It even makes that horrible clonky spacebar sound better, I don't know why some people's spacebars sound so awful on stock boards and others sound decent but the first typing test with black was awful.
Great seeing you Hamaji! I was so skeptical about the PE foam until I did it... what kind of voodoo magic is this? Lol. Thanks for stopping by to check out some keyboard mutilation lol
I did the 2nd mod and while it sounded amazing, I realized a few keys weren't registering every keypress, I pulled my switches and used some tweezers to take the pin openings and create slightly larger holes closer to the size of the ones created by the plastic pegs and now have absolutely no issues. I think if the metal pegs of the switches are touching the foam it can potentially cause an issue, but just my experience. Just wanted to share in case anyone had a similar occurrence. Thanks for the video, so glad I saved that PE foam bag my board came in.
Nice mod! I did something similar. Removed extra gaskets, applied more of the Glorious gaskets, put 007 orings I had under the screw to raise 1-2 mm of height, and now it's bouncy enough for me :)
Honestly: The more I see of this so called "hobby" the more idiotic it seems. Not only does this community seem to think of things that would have been a quality issue 10 years ago as a feature, their reasoning for rating certain things are just batshot crazy for any normal person. On top of that they are paying ungodly amounts of money for shit that they only heard was great but never compared.... It's a weird thing. The intro of this video seems like a perfect parody of this hobby.
i just modded my gmmk pro(alu plate w/alpacas L+F) less than 30 mins ago. still kinda hesitant to saw off the curved/bent part of the plate that connects to the pcb. hotswap sockets on my gmmk pro seem loose. not as tight as the one on my kbd67 lite r3 or nk65 ee(which, by the way, i followed your stage 3 mod, i love it). even if the hotswap sockets aren't a snug fit, i dont have any non-responsive switch issue. didn't have enough of kbdfans gaskets left, still waiting on my order. i doubled up the gasket w/ what my board came with, it still feels stiffer than that of kbdfans. i followed everything you did except for the sawing parts and swapping out the gaskets. i love your videos man. your actually one of the reviewers/modders i listen to and agrre with a lot of things you do/say. keeb it up!
Thank you man, I wish I knew about D65 gaskets sooner. I used most of the ideas from the flex mod with the Polycarb plate and it is great I really can feel the bounce when typing. I used your stage 3 mod on nk655 also, you really are gifted at this. Keep making these videos and I will keep trying out your mods making keyboards as good as they can be.
Great video. I love this keyboard for what it is. I don’t think I could bring myself to do these mods. But, it’s still nice to see how much the community expands on this boards just to make them as good or even better than some higher end boards.
the standoffs btw, do not change the flex at all, if you notice they are screwed at the plate, and just inserted into the pcb, means when you flex the pcb in to the keyboard, the standofs would just sort of move out of the pcb, those standoffs are for when you remove the switches to not bend the plate outwards
Personally I bought this keyboard knowing I would be modding it. Never had a custom mech before but the gmmk pro seemed like an easy way to get into the whole hobby. Pretty cool how you can change how this board feels and sounds with some easy trick (like the pe foam)
Free 5Head tip: If you want to do the flexible mod but dont have thicker gasket strips just open your GMMK Pro box and use the layer of foam inside the packaging. The foam is about 1.5mm thick and is very close to what was used in this video in terms of thickness and density. just cut the foam into strips of the right size! source: my brain
Interesting modifications. I'll have to look into them. All I did was put a 2 more layers of the stock gaskets in actually the same locations you put them, replaced the case foam with a layer of thinsulate, and then screwed the case just tight enough to close, but maintain about that same 1mm space. Plenty of flex, but polycarb plate. I'm curious about the sound mod, but I built this thing with silent switches as an office board, so I prioritized feel for my mods. Might try that foam layer in other boards, like my daily driver at home.
I did the same sound mod to a portico, and it's crazy the effect it has. The mod is essentially free too since you usually have that foam laying around from older boards
oml sounds so much better. Great video. I kinda wish glorious would’ve made it top mount instead. It probably would’ve sounded much better stock and it would’ve left room to potentially gummy worm o ring mod it as well. Speaking of that, I’ve seen a couple of videos of people modding their Tofus to make them a gummy worm mount so that they can achieve a similar sound signature as the unikorn. I just thought I’d share this idea with you since you are truly amazing at modding :)
Sound mod typing test had music still playing over it. Editing blip at 10:50. Love your channel and all your work. Keep it up! Also the joke at 6:45 killed me.
two things here, the foam is called poron - the other thing is, if you already use a saw why not remove the tabs completely, get 8mm poron foam sheet or eva etc., put it where you put the case foam and press fit the plate between the parts. don’t forget to also put a thin layer on the top somewhere
Nice videos. After such a long wait, I finally received my long awaited SA Oblivion V2 kits to remix my original SA Oblivion set along with my SA Mizu full keyset, KAT GB deskmat design, and Artisan keycaps. I also had the SA Penumbra, Dangerzone, and Carbon full sets on rotation on one Pok3r LE right now since my other 3 boards have newer (newer to my family) sets on them right now. My keyboard addiction returned at the right time and you have a new sub.
