I’m not gonna lie I cheated a lot on tests and homework and never felt a shred of guilt. If i cheated in a tournament taking money away from people is where I’d feel like a huge POS.
Cheating in school is perpetration for the big leagues, Allen. Don’t forget the teachings of Naruto, Gainz. It not cheating if you don’t get caught, poke em in the eyes while the referee is can see naught… MMA.
@@jorjepetersondale9182 I'm bringing the question up not to suggest that I would do something like that, but rather to defend EE. By all means the controversy is well deserved, but some of the death threats and such that he gets is just too much. I'm simply asking the question to reflect on what EE was really thinking about. Temptation happens all the time, wether it be retaliation or overall doing something you know you aren't supposed to do. Your response is reasonable and in fact is the correct response in my eyes, but I wasn't exactly suggesting that I would do the same, but I was suggesting that if it came down to it, most people would at least hesitate for a split second before making an ultimate decision. Edit: I guess I'm trying to humanize him without defending him but it definitely didn't work and just makes me look bad in the process.
@@jorjepetersondale9182 Rereading my comment I honestly feel terrible. I thought that I was only humanizing him by saying he's not the only one, but by doing so I've torn down myself. What I meant vs what I said honestly didn't translate well, and this will be something to remember in the future. Just as a note though, I didn't attempt to compare each scenario, and the scenario in question actually wasn't what you said it was. The question was not "Would you save someone's life by fracturing another," it was "Would you kill someone for taking someone you loved", which are entirely different and is definitely warping my character in an unreasonably extreme manner. Looking back, I sound like a completely different person, even if the response was only an hour ago. I still believe that his "temptation" was a reasonable explanation, just not good in a moral sense. This is something to remember in the future, and I probably should have never said anything in the first place. If there is nothing else to add, I will end it here. *Edit: Despite everything suggested about me, I am completely rational and I believe that my morals aren't as scuffed as they sound. I guess so many people take situations way too far, and hearing about EE getting an unsettling amount of hate, death threats, and more at that medium, I felt like I had to defend him, which made me exclude the very reason why he's getting all of it in the first place.*
@@TheSpacePlaceYT I appreciate the apology and I feel like people need to do this more often these days. I read everything and I understand what you were trying to say. You just went about it terribly and I feel like this was the smartest thing to do other than deleting your comments. I understand why you wouldn't though.
She went from Miz randomly looking for a streamer (like lily275?) to deservedly winning 50k and hanging out with one of the biggest streamers on English twitch. I hope her career blows up cuz she's great
I HATE people that HATE other people. The comment I respond to did not spread HATE. That is good. BUT! I get a lot of HATE comments on my amazing videos and I HATE it. Please don't start spreading HATE. Do I have to HATE you too, dear mc
@@AxxLAfriku you don’t deserve hate comments bro. Matter of fact You don’t deserve any comments or views. Your Videos better stay the fuck off of my wall.
Mizkif was literally about to call him out, too. You can hear him start saying, "That was the most legendary throw-" before EE cuts him off to talk to his mom. Such a weird and embarrassing move, imo.
That was what disgusted me the most. He cheated and then thanked his parents in an emotional speech and then he only admitted to cheating after getting caught. The way his "apology" was accepted as if it was nothing was surprising. He truly deserved being called out for the scumbag move he did, it wasn't just an honest mistake.
I love the tough love ludwig is giving to EE, telling him point blank this is how hundreds of thousands of people are going to look at him and that type of scrutiny can and will stick with you for a long time. especially since cheating isn't the only problem with this episode. even if in the end he admitted to his wrong(s) he still ruined the show in the moment for the host, other contestants who were/might've been playing fairly and the people watching. On top of that people seeing Miz's reaction to EE's celebration can obviously see he doesn't think this was won fairly. Not to mention this adds more black lash on Miz and his show because people are still cheating either for money or so they don't look "stupid". even though 90% of these questions are stuff we were either taught over a decade ago or not at all.
I think everyone just needs to sit down and have a massive pizza party payed by RUclips. I would like it barbecue, and I don’t mind pineapple. I would also take fries to go on the side. And after our big party we can all be chill again.
The worst part is him trying to thug on your heart strings with the ''nobody believed in me'' card and him supposedly calling his mom. It's so embarassing now.
@@android059 came here to say this. of course it's a good idea just harder to do. also miz loves this shit. cheating is part of the show now, and chat is pretty good at finding the cheaters anyway.
From my experience, it is very rare for cheaters to cheat only once. They may only get caught once, but they usually have a long list of other times they've cheated. Sure most of those times we wave off as harmless, but where is the line drawn when cheaters clearly benefit from cheating?
There is no way this guy knew Jean-Jacques Rousseau wrote the Social Contract. He most probably doesn't even have a single clue about who was Rousseau! (An important philosopher around the time of the French revolution.) Or maybe he took one week to memorize the entirety of Wikipedia? Yeah maybe... This guy can barely do a single-digit addition, come on!!! lol
I'm pretty sure the "owning up" part of the apology did not happen. He was forced to admit that it happened as the last resort to save face. This man legitimately betrayed a friend to steal a large sum of money while being fully aware of how wrong it was. Ludwig's doing his best at damage control, but I have a feeling if their positions were swapped, this "friend" of Ludwig's might just do what he did to Mizkif - backstabbing for short term success, gets caught and regret yet again.
When there's a prize on the line for a competition, especially a CASH prize, the argument of "Just own up to the mistakes of cheating and you're redeemed" goes out the window in my eyes. He effectively stole money, which is a felony in most of the world. He got caught and ridiculed while guilt-tripping others by pulling the race card like he's done before, and then when he realized he wasn't gonna get away from his crime, he fessed up for ONE of the problems, and not the entire competition. Sure, we'll never know if he cheated the entire competition, but there's a nice little saying about liars: "Once you've caught someone in one lie, it becomes a whole lot easier to catch them in other, bigger lies." Most times people that lie start off small, realize they got away with it, and keep going bigger and bigger till they get caught, where they then admit to lying. That's the path of a pathological liar, and I'd not be surprised if EE was one. With all that said, I reiterate: There is no forgiveness for someone committing a felony/crime, only justice in a court of law. They will rightfully be known as a cheater hopefully for the rest of their life, and will feel the guilt of almost allowing himself to steal 50k from the rightful winner of the competition.
Yeah. Watching interrogations a lot, there seems to be a pattern. They confess to smoking weed a few times to show they are being honest but the weed confession is just a tactic to hopefully get across as being honest, so they later can deny the more serious charges. No way this dummy didn't cheat from start to finish. Probably even first round which he won, including the pines episode.
I had a vaguely positive opinion on EE before this. The fact that Miz had such a serious plea for people not to cheat during the finale, and he still cheated anyway, shows his true character a lot in my eyes. He even popped off like crazy and thanking his parents without a shred of regret. If I had a friend that pulled off something so greedy and deceitful while also literally stealing 50k I would be absolutely furious. Miz under reacted imo, I feel so bad for him.
He didn't pocket the money though. Miz reacted like a professional and just took it on the chin and tried to let the cheater become the better person. I also had a fairly positive opinion on EE and sure that was a shitty thing to do but at least he admitted it and didn't pocket the money. You have to make mistakes to grow. We've all made some before, some little, some large, but its how you act while no one is watching which says more. Even if the apology was forced it doesn't matter because they saw a fault in their logic and came to that conclusion, I'm assuming, on their own.
@@ultimaq8730 I've got a few stories about him as a streamer and just as a not so good dude which have left a bad taste in my mouth every time I've given him a chance. I wasn't surprised when I saw this video tbh. That being said, I'm probably not his target demographic anyway. There's no reason a dude can't be funny and sharp and clever AND a bit immoral. If you vibe with his content, it shouldn't really matter to you if he's dishonest. Mans is just entertainment
How did you have a positive opinion on him? He's always being a racist piece of shit at smash events and is in general a piece of shit. I don't get why the smash community let's him do and get away with whatever
Damn. I feel so sad for Mizzy. He's so passionate about Schooled, he's let some cheating slide for content. But cheating in the 1v1 finals with 50k on the line??? Even if you don't care about the money or even if EE owned up to it at the end, it still ruined the experience for Miz which he doesn't deserve.
Don’t feel too bad for Miz, this is still content and people talking, and at the end of the day that’s what Miz really wants. I’m sure it bothers him (and I hope it isn’t bothering him enough to avoid another season). At the end of the day it’s his show, this is how he decided to run it, and he’s getting more views from the cheating. Wins all around for content. Emily was the one I felt the worst for, because she had her win stolen in the moment.
@@Camibug i think Miz already confirmes there's not gonna be another seasons of schooled, after this there's gonna be the KR trip and after that the LA Trip with OTK
This instance is not like he is just a school cheater. He knowingly tried to rob a fellow streamer. Now he just should not be given any other opportunity like that and im sure plenty of streamers will have a bad taste left and not want to collab with him. I wonder how the call went with his mom when he told her "nvm mom i did not win 50k. I cheated because im not actually smart, sorry!"
I’m glad you’re saying this. The amount of high profile people responding “Hey man mistakes happen,” in response to EE stealing 50k from his opponent is fucking bizarre. “Good on you for coming clean!” They literally confirmed he cheated and he gave a pretty weak apology. Really disappointing
@@sadminer1339 a decent person doesn't fucking cheat in a competition for money smartass. This wasn't just "an accident". Dude went above and beyond to cheat, clearly he knew what the fuck he was doing.
I'm from Norway, and we actually learned about Jean-Jacques Rousseau and the 'Social Contract', pretty sure I've learned about him twice during my education even. Once briefly in high-school, and once more in depth in Uni. In Uni here in Norway (we don't really have 'college' here, just University), every person has to take a course called 'Ex-Phil' though their bachelor degree. It's just kind of basic 'philosophy', the point of it is to encourage 'critical thinking', any student studying at Uni needs to at least have some background knowledge on basic Philosophical history to complete their degree, regardless of the type of degree. Some might argue it's pointless or stupid, but I honestly think it's pretty good. Regardless of what kind of job you're going into, it's useful to be able to think independently, and know your moral and human rights. That being said... I would have totally blanked on that question myself. Because although when I heard 'Social Contract' I knew I knew who wrote it, I had no chance recalling the name on a time limit 😂. People will make fun of streamers on the show for what they get wrong and stuff, which is a big reason why many cheat I think, to preserve their pride. But pretty much every person will struggle to recall things they learned years ago, particularly when under time pressure and on a time limit.
even though she had lost her actual episode and was a substitute for the Finals, I'm glad Extra Emily won, she seemed so genuine and smart.. I wish Uncle Fooze woulda gotten a little further though, but it's honestly such a Fuslie thing to think a Frog is a Reptile
EE has also admitted to cheating in Yugioh tournaments by covertly stealing cards from other players' decks, reporting the player for illegal decks, and consequently getting them disqualified. He literally laughed about it on stream....so yeah, pretty shit track record. Video Proof: ruclips.net/video/H1vlizKV9WM/видео.html (start at 19m 57s if timestamp doesn't work) Edited to add video link.
