I Built the QUIETEST Keyboard Again... But The Easier Way!
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2023
- #keybored I Built the QUIETEST Keyboard Again... But The Easier Way!
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So, out of all the videos that I have made in a while, the one with the most views is... the quiet keyboard one. Yes... Not the one with all of the mods, or how to improve your keyboard sound. Nope! The one that makes the keyboard sound like nothing... I get it. You can't always use a loud mechanical keyboard everywhere... and some people hate noise. So guess what... I made another video for you guys to make quiet keyboards... but easier than last time. Let's go!
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I know the Kailh Midnight Pros weren't the most silent of the bunch, but I thought the typing sound from them was really good... With the other switches, you could almost hear a little squeak from the silicone, but the midnights had a lovely soft bottom out.
Bit of a late reply here but I recently picked up a set of these and they really are great.
In my opinion any silent switch that is manufactured by Outemu is by far the best option if you want absolute silence. I have an RK100 that I outfitted with Outemu silent Peach switches and there is more noise made my your fingers hitting the keycaps than the actual volume of the switch.
Ditto. I'm a big fan of Outemu's Silent Peach for linear switches and Silent Cream Yellow for tactile switches. Factory pre-lubed on both of these switches are incredibly silent. The tactile Cream Yellow have a slight spring noise, so maybe you can hear that in an absolutely silent room, but I prefer the tactile feeling over linear. I have two boards that I go back and forth on, even though the Silent Peach is probably less noisy, I find myself always reaching for the board with the Silent Cream yellows. If I could just fix my stabilizers.... :D
Try the Haimu switches, they are incredibly silent with their unique stem design. Ws switches are made by Haimu as well, super silent switches
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Maybe I should try them! I've had Outemu's blue switch and they suck really bad. But I feel like most blue switches do lmao
Haimu x geon might be louder by a bit but they definitely feel the best
I've been using the Boba U4's for over a year now in the build I bring into the office, and I couldn't recommend them more. Perfectly silent and smooth, never had a single complaint from those I work near. Thanks for this awesome video, Scott!
:) It's like the perfect medium I believe
Same
Do you think it's worth it to lube the Boba U4S?
Oh man, this was fun to see. Just a few weeks ago I was inspired by your Wind silent video to mod a keychron v6 to make it silent for in office typing. I used lubed/filmed silent cherry reds and used o rings for the tray mount, combining your old keychron mod with the silent switch mod. Turned out way quieter than I thought the kb could get with its lack of gaskets. Thanks for your videos, Scott!!
:) glad to hear that!
It's always cool to hear when someone makes up some of the maybe higher priced features with clever modding. Your build sounds pretty awesome.
do you like the feel of it? When I put o-rings on my keeb it just felt too much like membrane for me to justify using them.
@fundthementally I def like the results I'm working with. I don't think i notice any squish from the o rings themselves. And for office typing, it's super quiet even compared to my coworkers membrane kbs.
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Primarily, the reason I used o rings was to isolate the steel plate from the standoffs for the mounting hardware. It didn't really affect how hard my bottom out was, more so the sound isolation. I guess technically there is a very small amount of give since the screws are compressing o rings very lightly, but not enough for me to feel a difference when typing. Plus, using silent cherry reds means I get a slight mushy bottom out anyways due to the elastomer dampeners on the stems.
the membrane keyboard was a jumpscare after how nice all the other boards sounded
Now this is more my preference. The expensive one turned out very nice but it's cost is a bit much. Either way the concept can be applied to any board so great job showing us examples of what's possible, well done
I'd love to see you review the Haimu silent switches! I recently got some Haimu heartbeat and put them stock in a board with only one piece of bottom foam, and it's still alot quieter than my fully foamed up board with U4's. And not having that rubber dampening really helps with the feel of the switches, mind-blowing!
Those U4s sound pretty dang good! I'm in the middle of making a silent board for work so this video couldn't have come out at a more useful time
I think the reason people say membrane is more quiet is because offices are synonymous with that sound so people learned to tune it out in some way. I’ve never seen someone bring a MK to the office yet so when a new sound is introduced people hyperfixate on it even if it isn’t loud. Loved the video!
