I really do think that it would’ve for the best if Mnet announced the group as an 11-12 member group during the final because Jesus Christ these guys are all so talented it’s insane!
@@unorthodox2032 izone was a collaboration with akb48, produce boy groups though had 11 members. I mean if mnet wants a plot twist at the end they would probably have 11 member line up as they keep announcing top 11 🙃
#12 Matthew and daeul were given complete different edits. mnet did give Matthew a chance to explain his side, he was rather given a chance to explain his situation in comparison to daeul was given an evil edit, while not given a chance to explain himself but tbh he did lack quite a lot skill at that time to prove himself.
Fair point - the edits are different, but the fundamental narrative I believe Mnet was pushing for those 2 at the time of the edit is the same. A selfish member who is reluctant to give up their part even though the rest of the group thinks that it is what's best for them. And the fact that their skill level is used as a means by the producers to decide whether they get to explain themselves in the episode, and even by the show viewers in excusing this behaviour by the producers - THAT's the double standard.
Yeah I agree I was thinking the same thing daeul's Edit was a lot harsher and Matthew Was at least able to explain himself daeul Just looked plain bad It makes me kind of feel sorry for him they did them so dirty
4:00 Yes he has? Mnet was just more focused on shoving the camera in the face of a poor crying child. Jiwoong did an excellent job with the Backdoor K team and it shows by how the members til this day want to be in a team with him and well...how they won the entire mission although that was the mission with the most groups competing. Their group chant was literally just his own name. And to many people including myself he proved himself to be leader material during the matthew situation. Yes. Sung Hanbin is an incredible teacher but he didn't have the heart to suggest they switch parts. Lots of conflict could've been avoided if he had just said what he was thinking when he first noticed them strugging with their parts. Jiwoong was the one who suggested it which was the right move in my opinion as both matthew and seungeon sounded way better in their new parts. (No, i don't think matthew was in the wrong either, having your heart set on a part isn't a crime). Jiwoong isn't just the oldest, he has been a trainee since 2010/11, has been in three groups and is someone people lean on for support. He has the industry experience, patience and skills necessary to be a leader. A leader also needs to stand up for their members so who would be better than the guy who has sued two companies he has been in? He has been through the worst of the industry so I trust him to make sure the other members don't experience anything like that. I could go on and on about how he would be a good leader but he just fits the bill the best out of everyone currently in the Top 9. I would argue out of everyone left but that's entirely just a preference in leadership methods.
@byuntaed Jiwoong has really become the older brother of all the contestants he has worked with. I think it's especially endearing how yujin teases him and doesn't use honorifics when talking to him. It makes alot of sense considering yujin is the age of jiwoong's actual baby brother. I love the videos of all these contestants excitedly pointing out ads or photocards of their "Jiwoong hyung" while they are out in public meeting fans
Hmm personally for me I think he's more of a popular hyung among his dongsaengs as opposed to clearly being a 'leader' 🤔 I guess I was expecting to see more from him precisely because he's been in the industry for a while. I don't doubt that he does have some leadership qualities (e.g. ability to command and control) but I see stronger leadership in a lot more contestants on the show.
Definitely agree that the voting should be flipped and honestly, the show should focus more in general on building a group. A group that's actually balanced, because certain positions need to be filled. Bigger mentors inputs or a different way to structure the show would be better
If it was flipped many filler trainees would debut which don't have a strong fandom backing them up. like what's the point of debuting if your fans aren't going to buy the albums, not steam the songs, not vote for u to go on variety shows. The reason one pick flips the voting bcz it decides how strong and dedicated ur fandom is.
@@byuntaed that's an interesting point, I can definitely see that as the reason for the one-pick. Still, I think building a strong group should be more prioritised, with input from mentors and less influence by fan votes
#9 I agree, he is a good vocal, he did well in Man in Love, but when he dances simultaneously he is not as stable as Hui and Jay proved in En Garde, Over Me and LMR.
voting should not be flipped, as this would lead to the first eliminations to be dropping really talented people. 9 picks allows you to add trainees who caught youre eye but may not commit to choosing.
