Did OnlyFans Model Stab Boyfriend in Self-Defense? | Courtney Clenney Case Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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Courtney waited 13 minutes after she thrust knife into his chest to contact 911, but spoke to her mother twice during that period of time.
She is a little devil girrrl.
So he was choking her and she just happened to grab a knife before getting choked out.
Who believes that?! Booh shet!
Agree.
Hollywood style
@@veritasvosliberat8742 lol so she had the knife then on her
she was sleeping with a knife in her bra yeah 100%she just kill the n1gga bro
@@jamaljones7884 premeditated 💯
"May have struggled with regulating her intake of substances." As a recovering alcoholic, this is hilarious. I'll be using this one! 😂
Recovering heroin addict here. The struggle is real. Stay sober friend. Keep your head up
Recovering addict here! We do recover ❤️🩹
No doubt in my mind she killed him in cold blood. In the elevator, she was absolutely unhinged while he was the one defending himself.
agree
yes indeed& freinds of theirs said she was always attacking him.
Correct
It's weird that she only stabbed him once tho, right? She seems like the type who would leave a corpse with hundreds of stab wounds and probably wouldn't stop until the blade broke off or got stuck in a bone.
That's not what I saw. I saw a man twice her size very comfortable shoving her around and her in frantically state trying to get away and then he follows her.
Hey Doc, a bit of correction....she initially said that she threw him with the knife from a distance.....the coroner noted that the wound was from an downwards position, like someone lifting her hand and stab with strength...
Yep. She told the cops she threw the knife. That's some serious knife work if it stabbed him by its self. All her friends said she was the aggressor in all of their fights.
The Coroner report is "telling!" The fatal wound was not inflicted by a knife "thrown." A "downward" thrust...forceful. So heart broken 💔 she goes to Hawaii 😳 I quit listening to this mumbo jumbo after reading this comment! We now know Ms. entitled is a murderer.
The titles of model and fitness influencers are to be used loosely.
Roger THAT!
For real!!!. Nothing but a bunch of social media skanks.
Exactly!
There is no modeling agency paying them.
Sex worker is now synonymous with both it seems…
"Based on her history, she probably had a better chance of killing someone with her car than with a knife." Dr. Grande always with the one liners 😂
@Jen Agrippa that was in reference to her driving under the influence and being caught 2 times. Luckily she managed not to kill anyone then...
@@augustek5382 exactly...tbh I tune in to hear these witticisms and over here in UK we tend to like gallows humour ..It would be a pretty boring recital of facts without it..and in my opinion, dr Grande delivers with respect and just a little wink
It’s good, but it still doesn’t beat the one about Satan dressing up like Kenneth Copeland for Halloween.
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I just saw the video of the two of them in an elevator. She was violent and out of control. He was mostly calm. Her behaviors in that elevator as well as the behaviors she demonstrated after his death cause me to believe that she most likely continued attacking him once they got off the elevator, but this time she added a knife.
I agree, but I saw her hysterically trying to close the elevator before he got in. Was she trying to get away from him? He showed a lot of restraint with her, but could he have known there was a camera? We don’t know what happened before they entered the elevator, but Courtney was definitely the aggressor in the elevator. Those two should have never gotten together. Hopefully, we can find out the truth and justice can be served.
@@Amanda-el9dxI saw her left hand holding the elevator door open as she was hysterically or angrily banging on the buttons on the screen. I also noticed that she did not seem to have an emotional response when he entered. She continued to hysterically or angrily bang on the screen and then turned her attention to him when he said something to her.
@@itzyzaza2008 I’ll watch it again! Side note: Courtney is just so unlikable too. In her IG stories, she can barely string a sentence together. She’s very pretty, but I don’t see many redeeming qualities. None of her friends seem to be sticking up for her. That says a lot.
And we all know why she was let go after the incident by the police. A fkn disgrace. Put her under the jail.
Yeah self defense my ass. Yes he could have easily knocked her out, if she was so abused she would be terrified to provoke him into beating her. She seemed like she’s done this to him multiple times and don’t care.
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yeah he is he thinks we are stupid,i see his racist heart
"Two young people who had more money than common sense" I agree with your analysis Dr. Grande! Thank you for your coverage of the case. ♥
Not very respectful to the families
@@chinchillamdgamer The families that created these two? I don't believe respect should automatically be dolled out.
She had the money. Not him.
@@KayDejaVu, if he was managing her "career in Only Fans", that means he had money too. It doesn't matter if he was getting money off her if that was the agreement they had.
@@rigby0world1 I guess you knew the man personally and have never made a bad decision. If we could all only be as perfect as you.
“More money than common sense”… explains a lot of things these days.
She was caught online having a drink in a hotel bar with her dad after being released. What a strange thing to do. I’d be mourning the loss of my loved one at home. And staying out of the public eye. Sucks for the guys family.