Thank you so much for this, did the sound verision and im so happy with the result! For sure worth it since it as you said comes with the keyboard so everyone has it available.
This worked well! Made the PE Foam mod and swapped to D65 gaskets not only on the bottom also on the top. Lubed Stabz with 205g0 (housing/ stem) and xht-bdz (wire) but was not happy so I changed to Holee Mod with 205g0. Now it sounds really nice and thockie (PC Plate + Alpaca v2 lubed/ filmed) I have a Jelly Epoch so it is very hard for the board to compete but I think you can not get more out of the GMMK Pro.
idk if I would attempt the flex mount mod... but holy mackerel! that pe foam is so simple and makes a huge difference. will definitely be doing this! I suppose one side effect is that the under key lighting is both more muted and more diffused?
glad i watch this before i start modding my GMMK pro (now using all stock.. yes... even the stock unmooded stabs that are SOOOO STICKY) feel like I can somewhat mix and match both the mods and see how the gpanda will feel and sound
Glad the video was helpful! If you could, upgrading the stabs to a c3 equalz one is the easiest way to go. The durock v2 are great but you have to file down the plate to make it fit.
I'm just gonna stick with stock once I get mine. I got the shipping notification today so it should pop up next week! Great video! Gave me some ideas to play around with. Very curious to compare the stock gaskets with something else.
:) I didn't believe the hype at first... thought it was crazy talk. Then it blew my mind... lol. I've been looking for ESD PE foam bags... so hard to find something that thin and ESD... hopefully I can find one soon and share it with others!
Tried the PE foam mod, and holy shit it sounds sooooooooo good. Wanted to make sure to mention that I tried it in case others are on the board about it.
Hey Scott, fantastic video as always!! Forgive me for doing this one little correction, I don't like to do offensive nitpicking but I thought it might be good for you to know: The infamous Jelly board is pronounced the Jelly "Eeee-pock"(this is how Epoch is pronounced). Also, just another heads-up, there is an abrupt audio cutoff at 10:50 😂 Please, I do NOT intend or mean for this comment to come off as nitpick or offensive in any way, but if it happens to come off that way, I'm really sorry and feel free to remove this comment. Thank you for the dedication to your detailed and well thought-out content every time, Scott!
Watching you break down the design of the gmmk pro makes it obvious that glorious didn't do any product testing with external users. IIRC their mice also launched with numerous complaints. Oh, and their panda switches. You would think they would learn.
@@Keybored Yea, I agree. A lot of people still like it though. They need to at least fix the sluggish stabs. Anyway, great video! It's always interesting to see you come up with non conventional ways to improve keyboards. Recently decided to try your o-ring mod.
Glorious Pandas (that went through my own exhaustive quality control and lubing process) with the foam sandwich mod, durock v2s, aluminum plate and GLube, it's all I needed to make this keyboard sound and feel like a 1000$ one... Thanks for the video. Btw in latest plates (brass and pc included) any aftermarket stabs will work out of the box, I didnt have to sand or mod anything to fit the durock v2s!
Hey friend 👋 you should go to green door geek and get the POM GMMK pro plate or order one of the FR4 plates in sure they are good too! And maybe if you want a really nice sounding GMMK pro that’s a little more thocc put some ink black v2s in there!! I saved my GMMK pro, cuz I hated it and really didn’t like their switches…. Plus the board was so stiff. But putting the Pom plate with flex cuts as well as the inks make for a really really enjoyable typing experience! I actually put it back into rotation on my main PC over some of my other favorite boards atm… I actually used the case foam and the plate foam provided from Glorious and I did end up taping the back of the PCB just cuz it always helps the sound a bit
BOOM 💥 Scott, I don’t know how you figure this out but you are a magician. You seriously should be engineering keyboards for Key Cult or Bauer or doing QAQC. I literally just purchased a second GMMK PRO specifically to make into anlinear build based on your first video. There is a guy that sells FR4 plates for it, which I also bought.
Hi strykr360! Thank you for that sentiment! There is a vendor in Canada called hypekeyboards that does make some nice FR4 plates! They even have an FR4 with flex cuts for many stiffer gasket mount keyboards, like the D65 and so on.
@@Keybored When I bought my D65 from KBD fans, I sprang for the FR4 option, but i have to say that the plate was freaking really tight. I used lavender switches on that build, and its probably one of my favorite switches, but it would take an act of congress to get those keys out of that plate in tact. I had a few that were installed with bent pins, and when I tried to pull them out, they were mangled.
Wth? The sound mod is so minimal, but the impact is... well pretty damn crazy to be completely honest. With such a minimal mod having this impact on the sound I can imagine myself saving up for one of these now.
Thanks for mentioning the pe foam mod. I actually used it along with the fr4 plate float mount system by avx and stupid fish, then added the pe foam and got most of the flex benefits and it sounds great!
Nice, I'm in the process of putting together the same build! Did you run into any issues with some switches not actuating in some sockets with the PE foam installed? Not sure what's causing this problem and I'm at a loss.
@@Ghoulius Yea i had that problem, make sure you punch out the holes for the middle pole manually for the switches that have problems. that little bit of extra gap sometimes causes it to not register. And if that fails try reseating the switch entirely. Update me if you need anymore help!