@@frickthefuckoff I feel like it's worse if there is no price. You are ruining the experience of someone who's just there to have a good time just so you can get a tiny ego stroke.
Wow wtf that's fucking wack. Yeah I don't like ee at all anymore if that's actually true. Show me a clip or further proof and yeah my opinion for sure is definitely changed on him
I felt the weight of mizkif saying not to cheat. Anyone that has ever seen a single thing mizkif has done would feel it. The guy just doesn’t get like that, at least on stream. He always keeps it light and fast paced. EE clearly felt it as well, which makes it even more disappointing that he still decided to cheat.
He even lied during his apology, he said he was mad because of the river question and that's why he cheated HE CLEARLY CHEATED ON THE RIVER QUESTION ALSO AND ON QUESTIONS BEFORE IT HE CHEATED THROUGH OUT THE SHOW
At least he admitted to cheating, that in itself can be hard, but it can be extra hard to admit to the scale of your wrongdoings and therefore you end up sugarcoating it a bit. While I do agree it would be better if was upfront about it the most important thing was that the rightful winner won.
@@Maltesfilm He admitted only when there was evidence and everyone already knew he cheated. Still didn't admit to it completely, he also took the huge host after the show and ruined Mizkifs youtube video for the finale. I liked him before but he's actually a pos.
@@aClownBaby- Okay? Because I never claimed that. All I said was him admitting to any amount of cheating was the most important part since that resulted in Emily winning. Anything more than that is just for us/his reputation.
@@Maltesfilm The only reason he admitted to it was because of the clear evidence that showed him cheating. If he was doing it out of his conscience then I may have a sliver of respect but I highly doubt that
He definitely cheated on the first episode too. He went on his stream after "winning" the 50k and said "y'all never wanna see a black man win." To pull the race card while knowing he cheated is absolutely pathetic. He deserves no respect.
@@GenericUser860 "wasn't actually serious" doesn't justify it. if you watch the show you can tell he had multiple premeditated defenses like that and he played them off as completely serious. him not being serious about it makes it way worse
@@rumfordc Multiple pre-meditated defenses? It's a fucking joke. It's a bit he runs all the time where he makes jokes about his race, calling white people racist. Everytime he said something like that it was clearly good natured.
There is a greater shame then getting caught cheating, CHEATING. Getting caught is not the issue, thinking it is okay just because you get away with it is the problem.
@@zwishking6032 yea the camera footage of her looking at her 2nd monitor every 5 seconds even when she was supposed to be turned around. also having strange reactions to the cheating call-outs, having no issues with EE's cheating, and not wanting the money after. not that it really matters to me either but people were noticing it live until EE really took the spotlight
That's... the whole point of doing things that are wrong. Like you're not going to just admit to doing objectively bad things because there is literally nothing good about it. Sunk cost fallacy and all that noise. You need to reevaluate your mindset if you still think this.
@mailtogetpwned senile, depressed, probably hating life. Continue that mindset. See how far you get. Innocent comment for laughs, and you had to say some dumb stuff.
Cheating is one of those yucky things for everyone involved. It ruins it for everyone so it's disappointing to see EE act like this. The worst thing to do is half-ass an apology, or keep up pretenses. It's embarrassing to see him act like "oh I've only cheated once" when it's clear there are multiple other instances where he lied. He doesn't get to act like it was a small tiny issue when it's literally $50k on the line. Looking forward to seeing him move on properly from this.
@@oggan97 i disagree. he still shows some contempt for the classroom in his new apology refusing to acknowledge how it reflects on his character. he needs to find God.
@@iconic3606 yeah, I know. But umbrella said they disagree with oggan’s opinion replying to the guy who posted the video link which isn’t even related to the video.
it sucks because EE is truly one of my favorite streamers. Dont let this one scenario cause you to think of him as a scumbag because he really is talented and has done many great things for the smash community
@@Masterdeath16 Okay but you realise how intentionally trying to steal 50,000$ DOES make you a scumbag no matter how much other decent shit you've done, right?
All of his streamer friends expect and ask the viewers to give him another chance because he’s supposedly funny and talented, but how can we give someone another chance if they’re not even being 100% honest in an apology? He literally would have walked away with 50k if it weren’t for that one specific image. I don’t care how talented and funny he is, that was and is still beyond fucked up.
@@antivistva6834 Obviously not because there were more honest contestants than cheaters. Shows who is a scumbag and who isn't. He didn't even have the balls to admit to all the cheating moments, but sure go off.
I hate when people jump to and assume racism by default just because someone happens to be a certain race. This has nothing to do with race, whether correct or not about the accusation, and race wouldn't have been relevant if the accusers didn't bring it up.
@@char5379 No. I'm living in reality where I don't expect everyone to walk on eggshells to not offend broken people who interpret everything as some sort of ism.
I was watching Schooled live and it was obvious he cheated I was so sad because Emily was so good in the show, I felt so stupid watching her solve things in seconds. I'm so glad he owned up and told the truth
@@vincenth.8709 Yeah they were XD but I'm slower than her, and she basically new every answer. I would have failed the final science question which she got right but she decided to copy
Cheated on a grade 5 French test. Just like you Ludwig, teacher grabbed my test and ripped it to shreds in front of the class. Truly one of my most shameful moments. Had to have my mother sign a note saying I cheated, and it was such an awful experience I’m proud to say I actively avoid it. It ruins the game for everyone, no matter what your doing! Especially since I have a rich love for board gaming and video games, and love teaching new ones to friends.
she actually got the a correct answer in the one of the final answers and he got it wrong but she used her copy to be safe and because of that she lost the game
@@Johnny-ci8mw she did though she looked at her other monitor multiple times even after being told to stay turned around, she even had the same sus "hands up!" response EE did when Miz was saying to not cheat, after EE admitted cheating she didn't care, its pretty obvious she was cheating too but EE stole the spotlight. it doesn't excuse EE in anyway, im just saying its really 3rd place who deserves the win.
@@GuRuGeorge03 Then you must be into some truly degenerate stuff. It’s damn near impossible to go onto a porn site and not get recommended a Mia Malkova video now and again.
@@peytonalexander5300 I legit didn't know who she was because I only follow ASMR OnlyFans porn and gangbang pissing trans porn. Occasionally knife play porn as well.
I still remember studying computer science at college about 35 years ago. I hadn't paid attention in the class about Pascal so was lost on the assignment we had. A classmate left themselves logged on in the computer room and they had their work in progress on screen. So I copied it and tried to work from that. Reverse engineering someone else's code is never fun, especially when you don't properly understand the language, and especially when their code DOESN'T WORK! To this day I have no idea how I spent days trying to fix their code before giving up on it and trying to write my own and actually got something functional in... but that was hell. Don't cheat kids. ;)
After the penis episode, I only knew EE as the snake in the group who would betray his friends to win and then for this to happen made it seem expected, almost part of his character. You're absolutely right in that a broader audience will, at least for the foreseeable future, only know him as the guy who cheated. Mistakes are mistakes and we all make them, the internet just immortalizes them for much longer.
He’s not even being fully transparent about it and trying to say it’s only the one maths question. Wouldn’t be surprised if he cheated in his first appearance and lied when Ludwig asked.
Continuously making the decision to cheat multiple times, taking time/money/opportunities away from multiple people, sabotaging a show someone worked really hard on, and then CELEBRATING about what he just did should not be considered a "mistake". This piece of shit did not give a single fuck about the people he was hurting until he HAD to come forward because too many people were calling him out. And he can't even fake apologize right because he said he "kinda" stole Emily's moment. Uh, no asshole, you just straight up stole her moment with 100% deliberation. As far as I'm concerned, this guy absolutely sucks and doesn't deserve any more chances.
The schooled IRL idea, Is there a way you could do what some artists do when they go on tour, and collaborate an audience, along with your Mogul Money live show? Do your shows back to back for the live audience in one sitting, and work together to fill a bigger theatre/audience? I know there’s so much setup and coordination involved, but that would be so sick 😂🔥
3:17 she probably knew what she was talking about because G U A C are the letters for the nitrogenous bases of RNA, and DNA has the same bases except the U (uracil) is replaced with T (thymine).
I like how Ludwig in a portion of the video is talking directly to EE, showing that he might be remembered as the guy who cheated on Schooled, and showing he's more than that. Lud always knowing what to say in these Mogul Mails 👌🏼👌🏼
To be honest it is what will happen and imho fully deserved. You have to be an a**hole to pull it off like this. But he already showed his true face during the Lud episode by being only one who written down the answer.
@@Arhey Like Atrioc said, there is 0 reason to not cheat for such a massive amount of money. There is no punishment for cheating. And for anyone who isn't a child and knows about living expenses, 50k is a life changing amount for the vast majority of people. It's 100% an absolute scum thing to do, but until there is a proper punishment by twitch for doing it, people will continue to cheat.
This is why I enjoy Ludwig. He keeps it real and takes his own advice when it comes to things about integrity - remember his gambling admission? The man is one of the few pure streamers on the platform.
@@kanaesimp4924 no. its the truth. people like you who dont care about what he did all that much will end up getting conned your whole life. then you will forgive the con artists and they will con you again.
@@MrMegakickass Dont think Lud was being completely honest my dude. Everyone knows EE cheated on the Jean Rousseau question. However EE still states that he only cheated on the math question, the only question with hard evidence he cheated. Lud says he believed him but he def knows he’s still lying but is trying to be political about the situation and not muddy the waters too much.
I don’t agree. I love Ludwig but one thing about Ludwig that have always annoyed me is he is always very biased towards his friends no matter what they do. It’s understandable and it just shows that he is a very loyal person but it makes his takes cringe sometimes
For me the worst part was the phone call to his parents after the win. It’s one thing to cheat but then to brag to his mom about how he did it by himself and did it for them- it really rubs me the wrong way. It’s like doubling down on the lie by adding an emotional component to it- messed up.