I saw that clip, the lady that posted was shaming her. I know I would have maybe left the house to go to the food store or something quick, but not a damn drink
Good point! She killed him and she has permanently maimed others prior to him.
I know a chick that would do this…. Lol some are just crazy and self centered
After being released maybe she decided to stay at a hotel to avoid media. Or her dad was staying there. It's not strange at all if that's the case...people drink when stressed. She killed her boyfriend that's pretty traumatic. Staying alone with your thought after something like that I image could be extremely unpleasant so some people find comfort being out in public. While others cope and favor solitude.
So she got away with murder.... nice...
Black men need to stay away , the hell away from these kind of women.
Ya Doc, my first question was "How would someone gain the leverage needed to lethally stab someone else in the chest, while being choked?"
@@cht2162 Was he asleep?
She could of stabbed him any were else apart from the chest
@@raphkitchen True. But that still doesn't answer the obvious question.
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The video of the fight in the elevator shows their interaction one another... with her clearly being the aggressor.. but him still deciding to stay in the relationship... just a bad choice all the way around.. no one can say what really happened in the final moments.
She says she threw the knife
I still don't understand why people stay in toxic relationships.
It's like they feed off of one another.
Another reason to stay alone.
Always interesting.
Thank you.
Peace 💕🇺🇲
Some people are addicted to drama and chaos.
MF. - Regulation of substances is the important factor imo. People are social creatures and do not usually thrive without company. Hope you have at least one friend you trust! We are with you!😏
"She's not the Crocodile Dundee of Only Fans" 😆
@@bthomson
You are so nice.
Yes, I have one friend.
Thank you for being so kind💕🇺🇲
Peace
Low self-esteem, lack of support, history of toxic relationships in the family, there are quite a few reasons. People always connect in some way, sometimes this connection is based on negative experiences.
I do not understand this "OnlyFans" stuff at all. It seems some people get RICH being "OnlyFans models". It's odd to me, because I have read that there are photos of nude women on the Internet for FREE! I can't say for sure, but that's what I've read.
"Influencer", "Psychic Medium" and "Life Coach". The 3 "job titles" that make me want to hurl. Each worth what I remove from my cats' litter pan each day.
There are also millions upon millions of free videos of adults doing rudies for free ……,. Allegedly 😌😂
Job titles=cheap, not useful, not employable, but got ass,
Probably desperate men and women thinking if they support these models on only fans, they might get a date with one.
Love the "asking for a friend" insinuation!
@@bthomson Nobody insinuated anything
All im going to say that if the roles were reversed he would be arrested and in prison. I do agree that evidence doesn't favor either side completely. I think it's more likely that she stabbed him and he fought back but we will never know.
she should be guilty of manslaughter at least as any male would. take into account her exs statements. she has a violent temper.
I agree. However, it makes sense: the average man has the size and strength to seriously injure or kill the average woman with only his bare hands. The average woman needs a weapon if she is to have a chance against the average man, even if he is completely unarmed.
@@laneatkinson6441 does that mean me as a soft smaller guy, i can stab a big strong man if confronted with a fight the man is not backing down to
@@michael567jober 🤝
@@Deathbybigmac420 what
I worked 9 years for the state prison system and I have worked 6 months at the county jail. The most common charges have these things associated, from most common to least common.
1. Drug related
2. Alcohol related
3. Domestic violence.
Usually it's a combination of two of these or all of them. I would bet it's also true for this case. If we could fix these problems in society, jails and prisons would mostly disappear. Lives would not be lost, or wasted doing time in prison.
Good luck with that.
@Jen Agrippa 💯
I work at a transitional, in-patient housing facility with women who are coming off alcohol and drugs. The women we help have a lot of state assistance and great quality care. But even with all that, we have to deal with their poor upbringing, mental health issues, and addiction that sometimes takes them right back out! It literally DOES take a village to combat part of the problem!!!
@@springfauna1465 At times I feel some people are unfixable. When a person feels like they are not broke or don't want to be fixed, what can we do? I have had conversation with a man that has cycled through my jail more than. 20 times in the past 40 years. He is homeless, an alcoholic, and a drug addict. He has told me he has chose his lifestyle, and doesn't want it any other way. He says he shouldn't be in jail because he has never hurt anyone. He is just living the life style he chooses. And he is correct. He has never been charged with a violent crime. The only answer I have for him, is that you know drugs are illegal. This man will never accept help because he feels like he doesn't need it. I have come to the conclusion, that people in these groups are a permanent social class. As a society we have to learn to manage the situation. It's a balance between what is best for them, and what is best for society. It's so complex, that's why I feel we haven't found an answer. Also, it's imbalanced. They are a class that normally contributes nothing back into society, and takes a large amount of the assets, such as policing, jail space, county funded homeless shelters and drug rehab. The best society can hope for is to give them the minimum amount of services to survive. They will not fill a job that's open, or pay taxes. They will not attend jury duty, or volunteer. Maybe that's why fixing the entire problem is complex. Only one side holds all the chips in the game. If you have nothing, you have nothing to lose.
