are just my humble opinions.
Correction: The Torque Listed For ther C500 on Pro #1 SHOULD HAVE said 192,000 NOT 288,000. Sorry for that Typing Mistake Ya'll
As a diehard fan of the WWS 4964 and Pacific P512PF, the C500 has instantly become my new main truck - it perfectly fits that “old school Americana heavy hauler” vibe and gameplay style and is extremely powerful without feeling overpowered, 11/10 truck - sure it could use a couple small buffs maybe (tire size, unique engine?) but even without those I am loving it
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Thanks Nate for all the great content. It's been a huge help! Blessing Brother. You and Mrs. Nate have a very Merry Christmas!
I don’t know what to say sir. Thank you so much! I am truly thankful for that. God bless you and Merry Christmas as well! What a blessing!
I've been playing with these new Kenny's all weekend on the Austria maps,. I LOVE THEM.
They replaced two kind-of OP trucks I was using, and both have excelled well.
If you take the T880's limitations into mind in your routes, and make sure you don't bury it by going low and slow and watching like Nathan said, you'll be impressed by how easy it'll get you places.
The C500 is the exact truck I've always wanted in Snowrunner - it's perfect! You can do what feels like anything with it, just watch for your nose, really. I'm so glad this DLC was released, it's made me better at this game!
Drove both today. In a few words: impressed by the C500, disappointed by the T880.
I think of the C500 as an improved Paystar 5070, without all the handicaps the devs put on the International. It has 1 inch larger OHD wheels, more power, a snorkel, a roof rack with a bigger tank... dream stuff!
About the stifness of suspension: yeah, I felt that. I had few times where i couldn't even react how fast i flipped the truck. Great informative video as always.
Hey thank you! Hopefully this gets changed. Similar vehiucles that felt this was was the CAT CT's somewhat
Thanks for another great review Nathan, was waiting for it.
The T880 needs the W990 coding for the tires, they know it, but once again out of their usual dumbness didn't do it.
I feel like if they do add that coding something will have to get slightly nerfed, with that engine power and ground clearance it could very easily become massively OP with either better tires or AWD
@paladin_magnus lack of AWD and small tire size will be enough to not be op
Ich schreibe es auf deutsch, weil ich dann nur einen Bruchteil der Zeit brauche .. :D
Ich habe das Dual Pack nur für den C500 gekauft und den T880 direkt verkauft. Ich verzichte nur ungern auf Allrad - und falls ich das tun möchte, steht der W990 bereit.
Der C500 hat mich nicht enttäuscht. Ja, 50 Zoll Räder wären von Vorteil. Aber Reichweite und Stabilität überzeugen. Zur Verbrauchssenkung nutze ich zur Zeit den zweitstärksten Motor und bisher reicht der auch. Und der C500 klingt sehr gut. Von daher ist er ein gutes Arbeitspferd unterhalb der Offroad-Klasse.
great review nate.. so well put together
Thank you!
Hi Nathan & Com, greetings from Bavaria/Germany. I also bought this Kenny Pack, just got convinced by their stats. NA Trucks with Rooftop Subliments are very welcome. Actually I can`t use them in a reliable way while perusing Kola (Tire Size is. King), but in Yukon they will do a great Job imho. Roll the Tape :)
I just started using these trucks. The 880 will be a fine highway/light off-road truck, and seems to power through well. The C500 was a beast. Using it for medium logs it was incredibly stable whereas the HX520 felt overly tippy. Even without the top engine, the C500 had plenty of power for logging.
The 880 is quite nice with the medium log add on i recomend giving its a go if you havent already
I Really like the C500, but is struggling a bit with the C880. I feel like I'm driving on ice even on tarmac roads. Could be because I play with mouse and keyboard, so I can't feather the throttle. But I'm not giving up on it yet. Also, we have been asking for new trucks that isn't overpowered heavies, and these 2 fit that bill. I'm going to keep testing them in Amur. C500 made it NAI, where you pick up the rocket trailer. C880, hasn't made it to NAI yet. Gets stuck at the village in the east of Urska river. Anyway, thanks for another great video.