Great video Scott! I previously owned (and broke) a Keychron K2 and waited months and months thinking of a replacement. When the holidays hit, I saw that the V1 was part of the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale as were the Keychron silent switches (which I wasn't aware of) and one of their Cherry profile, double-shot PBT keycap sets. I am just blown away by the quality improvement relative to that early Kickstarter K2 and I'm glad you spotted this option for people as well. Great value if you want to get into keyboard/keycaps/silent linears. I don't want to become one of those people with 12 keyboards so at most, I may one day upgrade my switches to my original picks of Silent Alpacas but that's more than half the cost of my entire setup.
For my personal office board I actually use the Odin V2 myself with boba U4 silents lol. The only modding I did to the switches was I spring swapped my bobas to use 2 stage springs for the snappier feel.
Great video as always!
Just finished my Keychron K4 v2 with lubed+filmed durock dolphins. Also added a bigger battery and poron plate and case foam sheets. I was 100% inspired by your first silent keeb video! I love how quiet my keyboard is.
Another option for silent switches are the newly released WS Switches from Wuque Studios! They have silent linear and tactiles that are crazy quiet from what I've heard, and I even order a set of the silent tactiles for my work keyboard.
Yup, WS silent tactile feel very 👍
For those that can't find those, try the Skyloong Glaciers/ Epomaker Icebergs (but the silent version ofc, since they use the same type of silencing on the stem, but with varied actuation points and spring weight)
@@lazybee4267not anywhere close to a hiamu heartbeat linear
When compared, the keychron silent switches still sounded louder than the other 2 switches, for budget option, I guess the Outemu Silent Lemon or the newer Haimu Whisper could be viable to the build
Yeah, the Keychron version is not as quiet as something like the gats or cherry. But even Vs. those it's cheaper, so I guess there is a trade off
I've been using Outemu silent grays! Those are nice as well and soo cheap
but for me the keychron silent is just makes me love it , its not totally muted , and also it still has a little bit sound left off
The new style silents out there that use relief cuts in the stem vs. silicone inserts seem really nice. Plus, no mushy feel on bottom-out. I've been meaning to get some.
If you need a more accessible version of the Haimus, the Wuque Studio switches are also made by Haimu and have silent linear and tactile versions!
I just "built" (assembled) my first keyboard but this video made me extremely impressed with what can really be achieved with readily available products. Thanks!
Nice^^ I started using zilents because I felt like my zealios were a little too loud at my office (no one ever said anything) but after trying them on different boards I think maybe lubed zelios are even quieter / nicer to type on.
These silent switches still use silicone dampeners, which to some can feel mushy and they don't like that. Switches made by Haimu, such as the Heartbeat and Whisper switches, or the WS silent tactile/linear use a new mechanism with a flex cut on the stem and holes in the bottom housing to kill sound. The result is a very nice silent with no mushiness.
Yup, the midnight pros are the same as well!
@@Keybored The Kalih Midnight Pros? They use a dampening pad in the housing. The Haimu Heartbeat/Whisper switches are different and don't use rubber or silicone pads at all. It's all plastic so less mushy but still silent. They also use the same stem design in the Skyloong Glacier switches as well.
The first time I was introduced to this channel was when I was searching how to make a silent keyboard and stumbled upon your video on the first silent keyboard build you did. It's really cool and fun on how you build keyboards and insert some science to the vid very creative!
Thank you so much! Will continue to see what I can do to help the community!
@@Keybored Honestly the mushiness wasn't what killed silicone-dampened switches for me - it's the silicone sticking onto the plastic housing (or vice-versa, for the Kailh Midnight Pros) that killed it for me
I like to rotate my switches once in a while and as long as you don't use them regularly they all stick to the top when you press, it's so bad I stopped using them
The Haimu switches can also be found called "WS Silent Tactile" or "WS Silent Linear" for the more generic versions, I think a genuine better stock silent keyboard you could compare to is against a silenced topre
OR you could get that Fold 2000 (nicknamed "Breast Implant") as well, since you literally just press on silicon on those xD
Your videos got me to take the step into making my first board, and I have to say for my first board It’s come out really well and I’m very pleased, I just need to find some Keycaps in a color way I like
I call switches like the Midnight Pros, muted switches. Another example would be the Gateron Black Crystel Silent Reds. These switches are just in between silents and normal switches. I love them for their sound profile, truly recommend trying them out.