Only problem with the PE Foam mod is that it can come with static risks to the PCB :/ the one in the Jelly Epoch is ESD PE foam to prevent that risk. Believe the Reddit post explaining the PE foam mod has a comment that mentions this
@@Keybored actually i tried to fit orings to the case screws but they just would not go in at all. What I ended up doing is glueing some o-rings on the bottom case where was suppose to meet the upper case. there is still some space beside the o-ring, so I put a 6mm thick poron there to support the pcb for some extra flex (like what you did, I removed the middle foam and also those 4 tiny ones of the side). combiend with pc plate, they actually end up pretty flexible. I'm definitely trying out taking off all the screws between pcb and the plate since the pc plate is causing the pcb to bend a lot. Nice video and wonderful ideas!
those GMMK pro mods sound so good! I just bought a GMMK in silver and plan on doing your sound mod with some black inks, polycarb plate and modded "GOAT" stabs. I was wondering if there were some alternatives to buying a silicone sheet to have the even and consistent results for spacing the keyboard case. Ideally something that could be found in a home would be wonderful.
@@Keybored i can attest to that. lol. just actually modded by gmmk pro 15 mins ago. cut up some o-rings i got for free from a purchase tecsee carrots off of amazon a few months ago. 3mm diameter and 1mm thickness. superglued them to the underside of the top frame. also had to file the part of the plate where the stabs go through to use durock v2 stabs.
I know this is an old video, but I'd be interested to see how it sounds with the silicone replacing the bottom case foam instead of that thin white sheet.
Hi Scott, great video as always. I'm also about to do the PE foam mod for a RUclips video. I've read that there is concern with this kind of foam and ESD or electrostatic discharge. I don't know what kind of engineering degree you have but maybe you can shed some more light on this (my degree is Computer Engineering but I still don't know lol)? I've already ordered some anti-static PE foam and I've read that the PE foam in the Jelly Epoch also has some kind of ESD protection. I've read reports of issues such as switches failing to respond or double inputting, as well as one person having their side lights turn off after plugging in some speakers. I'm not sure if these could be traced back to ESD.
Hi Caloy! I have an aerospace engineering degree lol. I guess it doesn't help either of us with esd. I haven't had issues with the gmmk pro so far, but I have been looking for esd pe bags to substitute it out for. It's been a bit challenging to find one so thin, but I know they are out there! Probably need to get an electrical engineer up in here... How many engineers do we need to figure out esd lol. But I did hear that the gmmk pro has esd protected pcb so I hope that helps out.
@@Keybored Gotcha. Thanks for the response! I guess I'll just have to try it out hehe. Keep up the good work. Yours is my favorite keyboard channel on RUclips.
Haha... I think it's magic. I feel the pe foam being as bouncy as it is, helps to take the force of the switch bottom out and reflect it back up through the switch housing. The plate then takes it and amps it up, and the switch and keycaps do the same... Then you get magic
I’m not sure I understand this whole premise. Criticizing the lack of Audible feedback due to the rigidity seems silly to me. If you are chasing audible feed back, why not use Box Jades or Box pinks?? Also if you want more springiness perhaps invest in different heavier switches. For my GMMK Pro I actually put a ton of flex tape on the back and betwee. The plates because I wanted to make it more rigid by removing as much space to flex as possible, while still having some give. This way you get to enjoy the feeling of the switches you are using, and adjust your preferences from there rather than trying to make all sorts of micro adjustments inside…
Unfortunately no... Since the flex one cuts off all the tabs, it doesn't apply enough pressure to keep everything together and the hot swap sockets don't work :(
@@Keybored No worries. I'm actually waiting on my FR4 plate from AVXworks to pair with the sound mod in search of the most silent GMMK PRO. Considering the plate already has flex cuts, it should flex a bit even without removing some of the gaskets. And yes, I am using Stupidfish foams.
Lowkey want to see what’s you mod approach to other top mounted keyboard other than the nk65 video you made, this series of no return keyboard modding has been oddly interesting although I’m most likely not going to do it to my keyboard
Was lowkey hoping that you would show a hybrid of the flex mod and the sound mod, but a great video nonetheless! Just curious, did you try the sound mod on other types of plates?
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0:26 don't you dare
good evening glarses
What if I lubed them up extra slick, legs and all? Haha, good seeing you here Glarses. Can't wait to see what you do with Gloggles!
Wondering if glarses would rather use a membrane keyboard or silent gateron browns, over lubed with 205g0?
@@penguinkraftz3329 most likely membrane, like one of those really premium ones or something
Finally GMMK PRO mod! Crazy how adding that thin layer opens up the sound so much!
Yup! It is long overdue!
damn the sound becomes much better and might be comparable to some of the budget or more premium top mount board
It even makes that horrible clonky spacebar sound better, I don't know why some people's spacebars sound so awful on stock boards and others sound decent but the first typing test with black was awful.
@@Keybored For sound mod, do you think the thin layer of white foam + PC (instead of brass plate) would yield any results? Thanks in adv!