Glad you've been enjoying them. its also good to see you're not just giving up on them like most. Thats respectable
Ohd1 tiers and high range gearbox,i always try to avoid mud..and its doing well really
You were my #1 channel that I watched this year.
Right, after using the T880 for a while, I'm liking it a lot. I did put the biggest engine in after running the stock one for a while. I do like the extra power and once you get a hang of driving this truck its really rewarding!
My only issue, and this goes for a lot of new vehicles, is that we no longer have the option to put the base game bumpers on them, sure the custom ones are cool but only having a few options feels so limiting. Particularly when you don't like any of the options
I agree
I noticed on the T880, specifically with the long bed, that it gets a second hitch at the end of it, which facilitates full trailer compatibility and is a nice touch. On the other hand, loading it with cargo puts the weight distribution far back and is enough to lift weight off the front axle, which is alarming. I only had 3x consumables on it and noticed when packing the cargo that that was enough to see-saw the whole truck.
I did notice the see saw effect as well. Kinda funny
good review video as always!
what region is that at the 11:40 mark ?
Thanks.. that’s Big Salmon Peak, Yukon
the C500 has become one of my favourite trucks. It handles long logs with a log crane like champ.
The T880 is a mixed bag I like it but find myself leaning towards the W90, or P512 if i want an non AWD truck for more general work.
The T880 is rough to use compared to those two you mentioned. i do think a buffed tire option will be a thing similar to what they did for the W990
The c500 is a dream come true.
Cool review as always. I’ll pick up the pack up this weekend. Haven’t played the game in a while. But I am really looking forward to season 15 and driving in snow again. Also can’t wait to see your review of the MOL TB800. That looks like a beast.
I recently started playing American Truck Simulator and ETS2. I enjoy the European trucks a little more and driving in Europe is different, for the better, especially with all the roundabouts. Both games have a ton of DLC which is usually are heavily discounted on Steam sales.
I’m also getting into Farm Sim 25. It’s a good time for sims, just don’t have a lot of time to play them all. Later.
Impressive stability on the C500 😮
I'm sorry if you said so in the video, but did you test the T880 with the weaker engine ?
Might be better. I mean it might not spin and dig into terrain so quick
The weaker engine is still one of the strongest engines in the game so I believe the wheel spin isn’t going to change much when you pack that much punch
Honestly c500 needs 50' tires, it gets stuck in small things, a raise suspenssion wont fix it tbh
it definatly needs something, i really don't get people saying it's best in class when all the other heavy duty trucks are more capable off road in rough conditions and will run circles around the c500 and without taking alot of enigine damage in the process.
So I've tested this against trucks in its class. Its definitely the best of them IMHO. Its ground clearance is its main issue due to not being blessed like the T880 in that area. Im super bullish on the WWS, CT681, & HX520, but this truck has done a terrific job
@@sertec6071 Best in a class that is behind most of the RU offroad trucks. I think people just focus on how these perform against other US trucks and leave out the RU trucks. Its my belief that the C500 should've been a US counterpart to the Taygas.
@@Rage_Spammer I was only considering the US heavy duty trucks in my comment. in my testing i feel the c500 needs a raised suspension as it hits its front end and get high centered in alot of areas. as the terrain starts to get rocky or deep ruts forget the c500. every single other US heavy duty truck will have an easier time in rougher terrain. i had the hx520 get through areas with no damage that completely stopped the c500 in its tracks.
@@NProvince dont get me wrong, i also think its the best one, but i find it stupid that it gets high center with 2 boulders. A little extra heigth would solve that but not make it OP.
In my humble opinion that is :s
After using the c500 more over the last week. It’s one of my favorite trucks. Looks good, sounds good, but clearance isn’t ideal but so far I’ve been able to drive around that. Definitely feeling like the heavy duty class is my favorite in game now
Amazing Review! I really can’t wait to get this truck pack
Thanks for watching! I hope you enjoy the pack!