He 100% cheated in that penis episode, I already knew it before this finale episode happened, even his viewers were joking that he cheated because they know he's too dumb to win these, it's obvious that he kept looking on his right monitor every time. Good video!
That shows you how much he cares about his friends if he is willing to hold on to part of his lie when he already confessed to the other part. At that point just fully confess to everything you cheated on.
Also, I studied history in college and never in my life I saw someone call rousseau "Jean Rousseau". It's always just "Rousseau" or his entire name "Jean-Jacques Rousseau", or sometimes even just "Jacques Rousseau", but I never seen "Jean Rousseau". That also felt really strange... if he really knew the answer and really knew Rousseau I think he would definitely not right the way he did hahaha kinda like calling Harry Potter just by Harry James
@@cassiopiao1910 You are correct although I've never ever seen it written "Jacques Rousseau". His first name is Jean-Jacques. It's a single name. Only an American who's never heard of Rousseau would glance at the name and think "Jacques" must be a middle name. Like calling Lin-Manuel Miranda, Lin Miranda.
He's only admitting to cheating on the Math question yeah? I feel like he's just got to be 100% transparent at this point. As for Schooled, just make the finale a live in-person show to make sure the winner of actual cash isn't cheating.
What, you think he just closed his eyes and magically drew a 1 and a 0?? How tf do you do that on “accident”??? Obviously that was on purpose and it was a bitchy move
So EE is both a snake and a rat. That's not good for him, I even liked his part in that clip with Emily when she was saying some easily mistakeable things about who was a dark horse.
I absolutely love this channel. Been watching your main RUclips for over a year, but this channel feels like it's just you shooting the sh*t with us telling us a story, whether personal or not personal, in an informal and entertaining way.
its incredibly obvious that he cheated on a lot of questions, its sad, if he owned up to it properly people might actually be able to look past it, but with that terrible apology, no shot he deserves to be forgiven with that.
My solution is to just use different tricks to expose the cheaters. Like casually asking further questions about the topic they got right, you can ask the question 10 minutes later, when you're already on to different questions so that wikipedia is not right in front of them. You can also sneak a college level question in middle school level and see if anybody gets it right (mute everyone so they don't give the cheater a clue to just get that question wrong like everybody else)
one of the greatest things about schooled is how they invite a lot of not really mainstream streamers to mizkif audience. of course miz could have just invited people that he could trust not to cheat, but then there will probably be only mainstream streamers and miz's friend that plays.
@@MogulMail id say for every 10 theres probably one cheater in the crowd. sad that even friends of his and people he says work the hardest cheat as well. Thanks for saying how it is, I know it hurts extra for you since he's a long time smash commentator.
Gonna be honest, I literally thought that you were gonna talk about Penis Gang and how he betrayed all of us. But in the end, the advice is exactly eevisu should take away because that can definitely help him bounce back no matter how low
@@Saeohhand here's another one. I'll enjoy my day off how I want, and you can keep reading my comments If you want 😊❤ sorry how I choose to spend my time bothers you. I'd hate for something so insignificant to bother me 🤣
Gotta say for the Andrea one, they were told to put chat in emote mode, not turn it off, that was only like the 2nd episode or something. And she lost to Captain Puffy or something who just was googling shit or something. I also think part of the problem with Miz is he constantly does this 'troll serious' thing, so no one ever truly takes him seriously. Even with Mia she was so obviously cheating and he called it out a couple times and she was clearly jokingly responding and he just let it go...so it was like he's totally just joking and he's not serious at all. Also very minor thing, I think the EE part with '128 - 44.55' I think that is 125 and he 'crossed' the 5 like to 'break' it like the .55 breaks the 5, it's a 4 now, minus 4 is zero. That's not exactly how that usually works, but I think that's what that is, a 5 with a strike through it, not actualyl an 8. Not saying he didn't cheat, of course he did, but I think that's not a correct example
I love how you say "during the zoom era" as though it was so long ago. I know the pandemic feels like it's lasted decades at this point, but college for me literally was decades ago
@@wildste the zoom era is ongoing. Our entire society transferred to online school and work where it could, it’s definitely it’s own era, even if we are still in it. It may be hard to grasp the impact of how much everything shifted since, as you said, it’s a different era than the one you went to school in :P
@@Camibug Oh yeah, I can't imagine what learning and testing is like for young people these days as it will be completely different to what I had. It's just the way the OP wrote the comment suggested, to me at least, that the "era of zoom" happened and then ended.
Definitely think EE just needs to come clean fully, everybody knows he is still lying. He cheated on more than one question on the last show (probably every one) and he cheated on the first show that he was on. Yet he has denied this to try and make what he did not as bad. He has a history of cheating and clearly cares more about winning than integrity.
The fact that he only won because he cheated, then made a big scene celebrating, thanking his parents and calling his mom, is so weird. It felt so disrespectful, imo. Also I kinda feel like he did that to stop Mizkif from calling him out in the moment.
@@rumfordc wait wasn't there a rule that they should only chat specifically in emotes so that they can't give the answer in chat? Or was that just in Mizkif's stream chat? Or was she even streaming at that time?
@@jordanlam1007 took two cards out of his opponents deck, called over a judge accusing his opponent for cheating saying he didn't have a full deck. Opponent gets disqualified because of this and then he steals the cards he took from the deck.
8:47 he put a slash through the 5, something common when you subtract numbers is to cross one out to visualize the fact it’s been “cancelled out” in that row. 5 - 4.55 on its own is less than 1, so you WOULD put a 0 under the line there. a slash can also be used if you need to carry a one somewhere. no reason for the other markings on the right side of board though, the hyphens did not sell it lol. but that is not an 8
I think i do have a solution for the cheating problem, but it might not be logistically possible: Have all the streamers with their normal stream setup for the viewers, but make them join a second discord call with their phone only for miz's team that run the show. The phone camera is pointing from behind them, onto their screens, so nobody can cheat, the viewers are reassured, and the privacy of the streamers is kept, because their phone cams aren't displayed on stream. But like i said, it is logistically a lot more work for all involved
although a great idea, a lot of the streamers get on there phone after they get the answer locked in and cant change it. I also had an idea similar where Miz or his team just send each contestant a camera with the wires and a tripod to set up behind them to look at the screens. But the problem in that one is a lot of the streamers don't even know that they are going to be on the show until a few days before because a lot of people drop out at the last second because they have something else to do that is more important.
Not being a simp, but Extra Emily is actually a great content creator, and it's sad she only gets a couple hundred viewers, because she does some silly stuff plus always has a smile on her face. Legitimately, if I'm having a bad day I go see if she's on. The other day she was reenacting Squid Game in English in real time while the show was playing off to the side. I saw her a couple months ago when she did the Mario 64 speedrun competition against Emiru, and Mizkif kept getting "angry" at how positive and happy she always was despite losing.
@@dickurkel6910 Not a weird thing to say. Literally every time I say I like a female that does something online I get called a simp. You probably have too. Even males. I could say that I like Sykkuno or CORPSE or anyone else in the twitch realm and people just say simp.
That’s such a shame. I voted Emily since round one so I’m super proud that she won… just a huge shame her spotlight was outshined by EE. Especially on the final Schooled. Super big shame.
he didnt "own up", he only confessed because he got caught. imagine stealing 50k from a friend, its even worse than if it was a random guy you dont know. atroic with the aboslute trash take laughing it off thinks its ok to steal 50k from a friend
I think it's so scummy to cheat when it effects someone. If you're cheating in your own test at school, you don't hurt anyone. He almost scammed someone out of 50k. At least he admitted to it, but he still did it.
An irl Schooled would legitimately be the perfect way to end it, and having more contestants would definitely help add to the chaotic nature a real classroom has. Of course I think there should be a lot more added to it, you don’t want a person to fly out from another country only to have them leave or stop playing after 7 minutes. So I do hope it actually happens but the whole otk creative team is gonna have to think of a way to keep the creators happy and not bored from not knowing a 3rd grader question and getting out after 10 minutes. Overall would love to watch the continuation of schooled but due to cheating it kinda ruined the whole premise, and the introduction of 50k definitely allowed others to cheat even if they did feel bad, like I can guarantee almost all of the viewers would cheat to get 50k
@@Cancer. streamers have had a lot of events with many people, and usually there will be one or two people fucking around, but it’s more controlled chaos than anything. It’s also not like one of those streamer events where they just fuck around and play dodge ball. They’re just answering questions
@@milk__teee yeah but they still have to go somewhere, streamers are lazy as shit, if these people won't show up online in a video call, what makes you think they'll fly out to texas to be on the show?
I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring and agree with you that while it might be difficult to coordinate, the IRL finale would be great! Picture all the Otk members standing around the "classroom" wearing suits and sunglasses making sure nobody is cheating. Lots of potential for a great event there.
Stealing $50k is a crime. He did not own-up, he got caught. He took the win, phoned his Mom and was down the street around the corner. He forgave himself in his "own-up" he dosen't say the word cheat. he says "surcomed to a little temptation" The show is dead! being a streamer attracts extreme personalities, narcissists to the nicests people with no inbetween. If anything the $50k finally proved this show cannot work. Ludwig is just trying to be a good guy here but he is peeing in our pockets and telling us it is raining. The who wants to be a millionaire cheater Charles Ingram went to trial and was sentanced to 12 months with a massive fine.
Yeah, I agree. I get why Ludwig didn't want to completely throw his friend under the bus, but he probably should have just not weighed in since this is far from objective. I don't agree with cancelling everyone over every little thing, but stuff like the animal abuse with Alinity and trying to cheat someone out of 50k aren't minor things. They're basically the equivalent of serious crimes and the fact that they get away with barely apologizing with no negative consequences always rubs me the wrong way. Any of us would get in serious trouble for that stuff.
Well as a streamer, his reputation is tarnished and he probably won't get invited back to any OTK events again, and will just be less likely to get collabs at all in the future. Really not worth the $50k even if he did pocket the money, since his career just took a nosedive. The game show itself is fine, the fact that people cheat just gives it more attention which is exactly what Mizkif wants. He's probably disappointed that it happened in the finals but moreso for the other contestant than for his own show, since she didn't get to celebrate her victory.
@@conormoloney4986 If the thief never had the money, was he ever a thief? A fraud, yes. Maybe you should consider why you want it to be a harsher issue than it was.