@@pup9892 Oh I totally agree!!!! I see women all the time who are in this program only so they can suck off the system, and they bounce from program to program throughout the city getting free medical, free counseling, free coaching, free housing, a car to works program, free continued education, it's unbelievable!! AND they're protected by HIPPA which ties our hands behind our backs in ways that give them way too much power!! But... there's always one or two who turn their lives around and graduate the program. They get their kids back, and they go on to live successful lives!!! And that's what gives me hope!! I'm 16 years free of alcohol, and if I can at least plant one seed as an example, then I've done my job!! All the best to you!! 🙂🙏
Even one domestic violence incident tells me that a relationship should end. I've never heard of a relationship even improving after that. I have heard of many ending up with one or both partners dead. End it!
I agree
Courtney Cleeny openly said she only dated rich black men.....however even in relationship she got this only fans as her source of income. Well...what do you expect of a relationship with a narcissist woman and a man who wanted white woman and openly hating black women.
Seriously… don’t feel sorry for him. You can like a certain group of people but to put down your own race to uplift another is not within your best interests.
@@Bri-nc8yp i feel you been following this case and Ive seen alot women spoke bad about him putting down his people but praising the woman who killed him.
@@georgered6867 He wanted a white woman because he thought they were easier to control and pimp out than black women. I guess that worked out for him...for a while.
@@georgered6867 Yes! I followed this case. Black women have drawn their support away from him and have made it known that we will not protest or back his family up due to his rants on Twitter about white women being better than black women. Even comparing white women’s areola’s to that of black women’s and saying white women’s look better. Now, as a black woman who prefers white men and dates almost exclusively white men (American & European) because that’s what I am most comfortable with and find attractive. Since Kindergarten my first real friends were white boys so that’s what I know & what I feel comfortable with. However, I could NEVER put down black men to uplift white men especially not in public spaces. I could never say white 🍆 look better than black 🍆 . Thats basically what this dude said. That’s insane. I can’t put down my own race even if I like something different. That’s insane to me. This case would have gotten traction had black women fought for him but we are sitting this one out.
This comment helps shed some important light on this case. When a participant in a DV incident is not able to defend themselves (being deceased!), anything we know about the situation adds to the understanding.
She probably chocked herself and bruised herself to make her case. Some
women have bruised their own bodies by punching themselves. Anyhow, she will get away with it. It’s usually that way. Her looks wins people’s sympathy and they will believe her story. There are many good looking, wonderful, and highly educated African ladies out there. He chose misery and death. He thought he had gold based on her appearance, but what he got was a tombstone. Soon, she will move onto the next man.
these guys don't seem to learn. Too bad it's too late for him.
Lol race doesn’t even matter since their are a handful of crazy black chicks in America. Either way, it’s all garbage.
Some of those women you call Africans, according to GOD in his word the bible, are Israelites, did you know that the blacks that were brought over here on cargo slave ships and scattered around the world are the real biblical Israelites or Jews according to the bible and historical documents and archeology
My ex-roomate would brutally smack herself in the face during arguments with her boyfriend and then when a neighbor would call the cops, she’d lie and said her boyfriend did it. It’s called hysteria. I would not be surprised if this sick bitch feigned the same thing.
The stab to the shoulder was in a downward motion so he was obvs at a lower level than her perhaps sitting down at the time he was stabbed. That is not self defence.
Premeditated calculated cold
Murder
I can't wait until you do an update on this case as it progresses! Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️
You revealed some very disturbing things about both people that I didn't know until now. This was a very toxic couple that seemed low on the therapy that they each required and needed to go their separate ways a long time ago.
prostitutes are not typically known for their healthy relationship patterns
Bitchez be crazy
Like Amber Heard case, my narcissist mother used to tell stories of my father's occasional violence in arguments away from home. I continually witnessed my mother's physical attacks on my father who was never violent towards her or anyone, while my mother physically attacked me, maids, and others who "angered" her. Female violence on men who would never strike women covered up by female lies seems must be addressed. Thanx.
My mother was always the violent aggressor towards my father and the rest of us kids in the family. Eventually, my father snapped. I lost both parents to a murder suicide.😪 Though this happened a long time ago my life has not been the same.
@@yolipurpleflower9895 So sorry for what happened to your and your family. Lots of love and good vibes your way.
@@yolipurpleflower9895 so sorry this happened to you. I hope you find joy and peace in spite of this experience
@@cht2162, thank you so much! 🌹
So true!!