These trucks really look nice. sad they are not the part of season pass. anyway, I do like heavy duties in the game, so might consider buying it for C500
C500 looks pretty awesome, a DLC I will buy. I wish the T880 had an AWD option. They tried to buff it with always on diff lock but always on diff lock on a fast and snappy truck w/o awd is a recipe for disaster on roads. Theres no power to the front wheels to pull the truck in a straight line and the rear axles are fighting eachother without the diffs off.
12:12 really shows another downside which is the C500 bad tandem suspension. It has no diagonal articulation. You can see the right wheel lift up off the ground with the left wheel. It is probably what led you flipping over when you hit that rock earlier in the vid.
I'm gonna wait and see what Saber does with this pack. The C500's collision model reminds me of the Mack at release. Also the placement of the medium logging frame is absolutely criminal.
This was shown, but not broken down fully on Downside #2 as you see the suspension didnt absorb the rock, but sent the energy throughout the vehicle quickly resulting in a flip
It somehow feels like the c500´s stock suspension should be active suspension
I grew up In alberta and saw C500s everywhere. I drive a C500 twinsteer similar to the 6900 in the oilfields of Alberta
Hey I replied to you on another video, but I am really happy with this truck after I tried it myself and I did around 6 contracts with it and even though its not the C500 I was hoping for I am glad we have it.
Hey sorry, I miss alot of comments due to volume. Im glad you are enjoying it even though its probably not the sheer size and spec you wanted to see :)
9:37 you listed the T880's Wanderer torque here, instead of the 192k from the Gb-8V 2700T.
Good catch on that typo
OK, I was on the fence but I'm looking for a new logging truck to replace my old and tired Pacific P16. The C500 will be my choice, definitely. I'll see later what to do with the T880. Thanks for the, as alwaysn complete and very precise review.
Hey thank you! I really think you'll enjoy this dual pack. Im pretty bullish on the C500. I cant wait to apply it to my current hardmode playthrough
The c500 has been my go to truck
The wanderer engine is completely wasted on the t 880, all that power with no traction and no 4wd is just all bark with no bite.
Except when you do have traction. Some people like the challenge of trucks that do well in specific terrain types. Makes mission planning more fun sometimes.
Exactly my thoughts
Might be great with a heavy load on the rear axles
What do you mean barqs has no bite
@@ZER0_Gmaybe, but i dont understand why people want it to be more challenging, imagine i used that logic at work "hell yea the day just got better this is guna be so much harder than usual now"
I'm really impressed by the C500 so far, its a really fun truck to drive. I need some more time with the T880. I don't really see the point of the top engine, all it does is dig down and get stuck. I'm currently using it with the stock engine and its still has tons of power.
yea I'm not a fan of the new log trailers as well. Always Appreciate the truck reviews to know what we are purchasing. Keep up the good work👍
Been using the W990 a bit more in North Carolina. It's a surprisingly capable truck. If you put the W990 tires on the T880, I think it'd be just as good. If either of those trucks came with AWD... you could use it for everything. The W990 would just be the best truck in the game.
Just made a video on the results of those hypothetical upgrades. It might be surprising:)
The problem with the rear axles is one that will never be solved. The rear axles have no diagonal articulation. Fixing this takes time and the developers don't seem to have the time. You can see that with the KW963, which has the same problem. But the funny thing is that the Western Star 6900TS has the same suspension system and it works great.
i have doubt but i think i'm gonna buy it. great review as always
Hey thank you! I respect that. I think the C500 will do a pretty good job and honestly I would expect some buffs as mentioned in the review
I’m supper excited about the C500. But it’s a real bummer about the lack of frame flex. It not realistic at all, and it looks like an arcade truck in a a sim game. Almost every other truck has it. Really gets rid of the immersion factor. Other than that, I love it
I'm loving the T880 as it is, but it's certainly a challenge to get places. Definitely needs a tire buff.