:) It's the perfect gateway switch
the bonus switches you threw in the end sound much better than the average silent switches but how do they feel compared to the others? i'm not to big on normal silent switches due to the squishy feeling when typing so i shy away from silent switches
Inspiring and the sound comparisons were amazing. Thank you! As I type this on a G815 with GL clicky switches now many months later wonder what I was ever thinking..... Its nice though compared to my work keyboards.
thanks so much. I'm just starting to put together my first custom keyboard, which will be used in an office environment, so going down the silent route. This video is concise and informative. Thank you very much!
I would love to hear your opinion on Haimu switches. I've been using heartbeat linears for a little while now and they are great. Haimu makes silent linears and tactiles for Wuque studios and Geon Works. Keep up the great content.
The best silent switches by far are the new Haimu Heartbeat silent linears. They are also sold under different names and look in different regions.
I haven't used a wide variety of silent switches, but I have both the Haimu Heartbeat and Haimu Whisper (the names are backwards IMO, heartbeat is a linear and whisper is the tactile?). Both are amazing, but I agree the heartbeat is the best. Definitely worth checking out for anyone who wants a silent board. The whispers are quiet as well, but they have a louder top out due to how the silencing is implemented with the relief cut only being on the bottom of the stem. Still good switches, but the heartbeats are better for noise
@@sneakytowelsuit the ingenuity in this design made my jaw drop. Such a clever implementation that I understand is much less mushy than most other silent linears
This was an excellent ' rebuttal ' video, Scott!
Well, rebuttal isn't quite the right word... But excellent revisit on the topic, with more options!
Super nice video man, thanks and keep it up! Liked the kailh midnights a lot, silent but also has that subtle pop to it, really nice
Thank you so much! I appreciate the support!
This is great!! I'm debating between getting the Haimu Whispers, the Wuque Studio Silent Tactiles, and the U4s
Been using the Boba U4 for a very long time too. One of the most satisfying tactile yet silent switches I ever use.
I love that the easy Odin build sounded a bit like muffled rainfall.
Really nice,
But dang... That ultimat silent build crushes the other two in terms of audibility.
I built a color matching mechanisk urskog build with blue macaws. Theyre not as quiet as u4s are, but I kind of see that as a plus as it is quiet enough to be used in lectures while still having a reduced "mush" when bottoming out
Would also love to see these compared to the most silent topre build possible! The membrane keyboard is so rattley but a well tuned topre just sounds delightful
Ope also highly recommend ttc silent bluish whites for another silent tactile option! It's not as quiet as the U4S, but it's a very satisfying tactility!
Hello, thanks for the great video! Did you notice any double-clicking on the kailhs? Keypresses registering twice intermittently? My kailh box silent browns had some of those and it really made me nervous to try their other silents. Haven't had this issue with their box white v2's, fwiw!
The Kaihl aren’t as quiet as the Boba but I think I like the sound better. I’m using the Kaihl Silent Pinks and absolutely love everything about them from their feel to their sound.
You always cover everything I want to know and then some. you even covered the midnight pros, which ive been thinking of buying to compare with my bobagums! god bless you.
That Odin board is so clean. Wish I could afford to rock something that 🔥. Great build and great video!
When I got my Ducky 1|0 Edition with Roselios silent linear switches, I expected it to be really quiet, but due to the plastic case and no foam in back, it echoed horribly and the switches were pretty scratchy! I resolved this with clear gorilla tape mod (to keep the LEDs shining through) and lubed the switches from the top with 205G0. Huge improvement, but still not as good as these boards!
Amazing video and comparisons - thank you!
I've been looking for a video like this for a little while.