She now faces murder 2nd deg charges... and being extradited from HI to FL ... kind of strange circumstances and inconsistencies around her allegations... Please Dr G An update is in order
Dr. Grande, can you do a video on the mass shooting in Buffalo, NY that happened at a grocery store over the weekend? The shooter was only 18 and had a hatred toward many groups of people, according to his manifesto and social media. He seems to be really disturbed. RIP to all of his victims. All innocents. A sad case. ☹ ❤
Everyone should check out Bodybuilding and Bullshit’s video on this incident. Courtney has a history in the fitness scene.
My common sense tells me to stay away from romantic relationships with any women who is involved with sex work or pornography. I guess some people’s common sense differ from mine. How can anything good come from dating a person like that? It just feels like an accident waiting to happen.
Your common sense is right on
Yess how is this not common sense
Man, suddenly the bachelor life doesn't seem nearly as harsh when there's women like her on the market.
Thank goodness. Sometimes Dr Grande's soothing voice is just what the the doctor ordered. Love the variety of topics covered as well.
Some of these cases really highlight how dysfunctional modern relationships can be.
Those two seemed very immature.
This case reminds me of the one where the girl pushed that older woman in the city and she died after hitting the ground, it is just so unlikely people would die like that with a single stab.
Thank you for the video.
Not really modern relationships. I volunteered at a hospice in college and there were so many people who opened up and told me about how their spouses (usually male spouses) beat and humiliated them and they didn't know it wasn't normal
@@keysaysassah It's a really modern relationship, websites like that didn't even exist in the past.
Even though the stories might not be true, I have never heard of a girl breaking a guy's jaw in an act of unexplained aggression.
I heard that he initiated the break up and she wasn't happy about that. She has a witnessed history of physical aggression, she's an alcoholic, which contributes to poor impulse control, and her story is damn fishy. She needs to do some time in prison. She will reap proper bad karma, one day.
Judging from her past history she’s going to end up murdering someone else
She dumped him and he didn’t want to leave lol. The apartment was in her name only.
Are we calling sex workers models now? Well then, I'm not skint or a deadbeat, I'm financially disabled.
I'm an Influencer for the hobo lifestyle choice
I'm a recycling enthusiast?
PHSE? Post-housing stressed entrepreneur
Staying tuned for the update based on new evidence and timelines
This is very sad, what a senseless loss of life....
I was one of your very early subscribers and out of all of your videos, "Crocodile Dundee of OnlyFans" is the funniest thing you've said. Literally still laughing.
Among many!
The video of her attacking him in the elevator is heart breaking.
Are we sure her name isn’t Courtny Heard?
Lol I hate you… 😂😂😂
New evidence just came out not looking good for her.
Welp, video evidence has come out of her being the violent aggressor in the relationship.
Good morning Dr Grande. Its sad that ,it was a toxic relationship. Fame , money and substance abuse, don't mix, it would be better if they got out of that relationship. I personally think she could be charged with manslaughter. Thank you Dr Grande. Great analysis and informative topic. Edit Also, my apologies. Thank you once again Dr Grande.
Hello lovely one! ❤ Great comment. I agree, she could be found guilty of manslaughter. Murder would be too hard to prove, probably. How are you doing today? And how is baby Noah? 🥰 I hope he let you sleep tonight! ❤❤❤🍀🍀🍀🌷🌷🌷⚘⚘⚘🌹🌹🌹😎
Yes, thank you and I completely agree! Love the message with this episode! Amazing work, Dr. Grande! ♡♡
Yes, avoidance of relationships with violent, substance using, agressive people, romantic relationships or ANY kind of relationship. Stay safe everyone. 🌳🌳🌿🍐🌿🌳🐝
I’ve almost stabbed my ex while being strangled. I pulled it from under my seat of my car and literally almost stabbed him. They block you in. You can’t run.
Edit: luckily his roommate ran outside and pulled him off JUST in time bc I had also laid my elbow into the car horn for help too. So lucky bc he was gonna for sure kill me , as he had just kidnapped me from my place-broke my door down and tackled me in my doorway. Crazy. So glad it’s long in the past but yes , I think this story adds up.
It adds up for me too. People that have experienced DV or a situation like this understands this as a possibility. If I had a knife my ex would be dead rn luckily for him and me, he just went to jail.
Cool story bro
@@DMONEY2000 the purpose wasn’t to share a story, but to offer an example of the state of mind people can slip into when in a state of panic. Personal stories are the most absorbable way to share information. Beyond that, the entire point is to offer an alternative possibility. Sure, when we’re looking at statistics, personal stories have no bearing on the current statistics. It doesn’t negate the findings or conclusion just bc you had a different experience. (Ie just bc you eat ice cream in winter time, or don’t eat it in summer, it doesn’t negate that the fact is that I’ve cream sales tend to increase during summer. It’s irrelevant)
But in a court of law, it’s different. You’re factoring in if there is most likely no other possible explanation for the evidence provided, in the way it’s provided . And in that case, individual stories absolutely do have bearing. If this case of state of California vs blah blah had a person where it looked similar but it was discovered that the defendant was not guilty in that case , and perhaps evidence later came out that even proved that, then that does change the trajectory of the current case. It is reasonable doubt.