Glad you are enjoying it. I do think a tire buff is incoming
14:38 it would become a Mack Defense :)
Or better
Kenworth has a Twin-Steer? Saber gotta give us that. We already got a Twin-Steer from Western Star & International. They can't deny us a Kenny. lol
I believe kenworth even has a tri steer option, but its a custom build i believe
@@NProvince Cool.
Kenworth has custom built a tri-steer/tri-drive c500 on special order before.
They have basically any setup you can imagine with the C500. Honestly a missed opportunity on Saber's part for not picking a unique config and just giving us another tandem single steer axle truck.
Curious how the T880 will work as a heavy hauler, I think weight will help it a lot.
I think weight will help for sure
Lets roll the tape !
The C500 it’s a beast and I love it feels good and not overpower the T880 idk about I have just gotten stuck in snowy mud
Im actually loving the C500, even with it's tiny small tires. Although, its stability is way too OP! I'll be raising its COG about 20-25% on top of 2in sus lift to fit 49-50" tires as it has irl. I am planning on giving one of the t880's AWD, BUT I'm limiting the engines to just the stock one only. Stiffer suspension (also lower the raised a bit), 49-50" tires and AWD with 250k is gonna be far OP enough for anything in the game.
Youre making it less stable!? Thats a first! I feel the stability is about right, considering the stiffness if the frame!
Lowkey i actually really like the t880 with lots of weight on the back wheels you can get good amount of grip with the ohd tires while being very fast pretty stable and fairly fuel economical of course it wont be the best for imandra but its amazing in the early game maps
I think that’s a pretty accurate statement. Glad you see some positives in it
You’re telling me we coulda had a c500 twinsteer!??! Damn! And before you say anything yes I do need another twinsteer
I have to say, I really am emptying the c500. I’ll be completely honest, I enjoy it more than the Mack m917. Maybe I’m crazy, but I’m finding it pulls semi trailers just about as good as the Mack, has much better fuel economy, and with the ohd 1’s is just an amazing and fun truck to use. It’s not crazy op or anything but it’s more than capable, specially for its class. DLC worth the purchase just for the c500.
Apparently my auto correct is being awesome. That was suppose to say I am really ENJOYING the c500.
Why do both of these trucks sound like theyre idling when youre clearly hitting the gas?
ill get it when they put it on switch, still waiting.
imo c500 needs to get some changes on its collusion model, bigger and better tires like w990 with a raised. 2900T engine would be nice but not necessary as i saw its performance with 2300.
Yea it’s collision mesh is pretty bad, kinda like Mack Defense bad when it first released
@NProvince yeah definitely.
The C500 is very capable, I have almost no complaints. The T880 sucks. I was on one of the British Columbia maps, decided to try the T880, and couldn't even make it out of the parking lot. Hopefully it gets a buff like the 990, because nobody is going to use this thing as it is
I think it will get buffed to be honest. I forsee the same trend with the W990 when it first released
@@NProvinceT880 most definitely needs a tire buff indeed at minimum. The W990 even with OHD's out performs the T880 with OHD's overall...both having their top engine; 220k vs 285k... Only when heavy loaded they're somewhat equal with the 990 still doing a little better. Tire size and too soft suspension really hurts the t880.
@@NProvinceI hope too, but why they don't do it from launch, whoever is in charge of the trucks "balance" is making a very lousy bad job.
Offering the option to activate AWD and equip the best tires should be standard on paid DLC vehicles. After all, if I'm paying for something extra, the least I expect is to get something better.