Would be interested to see your thoughts on the Haimu Heatbeats or Whispers that don't use rubber dampeners to silence the switches.
Would be cool if he did one of the more technical explanations for how it works too!
That would be an interesting option! I'll have to really look into those!
a silent keyboard for around 200 is a splitkb kyria, with silver choc switches (linear, about 40g of force) that are lubed and tapemodded, 3dprinted plates and some foam for bottom of chair feet (sliced up) invetween plates and pcb for sound dampening. yes it requires a bit of effort to set up and the kyria is a split keyboard, but ive had it for iver a year and it's really comfy and also super quiet
Ha cool, I built an Odin V1 with Boba U4S for a former friend :D
It really is exceptionally quiet. The skin brushing against the keycaps is louder than the switches.
I still haven't lubed my MX Zilents tho 😭
I was supposed to get that done months ago
Great video examples! I built my partner a v6 with the Keychron silents (she doesn't like loud keyboards) and everything but the spacebar is pretty dang quiet. Your vid is making me think of swapping hers with U4s though...
:) You can also grab some U4s and put them in the larger keys only as well :)
What I have seen from me running a Iris with Silent Dolphins inside. Is that first of course it's not making no sound. Mine has a nice bass sound (peaking at 76 hz) and the most fun is that depending of the table the sound it different! My favorite is at my parents house where they have a marble table. Feels so good
Honestly, can't come back from it!
that Odin setup was insane. Love your vids.
I think these could probably use a tape layer on top of the plate to help damp down the sound from the key caps hitting the place (that sounds like it was the loudest part of the keycron option)
@Keybored As a newbie to this, do I need to purchase anything extra when you say you've used the "silencing pads" as well as the "silicon wire dampeners" ? Does this come with the set of Owlabs Owlstabs? Cheers.
i was hoping you'd revisit the quiet keyboard! those frankenswitches was too much for me, so I hoped you'd look at other silent types switches!
:) the Boba u4 and bobagums are the best alternative!
Check out the haimu heartbeat switches. They use a brand new, innovative mold type with no rubber silencer so they are less mushy, factory lubed (inconsistent but not bad), and pretty cheap!
I am building my dad a keyboard for his office work and I was thinking about mx zilents and then i came across the boba u4s and I am really glad you made this video thnx for the useful vid scott!
Akko's going to release a budget silent switch, can't wait to try those for my first silent build.
I know this may be a random loaded question to answer in the comments, but how do you go about planning the timeline/flow of your videos. Since you have made so many videos at this point in time does it come naturally or do you still plan out heavily what points you want to make and when in the video.
I still have to think about and plan pretty heavily :(
@@Keybored gotcha, thats 100% understandable as your videos are amazing and I have started to dabble into making videos and the production of them can be quite the process.
I'm kind of curious how the boba's would sound on the keychron keyboard and vice versa with the odin and keychron keys. In other words between the two builds, is it the switches or the keyboard itself causing the sound difference. Based on the kaihl/boba comparison, I'm thinking its the switches.
And yes, I highly recommend the Boba U4's as I'm using them and they are quite silent; while still tactile.
i would love to see a silent switch comparison video, there are so few out there, especially fewer that are up to date
Keychron V1, GK Gamakay Phoenix Linear Switch , and your choice of key caps. I feel is comparable to the highend in this video. I think i will be checking out Boba U4S switches soon though.
Bro I sent this video link to my friend to make him get into keebs, and he did and threw his membrane off and got a K552 pro by reddragon. Btw I love the V5, it had the sound of a traditional mechanical keeb, and yet still relatively quiet compared to my CIY tester 68 with jwick blacks, also those kailh midnights :>
Pls keep making vids and inspire more ppl :)
I would love to see a review of the new haimu silents. Or the wuque studio silents, since those use the same mechanism.
THANK you for covering silent switches. Thoughts on silent alpacas? They're my favorite silent switch. My keyboard broke and I got the keychron k2 pro with silent alpacas as a temp standin, and I love it a lot.