The last question did it for me for sure. I had the right idea of Ross something of other but the fact he knew the Jean part was bizzare. I have done quiz bowl for years so I have seen some really knowledgeable high schoolers and no one, myself included, ever thinks about first names unless it is something they are really passionate about. There is no way EE is this passionate about enlightenment thinkers to remember a first name as generic as Jean.
@@zigzag9197 but the full name is jean-jacques writing Jean Rousseau is just wrong and would feel wrong to anyone with the answer. If you write Jean something Rousseau because you are like i know it's a composed name that is fine but just Jean Rousseau is weird.
@@rumfordc IDK what your seeing, I'm pretty sure all the "Reddit detectives" looked at every single person. If she was cheating, theyd be on her ass too. And if she did cheat then she still deserves it as this was a trial of smarts and EE not only failed the test but was ass at hiding his cheating LOL
@@devonwilliams2423 yea there are people on reddit calling her out too, and even in twitch live as it was happening people were pointing out "both sus" but there is only room for so much drama at once.
At least he admitted to it in the end. Over the years I have learned to forgive and forget. It's sad he disappointed his parents by cheating. But parents are the most forgiven of us all. In my college medical terminology class the teacher used the same tests every single semester and my friend had stolen all the answers and copied them the semester before. So when we became overwhelmed by Anatomy & Physiology 2 class work plus the lab we would just memorize the test for medical terminology. (A,B,A,A,A,C,D, ETC) So yeah, I still had to take the final and passed it with an A. But always felt bad about that. I did tell my Mom. She passed away recently though. I miss her a lot.
He only admitted to it because of decisive evidence. And he's then been caught probably cheating for other questions when he claimed he wasn't cheating.
@@zachdiaziii9747 in his video last night he said “you’re watching this unedited video instead of Netflix”. Still, unedited, sent to an editor, edited himself, it takes mental planning to research and make a video like this. He’s definitely putting work in and playing with the algorithm.
The common thread I always see in these situations is that when outright caught, people will only admit to as little of the wrongdoing as they can. It’s never just “A friend saw me struggling and sent me the answer to the math question.” If someone fesses up to just the part that they can no longer deny, that’s not remorse that’s damage control. It’s always more without fail.
It really sucks to see that EE did that. I love the guy, was really holding out hope that he didn’t cheat. At least it was made right at the end and Emily got the win she deserved
I really like Schooled. I enjoyed it by watching the vods and play along with them. But if the episodes have cheating, it destroys the fun and spoil the ep for me. Disappointed that it ended that way and probably Miz will not make another season of it.
It would be cool if he did 1-off episodes IRL with people. He could probably schedule them around TwitchCon/shitcon/shitcamp pretty easily, IRL is the only true way to make sure people will not cheat. Miz could also just try to only invite trustworthy people (Jerma, Northernlion, etc.), but honestly idk if he could get 8 weeks worth of trustworthy streamers lol.
In the second bit of evidence (the whiteboard), the part that says 128 is actually a 125 with a slash through it to indicate the reduction you do with subtraction. That being said he didn't put the slash in the 2 or the 1, so it is a little weird.
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As a person with glasses, I promise you that that is the most embarrassing way to get caught cheating
caught in 8k
@@figshwg nah fought in 20/20 vision
or you'll be watching something sus on the screen, and it reflects off your glasses while your teacher can see your webcam
@@puppet5028 20/10 vision lmao
You got caught cheating with glasses? The HORROR!! Should've taken them off before sexy time...
I’m not gonna lie I cheated a lot on tests and homework and never felt a shred of guilt. If i cheated in a tournament taking money away from people is where I’d feel like a huge POS.
At least emily actually got the money
I feel there is an excuse to do so (in highschool) because a lot of the time you won’t be using certain concepts
yea especially when its streamers making a tons of money already when its just supposed to be something fun
Cheating in school is perpetration for the big leagues, Allen. Don’t forget the teachings of Naruto, Gainz. It not cheating if you don’t get caught, poke em in the eyes while the referee is can see naught… MMA.
Shiid I wouldn't it's only a game on twitch as long as Ian get caught im good u can call me what u want.😂😂
"The next person is Mia Malkova, I don't know who she is I think she's an actor" 10/10 acting
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Who is Mia malkova?
@@WomenRepellent69porn actress
@@WomenRepellent69 A pxorne star
@@gradyroche Oooh alright thanks
What i find the most surreal is the fact mizkif spent 5-10 minutes essentially begging people not to cheat during the stream and EE still did
@@TheSpacePlaceYT Bro, what?
@@jorjepetersondale9182 I'm bringing the question up not to suggest that I would do something like that, but rather to defend EE. By all means the controversy is well deserved, but some of the death threats and such that he gets is just too much. I'm simply asking the question to reflect on what EE was really thinking about.
Temptation happens all the time, wether it be retaliation or overall doing something you know you aren't supposed to do. Your response is reasonable and in fact is the correct response in my eyes, but I wasn't exactly suggesting that I would do the same, but I was suggesting that if it came down to it, most people would at least hesitate for a split second before making an ultimate decision.
Edit: I guess I'm trying to humanize him without defending him but it definitely didn't work and just makes me look bad in the process.
@@jorjepetersondale9182 Rereading my comment I honestly feel terrible. I thought that I was only humanizing him by saying he's not the only one, but by doing so I've torn down myself.
What I meant vs what I said honestly didn't translate well, and this will be something to remember in the future. Just as a note though, I didn't attempt to compare each scenario, and the scenario in question actually wasn't what you said it was. The question was not "Would you save someone's life by fracturing another," it was "Would you kill someone for taking someone you loved", which are entirely different and is definitely warping my character in an unreasonably extreme manner.
Looking back, I sound like a completely different person, even if the response was only an hour ago. I still believe that his "temptation" was a reasonable explanation, just not good in a moral sense. This is something to remember in the future, and I probably should have never said anything in the first place. If there is nothing else to add, I will end it here.
*Edit: Despite everything suggested about me, I am completely rational and I believe that my morals aren't as scuffed as they sound. I guess so many people take situations way too far, and hearing about EE getting an unsettling amount of hate, death threats, and more at that medium, I felt like I had to defend him, which made me exclude the very reason why he's getting all of it in the first place.*
@@TheSpacePlaceYT I appreciate the apology and I feel like people need to do this more often these days. I read everything and I understand what you were trying to say. You just went about it terribly and I feel like this was the smartest thing to do other than deleting your comments. I understand why you wouldn't though.
@@jorjepetersondale9182 Sick man I'm glad you said that. Appreciated.
I’m glad Emily got the win she deserved, it’s just unfortunate that she didn’t get to celebrate her victory in the moment
She went from Miz randomly looking for a streamer (like lily275?) to deservedly winning 50k and hanging out with one of the biggest streamers on English twitch. I hope her career blows up cuz she's great
I HATE people that HATE other people. The comment I respond to did not spread HATE. That is good. BUT! I get a lot of HATE comments on my amazing videos and I HATE it. Please don't start spreading HATE. Do I have to HATE you too, dear mc
@@AxxLAfriku How about no?
@@AxxLAfriku your videos would have made it 10 years ago man, that ain't it
@@AxxLAfriku you don’t deserve hate comments bro. Matter of fact You don’t deserve any comments or views. Your Videos better stay the fuck off of my wall.
lud pretending not to know mia is the funniest part
finally someone mentions it lmao
@@minimunk7 That's because none of us get it 🤐
An"actress"
@@UOUPv2 shes a famous porn star
@@UOUPv2 p**n actress
This is more like stealing from a friend than cheating on a test. Pretty brutal.
Stealing from ExtraEmily...who is literally the nicest streamer
@i know that your dad?
True, that's is kinda pathetic behavior
Kind of POS behavior tbh coming from the guy
well he admitted to it so he didnt end up stealing it but yeah.
Worst part was the calling of the parents at the end. Farming empathy points after knowingly ruining the finale is wild to me
It's also to prevent being talked to by miz/em in the moment, since you could slip up easily. The empathy points don't hurt either of course
That part is actually uncomfortably deceitful
Mizkif was literally about to call him out, too. You can hear him start saying, "That was the most legendary throw-" before EE cuts him off to talk to his mom. Such a weird and embarrassing move, imo.
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That was what disgusted me the most. He cheated and then thanked his parents in an emotional speech and then he only admitted to cheating after getting caught. The way his "apology" was accepted as if it was nothing was surprising. He truly deserved being called out for the scumbag move he did, it wasn't just an honest mistake.
I love the tough love ludwig is giving to EE, telling him point blank this is how hundreds of thousands of people are going to look at him and that type of scrutiny can and will stick with you for a long time. especially since cheating isn't the only problem with this episode. even if in the end he admitted to his wrong(s) he still ruined the show in the moment for the host, other contestants who were/might've been playing fairly and the people watching. On top of that people seeing Miz's reaction to EE's celebration can obviously see he doesn't think this was won fairly. Not to mention this adds more black lash on Miz and his show because people are still cheating either for money or so they don't look "stupid". even though 90% of these questions are stuff we were either taught over a decade ago or not at all.
I think everyone just needs to sit down and have a massive pizza party payed by RUclips. I would like it barbecue, and I don’t mind pineapple. I would also take fries to go on the side. And after our big party we can all be chill again.
Black lash lol
That ending was perfect. I didn’t know who this was, but you got it completely right. I will only know EE as the guy who cheated and almost stole 50k.
Fuckin bummer too I love EE
The worst part is him trying to thug on your heart strings with the ''nobody believed in me'' card and him supposedly calling his mom. It's so embarassing now.
wasn't he also the dude that got caught lookin' at the booty in some event? lmao
@@aviphyt Yeah not to defend the guy, but he said they were friends and the girl said it was fine.
@@raptor_guy2327 parasocial andy
Schooled IRL is actually a rly cool idea!
True that
Good fkn luck getting 8 streamers to show up in person.
Wait a minute...
@@android059 came here to say this. of course it's a good idea just harder to do. also miz loves this shit. cheating is part of the show now, and chat is pretty good at finding the cheaters anyway.
@@android059 schlatt jenga
From my experience, it is very rare for cheaters to cheat only once. They may only get caught once, but they usually have a long list of other times they've cheated. Sure most of those times we wave off as harmless, but where is the line drawn when cheaters clearly benefit from cheating?
There is no way this guy knew Jean-Jacques Rousseau wrote the Social Contract. He most probably doesn't even have a single clue about who was Rousseau! (An important philosopher around the time of the French revolution.) Or maybe he took one week to memorize the entirety of Wikipedia? Yeah maybe...