Except that's not Clenneys story. She said she threw the knife at him from 10 feet away.
@@nineteenfortyeight6762 wellll that’s sketchy. 😳 people do get worried abt stuff like false imprisonment but that is bizarre. I feel like if you’re in a state of shock after something like I suggested you’d probably just keep replaying the incident and you’d be pretty honest abt what occurred. So the knife throwing comment before changing her story is really weird. Good point.
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Something like this could happen to Johnny Depp too. But then he wouldn't be able to tell the truth like Christian can't tell his side of the story. I'm just surprised that only one stab killed him while she was being choked? Hmmm, "Amber", I don't think so.
I thought about that too!! Would be interesting to see this case if it goes to trial. Also kind of reminds me of Jodi Arias except that she was totally brutal!!! What is with these young women??
@@springfauna1465 In Courtney's case, she gets constant validation on OnlyFans. Most chicks on there are not too stable mentally. Men swoon over her when she was a druggie, alcoholic, toxic person who you would not want to be around. They only see the physical and she actually is not that attractive, just pounds of foundation and surgery. She most likely grew up in a household where her mom could have hit her father or she used physical violence as a way to solve disputes.
@@shrapnel77 it's scary to me ,because women like Courtney are still out there on only fans on any other social media grooming lonely and desperate men to "Save" them
Thank you Dr for another insightful glimpse at more narcissistic women destroying other people's lives.
Through the years I have learned that it is not important to talk things out immediately when things get heated. Retreating is smart. U can also absolutely go to sleep with an issue. Imo whoever came up with that was either an idiot or a person who can’t leave well enough alone. Calm and reflection. And if someone shows u who they are, believe them.
Get outta there permanently pronto
This seems to me to describe Johnny Depp's efforts (or so he says and some others back him).
To be fair I can’t sleep if I’m upset because my anxiety will have me laying there all night with no sleep at all.
I can hardly sleep due to anxiety and severe insomnia though I see your point only one of us would be sleeping
Just don’t go to sleep near them or you’ll be stabbed.
I'm so thankful for this content.Please keep up the good work doctor it's much appreciated😊
Yes! Dr. Grande seems always to be even handed! His analysis of like situations is clear and reasonable.
What is difference between analyzing and diagnosing? I think the situation is analyzed but the person( or people) are diagnosed. Therefore I do not think Dr. Grande does diagnose any individual . 🤔
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I seriously doubt it was self defense. There is a TMZ video of her beating the crap out of him in an elevator and he did not hit her back.
For sure big social-media popularity can adversely influence a relationship and perhaps it messed with this relationship as it did the one involving the van-life couple. And definitely, Dr. Grande, the exit ramp is the best option when there is more tension or jealousy or whatever than anything else. And whatever happened to simply dating and courting? All this living together before people are ready to live together is too often a really bad scene with a harsh outcome.
We all say we would leave. It's not as easy when you are emotionally wrapped up in that relationship.
@@troy3456789 I agree as altho' I am now 62 I recall the feelings and confusion of being/not being in a relationship in my mid-twenties, a time when one is still young yet nearly a decade out of high school with all those expectations of success of life in the fast lane and the '80s were just that way. Yet, I am thankful that it was just dating and that while my heart was broken, I did walk away graciously, yielding to her desire to be with another guy even as she said I could keep calling her. And I certainly thank the Lord for the strength and will to do that, not that I called it the exit ramp or anything fancy like Dr. Grande.
@@robbchastain3036 I read a terrific book called "Divorce Busters" by Michele Weiner-Davis when my marriage was in shambles. It's goal is to reunite couples. Even if the other has moved out; the relationship can be saved [if the relationship isn't toxic, it may be savable]. She tells the reader [the one who is interested in rescuing the relationship] to avoid calling the other at all costs. She tells the reader to make a list of the top ten things you would be doing if you were not all consumed and worried about the relationship; then do them.
To be honest; it was very powerful and she moved back in after I stopped calling her. We did have two kids in school afterall, so I was the single dad there for awhile. I realized at some point that she was the toxic one and I decided I was better off without her, and she didn't want anything to do with our kids.
I think the reason I wanted her back was simply because she rejected me, and that was a powerful move against my ego. She went on to marry 4 more times [and cheated on all of them]. I remarried once to my wife now for over 18 years and we are faithful to one another.
You think people can afford to live entirely on their own? Cohabiting is the future of relationships now along with a slew of other consequences should it not work out. I blame the economy.