I keep the membrane keyboard provided for work in an office closet! I work on a Keychron Q6 + Durock Dolphin lubed silent switches + Keychron doubleshot PBT cherry MX keycaps! [and the same setup at home just diffent colour keycaps] 😁
would love to hear how these compare with the haimu heartbeat switches.
It’s ok Scott I watch your videos to make my keyboards sound good, you still have me :)
I love your channel the science behind keyboards is so interesting
Thank you so much! Glad to be of help!
The extra step of showing us the midnights was awesome! Thanks for that...
Logitech has the worst and the loudest membrane keyboards.
There are so many quiet membrane keyboards.
you are right. i just built my first keeb (tray mount, plastic case) with silent switches and it sounds more muted than both Logitech Silent Touch and K380.
As a programmer, I don't want to hear my keyboard when I'm working (in the office or at home) and I honestly don't think keyboards sound "good". I use silent switches but it'd be great to know some hacks to make it even quieter.
Thing is, I get you but I personally think there is always a non silent keyboard to you that sounds good.
Back in the day the Dell Quietkey keyboards were pretty quiet, quieter than the membrane keyboard featured in this video. Additionally the Maxiswitch-built battleship keyboards like the Gateway 2000-branded Anykey, and the later Sun Microsystems keyboards were also pretty quiet. The Dell and Sun offerings were meant for computer labs and office environments specifically.
The thing I've learned about keyboards over more than 25 years in IT, the quality of a good rubber-dome can be far better than a bad mechanical. Of course that doesn't mean that I think all rubberdomes are better, most are very much not, but there are a lot of gimmicky low-end mechanicals that aren't especially good out of the box. Professional keyboards like those early VT terminal WYSE with Cherry MX Blacks were good, but there's been a lot of trading on simply being mechanical lately and then upfitting with bling.
I'm watching these because I was the guy in the office pounding away on an ancient IBM Model-M, and I'm looking for something with a good feel but exceedingly quiet. This and videos like it offer ideas, both for new builds and for taking an off the shelf mechanical and swapping the switches. It would be quite the solder-job for what I have, but it may be worthwhile if I can get what I want in the process.
I am very new to the hobby and your vids are top notch!!
would you go with the Keychron Silent K Pro or the gateron silent?
My man did it again, twice! I was waiting for this one!
:) Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the support!
Haimu Whispers are another great silent tactile. If it weren't for the fact that I like RGB, I'd be daily-ing those instead of the U4s I have with the RGB clear tops
I just use a niz plum with o rings and some tape. Not dead silent but it's amazing and feels so good. I just wish I could replace the stabilizers.
1:54 As much as im not a fan of non-standard full size layouts, this is really not bad!
Honestly I find most silent builds not sounding that great, you hear all the little squeaks and rubbings since there is nothing to drown those sounds out, at least, that's what I assume what is going on... BUT, that Kailh Midnight Pro Silent build is one heck of a different story! That thing sounds good!
I just built a board with Boba U4 silent. It's really a quiet switch. Great for office setting and late night gaming sessions.
Thank you for reviewing our switches (I am Gazzew) - just want to communicate, the switches are U4 (not U4S). I've sent a message to Milktooth to make sure he's labeling them correctly. Thank you again for your review -- Tao
going to check this kailh midnights... they sound fantastic!
I love the “marble-y” or thock sounds. I watch the silent videos because I also love the science behind it all.
How much do the keycaps factor into this?
Does PBT or ABS make more noise?
Are the differences on a case by case basis?
Or is it just all the same?
I’m curious if you combine the quietest one with some gaskets it would cut down the sound even more. I added gaskets to my keyboard at work which has brown switches in it and it improved things enough that it didn’t drive everyone crazy hearing me type all the time.
I want to use TKL ISO layout with hot swap switches, so my keyboard options are currently as follows:
(1) GMMK TKL ISO
(2) ???
Add Boba U4 switches and PBT keycaps and it should cost around $170. You may need to tune the stabs if you want really silent.
I work in an office and I use a leopold keyboard that I modified with boba u4 switches and I have by far the most silent keyboard. membrane keyboard clack and most importantly, they creak in a very obnoxious way, especially when people type heavily on them. The only membrane keyboard that is truly quiet is one with topre silent switches.