True I'm conflicted on that too... I guess I'm just not sure how imposing a one-pick voting at the end will translate to a strong and loyal fanbase for the entire group.
9 I gree Tearea voice is beautiful, but it doesn't make you arouse interest around him. You will hear the song once or twice, then stop because it is a normal voice, and it will not match with strong voices and active songs, so we want Lee hoetaek hui and Jay in the lineup of the best together The best vocal line in the fourth generation
the Woongki one they probably did it because he was safe and wanted to add drama so that people would watch it, he might not be the most voted but he's quite beloved by the public because of his bright energy...
MNET need to scrap that 50/50 vote distribution to see who the strong contestant is. At the end of the day, once they debut, merch will not be divided bet Korean and international fans anyway. There are more talented contestants that are wasted bec of this rule. And also, maybe give the mentors a share in the voting too plus ability to bring a back a contestant.
Yes I think so too, they should be weighing domestic and international success equally - especially today! Like why push K-pop to be such a global force in international music if at the end of the day you care mostly of what the domestic fans want (not trying to be rude but I really do want to understand better). And definitely the mentors should have some say in the evaluations tbh, I don't think fans should decide absolutely everything (app votes, on-site stage scores, mission song allocations). But for some reason I feel like they're saving the mentor's planet pass for the finale... 👀
I actually have a hot take. International fans are actually way more biased than korean fans. They will only vote for global fans for no actual reason. So instead of finding reasons to vote for someone and rooting for that person because you like them, they'll literally vote for people and then find reasons to justify that vote. Like please get it together. Also I'm worried about the final group. The onepick system is trash because it's gonna create a fractured fandom and we'll have a flop group. People who are generally liked by both international and korean fans won't make the group because of strong one people fandoms even though technically they would be more popular, as in generally liked by a larger amount of people instead of fanatically followed by a small group of people. Ya I can already see the amount of drama there's gonna be when the final lineup is announced. And we're gonna have yet another group who's less popular than the show that formed them...
the final grp would flop if F4 members debut which is most likely, like say my name which has ¾ F4 members is charting well on koreans chart. and if the g group big 3 debuts the international charts are secured. and if I'm not wrong say my name has 10k likes on melon surpassing gp999 most liked utopia.
@@lolano3392 they would probably show 4 candidates for 8th or 9th spot and that's when panic vote would begin. I'm not sure though cuz they did like this in produce x 101 during live finals.
dont agree with the eleven option, he has done pretty well showing off leadership skill despite low screen time. always prioritising others skills and pushing himself back to let others shine.
#13 I wish they did but it would depend upon who the 10th and 11th trainee are bcz every would try to sneak thier pick for this ranks and those trainees would hated quite a lot, and if they were to another 11 member line up people would beg to make it 13 or 14 cause thier pick didn't get a chance to Debut either way.
10 The highest Korean votes are only at Song Hanbin, Tearea Han yujin and Kim Kyubin, while the worlds must vote Lee hoetaek Who does not have high votes in Korea and internationally
#9 from what I know taerar is best boys planet vocalist after hui. I ain't a vocal coach but he probably is a great main vocal material like he literally created history during man in love.
im not too sure. jay has far more training and his voice should be favored more, but because taerae is korean and jay is not, taerae is favored. jay has more style, and carries every team hes been in because his vocals are out of this world. but yeah, hui is most likely the strongest, considering he has the most experience, and training. but then again, what determines the level of a vocalist if we ourselves arent vocal coaches? it is simply personal style preferance.
honestly, the best vocalists on BP are hui, taerae, seungeon and jay...but if I gotta be brutally honest, I would rank taerae lowest of this group cuz he reminds me of a ballad singer rather than a kpop singer
#4 it doesn't cause while voting for 9 contest many would become filler, meaning won't have a stable fan base. 1 pick power determines the strength of a fan base and if the debut grp would have a loyal fan base or not.