This guy can barely do a single-digit addition, come on!!! lol
as someone who likes to exploit in games or use scripts this is def true
I'm pretty sure the "owning up" part of the apology did not happen. He was forced to admit that it happened as the last resort to save face. This man legitimately betrayed a friend to steal a large sum of money while being fully aware of how wrong it was. Ludwig's doing his best at damage control, but I have a feeling if their positions were swapped, this "friend" of Ludwig's might just do what he did to Mizkif - backstabbing for short term success, gets caught and regret yet again.
We had begged to be on miz’s stream so he begged to get on a scam him out of 50k
Yah basically got caught stealing 50k ...if he wasn't called out and nobody noticed anything fishy he would of kept the 50k without feeling guilty
@@Smart-Towel-RG-400 Dude, even if that's correct (which it probably is) please don't assume that. You don't know for a fact that it's true.
I was trying to play devil’s advocate but your comment kinda pushed me over, well said
@@Smart-Towel-RG-400 He's saying that he might feel guilty about it, but that doesn't translate to him keeping the money.
Honestly what pisses me off more than the cheating is the gaul to call your parents live and celebrate knowing you cheated the whole time.
Tbf he was unlucky to get caught
@@connor10harrisonhe shouldn’t have cheated in general.
When there's a prize on the line for a competition, especially a CASH prize, the argument of "Just own up to the mistakes of cheating and you're redeemed" goes out the window in my eyes. He effectively stole money, which is a felony in most of the world. He got caught and ridiculed while guilt-tripping others by pulling the race card like he's done before, and then when he realized he wasn't gonna get away from his crime, he fessed up for ONE of the problems, and not the entire competition. Sure, we'll never know if he cheated the entire competition, but there's a nice little saying about liars: "Once you've caught someone in one lie, it becomes a whole lot easier to catch them in other, bigger lies." Most times people that lie start off small, realize they got away with it, and keep going bigger and bigger till they get caught, where they then admit to lying. That's the path of a pathological liar, and I'd not be surprised if EE was one.
With all that said, I reiterate: There is no forgiveness for someone committing a felony/crime, only justice in a court of law. They will rightfully be known as a cheater hopefully for the rest of their life, and will feel the guilt of almost allowing himself to steal 50k from the rightful winner of the competition.
Yeah. Watching interrogations a lot, there seems to be a pattern. They confess to smoking weed a few times to show they are being honest but the weed confession is just a tactic to hopefully get across as being honest, so they later can deny the more serious charges. No way this dummy didn't cheat from start to finish. Probably even first round which he won, including the pines episode.
I had a vaguely positive opinion on EE before this. The fact that Miz had such a serious plea for people not to cheat during the finale, and he still cheated anyway, shows his true character a lot in my eyes. He even popped off like crazy and thanking his parents without a shred of regret. If I had a friend that pulled off something so greedy and deceitful while also literally stealing 50k I would be absolutely furious. Miz under reacted imo, I feel so bad for him.
He didn't pocket the money though.
Miz reacted like a professional and just took it on the chin and tried to let the cheater become the better person.
I also had a fairly positive opinion on EE and sure that was a shitty thing to do but at least he admitted it and didn't pocket the money. You have to make mistakes to grow. We've all made some before, some little, some large, but its how you act while no one is watching which says more.
Even if the apology was forced it doesn't matter because they saw a fault in their logic and came to that conclusion, I'm assuming, on their own.
@@ultimaq8730 EE has cheated before
@@ultimaq8730 He would've pocketed the money if no one noticed he was cheating.
@@ultimaq8730 I've got a few stories about him as a streamer and just as a not so good dude which have left a bad taste in my mouth every time I've given him a chance. I wasn't surprised when I saw this video tbh. That being said, I'm probably not his target demographic anyway. There's no reason a dude can't be funny and sharp and clever AND a bit immoral. If you vibe with his content, it shouldn't really matter to you if he's dishonest. Mans is just entertainment
How did you have a positive opinion on him? He's always being a racist piece of shit at smash events and is in general a piece of shit. I don't get why the smash community let's him do and get away with whatever
Damn. I feel so sad for Mizzy. He's so passionate about Schooled, he's let some cheating slide for content. But cheating in the 1v1 finals with 50k on the line??? Even if you don't care about the money or even if EE owned up to it at the end, it still ruined the experience for Miz which he doesn't deserve.
Don’t feel too bad for Miz, this is still content and people talking, and at the end of the day that’s what Miz really wants. I’m sure it bothers him (and I hope it isn’t bothering him enough to avoid another season). At the end of the day it’s his show, this is how he decided to run it, and he’s getting more views from the cheating. Wins all around for content.
Emily was the one I felt the worst for, because she had her win stolen in the moment.
@@Camibug i think Miz already confirmes there's not gonna be another seasons of schooled, after this there's gonna be the KR trip and after that the LA Trip with OTK
Sounds about white
@@waefawawrgaw2835 Sounds about black cheating and stealing, huh?
@@waefawawrgaw2835 what
This instance is not like he is just a school cheater. He knowingly tried to rob a fellow streamer. Now he just should not be given any other opportunity like that and im sure plenty of streamers will have a bad taste left and not want to collab with him. I wonder how the call went with his mom when he told her "nvm mom i did not win 50k. I cheated because im not actually smart, sorry!"
I would cheat aswell
Cheating 101: don't wear reflective glasses
Real cheaters wear contacts
This reminded me of the same dude that got caught by Slime because he was wearing glasses
Factz like how u not remember yo glasses reflect damn near everything u look at anyways 😭
@@khronicganjaofoz i mean i wear glasses all the time so you kinda ger used to it
I cheated in yugioh by telling my friend what card he was going to play because of his reflection on his glasses
I’m glad you’re saying this. The amount of high profile people responding “Hey man mistakes happen,” in response to EE stealing 50k from his opponent is fucking bizarre. “Good on you for coming clean!” They literally confirmed he cheated and he gave a pretty weak apology. Really disappointing
He could have just not said anything. This shows he's a decent person he just fucked up.
Or he could have not cheated in the first place. He only admitted cuz he was called out heavily. Had no one noticed, he would never have come clean.
THIS. he stole that money and played us all for fools, but let's support him because he said sorry 🙄
@@prangprue you don't know that
@@sadminer1339 a decent person doesn't fucking cheat in a competition for money smartass. This wasn't just "an accident". Dude went above and beyond to cheat, clearly he knew what the fuck he was doing.
I'm from Norway, and we actually learned about Jean-Jacques Rousseau and the 'Social Contract', pretty sure I've learned about him twice during my education even. Once briefly in high-school, and once more in depth in Uni. In Uni here in Norway (we don't really have 'college' here, just University), every person has to take a course called 'Ex-Phil' though their bachelor degree. It's just kind of basic 'philosophy', the point of it is to encourage 'critical thinking', any student studying at Uni needs to at least have some background knowledge on basic Philosophical history to complete their degree, regardless of the type of degree. Some might argue it's pointless or stupid, but I honestly think it's pretty good. Regardless of what kind of job you're going into, it's useful to be able to think independently, and know your moral and human rights.
That being said... I would have totally blanked on that question myself. Because although when I heard 'Social Contract' I knew I knew who wrote it, I had no chance recalling the name on a time limit 😂. People will make fun of streamers on the show for what they get wrong and stuff, which is a big reason why many cheat I think, to preserve their pride. But pretty much every person will struggle to recall things they learned years ago, particularly when under time pressure and on a time limit.
even though she had lost her actual episode and was a substitute for the Finals, I'm glad Extra Emily won, she seemed so genuine and smart.. I wish Uncle Fooze woulda gotten a little further though, but it's honestly such a Fuslie thing to think a Frog is a Reptile
she was cheating too lmao
@@rumfordc proof, or just shilling for a content creator who doesn’t give a shit about you?
I don't care who's genuine or not, just get someone who'll compete without cheating
EE has also admitted to cheating in Yugioh tournaments by covertly stealing cards from other players' decks, reporting the player for illegal decks, and consequently getting them disqualified. He literally laughed about it on stream....so yeah, pretty shit track record.
Video Proof: ruclips.net/video/H1vlizKV9WM/видео.html (start at 19m 57s if timestamp doesn't work)
Edited to add video link.
That's actually kinda scummy, especially if it's for a price.
yikes :/
@@frickthefuckoff I feel like it's worse if there is no price. You are ruining the experience of someone who's just there to have a good time just so you can get a tiny ego stroke.
Wow wtf that's fucking wack. Yeah I don't like ee at all anymore if that's actually true. Show me a clip or further proof and yeah my opinion for sure is definitely changed on him
@@michaelvandevusse3728 ruclips.net/video/H1vlizKV9WM/видео.html It starts at 19m 57s.
I felt the weight of mizkif saying not to cheat. Anyone that has ever seen a single thing mizkif has done would feel it. The guy just doesn’t get like that, at least on stream. He always keeps it light and fast paced. EE clearly felt it as well, which makes it even more disappointing that he still decided to cheat.
He even lied during his apology, he said he was mad because of the river question and that's why he cheated HE CLEARLY CHEATED ON THE RIVER QUESTION ALSO
AND ON QUESTIONS BEFORE IT
HE CHEATED THROUGH OUT THE SHOW
At least he admitted to cheating, that in itself can be hard, but it can be extra hard to admit to the scale of your wrongdoings and therefore you end up sugarcoating it a bit. While I do agree it would be better if was upfront about it the most important thing was that the rightful winner won.
@@Maltesfilm He admitted only when there was evidence and everyone already knew he cheated. Still didn't admit to it completely, he also took the huge host after the show and ruined Mizkifs youtube video for the finale. I liked him before but he's actually a pos.
@@Maltesfilm No, everyone that cheated on the show admitted to it. That’s not an achievement at all.
@@aClownBaby- Okay? Because I never claimed that. All I said was him admitting to any amount of cheating was the most important part since that resulted in Emily winning. Anything more than that is just for us/his reputation.
@@Maltesfilm The only reason he admitted to it was because of the clear evidence that showed him cheating. If he was doing it out of his conscience then I may have a sliver of respect but I highly doubt that
He definitely cheated on the first episode too. He went on his stream after "winning" the 50k and said "y'all never wanna see a black man win." To pull the race card while knowing he cheated is absolutely pathetic. He deserves no respect.
It's shitty that EE cheated, but he wasn't actually serious about that. He always makes jokes about being black.
@Rip Tide you’re missing the point, why even make that argument lol
@Rip Tide Not even related to what I said. And no one reasonable will get mad at you about making a race joke unless it's racist and hardly a joke.