@@patrickp4936 I did this with my gmmk pro and it made my kb thocc more
BRASS PLATE WITH THE FOAM OKAY I SEE U 👀
Hi hamaji. Can you make a review on the Akko cs switches?
Great seeing you Hamaji! I was so skeptical about the PE foam until I did it... what kind of voodoo magic is this? Lol. Thanks for stopping by to check out some keyboard mutilation lol
So unfortunate your PC broke right as you were about to upload a vid hopefully it'll get fixed soon !
I did the 2nd mod and while it sounded amazing, I realized a few keys weren't registering every keypress, I pulled my switches and used some tweezers to take the pin openings and create slightly larger holes closer to the size of the ones created by the plastic pegs and now have absolutely no issues. I think if the metal pegs of the switches are touching the foam it can potentially cause an issue, but just my experience. Just wanted to share in case anyone had a similar occurrence. Thanks for the video, so glad I saved that PE foam bag my board came in.
Oooh that is a great point you bring up! I wonder after the initial press-in, we should remove then poke them larger
Thanks, you save me time troubleshooting this. Had the same issue on a different keyboard.
"Now I know why Glarses loves them so much"
Dead man walking right there
Lol. I was thinking of sending him a bag of browns to the address he provided
@@Keybored Please do that.
@@Keybored please you need to do that
@@Keybored PLEASE
@@Keybored DO IT
Nice mod! I did something similar. Removed extra gaskets, applied more of the Glorious gaskets, put 007 orings I had under the screw to raise 1-2 mm of height, and now it's bouncy enough for me :)
Great to hear people taking the matter into their own hands!
This is exactly the kind of stuff that drew me to the hobby. I love what people come up with on the tinkering aspect of it. Great work.
Thank you Aldarris! I hope the video was helpful!
Honestly:
The more I see of this so called "hobby" the more idiotic it seems.
Not only does this community seem to think of things that would have been a quality issue 10 years ago as a feature, their reasoning for rating certain things are just batshot crazy for any normal person.
On top of that they are paying ungodly amounts of money for shit that they only heard was great but never compared....
It's a weird thing.
The intro of this video seems like a perfect parody of this hobby.
14:07 WOW that sounds AMAZING!! Super deep a full sound. Nice vid.
Thabk you Chris! I was surprised myself!
@@Keybored do you think this will improve a cheap plastik case as well?
i just modded my gmmk pro(alu plate w/alpacas L+F) less than 30 mins ago. still kinda hesitant to saw off the curved/bent part of the plate that connects to the pcb. hotswap sockets on my gmmk pro seem loose. not as tight as the one on my kbd67 lite r3 or nk65 ee(which, by the way, i followed your stage 3 mod, i love it). even if the hotswap sockets aren't a snug fit, i dont have any non-responsive switch issue. didn't have enough of kbdfans gaskets left, still waiting on my order. i doubled up the gasket w/ what my board came with, it still feels stiffer than that of kbdfans. i followed everything you did except for the sawing parts and swapping out the gaskets. i love your videos man. your actually one of the reviewers/modders i listen to and agrre with a lot of things you do/say. keeb it up!
Thank you man, I wish I knew about D65 gaskets sooner. I used most of the ideas from the flex mod with the Polycarb plate and it is great I really can feel the bounce when typing. I used your stage 3 mod on nk655 also, you really are gifted at this. Keep making these videos and I will keep trying out your mods making keyboards as good as they can be.
Thabk you so much Eric! I'll keep thinking about ways to improve these keyboards!
i did the sound mod and OMG it sounds soooo much better! thank you so much for making this video
good timing on this video because the GMMK Pro went in stock available a few days ago
Yup! I tried to time it with the full launch!
I love the mods you do, they're all different from what I see on other channels.
Thank you Ali! I guess I took things to a point of no return lol
Ali the holy bastard !
@@VENOM-kb8pu huh?
@@amizan8653 You don't remember me ya wanker 🤣aliii
@@VENOM-kb8pu you sure you got the right Ali?
Great video. I love this keyboard for what it is. I don’t think I could bring myself to do these mods. But, it’s still nice to see how much the community expands on this boards just to make them as good or even better than some higher end boards.
:) The great thing about this hobby and the community!
10:50 and we'll be calling- didnt finish sentance
Yeah... looks like I overlapped the next audio track over it... sucks
well it's black....
the standoffs btw, do not change the flex at all, if you notice they are screwed at the plate, and just inserted into the pcb, means when you flex the pcb in to the keyboard, the standofs would just sort of move out of the pcb, those standoffs are for when you remove the switches to not bend the plate outwards
Personally I bought this keyboard knowing I would be modding it. Never had a custom mech before but the gmmk pro seemed like an easy way to get into the whole hobby. Pretty cool how you can change how this board feels and sounds with some easy trick (like the pe foam)
:) welcome to the hobby! Don't get sucked in too deep!
removed plate foam on mine, added pe foam instead then tempest mod. best sounding combination for me so far! Love this
:) so many different combinations are possible :)
The PE foam mod is honestly mind blowing, thanks for sharing this with us. Hoping to do something like that with a Tofu60.
You're very welcome!
Amazing! Was waiting for this vid. Just in time, my gmmk pro just shipped! Great mods as always, sound mod definitely surprised me.