@@xXHireneXx I was going to say the same thing, the economy has really messed things up. Also, people didn’t used to “court” the way nostalgic people seem to believe. There was never a time that was better in regards to relationships!
Before, you were married super young and often without any say by the woman. Then women were trapped, no matter how toxic the relationship was.
Divorce rates are high because now that women can work and support themselves and leave, they simply don’t tolerate the bs they were forced to, before.
Marriages were not happier and more fulfilling before. At least not for the trapped spouses.
Once you live together you may as well get married, though. It is difficult to separate once you take that step, so might as well date until you’re ready to get married and have kids.
Anyway, the older methods did not work and no way are people going back to that mess. People need to evolve and seek more therapy. That’s the real solution
I bet Amber is grateful she used a vodka bottle rather than a 🔪 lessons in the reverse Metoo mvmnt
Courtney was the aggressor in this relationship and I hope that she goes to prison for a very long time. If you find yourself in a toxic relationship please don't hesitate to leave it when it is safe to do so. Trust me you will never change that other person so don't even try to, if somebody truly loves you they would never dream of hurting you in such a physical way. I myself left a da relationship whilst pregnant and I never regretted my decision not once, please don't stay in a toxic environment believing you will change them, trust me it's never going to happen. No matter whether you are a male or female never stay in a relationship were you are getting physically and emotionally hurt, you can be alone and you will survive without them, if I can do it so can you. We only have this one life to live please make sure it counts and be happy you owe it to yourself.
Just seems like people are wired to seek fame, fortune and outer-beauty. When these things aren't fulfilling, we are lost.
Courtney did not call the police, it was the condo staff. She did not want the police called.
I like this vid. Good insight and great analysis.
ok Dr Grande we need an update on this case . There are phone audio recordings of the insessant abuse of Christain
When I first started watching his videos I found the sarcasm to be a bit smug and annoying but I can't get enough of it now lmao "what did she do that was actually special, or indicative of having talent? Driving while intoxicated, partying, engaging in disfunctional relationships, stabbing? most people know how to do these things without social media based instruction." xD
Discrimination and hypocrisy are bad. Pulling out the race card (or the abuse card or the...) when it isn't warranted is a disservice to those experiencing genuine issues.
Hi Dr. Grande! Hope you're doing great! ❤️
She's basically pissing on his grave with the self-defense Theory. Not only did you kill him, now you're tarnishing his name claiming that he was trying to kill you
@@sabias3932 yeah true, that was somehow even worse tho cause he killed a little kid
He was very clearly her pimp, not her bf. He got what he deserved.
@4:16 I believe Shawn Rhoden you referred to was Mr. Olympia of 2018, a bodybuilder
Great commentary, thanks! Please consider doing a video on George Hugley and Yardley Love, Jalani Day or Jesse Matthew. Matthew is a serial killer who was a taxi driver in Charlottesville.
You are so right!
Run don’t walk !
Exit fast!
Been there, done that
Sad to admit it!
I think it was self defense💅🏾
I don't know if it was a self defense regarding THAT night in particular but I do think he was her pimp and he had been violent to her in the past for her to feel like she had to defend herself.
The Black delegation reviewed the matter and the deceased’s callous comments about Black women. We have decided he is not worth the fight for justice, so have at it Dr. Grande. We don’t care!!
@@Rogueviewer1 oh wtf..
you guys over there really cant get that mote out of your eye.
He was just your average, angry, aggressive dusty who was mad that his snowbunny wasn't submissive and got toe tagged when he tried to toe tag her. 💅🏽
And I agree. 💕
Dr Grande is awesome!
Sadly this seems as though this was a volatile relationship from both of them, I thought he died in the bedroom why she had a knife in that area of the house who knows. They should have put more effort in themselves, & their anger management issues. I hope LE are able to get to the answers so that the young man can have justice
It was her apartment paid by her father, she dumped him, but Christian refused to leave
The worst of all of this she is now saying she was forced into a sex trafficking ring how disgusting. Well now she now has to prove it. I feel sorry for his Family 💔
She was on the phone with her mother for 10 min before calling the police. 10 crucial minutes.
That right there, proves her innocence among other things.
It was also her apartment, not his. He only had some of his stuff there. He'd been staying there but not necessarily welcome to live there fully. She had also taken a restraining order out against him prior to the incident. Whether it was still valid or not, I don't know but I do know those things should never expire, or at least no where near as quickly as they do. Some women don't know they can expire and find out the hard way.
I believe she murdered him and has anger management and control issues!!! Yes I think it is because he was African that he is being seen as the perpetrator. She didn't have to kill him; why not end the relationship, it was obvious they weren't compatible? When the police are called in a lot of domestic violence situations in Los Angeles, the first time they are given a warning that if they are called back again someone goes to jail; as an apartment manager I've seen it happen and that certainly curbed the violence and they ended the relationship and moved out soon after that. Fortunately it has only happened 3 times in thirteen years. It sounds like they could have benefitted from couple's counseling but you have to be ready to do the work and be painfully honest to bring about change, unfortunately a lot of people are more interested in being right rather than working things out!