@@GenericUser860 "wasn't actually serious" doesn't justify it. if you watch the show you can tell he had multiple premeditated defenses like that and he played them off as completely serious. him not being serious about it makes it way worse
@@rumfordc Multiple pre-meditated defenses? It's a fucking joke. It's a bit he runs all the time where he makes jokes about his race, calling white people racist. Everytime he said something like that it was clearly good natured.
There is a greater shame then getting caught cheating, CHEATING. Getting caught is not the issue, thinking it is okay just because you get away with it is the problem.
The cringiest part was how hard he celebrated or flexed everytime he got a question right. Sad tbh. Extra Emily deserved the W
EE funny but dumb as rocks, I'm sure he cheated since his first Schooled. He takes pride in finessing.
and he got weirdly defensive as if people were treating him like he was dumb.
ExtraEmily looks like she cheated as well, the 3rd place guy deserved the W
@@rumfordc got anything to back that up?
@@zwishking6032 yea the camera footage of her looking at her 2nd monitor every 5 seconds even when she was supposed to be turned around. also having strange reactions to the cheating call-outs, having no issues with EE's cheating, and not wanting the money after. not that it really matters to me either but people were noticing it live until EE really took the spotlight
The fact that he only admitted after he got caught seals the deal for me
Yeah, he didn't give a shit about it
That's... the whole point of doing things that are wrong.
Like you're not going to just admit to doing objectively bad things because there is literally nothing good about it. Sunk cost fallacy and all that noise.
You need to reevaluate your mindset if you still think this.
@@Geegs thank you
Lmao 3:44 "idk, I think she's an actress" 😂😂😂😂👏🏻
congratz, you got the joke that Ludwig literally spelled word for word so kids like you can get it
@mailtogetpwned senile, depressed, probably hating life. Continue that mindset. See how far you get. Innocent comment for laughs, and you had to say some dumb stuff.
Cheating is one of those yucky things for everyone involved. It ruins it for everyone so it's disappointing to see EE act like this. The worst thing to do is half-ass an apology, or keep up pretenses. It's embarrassing to see him act like "oh I've only cheated once" when it's clear there are multiple other instances where he lied. He doesn't get to act like it was a small tiny issue when it's literally $50k on the line. Looking forward to seeing him move on properly from this.
@don't be surprised Amazing apology, he is now forgiven in my eyes
@@oggan97 i disagree. he still shows some contempt for the classroom in his new apology refusing to acknowledge how it reflects on his character. he needs to find God.
@@umbranight1628 did you by any chance even click on the video 😂
@@RuneCl4w no, its a bot
@@iconic3606 yeah, I know. But umbrella said they disagree with oggan’s opinion replying to the guy who posted the video link which isn’t even related to the video.
Lud isn't wrong. I didn't know who this other guy was before schooled, now I just know him as a cheater. :/
it sucks because EE is truly one of my favorite streamers. Dont let this one scenario cause you to think of him as a scumbag because he really is talented and has done many great things for the smash community
@@Masterdeath16 he’s cheated multiple times in the past
@@Masterdeath16 Okay but you realise how intentionally trying to steal 50,000$ DOES make you a scumbag no matter how much other decent shit you've done, right?
@@augustusstrange1747 but he didn’t steal it? He gave it back and admitted he was wrong
@@Masterdeath16 yea cause he was caught, if he wasn’t he would’ve pocketed it
All of his streamer friends expect and ask the viewers to give him another chance because he’s supposedly funny and talented, but how can we give someone another chance if they’re not even being 100% honest in an apology? He literally would have walked away with 50k if it weren’t for that one specific image. I don’t care how talented and funny he is, that was and is still beyond fucked up.
And other people wouldn’t ?
@@antivistva6834 Obviously not because there were more honest contestants than cheaters. Shows who is a scumbag and who isn't. He didn't even have the balls to admit to all the cheating moments, but sure go off.
When he was called out for cheating in the chat, his chat defended him and said the accusers were racist lmao
It was so hard to continue watching
I hate when people jump to and assume racism by default just because someone happens to be a certain race.
This has nothing to do with race, whether correct or not about the accusation, and race wouldn't have been relevant if the accusers didn't bring it up.
Which makes no sense because if you look at Twitch community as a whole I'm pretty sure it's much more generally sexist than racist.
@@char5379 It's neither, people just think human nature should be entirely rewritten to not hurt their feelings.
@@artemisgaming7625 ? I said "more" never said it completely was. If you think there's no sexism on Twitch then you are living in a fantasy world.
@@char5379 No. I'm living in reality where I don't expect everyone to walk on eggshells to not offend broken people who interpret everything as some sort of ism.
I was watching Schooled live and it was obvious he cheated I was so sad because Emily was so good in the show, I felt so stupid watching her solve things in seconds. I'm so glad he owned up and told the truth
I agree
Tbf those highschool algebra problems could be solved with middleschool knowledge but she was the absolute goat and smarter than I'll ever be.
@@vincenth.8709 Yeah they were XD but I'm slower than her, and she basically new every answer. I would have failed the final science question which she got right but she decided to copy
He didnt own up, he got caught and was forced to admit it
@@Kyle-mz5cs and only admitted cheating one or two questions when it were almost all
Cheated on a grade 5 French test. Just like you Ludwig, teacher grabbed my test and ripped it to shreds in front of the class. Truly one of my most shameful moments. Had to have my mother sign a note saying I cheated, and it was such an awful experience I’m proud to say I actively avoid it. It ruins the game for everyone, no matter what your doing! Especially since I have a rich love for board gaming and video games, and love teaching new ones to friends.
Emily 100% deserves the win. She was great.
she actually got the a correct answer in the one of the final answers and he got it wrong but she used her copy to be safe and because of that she lost the game
Emily actually cheated as well, 3rd place deserves the win.
@@rumfordc Emily did not cheat
@@Johnny-ci8mw she did though she looked at her other monitor multiple times even after being told to stay turned around, she even had the same sus "hands up!" response EE did when Miz was saying to not cheat, after EE admitted cheating she didn't care, its pretty obvious she was cheating too but EE stole the spotlight.
it doesn't excuse EE in anyway, im just saying its really 3rd place who deserves the win.
@@rumfordc She didn’t cheat. She didn’t need to cheat. The last questions were easy. Even I knew them, and she’s way smarter than me.
Lud's performance of not knowing who Mia Malkova is deserves an Oscar.
I don't get it. He just doesn't know who a random person is actress or not 😃👍
I am a porn addict and I didn't know her either lol
@@GuRuGeorge03 Then you must be into some truly degenerate stuff. It’s damn near impossible to go onto a porn site and not get recommended a Mia Malkova video now and again.
@@peytonalexander5300 I legit didn't know who she was because I only follow ASMR OnlyFans porn and gangbang pissing trans porn. Occasionally knife play porn as well.
@@peytonalexander5300 Do you, like... _pay attention_ to pornstar names? That's pretty weird, dude
I still remember studying computer science at college about 35 years ago. I hadn't paid attention in the class about Pascal so was lost on the assignment we had. A classmate left themselves logged on in the computer room and they had their work in progress on screen. So I copied it and tried to work from that. Reverse engineering someone else's code is never fun, especially when you don't properly understand the language, and especially when their code DOESN'T WORK! To this day I have no idea how I spent days trying to fix their code before giving up on it and trying to write my own and actually got something functional in... but that was hell. Don't cheat kids. ;)
After the penis episode, I only knew EE as the snake in the group who would betray his friends to win and then for this to happen made it seem expected, almost part of his character. You're absolutely right in that a broader audience will, at least for the foreseeable future, only know him as the guy who cheated. Mistakes are mistakes and we all make them, the internet just immortalizes them for much longer.
He’s not even being fully transparent about it and trying to say it’s only the one maths question. Wouldn’t be surprised if he cheated in his first appearance and lied when Ludwig asked.
he used to cheat in yu gi oh tournaments as well, so just seems to be what he does
it couldn’t go on forever, tbf. one of them had to win.
@@krazysamurai that’s your excuse for cheating for 50k lmao
Continuously making the decision to cheat multiple times, taking time/money/opportunities away from multiple people, sabotaging a show someone worked really hard on, and then CELEBRATING about what he just did should not be considered a "mistake".
This piece of shit did not give a single fuck about the people he was hurting until he HAD to come forward because too many people were calling him out. And he can't even fake apologize right because he said he "kinda" stole Emily's moment. Uh, no asshole, you just straight up stole her moment with 100% deliberation. As far as I'm concerned, this guy absolutely sucks and doesn't deserve any more chances.
The schooled IRL idea,
Is there a way you could do what some artists do when they go on tour, and collaborate an audience, along with your Mogul Money live show?
Do your shows back to back for the live audience in one sitting, and work together to fill a bigger theatre/audience?
I know there’s so much setup and coordination involved, but that would be so sick 😂🔥
Probably struggle with length. It’d be 6-8 hours which is a really big ask of an audience
@@MogulMail it’s definitely a big ask but there no doubt that people would do it
@@Sliced110 not even big TV shows can command that. The average TV game show films in half that
@@Sliced110 no one is going to go and sit there for 8 hours lmfao
@@MogulMail just pay us. It'll work out
3:17 she probably knew what she was talking about because G U A C are the letters for the nitrogenous bases of RNA, and DNA has the same bases except the U (uracil) is replaced with T (thymine).
I like how Ludwig in a portion of the video is talking directly to EE, showing that he might be remembered as the guy who cheated on Schooled, and showing he's more than that. Lud always knowing what to say in these Mogul Mails 👌🏼👌🏼
True Ludwin moment.
To be honest it is what will happen and imho fully deserved. You have to be an a**hole to pull it off like this. But he already showed his true face during the Lud episode by being only one who written down the answer.
This reads like a discussion board post lmao
@@Arhey Like Atrioc said, there is 0 reason to not cheat for such a massive amount of money. There is no punishment for cheating.
And for anyone who isn't a child and knows about living expenses, 50k is a life changing amount for the vast majority of people.
It's 100% an absolute scum thing to do, but until there is a proper punishment by twitch for doing it, people will continue to cheat.
@@SuperCatacata why would twitch punish for a streamer game show lmao. Schooled isn’t cable TV it’s barely official
"Reputation is worth more than $50K and a dub on schooled." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau
he had such a way with words.
This is why I enjoy Ludwig. He keeps it real and takes his own advice when it comes to things about integrity - remember his gambling admission? The man is one of the few pure streamers on the platform.