Super surprising! I didn't think in a million years that I would say gmmk pro and sounds good in one sentence
Actually perfect timing I was just considering picking one of these up
:) Hope it's helpful!
Free 5Head tip:
If you want to do the flexible mod but dont have thicker gasket strips just open your GMMK Pro box and use the layer of foam inside the packaging. The foam is about 1.5mm thick and is very close to what was used in this video in terms of thickness and density. just cut the foam into strips of the right size!
source: my brain
keybored's engeneering degree really helps him come up with these new mods... trying the PE foam on my Tofu!
Haha, probably using the degree for all the wrong reasons
Interesting modifications. I'll have to look into them. All I did was put a 2 more layers of the stock gaskets in actually the same locations you put them, replaced the case foam with a layer of thinsulate, and then screwed the case just tight enough to close, but maintain about that same 1mm space. Plenty of flex, but polycarb plate. I'm curious about the sound mod, but I built this thing with silent switches as an office board, so I prioritized feel for my mods. Might try that foam layer in other boards, like my daily driver at home.
:) Glad it worked out! Many ways to skin a cat!
That silver GMMK pro’s spacebar sounds like a wooden button from mc 😂
:) the flex did improve dramatically with that one
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING IT CAME WITH PE FOAM ALREADY I didnt know you saved me 20$ from ordering from amazon ty ty
I just got the board and did the modding foam sandwhich and result is amazing ! Thank you so much
You're welcome!
Thank you very much, the pe foam made my gmmk pro sound so much better.
I did the same sound mod to a portico, and it's crazy the effect it has. The mod is essentially free too since you usually have that foam laying around from older boards
Lol same! I started to put it into everything to see how it changes!
Tried the sound mod on my gmmk pro and it sounds pretty nice. It makes the board have a louder and deeper tone. Great vid!
Thanks Sai! Glad it worked out for you!
perfect timing, wanted to cop this board
Glad it could be of help!
oml sounds so much better. Great video. I kinda wish glorious would’ve made it top mount instead. It probably would’ve sounded much better stock and it would’ve left room to potentially gummy worm o ring mod it as well. Speaking of that, I’ve seen a couple of videos of people modding their Tofus to make them a gummy worm mount so that they can achieve a similar sound signature as the unikorn. I just thought I’d share this idea with you since you are truly amazing at modding :)
Thank you so much Keagan! I love the gummy worm mod! Makes it sound great and feel nice! Like the Bakeneko!
that flex cut....absolutely mad man
love your work!
Thank you so much!
Sound mod typing test had music still playing over it. Editing blip at 10:50.
Love your channel and all your work. Keep it up!
Also the joke at 6:45 killed me.
Yeah... Late night editing slip ups I guess... Need to pay more attention next time. Thank you for enjoying the humor!
two things here, the foam is called poron - the other thing is, if you already use a saw why not remove the tabs completely, get 8mm poron foam sheet or eva etc., put it where you put the case foam and press fit the plate between the parts. don’t forget to also put a thin layer on the top somewhere
Hmmm... that is a very interesting proposal! Essentially, make a KBD67 Lite lol. Will have to think about that one
@@Keybored essentially a cheap mode board :P
Nice videos. After such a long wait, I finally received my long awaited SA Oblivion V2 kits to remix my original SA Oblivion set along with my SA Mizu full keyset, KAT GB deskmat design, and Artisan keycaps. I also had the SA Penumbra, Dangerzone, and Carbon full sets on rotation on one Pok3r LE right now since my other 3 boards have newer (newer to my family) sets on them right now. My keyboard addiction returned at the right time and you have a new sub.
Thank you so much for the sub and welcome to the community! Hope you don't fall too deep into the rabbit hole!
Thank you so much for this, did the sound verision and im so happy with the result! For sure worth it since it as you said comes with the keyboard so everyone has it available.
Great tip on the flex cuts! I used a Dremel tool and was able to get much cleaner cuts!
This worked well! Made the PE Foam mod and swapped to D65 gaskets not only on the bottom also on the top.
Lubed Stabz with 205g0 (housing/ stem) and xht-bdz (wire) but was not happy so I changed to Holee Mod with 205g0. Now it sounds really nice and thockie (PC Plate + Alpaca v2 lubed/ filmed)
I have a Jelly Epoch so it is very hard for the board to compete but I think you can not get more out of the GMMK Pro.
Yup! It's never going to be a jelly epoch at the end of the day, but does improve quite a bit!
Great video. I will be doing the second mod. Awesome!
Always good to see a new Keybored vid poppin up on my feed. My man is out here making all sorts of keyboards sound amazing.
:) Thank you ROmo! I appreciate that and hope the content is helpful or entertaining or both lol
Right on time! I will be receiving my GMMK Pro tomorrow :) Will 100% be doing the PE Foam mod. Thank you so much!!!!
Glad it was helpful Gyuki!
@@Keybored looking forward to more content like this 👍👍 keep it up man.
I already did the build just now and the PE foam mod is magic
Truly magical right? Doesn't make any sense...