Toxic is the new trend
The bruises on her were old bruises. Not only did she wait for a period of time to call 911, but when they were asking her questions, she wouldn't answer. For example: house, apartment, etc. Go back and listen to the recorded messages, check out her friends' and ex-boyfriends comments, read the notes kept & watch the tapes. Everyone can't be wrong. What if the shoe was on the other foot. What would your analysis be then? Inquiring minds want to know.
I'm just curious, what happened to their religious beliefs or lack there of...and she doesnt need a driver license until she gets help ..Thanks again Dr. Grande , you're always working.
If indeed Toby was a bully who as claimed by Courtney abused her all the time, then how on earth did she summon the courage to beat a bully in the elevator when they were alone. If toby was that bad, a bully would’ve punched her when she continued hitting him. One might argue that he might’ve been aware of the camera in the elevator, but if you know an aggressor, you’d know that they cannot stop themselves when that mood kicks in. According to the district attorney, she walked to the kitchen area and got the knife, if Toby was choking her, how did she get the knife? If Toby was choking her, then stop, he must’ve seen her go to the kitchen area to get the knife. Toby would’ve run out the apartment cuz you’re no match against someone with a knife. According to the district attorney, Toby got home with a sandwich he bought for both of them, then an argument, then she called her mom for 6 minutes, then immediately called her mom again for little over 7 minutes. It was believed that Toby was already stabbed but she first called her mom. On the phone, it was heard that Toby was saying he was dying and all she was saying was I’m sorry baby. If she had called 911 immediately after stabbing him, there might’ve been a chance but she waited. By the way, she said she threw the knife 10ft away from Toby which went 3in into Toby’s chest, what kinda lie is that?
Then again, Toby died of a single stab wound to the chest which suggest that he was either sleeping or caught off guard. Toby was a good sized man and the lady Courtney have a little stature. If Courtney was actually being choked, how did she stab Toby just once because Toby would’ve tried blocking her attacks with his hand which should lead to multiple cuts in his hand before the stabbing. There’s no way for her to stab the aggressive Toby on the chest when he was aggressive. If she had the knife on her, then it’d be premeditated.
Drinking & DV seems to go hand & hand. Police reports on him for any DV. If she had a knife then she broke free, not in heat of the moment, doesn’t seem like self defense!! She had history of DV in other relationships. She just lucked out & stabbed him in his heart . I would like to know about his past partners. Thanks for the share Dr. Grande
I thought the exact same thing about the knife. When someone is being choked how likely would a knife be in reach? It wouldn't So if she had time to run into the kitchen to retrieve a knife she should have been able to do what you said and call for help. I'm not going to give an opinion as to whether I think she is guilty or not because honestly I don't know, but I do know that the thought of stabbing someone would be unimaginable to me.
She didn't call for help for 30 min while this dude was dying...
I love it when sassy Dr Grande makes an appearance! 🤗
Please do an update Dr Grande
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could be happening in an OnlyFans™ Boyfriend Shish Kabob like this.
lol. 🤣 Shish Kabob! That is so funny, and oddly enough, I think that's the name of my new next door neighbor! 😁
@@LDiamondz If your neighbor is named 'Shsish Kabob' I think the next bbq is going to be interesting.
You know what? I think you're on to something! Cuz every time he buys a new grill, one of the other neighbors steal it! 🤣
Great content Dr Grande. I'm waiting to see your take on the Ali abdulaban case...that I think will be very interesting
It is not believable because the man is a victim of domestic violence. The cost is so sad and I hope at least the victims family get some resolve to move on from their loss.
Is "deep conversations" a euphemism?
"the cocodile dundee of only fans" 😂😂😂
They most likely both were physical...but in that moment if she was being choked...she might have felt desperate and did whatever she could. Either way, THIS WOULD BE A VERY DIFFICULT CASE TO PROSECUTE , that's why she hasn't been charged
Citation needed.
i dont believe the lying witch at all , too many times females get the benefit of doubt,. sickening
Another murder apologist.
