Excellent. I remember our baritone horns in the 1970s being the size of euphoniums and they seemed to have gotten shorter over time. I had a favorite one with a detachable bell and the valves mounted on the front at an angle with a thumb ring. Also had four valves. I miss the heck out of that horn. I stopped playing when I graduated high school and almost thirty years later had the opportunity to play the horn again. I knew all the fingerings for the notes but my embouchure was shot and I struggled to produce a single note. As the saying goes, if you don't use it, you lose it.
What you had was actually a small-size euphonium (compared to the British euphoniums). It still had a conical bore, which is one of the determining factors. See this article I wrote for more information: www.dwerden.com/eu-articles-bareuph.cfm
A very famous trumpet piece. Its great to hear it played on a British or European Baritone horn. Which is way different than an Americn baritone horn which normally has a forward facing bell and a larger bore size. And yes the valves maybe slanted and might have a 4th valve to reach a low B above peddle Bb. Though it will be very sharp. British and European Baritones and Euphoniums use a compensating system and even have a trigger to allow for even finer tuning by adjusting the tuning slide while playing. for better intonation than American horns. I have a Besson Euphonium with the 4 th valve and the compensating system. But I don't have the tuning trigger, which means I had to learn alternating fingering and how to lip down sharp notes. But that was over 40 years ago. Playing a trombone in tune is much easier, but it has many more issues to conquer.
I did this as part of a 3-horn demonstration (baritone, euphonium, double-bell euphonium, all playing the same piece). Here is my blog post about it: www.dwerden.com/forum/entry.php/794-Hearing-the-Difference-Baritone-Horn-Euphonium-Double-Bell-Euphonium
Thank you- great playing! Is there any chance you could do a comparison review of 4valved vs 3 valved Baritone? More the case of does the extra pipe/wider bore affect the free blowing and the timbre? Does this change it’s function/ability to blend in the British brass band- play with the horns, support the trombs and be with Euphs?
I wish I could oblige, but I don't have access to a 4-valve baritone. More importantly, I'm not really a baritone player - I just use it now and then as a novelty or when a piece requires it. Your idea is good, but it would be better for a true baritone player to do that comparison/review.
David Werden - Thanks for replying so swiftly. I have since talked to a couple of musical directors over here in Australia as well. They feel that unless you will be using the 4th valve a lot (ie. 2nd Bari) the classic brighter 3v sound is what they would personally prefer in the ensemble. Plus I found the 3v was easier to play in the upper register and I felt more secure on it than the 4v. I am leaning towards the 3v.
@@brasschick4214 i know im late to this, but i played a 3 valve sovereign for 1 year then swapped to one of the early 4 valves which was also a sovereign and then last weekwas suggested by a proffesional player to switch back to a 3 valve so i did so and its the best decision ive made. Its so much nicer and easier to play. I prefer it so much more to the 4 valve
@@dwerden Yes, I'm a big guy too 200 pounds , six foot tall. You know what? I stopped to listen to your video bacause I look , well resemble you. Or, you resemble me. I'm 60 years old . I play the alto horn E flat. in a community band in Italy. Bandistico Complesso San Leone. Saracena, CS. Italy. Very mountainous. I don't know how much longer I can march through the streets anymore.
If you have a YBH-301, then I think that are about the same, except mine has a larger bell flare. If you have a YEP-301, then it is a euphonium and is much more conical than my baritone horn (a Besson Sovereign 955).
Super! Virtuoso!
Lovely playing! I played this piece on the trumpet for my orchestra audition.
Excellent. I remember our baritone horns in the 1970s being the size of euphoniums and they seemed to have gotten shorter over time. I had a favorite one with a detachable bell and the valves mounted on the front at an angle with a thumb ring. Also had four valves. I miss the heck out of that horn. I stopped playing when I graduated high school and almost thirty years later had the opportunity to play the horn again. I knew all the fingerings for the notes but my embouchure was shot and I struggled to produce a single note. As the saying goes, if you don't use it, you lose it.
What you had was actually a small-size euphonium (compared to the British euphoniums). It still had a conical bore, which is one of the determining factors. See this article I wrote for more information:
www.dwerden.com/eu-articles-bareuph.cfm
A very famous trumpet piece. Its great to hear it played on a British or European Baritone horn. Which is way different than an Americn baritone horn which normally has a forward facing bell and a larger bore size. And yes the valves maybe slanted and might have a 4th valve to reach a low B above peddle Bb. Though it will be very sharp. British and European Baritones and Euphoniums use a compensating system and even have a trigger to allow for even finer tuning by adjusting the tuning slide while playing. for better intonation than American horns. I have a Besson Euphonium with the 4 th valve and the compensating system. But I don't have the tuning trigger, which means I had to learn alternating fingering and how to lip down sharp notes. But that was over 40 years ago. Playing a trombone in tune is much easier, but it has many more issues to conquer.
Amazing!!
excellente!
Beatifull
Great video!
A baritone 😯
I did this as part of a 3-horn demonstration (baritone, euphonium, double-bell euphonium, all playing the same piece). Here is my blog post about it: www.dwerden.com/forum/entry.php/794-Hearing-the-Difference-Baritone-Horn-Euphonium-Double-Bell-Euphonium
Thank you. I have a YBH301.
Thank you- great playing!
Is there any chance you could do a comparison review of 4valved vs 3 valved Baritone? More the case of does the extra pipe/wider bore affect the free blowing and the timbre? Does this change it’s function/ability to blend in the British brass band- play with the horns, support the trombs and be with Euphs?
I wish I could oblige, but I don't have access to a 4-valve baritone. More importantly, I'm not really a baritone player - I just use it now and then as a novelty or when a piece requires it. Your idea is good, but it would be better for a true baritone player to do that comparison/review.
David Werden - Thanks for replying so swiftly. I have since talked to a couple of musical directors over here in Australia as well. They feel that unless you will be using the 4th valve a lot (ie. 2nd Bari) the classic brighter 3v sound is what they would personally prefer in the ensemble.
Plus I found the 3v was easier to play in the upper register and I felt more secure on it than the 4v. I am leaning towards the 3v.
@@brasschick4214 i know im late to this, but i played a 3 valve sovereign for 1 year then swapped to one of the early 4 valves which was also a sovereign and then last weekwas suggested by a proffesional player to switch back to a 3 valve so i did so and its the best decision ive made. Its so much nicer and easier to play. I prefer it so much more to the 4 valve
With baritone a 3valve compensating should suffice, and just enjoy the horn you like, you can upgrade as you progress
Blows it a bit like a eupho, doesn't get that special baritone sound. Baritone is a real specialists instrument that takes time to master.
E flat tenor horn?
No, a Bb baritone horn (British style).
The instrument looks like a peck horn, or alto horn!
Maybe that's due to my own bulk! It is a Bb instrument.
@@dwerden Yes, I'm a big guy too 200 pounds , six foot tall. You know what? I stopped to listen to your video bacause I look , well resemble you. Or, you resemble me. I'm 60 years old . I play the alto horn E flat. in a community band in Italy. Bandistico Complesso San Leone. Saracena, CS. Italy. Very mountainous. I don't know how much longer I can march through the streets anymore.
The smallest baritone/euphonium I’ve seen yet
Is a British-bore baritone more conical than, say, my Yamaha 301?
If you have a YBH-301, then I think that are about the same, except mine has a larger bell flare. If you have a YEP-301, then it is a euphonium and is much more conical than my baritone horn (a Besson Sovereign 955).