Membranes suck bro, can't believe I used them, bro. Thank you for the hard work, bro! ^^ Got a Keychron Q5 for work and productivity, gonna be modding it soon bro.
Great video, as always.
I wounder how the middle of the road sounds: combining the Boba U4S and the Keychron V5
I liked the Odin build. I'm tempted to try the U4s myself, they seem incredibly silent for a tactile switch.
U4S is probably the most silent out of the box Vs. others. Can't go wrong. The one that may be slightly more silent is the linear version, the Bobagum. I still feel the ultimate quiet is the MX Zilent tho... requires so much work and money
@@Keybored I'm fully aware of silent linears. I tried the Bobagums previously but went with the Nightcalls instead since they felt better (less squishy and smoother)
My Odin V1 is my board at work. I put Durock shrimps (tactile gang here) and I’m always amused when people told me it is quieter than my colleague’s membrane keyboard.
For my next silent build. I’m going to join the Wind X r2 GB (I own r1 and man I like this board) with the southpaw version. I already bought the switches: Haimu Whisper, quite silent without the mushiness of the silicon dampeners, I love them.
:) The power of silent switches in mechs!
i just got some akko penguin switches, my first silents and my first tactiles, i know they have been out for a bit already but i would love to see you do a build with them, the tactility is super satisfying and they are a LOT more silent than i thought they would be, i have them in my keychron v1 and its a match made in heaven, just feel bad for my jelly pinks, i feel like it will be a while until i take them out again XD
iam a bit newbie with mechanical keyboards, you used the K Pro just for simplicity right? I could use MX Zilent as well (for keychron)?
You found the loudest membrane keyboard for this video 😂
Nope, not even close
Which weight of the U4s did you use? I can’t figure out which one would be best for me.
Thank you very much hood info l!
Oh man, I am definitely checking out those Kailh Midnight Pros.
Hahaha, At work I was using a membrane keyboard, until I have my current 96% build with ymd 96 wood version, and gateron silent brown (lubed with 80g spring) and now it's more quite than my previous build. My keychron q5 with durock koala at home is no so noisy too :)
If you want another silent budget switch, Akko just released their Haze Pink silent switches at 14 bucks for 45. Another great option in the silent switch space.
Thanks for the advice! But I decided not to work with Akko anymore. Not in alignment with their practices as of late :(
@@Keybored I'm out of the loop, what have they done recently?
What if it is the keychron with the midnight pro? Will it be as quiet as the last demostration?
The odin v2 is so nice. I'm currently daily driving mine with lubed and filmed box ink black v2, but the boba U4S are in my work board (a kbd67 lite bluetooth board with the switch pad and the silicone filler) and my sisters work keyboard (also a kbd67 lite).
Built one for my girlfriend with ktt roses, case foam, plate foam and no poron foam. It’s honestly so good… I have a bunch of high end boards myself like the Mr Suit, Shelby80 and Mode Sonnet and honestly I consider the Odin to be absolutely on par with them. The space bar especially sounds amazing, criminally underrated board in my opinion.
8:20 Membrane keyboards may be quieter than my full size keyboard full of jades and navies, but they are absolutely not quiet by normal measurements!
that odin build with the kailh midnight pros - awesome; atleast to my ears gaddamn theyre like yes silent, but creamy 🤤
I would like to find something similar to my old Keytronic KT-2001 keyboard from back in the days. It's a rubber dome keyboard i know. But the sound and feel when typing was epic. What keyboard or/and switches would be a good starting point? Typing sounds are available on RUclips if you search the model.
My goal is to use it on my works desk. Doesn't matter if it's wired or wireless or both. Preferable if it's USB-C if it's wired. Will be connected to my laptop dock.
I have looked at keychron keyboards but there are not supermany to choose from since I need Nordic/Swedish keycaps/layout.
Preferable would be to have all those number keys aswell on the side but not really required.
Instead of the Keychron V5, go for the recently release K4 Pro. Same layout but with the added Bluetooth wireless and still QMK