@@Keybored yes I don't know gmmk pro can sound so good just with this simple mod. I sold my ikki68GB slot for this and it's worth it with this mod
Dude this worked! My GMMK pro sounds are significantly louder/deeper! Thanks!!!!
Glad it worked out San!
idk if I would attempt the flex mount mod... but holy mackerel! that pe foam is so simple and makes a huge difference. will definitely be doing this!
I suppose one side effect is that the under key lighting is both more muted and more diffused?
if you wanted you could technically cut small squares for where the leds are but I don'tt think that anyone wants to do that lol
It was so surprising! A thin sheet can do something like that? Lol. But you are correct, it may diffuse the lighting a bit
@noah - that's a good point! I personally like a muted light profile so I wouldn't but really good to have as an option
glad i watch this before i start modding my GMMK pro (now using all stock.. yes... even the stock unmooded stabs that are SOOOO STICKY) feel like I can somewhat mix and match both the mods and see how the gpanda will feel and sound
Glad the video was helpful! If you could, upgrading the stabs to a c3 equalz one is the easiest way to go. The durock v2 are great but you have to file down the plate to make it fit.
@@Keybored I'm gonna attempt to holee or epsi mod the goat stabs and see how they do
I'm just gonna stick with stock once I get mine. I got the shipping notification today so it should pop up next week!
Great video! Gave me some ideas to play around with. Very curious to compare the stock gaskets with something else.
Yup! Check out some thicker gaskets! It really does help with the bottom out
Wow I like the second mod. It sounds amazing.
It was surprising lol
Loving all the PE Foam mod hype! Will have to try with a tofu65 first to make sure it has no harm in terms of ESD. Great video :)
:) I didn't believe the hype at first... thought it was crazy talk. Then it blew my mind... lol. I've been looking for ESD PE foam bags... so hard to find something that thin and ESD... hopefully I can find one soon and share it with others!
I preferred the dampened sound. Great job!
PE foam mod is the single greatest and easiest mod you can do, I'm glad you covered it in this video
:) the results are surprising!
Tried the PE foam mod, and holy shit it sounds sooooooooo good. Wanted to make sure to mention that I tried it in case others are on the board about it.
Thanks for confirming! Glad it worked out well for you too!
Hey Scott, fantastic video as always!!
Forgive me for doing this one little correction, I don't like to do offensive nitpicking but I thought it might be good for you to know: The infamous Jelly board is pronounced the Jelly "Eeee-pock"(this is how Epoch is pronounced).
Also, just another heads-up, there is an abrupt audio cutoff at 10:50 😂
Please, I do NOT intend or mean for this comment to come off as nitpick or offensive in any way, but if it happens to come off that way, I'm really sorry and feel free to remove this comment.
Thank you for the dedication to your detailed and well thought-out content every time, Scott!
No offense taken! It was a long night of editing, and I think I cut things off a bit too much... sorry!
Watching you break down the design of the gmmk pro makes it obvious that glorious didn't do any product testing with external users.
IIRC their mice also launched with numerous complaints. Oh, and their panda switches. You would think they would learn.
It's a shame... It just needed a bit of refinement and it would have been great
@@Keybored Yea, I agree. A lot of people still like it though. They need to at least fix the sluggish stabs.
Anyway, great video! It's always interesting to see you come up with non conventional ways to improve keyboards. Recently decided to try your o-ring mod.
The black one sounds soooo good. Best GMMK Pro I've heard so far. Great video
:) thank you!
uuuhhhhh i like the black one, the first one sound still pretty hollow to me, nice mod btw👏🏻👊🏻
:) Yup the black one is my favorite!
Glorious Pandas (that went through my own exhaustive quality control and lubing process) with the foam sandwich mod, durock v2s, aluminum plate and GLube, it's all I needed to make this keyboard sound and feel like a 1000$ one...
Thanks for the video.
Btw in latest plates (brass and pc included) any aftermarket stabs will work out of the box, I didnt have to sand or mod anything to fit the durock v2s!
That's great to hear! I'm glad that Glorious is starting to make small updates!
Hey friend 👋 you should go to green door geek and get the POM GMMK pro plate or order one of the FR4 plates in sure they are good too! And maybe if you want a really nice sounding GMMK pro that’s a little more thocc put some ink black v2s in there!!
I saved my GMMK pro, cuz I hated it and really didn’t like their switches…. Plus the board was so stiff. But putting the Pom plate with flex cuts as well as the inks make for a really really enjoyable typing experience! I actually put it back into rotation on my main PC over some of my other favorite boards atm…
I actually used the case foam and the plate foam provided from Glorious and I did end up taping the back of the PCB just cuz it always helps the sound a bit
Thank you for the suggestion! I ended up upgrading the plate to a hype keyboard FR4 plate and it did help with the flex as well!
keybored has truly cracked the code here for the GMMK Pro
Thank you P3rsonaz! I appreciate it!
Thanks bro I learned a lot. Sounds great!
Thank you! I hope it was helpful!
That final sound mod is like butter
:) Thank you! It does sound so much nicer than stock for sure!
BOOM 💥
Scott, I don’t know how you figure this out but you are a magician. You seriously should be engineering keyboards for Key Cult or Bauer or doing QAQC. I literally just purchased a second GMMK PRO specifically to make into anlinear build based on your first video. There is a guy that sells FR4 plates for it, which I also bought.