EE was so ready to deny cheating, you can't really trust that he didn't cheat for the other questions.
yeah he's stained his whole career with this, you can't trust anything he's ever done anymore or anything he's going to do.
@@GLUFSAREN now thats just cap
@@kanaesimp4924 no. its the truth. people like you who dont care about what he did all that much will end up getting conned your whole life. then you will forgive the con artists and they will con you again.
@@Sevr-ln7kk this is crazy, chill out
@@Sevr-ln7kk for the record I’m not defending EE
Actually really good coverage and a really grounded, realistic, well said take. Appreciate your content, man.
Actually really good comment with a really colorful way of describing your take + spam bot in the comment as a cherry on top. ✨
What makes it better is that he isn't afraid to give an honest take on his own friend
@@MrMegakickass Dont think Lud was being completely honest my dude. Everyone knows EE cheated on the Jean Rousseau question. However EE still states that he only cheated on the math question, the only question with hard evidence he cheated. Lud says he believed him but he def knows he’s still lying but is trying to be political about the situation and not muddy the waters too much.
I don’t agree. I love Ludwig but one thing about Ludwig that have always annoyed me is he is always very biased towards his friends no matter what they do. It’s understandable and it just shows that he is a very loyal person but it makes his takes cringe sometimes
My brother in Christ, it is perfectly reasonable to not like somebody because they are an animal abuser
yeah I was totally nodding along until he started talking about alinity
Alinity isn't an animal abuser though?
For me the worst part was the phone call to his parents after the win. It’s one thing to cheat but then to brag to his mom about how he did it by himself and did it for them- it really rubs me the wrong way. It’s like doubling down on the lie by adding an emotional component to it- messed up.
He 100% cheated in that penis episode, I already knew it before this finale episode happened, even his viewers were joking that he cheated because they know he's too dumb to win these, it's obvious that he kept looking on his right monitor every time. Good video!
That shows you how much he cares about his friends if he is willing to hold on to part of his lie when he already confessed to the other part. At that point just fully confess to everything you cheated on.
I appreciate that you can lighten the air around some of these situations.
“Mia Malkova… idk i think shes an actress” good save Lud
i thought the same XD
i remember cheating on a test right in front of my teacher and when he confronted me i just kept copying his work
Gigachad lol
Imagine EE misspelling almost all of the answers but getting "Rousseau" right. That made me think that he cheated. >.
Also, I studied history in college and never in my life I saw someone call rousseau "Jean Rousseau". It's always just "Rousseau" or his entire name "Jean-Jacques Rousseau", or sometimes even just "Jacques Rousseau", but I never seen "Jean Rousseau". That also felt really strange... if he really knew the answer and really knew Rousseau I think he would definitely not right the way he did hahaha kinda like calling Harry Potter just by Harry James
@@cassiopiao1910 You are correct although I've never ever seen it written "Jacques Rousseau". His first name is Jean-Jacques. It's a single name. Only an American who's never heard of Rousseau would glance at the name and think "Jacques" must be a middle name. Like calling Lin-Manuel Miranda, Lin Miranda.
@@Krokrodyl Makes sense...now that I think about it I actually don't remember seeing "Jaques Rousseau" anywhere, you are right
He's only admitting to cheating on the Math question yeah? I feel like he's just got to be 100% transparent at this point. As for Schooled, just make the finale a live in-person show to make sure the winner of actual cash isn't cheating.
once a liar always a liar. sorry.
@@HehehexDD I agree
You def should’ve asked if EE wrote the actual answer with the penis on purpose though. Did he break the alliance for a win on purpose?
What, you think he just closed his eyes and magically drew a 1 and a 0?? How tf do you do that on “accident”??? Obviously that was on purpose and it was a bitchy move
Of course that was on purpose. I didnt even know there was debate about that
omg its carthus dojo on a mogul mail video, dbz fans and ludwig fans popping off rn
if you watched the whole vid, you would've gotten your answer
So EE is both a snake and a rat. That's not good for him, I even liked his part in that clip with Emily when she was saying some easily mistakeable things about who was a dark horse.
"Just admit it! You are cheating"
"Look into my eyes, do you seriously think I am cheating"
-Famous last words
I absolutely love this channel. Been watching your main RUclips for over a year, but this channel feels like it's just you shooting the sh*t with us telling us a story, whether personal or not personal, in an informal and entertaining way.
its incredibly obvious that he cheated on a lot of questions, its sad, if he owned up to it properly people might actually be able to look past it, but with that terrible apology, no shot he deserves to be forgiven with that.
Doubt
My solution is to just use different tricks to expose the cheaters. Like casually asking further questions about the topic they got right, you can ask the question 10 minutes later, when you're already on to different questions so that wikipedia is not right in front of them. You can also sneak a college level question in middle school level and see if anybody gets it right (mute everyone so they don't give the cheater a clue to just get that question wrong like everybody else)
one of the greatest things about schooled is how they invite a lot of not really mainstream streamers to mizkif audience. of course miz could have just invited people that he could trust not to cheat, but then there will probably be only mainstream streamers and miz's friend that plays.
I genuinely don’t think he could. 72 different people is a lot
Most the people who have cheated have been bigger streamers too anyway
@@MogulMail id say for every 10 theres probably one cheater in the crowd. sad that even friends of his and people he says work the hardest cheat as well. Thanks for saying how it is, I know it hurts extra for you since he's a long time smash commentator.
Gonna be honest, I literally thought that you were gonna talk about Penis Gang and how he betrayed all of us. But in the end, the advice is exactly eevisu should take away because that can definitely help him bounce back no matter how low
He's a repeated offender and his "apologies" just blame others. Unfortunately he has a LONG way to go.
@@Justins294 I get you dont like him, honestly I don't either, but this is your 15th comment about it. Go outside or something man.
@@Saeohhand here's another one. I'll enjoy my day off how I want, and you can keep reading my comments If you want 😊❤ sorry how I choose to spend my time bothers you. I'd hate for something so insignificant to bother me 🤣
@@Justins294 Yikes.
Gotta say for the Andrea one, they were told to put chat in emote mode, not turn it off, that was only like the 2nd episode or something. And she lost to Captain Puffy or something who just was googling shit or something.
I also think part of the problem with Miz is he constantly does this 'troll serious' thing, so no one ever truly takes him seriously.
Even with Mia she was so obviously cheating and he called it out a couple times and she was clearly jokingly responding and he just let it go...so it was like he's totally just joking and he's not serious at all.
Also very minor thing, I think the EE part with '128 - 44.55' I think that is 125 and he 'crossed' the 5 like to 'break' it like the .55 breaks the 5, it's a 4 now, minus 4 is zero. That's not exactly how that usually works, but I think that's what that is, a 5 with a strike through it, not actualyl an 8.
Not saying he didn't cheat, of course he did, but I think that's not a correct example
I’ve never cheated in college during the zoom era but theoretically if I did I would always make sure I wasn’t wearing my blue light blocking glasses.
"Theoretically" that is :)
I love how you say "during the zoom era" as though it was so long ago. I know the pandemic feels like it's lasted decades at this point, but college for me literally was decades ago
@@wildste the zoom era is ongoing.
Our entire society transferred to online school and work where it could, it’s definitely it’s own era, even if we are still in it.
It may be hard to grasp the impact of how much everything shifted since, as you said, it’s a different era than the one you went to school in :P
@@Camibug Oh yeah, I can't imagine what learning and testing is like for young people these days as it will be completely different to what I had.
It's just the way the OP wrote the comment suggested, to me at least, that the "era of zoom" happened and then ended.
Online classes and online testing has been a thing before covid you just noe noticed lol@@Camibug
Definitely think EE just needs to come clean fully, everybody knows he is still lying. He cheated on more than one question on the last show (probably every one) and he cheated on the first show that he was on. Yet he has denied this to try and make what he did not as bad. He has a history of cheating and clearly cares more about winning than integrity.
The fact that he only won because he cheated, then made a big scene celebrating, thanking his parents and calling his mom, is so weird. It felt so disrespectful, imo. Also I kinda feel like he did that to stop Mizkif from calling him out in the moment.
@@HeyLeFay nah the big question is why the fuck he admit to cheating. (Big question whilst watching this video that is"
Bro compared a cheater in a game show to cat abuser. That’s crazy
Ludwig acting like he doesnt know who Mia Malkova is is actually hilarious
He really should have googled "how to cheat inconspicuously" before actually cheating, because holy crap was he so bad at trying to hide it.
He's as smart as a bag of rocks. Crazy to me he has a fan base with how he acts in combination to the stupidity lol
he was so bad at hiding it that hardly anybody noticed Emily was also doing it
@@rumfordc wait wasn't there a rule that they should only chat specifically in emotes so that they can't give the answer in chat? Or was that just in Mizkif's stream chat? Or was she even streaming at that time?
14:28 I’m not joking as soon as he said “and I will say two more things” I heard “hi I’m Ryan Reynolds” from that one mint mobile ad 🤣🤣🤣
Hey Lud, as someone who is in college now and highschool last year, they don’t stop cheating, they just make the questions harder
Bro EE also cheated in yugioh in the scummiest way possible never forget
When was this?
what happened?
@@jordanlam1007 took two cards out of his opponents deck, called over a judge accusing his opponent for cheating saying he didn't have a full deck. Opponent gets disqualified because of this and then he steals the cards he took from the deck.
@@turbochoochoo jesus christ lmao, cheating in a children's card game, absolutely dispicable behaviour
@@turbochoochoo ayo lmmaooo nah bruh wild
8:47 he put a slash through the 5, something common when you subtract numbers is to cross one out to visualize the fact it’s been “cancelled out” in that row. 5 - 4.55 on its own is less than 1, so you WOULD put a 0 under the line there. a slash can also be used if you need to carry a one somewhere. no reason for the other markings on the right side of board though, the hyphens did not sell it lol.
but that is not an 8
I think i do have a solution for the cheating problem, but it might not be logistically possible:
Have all the streamers with their normal stream setup for the viewers, but make them join a second discord call with their phone only for miz's team that run the show. The phone camera is pointing from behind them, onto their screens, so nobody can cheat, the viewers are reassured, and the privacy of the streamers is kept, because their phone cams aren't displayed on stream.