Hey NProvince could you help make me a list, I plan on completing all three beginning maps on Snowrunner while using a specific group of trucks, and every time I level up or everyother time i figured that id "unlock" a truck to be able to use. Wondering if you could help rank what should be unlocked first to last, I respect and trust your opinion so I figured why not ask you. List of truck being: Ford CLT9000, GMC MH9500 International Transtar 4070A, Western Star 57X (maybe), Chevrolet Kodiak C70, Fleet Star F2070A, White Western Star 4964, Pacific P12, Pacific P16, Pacific P512 PF, International Paystar 5070, Step 310E, and the Step 39331 "Pike". I figured I wouldn't limit myself on Scouts, also thought about adding the little "half" trucks like the Tuz 16 Actaeon but idk, think only thing im missing in terms of trucks like that is the Step 33-64 "Crocodile"
The C500 tire size being too small is a hill I will die on.
Yeah, especially since the real life one has huge ones
Honestly if it got 48 or 49 inch tires and zero other buffs, I would be 100% satisfied
@@ryeguy556 66" is the largest tire it uses, IRL (iirc)
@paladin_magnus the current tires are 47" so 48" or 49" wouldn't be much of a buff.
@ True, but I’m not sure if it could fit much larger with the axle and tank placement, maybe 50 inches max
Hauling coal through a jungle? That would be an awesome dlc
For real!
Id like to see the t880 get awd and give it an average engine. To me the w990 cannot do basic things due to the lack of awd and i dont want a truck that is useless to me.
Also, i didnt see a breakdown of the scores at the end of the video!
Also, stiff suspensions are the worst, compare the long nose kolob with these "newer better trucks"
heres hoping it gets awd
As cool as it would've been to see the T880's flatbed actually be usable as a rollback towbed, the game's physics just don't seem to like it. There are a handful of mods that add alternate tow platforms capable of packing cargo and they're all prone to glitching and sending the vehicle flying, so it looks like Saber was just playing it safe which was probably the best option.
Ah yes that’s a good point. It probably woulda been quite hard to implement
They could've added the C500 with the sheet metal butterfly hood, with the wide grill, not a tapered fiberglass hood. LAME, saved me some money though
The new DLC trucks are getting into ranges of silly overpowered, I was trying that AAC scout recently after coming back after a long break and I cannot tip the thing over at all, it's just glued to the ground. I spent my first 80 hours with snowrunner without any DLC and remember doing some very hard (and rewarding) missions with the Voron D which is a great truck but kinda tippy.
You’re not wrong tbh. They have been getting quite strong. I think it’s just due to us getting so many strong trucks in general in 2023 and on
Why does nintendo hate us, we STILL dont have the kenworth dual pack
I’m sorry to hear that
@NProvince no your fault, it's Ole never release the cool stuff on time nintendo
and they still aren't on switch
My guess is this coming week maybe?
Lol Switch. I didn’t think people still played that old thing.
@@NProvince most likely Tuesday
@@r0cket_penguin if people are gonna use the original PS4s and Xbox Ones for Snowrunner then I see no issue with Switch apart from delays
I really dont care for superpower but no awd, kinda pointless, imagine a drag car but only one tire spins lmfao
I have a hard time understanding people celebrating nerfed trucks, lacking awd options and such, if you don't like awd just go in the garage and remove it, you don't like powerful engine, go in the garage and downgrade to the lowest tier one, the T880 is useless nobody is going to play it except a couple streamers that need to make content, give people the choice to play the game as they like, make options available
I dont believe I celebrated that in the video..I think what needs to be said is they are a structured license vehicle and Saber abides by those to a degree we do not know. Giving AWD to a vehicle with a non existent frame model and the largest engine in the game essentially makes every truck irrelevant. So where do you draw the line on truck balance? Saber does consider these things from which I've come to understand from talking with one employee. This is why I did say I think this will get a buff to its tires. I received these same comments when the W990 released and then after they upgraded its tires folks enjoyed it for what it was. Not every vehicle released needs to be the next "best in class" despite stand alone dlc .. Those are just my humble opinions.
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Are these not out for the switch yet?
I believe switch is roughly a week late on DLC releases
@NProvince sounds good