Hi strykr360! Thank you for that sentiment! There is a vendor in Canada called hypekeyboards that does make some nice FR4 plates! They even have an FR4 with flex cuts for many stiffer gasket mount keyboards, like the D65 and so on.
@@Keybored When I bought my D65 from KBD fans, I sprang for the FR4 option, but i have to say that the plate was freaking really tight. I used lavender switches on that build, and its probably one of my favorite switches, but it would take an act of congress to get those keys out of that plate in tact. I had a few that were installed with bent pins, and when I tried to pull them out, they were mangled.
Just tried this foam mod. It’s incredible! Thanks!
:) glad it turned out well,
Bought one Lite case and purchasing some awesome isolated flux cut PCB to put into it
Wow i did the foam mod to my gmmk pro sound good i mean after i watched your video. Thanks bro
It is a game changer! Should have came like this from the factory!
Wth? The sound mod is so minimal, but the impact is... well pretty damn crazy to be completely honest. With such a minimal mod having this impact on the sound I can imagine myself saving up for one of these now.
I know right? I thought the GMMK pro was a lost cause until this mod!
great vid! im gunna try the second method w those durock poms
Durock poms are one of my favorite linears right now... Love the smooth clack they deliver...
Thanks for mentioning the pe foam mod. I actually used it along with the fr4 plate float mount system by avx and stupid fish, then added the pe foam and got most of the flex benefits and it sounds great!
The pe foam is just magical! Need to find the right type
@@Keybored highly recommend trying the float mount mod when you get a chance!
Nice, I'm in the process of putting together the same build! Did you run into any issues with some switches not actuating in some sockets with the PE foam installed? Not sure what's causing this problem and I'm at a loss.
@@Ghoulius Yea i had that problem, make sure you punch out the holes for the middle pole manually for the switches that have problems. that little bit of extra gap sometimes causes it to not register. And if that fails try reseating the switch entirely. Update me if you need anymore help!
Only problem with the PE Foam mod is that it can come with static risks to the PCB :/ the one in the Jelly Epoch is ESD PE foam to prevent that risk. Believe the Reddit post explaining the PE foam mod has a comment that mentions this
you are correct maltezoa. I have been looking for a esd version... once i do find it, I'll link it!
@@Keybored pleeaaaaase do that when you do lmao I’ve been trying to find some myself
Another way of helping it flex is having o rings on the case screws
Interesting! I guess that is another way without using the 1mm sheets I did!
@@Keybored actually i tried to fit orings to the case screws but they just would not go in at all. What I ended up doing is glueing some o-rings on the bottom case where was suppose to meet the upper case. there is still some space beside the o-ring, so I put a 6mm thick poron there to support the pcb for some extra flex (like what you did, I removed the middle foam and also those 4 tiny ones of the side). combiend with pc plate, they actually end up pretty flexible.
I'm definitely trying out taking off all the screws between pcb and the plate since the pc plate is causing the pcb to bend a lot. Nice video and wonderful ideas!
thank u heaps man, will definitely be doing the black mod for my gmmk pro. sounds amazing and a clear tutorial
You're very welcome! Glad it was helpful!
those GMMK pro mods sound so good! I just bought a GMMK in silver and plan on doing your sound mod with some black inks, polycarb plate and modded "GOAT" stabs. I was wondering if there were some alternatives to buying a silicone sheet to have the even and consistent results for spacing the keyboard case. Ideally something that could be found in a home would be wonderful.
I think you can also use o rings!
@@Keybored i can attest to that. lol. just actually modded by gmmk pro 15 mins ago. cut up some o-rings i got for free from a purchase tecsee carrots off of amazon a few months ago. 3mm diameter and 1mm thickness. superglued them to the underside of the top frame. also had to file the part of the plate where the stabs go through to use durock v2 stabs.
Wow all Glorious had to do was make the case a few mm deeper and improve their gaskets.
Yup! And not connect their plate and PCB in 5000 spots with screws lol. Not sure why they did that... seems excessive
Love the sound profile of the black variation! Suggestion to remove the background music during the sound test so we can appreciate it fully!
Sorry! It was a late night edit and I missed a few things :(
Can you try make an integrate plate flex? Like the YMDK Wings? I'll aprecciate that so hard.
Haha that would be the ultimate challenge!
That is the big boss of keyboard, haha, i wish that you take the challenge, nice video by the way.
Thank you so much for posting this! Definitely trying the foam sandwich or Jelly Epoch mod!
Good luck!
@@Keybored Hello again! Have you ever tried adding tempest mod in the jelly epoch mod? This really got me so curious hahaha
@@Keybored ruclips.net/video/4T8Ov74i4m0/видео.html this the tempest mod that I mean haha
the second mod thocc'd me out of my mind!
:) It turned out very nice and really gave the GMMK Pro a voice!
It's so crazy the differences people like, I prefer my keyboards dead ass silent and want zero bounce.
:) the ultimate hobby of preference it seems
whooaaa the sound mod sounds so goooood
Too good! I was so surprised that the thin PE foam would do such a thing!
oh my the brass and the foam sounds so good.