But like i said, it is logistically a lot more work for all involved
"Streamers are lazy"
thats 5 times more work than to install software and even that is too much for some streamers
I'm pretty sure this is his last season since he's been dealing with this nonsense from the beginning
although a great idea, a lot of the streamers get on there phone after they get the answer locked in and cant change it. I also had an idea similar where Miz or his team just send each contestant a camera with the wires and a tripod to set up behind them to look at the screens. But the problem in that one is a lot of the streamers don't even know that they are going to be on the show until a few days before because a lot of people drop out at the last second because they have something else to do that is more important.
@@khda891 For 50k those streamers wouldn't be lazy, only the wealthy ones might skip the show but most of them would agree and do it.
Not being a simp, but Extra Emily is actually a great content creator, and it's sad she only gets a couple hundred viewers, because she does some silly stuff plus always has a smile on her face. Legitimately, if I'm having a bad day I go see if she's on. The other day she was reenacting Squid Game in English in real time while the show was playing off to the side. I saw her a couple months ago when she did the Mario 64 speedrun competition against Emiru, and Mizkif kept getting "angry" at how positive and happy she always was despite losing.
That’s not being a simp I love her streams she’s hilarious and fun to watch. I found her when Trihex raided her. She’s cool
Ngl when I saw the first sentence and saw that there was one reply I was ready for it to just say "Simp"
Why would that make you a simp? Just because she's a woman? Such a weird thing to say.
@@dickurkel6910 Not a weird thing to say. Literally every time I say I like a female that does something online I get called a simp. You probably have too. Even males. I could say that I like Sykkuno or CORPSE or anyone else in the twitch realm and people just say simp.
@@dickurkel6910 No need to be in denial of something so blatantly apparent in the Twitch community, for better or worse.
I cheated ONCE and I felt so bad, it wasn’t an important test but my classmates were so smart and I wanted to feel smart in comparison
It feels like Mizkif was the only one taking his show seriously
Fuslie was taking it pretty serious
There was at least some people though who at least followed the rules legitimately they didn't have to be tryhards just be fair
OMG GREATEST VIDEO IVE EVER SEEN (now I hit the play button)
Lmao maintain true engagement 🤣
it is pretty darn good video 😂
3:41 Ludwig pretending to not know who Mia Malkova is
That’s such a shame. I voted Emily since round one so I’m super proud that she won… just a huge shame her spotlight was outshined by EE. Especially on the final Schooled.
Super big shame.
Emily was looking at her chat too though lmao
It's so embarrassing to watch him celebrate. What a shame.
They should do an in person “summer school” redemption and put only past cheaters into it.
he didnt "own up", he only confessed because he got caught. imagine stealing 50k from a friend, its even worse than if it was a random guy you dont know.
atroic with the aboslute trash take laughing it off thinks its ok to steal 50k from a friend
I think it's so scummy to cheat when it effects someone. If you're cheating in your own test at school, you don't hurt anyone.
He almost scammed someone out of 50k. At least he admitted to it, but he still did it.
THE WIN WAS TARNISHED. HE ADMITTED TO CHEATING ON THE 1ST EPISODE. WHAT A POS
An irl Schooled would legitimately be the perfect way to end it, and having more contestants would definitely help add to the chaotic nature a real classroom has. Of course I think there should be a lot more added to it, you don’t want a person to fly out from another country only to have them leave or stop playing after 7 minutes. So I do hope it actually happens but the whole otk creative team is gonna have to think of a way to keep the creators happy and not bored from not knowing a 3rd grader question and getting out after 10 minutes. Overall would love to watch the continuation of schooled but due to cheating it kinda ruined the whole premise, and the introduction of 50k definitely allowed others to cheat even if they did feel bad, like I can guarantee almost all of the viewers would cheat to get 50k
He has trouble getting 8 people to show up online, you think its gonna be smooth sailing to get them to show up in person?
@@Cancer. streamers have had a lot of events with many people, and usually there will be one or two people fucking around, but it’s more controlled chaos than anything. It’s also not like one of those streamer events where they just fuck around and play dodge ball. They’re just answering questions
@@milk__teee yeah but they still have to go somewhere, streamers are lazy as shit, if these people won't show up online in a video call, what makes you think they'll fly out to texas to be on the show?
I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring and agree with you that while it might be difficult to coordinate, the IRL finale would be great! Picture all the Otk members standing around the "classroom" wearing suits and sunglasses making sure nobody is cheating. Lots of potential for a great event there.
i was thinking about schooled irl too after the first season. it would not only prevent cheating, but i think it would be so much more entertaining
Stealing $50k is a crime.
He did not own-up, he got caught. He took the win, phoned his Mom and was down the street around the corner.
He forgave himself in his "own-up" he dosen't say the word cheat. he says "surcomed to a little temptation"
The show is dead! being a streamer attracts extreme personalities, narcissists to the nicests people with no inbetween.
If anything the $50k finally proved this show cannot work. Ludwig is just trying to be a good guy here but he is peeing in our pockets and telling us it is raining.
The who wants to be a millionaire cheater Charles Ingram went to trial and was sentanced to 12 months with a massive fine.
Yeah, I agree. I get why Ludwig didn't want to completely throw his friend under the bus, but he probably should have just not weighed in since this is far from objective. I don't agree with cancelling everyone over every little thing, but stuff like the animal abuse with Alinity and trying to cheat someone out of 50k aren't minor things. They're basically the equivalent of serious crimes and the fact that they get away with barely apologizing with no negative consequences always rubs me the wrong way. Any of us would get in serious trouble for that stuff.
Well as a streamer, his reputation is tarnished and he probably won't get invited back to any OTK events again, and will just be less likely to get collabs at all in the future. Really not worth the $50k even if he did pocket the money, since his career just took a nosedive.
The game show itself is fine, the fact that people cheat just gives it more attention which is exactly what Mizkif wants. He's probably disappointed that it happened in the finals but moreso for the other contestant than for his own show, since she didn't get to celebrate her victory.
He never got the 50k lol
@@firewolf11567 If you catch a thief in the act dose he/she stop being a thief?
@@conormoloney4986 If the thief never had the money, was he ever a thief? A fraud, yes. Maybe you should consider why you want it to be a harsher issue than it was.
The last question did it for me for sure. I had the right idea of Ross something of other but the fact he knew the Jean part was bizzare. I have done quiz bowl for years so I have seen some really knowledgeable high schoolers and no one, myself included, ever thinks about first names unless it is something they are really passionate about. There is no way EE is this passionate about enlightenment thinkers to remember a first name as generic as Jean.
Especially if he doesn't know how long it takes to travel 80miles at 80mph lmao
tbh I remember that full name cause I had to keep memorizing it my whole freshman year
@@zigzag9197 but the full name is jean-jacques writing Jean Rousseau is just wrong and would feel wrong to anyone with the answer. If you write Jean something Rousseau because you are like i know it's a composed name that is fine but just Jean Rousseau is weird.
That calculation EE did just hits different, it hurts my brain so much just looking at it.
Another streamer trying to scam a gameshow. That gameshow is such a mess, imagine trusting streamers not to cheat.
Imagine caring lmaooo
facts
Rich streamers stealing pocket money from other rich streamers
hi warframe guy
@@thatonebourson yes because 50k is pocket money
Watching EE cheat was so frustrating, he stole the winning moment from Emily, shes an upcoming streamer and its fucked up.
she was looking at her 2nd monitor too though 😂
@@rumfordc IDK what your seeing, I'm pretty sure all the "Reddit detectives" looked at every single person. If she was cheating, theyd be on her ass too.
And if she did cheat then she still deserves it as this was a trial of smarts and EE not only failed the test but was ass at hiding his cheating LOL
@@devonwilliams2423 yea there are people on reddit calling her out too, and even in twitch live as it was happening people were pointing out "both sus" but there is only room for so much drama at once.
At least he admitted to it in the end. Over the years I have learned to forgive and forget. It's sad he disappointed his parents by cheating. But parents are the most forgiven of us all. In my college medical terminology class the teacher used the same tests every single semester and my friend had stolen all the answers and copied them the semester before. So when we became overwhelmed by Anatomy & Physiology 2 class work plus the lab we would just memorize the test for medical terminology. (A,B,A,A,A,C,D, ETC) So yeah, I still had to take the final and passed it with an A. But always felt bad about that. I did tell my Mom. She passed away recently though. I miss her a lot.
He only admitted to it because of decisive evidence. And he's then been caught probably cheating for other questions when he claimed he wasn't cheating.
Luds a good dude for accepting his answer, but I'm sure everyone would be pretty skeptical at this point.
Just because he said he accepts it in a video doesnt mean he truly believed it
of what you act like he robbed a bank or stole a kids bike lmao
@@neonberry4427 It's worse that EE stole directly from Miz and Emily than if EE stole from a bank, if that's what you're getting at
Lud working hard to pump out quality content, I appreciate it!
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He literally just sat down, filmed this in a single take, and sent it off to his editor.
@@whiitehead This could also be a possibility and I find it hilarious that it is a possibility LOL
@@zachdiaziii9747 in his video last night he said “you’re watching this unedited video instead of Netflix”.
Still, unedited, sent to an editor, edited himself, it takes mental planning to research and make a video like this. He’s definitely putting work in and playing with the algorithm.
The common thread I always see in these situations is that when outright caught, people will only admit to as little of the wrongdoing as they can. It’s never just “A friend saw me struggling and sent me the answer to the math question.” If someone fesses up to just the part that they can no longer deny, that’s not remorse that’s damage control. It’s always more without fail.
Oh. I didn’t notice this was a year old and that what I said was already proven true a year ago. Haha jesus.
It really sucks to see that EE did that. I love the guy, was really holding out hope that he didn’t cheat. At least it was made right at the end and Emily got the win she deserved
Emily was looking at her other monitor too, its 3rd place who deserved the win AFAIK
I really like Schooled. I enjoyed it by watching the vods and play along with them. But if the episodes have cheating, it destroys the fun and spoil the ep for me. Disappointed that it ended that way and probably Miz will not make another season of it.
It would be cool if he did 1-off episodes IRL with people. He could probably schedule them around TwitchCon/shitcon/shitcamp pretty easily, IRL is the only true way to make sure people will not cheat. Miz could also just try to only invite trustworthy people (Jerma, Northernlion, etc.), but honestly idk if he could get 8 weeks worth of trustworthy streamers lol.
In the second bit of evidence (the whiteboard), the part that says 128 is actually a 125 with a slash through it to indicate the reduction you do with subtraction.
That being said he didn't put the slash in the 2 or the 1, so it is a little weird.
I see what ludwigs doing with this channel is and I’m glad someone so level headed is making these videos