She finally has been arrested, in a rehab recovering from her PSTD issues in being victimized. Seriously. The elevator evidence speaks otherwise than her victimization. Clearly shows HER attacking him & only his attempts to keep her away in her physically abusive actions. The view of my favorite Dr here as to the use of a knife comes into play as he had gone to get food, returning with so the knife in play would make sense in choice only due to eating. I am so glad that FINALLY she may be held responsible for the gentleman’s murder. 🙏🏻 That his family will finally obtain some closure in his death? Will never bring back the loved one, but clearing the miss identification of him being the aggressor may help locate some peace. I doubt she will be convicted in the second degree murder charge? But plea it out to possibly a manslaughter charge. As the arrest was made? Her “online fame” excelled also I heard. I wonder if social media content is considered as un allowable as printed gain? As convicted offenders are not allowed to benefit financially from books etc? I wonder if social media financial income is not allowed to benefit the person as well? Just a thought, excuse my lengthy writing here? Just been following this since the beginning in April & was to the point I thought she had gotten away with the murder. Had heard she was planning a venue of profit from the “abused” venue w self empowerment content, thank goodness that she was finally charged before her advantageous plan to benefit off his murder became actionable. Some closing mentionable thoughts quickly here? As she called her mother BEFORE she called 911 & her mother told her to include the “abuse “ leading to her defense? I wonder what her experience was in growing up? Not at all in excuse, only curious as what kind of parent advises their child to play up a defense instead of hanging up immediately and calling help for the victim? Just curious. 🙏🏻💯 for justice, finally. 💔
Poor guy he got himself a crazy one. I am afraid that she'll get away with murder.
Dr.Grande please address the deceaseds random aggressive posts aimed at BW?
Unprovoked, spontaneous, vitriolic posts about how much he disliked Black Women?
“The Crocodile Dundee of…….” 😆😆😆the humor is priceless!
First! Almost haha. I love this Dude. Learning a ton. Thanks Doc.
Thank you for covering this domestic violence that ended up in a devastating end.
It’s hard to understand yet the rise of domestic issues is on the rise especially during the lockdown.
There has to be another way to help people before they snap and hurt others.
May he rest in peace and his family will find justice and healing too. 🙏🏼
The fact that she had marks on her neck supports her claim of being attacked. I highly doubt she will ever be prosecuted.
I hope she is.
How about if that happens after she attacked him?? Did you ever think about that
Some women actually ask their partners to choke them during sex…
@@Aboma2012 exactly. Even after the heart has been lethally punctured or ruptured, a person can be fully aggressive for about 20+ seconds.
I agree it was self defense. Case closed.
I hate not been impressed in general with the choices of young people for a decade or so
I think it was likely self-defense. There had been DV calls before and he wasn't supposed to be in the building. She probably kept a knife ready in case he came back or escalated the violence.
so you only stab the person one time while they try to kill you? i doubt it. if it wouldve been selfdefense it wouldve been a whole mess of irregular stabs.
idk what happened obviously but this sounds to me like she lashed out with the knife in an argument not wanting to kill, but hurt him. Both were unlucky - when the one stab turned out to be a lethal one.
just imagine the man had some marks around his neck and would claim to have stabbed his gf in self defence. Nobody would believe him and he would be in jail faster then you can say the word "equality".
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis How many people have you stabbed?
This does seem to me to be one of the ways in which our (🇺🇸) justice system is unequal. Men ( especially Black men) do not have an equal chance with a jury. Often they go into trial already judged.
bs she was a violent female, i love the believing her because it was against a black male.
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis I disagree completely. If it was self defense I would think she’d stab him once with the intention to get him to stop choking her but not kill him. Whereas if she was intending to kill him I’d think she would stab him multiple times to make sure the job was done. Ultimately I think she’ll be found innocent as there just doesn’t seem to be enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she murdered him.
Great video👌
Can you do a update now that the elevator video is out and she has been arrested
She had stabbed him before. And also stabbed another boyfriend
One man normalised modern adult content and that was Al Goldstein, look what Al Goldstein had to say about Christianity on his wiki page
i can’t stress this enough. if u in an abusive toxic relationship why stay? that goes for both men and women. i been in one and before it got any worse i got the hell out and now i’m at peace
Well, many women (& men) do try to get out, and that results in them being murdered. So, it's much easier said than done. This is why DV programs/shelters create individualized exit plans for the victims. I was only able to get out of my abusive relationship (finally) when a neighbor called the police.
@@CEO_of_Autism_ problem lies in being dependent. i’ve never depended on another female for finances nor happiness. i’m a pretty easy going guy but also very stand up. when i was with my ex i was working partime in retail and towards the end i was considering moving back with mom but luckily with my constant job hunting i was able to land a decent job that paid enough to support myself and pay all my bills. i live in a big city but i’m also frugal so i make it work. ex even tried to consider staying when i got this new job but i said hell no and marched to the apartment management office and told them i’ll be renewing alone and the rest is history. if i can do it they can too. never depends on others
On its own, partying and using substances doesn’t make a murderer. Obviously if you add a history of being violent, then yes, it’s much easier to assume the worst of someone for such a crime, but just because someone parties and uses party drugs doesn’t necessarily mean they could kill someone. Just sayin 🤷🏻♀️
true, but i think it's another thing to drive while intoxicated.
You do tackle the tough subjects.