:) it really turned out well
I did the PE foam mod on my recent GMMK Pro build and oh my god...it really does make it sound so good.
Yup! It's night and day!
Where did you get your PE foam? I'd like to do the same. Or did you just use the foam that the board came in?
@@JKypa It comes with the GMMK Pro packaging
@@vov4506 thanks!
You’ve outdone yourself with that flex mod!! Great vid 🐙🔥
Haha, Thanks takoyakeys! I thought it was crazy while sawing through the plate
@@Keybored Innovation always requires some bit of crazy haha
Hi! Nice video! Not the usual mods seen on other videos... btw, What stabs did you use in the brass plate? If durock v2, how did you make it fit?
Hi Pancho! Thanks! I used durock v2s for the black aluminum version! I used a precision file to enlarge the plate
Sound mod is POGGERS
:) I could listen to the sound all day
@@Keybored Cant get those d65 gaskets so its triple gaskets for me from what Glorious sends! Hope poly plate sounds as good with this mod
you did my gmmk pro magic!
:) Thanks!
I know this is an old video, but I'd be interested to see how it sounds with the silicone replacing the bottom case foam instead of that thin white sheet.
congratz your mods are really great
Thank you! I appreciate it!
war crimes in the first minute
Hi Scott, great video as always. I'm also about to do the PE foam mod for a RUclips video. I've read that there is concern with this kind of foam and ESD or electrostatic discharge. I don't know what kind of engineering degree you have but maybe you can shed some more light on this (my degree is Computer Engineering but I still don't know lol)? I've already ordered some anti-static PE foam and I've read that the PE foam in the Jelly Epoch also has some kind of ESD protection. I've read reports of issues such as switches failing to respond or double inputting, as well as one person having their side lights turn off after plugging in some speakers. I'm not sure if these could be traced back to ESD.
Hi Caloy! I have an aerospace engineering degree lol. I guess it doesn't help either of us with esd. I haven't had issues with the gmmk pro so far, but I have been looking for esd pe bags to substitute it out for. It's been a bit challenging to find one so thin, but I know they are out there! Probably need to get an electrical engineer up in here... How many engineers do we need to figure out esd lol. But I did hear that the gmmk pro has esd protected pcb so I hope that helps out.
@@Keybored Gotcha. Thanks for the response! I guess I'll just have to try it out hehe. Keep up the good work. Yours is my favorite keyboard channel on RUclips.
Haven't seen a comment asking the question: why the PE foam works such a wonder to the typing sound?
Haha... I think it's magic. I feel the pe foam being as bouncy as it is, helps to take the force of the switch bottom out and reflect it back up through the switch housing. The plate then takes it and amps it up, and the switch and keycaps do the same... Then you get magic
Bro thank you so much I use the foam that came with my gmmk pro and it sounds so good now
:) glad it worked out!
That PE mod is almost too easy to be true! Thanks for sharing this bro
Of course! It really is mind boggling good
I’m not sure I understand this whole premise. Criticizing the lack of Audible feedback due to the rigidity seems silly to me. If you are chasing audible feed back, why not use Box Jades or Box pinks??
Also if you want more springiness perhaps invest in different heavier switches.
For my GMMK Pro I actually put a ton of flex tape on the back and betwee. The plates because I wanted to make it more rigid by removing as much space to flex as possible, while still having some give. This way you get to enjoy the feeling of the switches you are using, and adjust your preferences from there rather than trying to make all sorts of micro adjustments inside…
thank you for the detailed guide video.. but just had one question.
can you do these gasket mod and pe foam mod at the same time??
Unfortunately no... Since the flex one cuts off all the tabs, it doesn't apply enough pressure to keep everything together and the hot swap sockets don't work :(
14:05 Music during sound tests is a no-no, but other than that good vid, good mods, thanks a bunch!
Yeah... it was a late night of editing and there were a few missed items... sorry!
@@Keybored No worries. I'm actually waiting on my FR4 plate from AVXworks to pair with the sound mod in search of the most silent GMMK PRO. Considering the plate already has flex cuts, it should flex a bit even without removing some of the gaskets. And yes, I am using Stupidfish foams.
Lowkey want to see what’s you mod approach to other top mounted keyboard other than the nk65 video you made, this series of no return keyboard modding has been oddly interesting although I’m most likely not going to do it to my keyboard
Haha, I'll be the guinea pig I guess lol. I thought about it long and hard before I started to do some of this
holy crap that's the best sounding gmmk pro i've ever heard
Thank you very much! And so easy to do also!
@@Keybored The foam you used, was it single ply or both layers of the bag?
Nice vid as always man! You going to try out one of the third party FR4 plates that are starting to show up for the GMMK Pro?
Yup! I have one on order from hype!
Did you do anything to the stabilizer ? cuz they sound amazing.
Was lowkey hoping that you would show a hybrid of the flex mod and the sound mod, but a great video nonetheless! Just curious, did you try the sound mod on other types of plates?
HI JustOreo! I tried to combine the 2 but didn't work :( The flex mod cuts off the tabs and the extra foam makes the gap too big for the hot swaps :(