Hmm I disagree here. I think the reason why people could have 'filler' picks in the first place is because they have to vote for many contestants that they don't even feel much of an attachment to, which happens when you start off the show with having to vote for 9 (i.e. like now). This would be less of a problem when flipped, because people naturally would form more attachments with more contestants as the show progresses and we see more of them, so we'd be voting for less 'filler' picks. I'm sure there are more people frustrated with having too little votes for too many picks at this point in the show, than those who were frustrated at having too many votes for too little picks at the start of the show (if that makes sense). And I still think the overall balance of the final group matters more than individual member's one-pick power when determining commercial success.
@@rainosaurus That's a good point and my stance on #4, i'm conflicted mainly because of the pros listed by others and you above and the cons which is I feel voting will be more strategic and less about oh this person is good let me 1 pick them hence it's going to cause everyone to be blindsided by the people who made the lineup, also 1picking someone at the start is screaming for the talented trainees to be eliminated as more people might vote for a daeul or the house just because they were funny.
i love ur videos btw lol, specifically these ones. ill share mine too. (all opinions after episodes 9 and 10) #1. its so true. peope are voting for all vocalists, or all dancers, but thats not how a group is gonna run properly. #2. agreed. i also think if higher ranked trainees are put with some lower ones, the lower ones might have a better chance. like, if every member in the group is top9, and they get the benefit, whats the point? its just leaving the lower ranked people stranded, further pushing them away from top 9 #3. this is EXACTLY what ive been saying. and the star masters appreciate jay more than the ridiculous audience. a lot of people voting only vote based off of visuals, not actual skill. like a lot of koreans dont like jay because he "doesnt fit the korean beauty standards" #4. this is true. it seems more fair as well. this way ur actually building a group, as you said. #5. agreed. this was very evil. they put in hard work for no reason and lots of people felt discouraged and didnt try at all. they said "whats the point of practicing hard if we are going to be eliminated anyway" i especially love that even though wunmuti was eliminated, he tried his best the whole time #6. i agree. im not sure why a lot of people hate on him. he was praised during the star level test. #7. i agree. he would be hated on even more if he was competitive. and, he also lost his confidence because of the endless hate he is receiving, resulting in him being less noticable (although i will always noice him ofc) #8. i find the final voting hours/ the extra time stupid, it feels fake, like its mnets doing not the actual fans. #9. agreed. i will leave it at that. u said it. #10. yup yup yup. #11. agreed. he is a hyung to most. #12. in the most respectful way possible, was it really edited? cuz he still said those things. i sound like a naive fan falling into mnets trap, but its hard to know whats what. they are trying to create drama. matthew also said he was sorry and knew it was selfish, so it triggered me a lot as well, but we will never know what really happened. honestly, after that whole situation it made me not like matthew as much. his high rank has gotten him a lot of privlege. im very happy with the way hanbin carried the situation. hes a good leader. #13. mnet better anounce an 11 member group. theres way more than 9 that deserve to debut.
Thank you for watching! I really love comments like this where other viewers participate to share their thoughts and views objectively 😍 Quickly touching on your point for #12 - someone on here mentioned that the way Matthew reacted came across as very 'privileged' and I couldn't agree more (I still love him tho). I just know if it was a lower-ranked G trainee that did this, he would have been dragged to filth (i.e. Shuaibo).
@@rainosaurus of course! i really enjoyed your video :)) yes exactly. i know matthew is kind so mnet most likely did edit it weirdly but yes if he was lower in rank he’d most definitely get dragged for it
#1 survival shows are basically popularity contest, u really can't complain. we as voters vote for contest who caught our eye, we over here aren't doing charity by voting for other contestants. If u want to stan only talented grp it would flop hard in its own domestic market cuz only talent won't make a grp popular.
Seok matthew and daeul’s double standard would only apply if daeul is at least skilled in dancing (needs more training time) and knows how to change keys for his voice if he knows that he can’t sing that high
Yeah you kind of have a point with that a lot of people were pointing out how daeul Didn't really have the skill set to be acting like that Probably because he was putting his group at risk due to his lack of talent I still felt a bit bad for him though because ment Made him look really bad
#5 every produce season has followed this pattern and I think even gp999 followed it 🤔 yeah it does create drama but everything going smoothly would just make the show boring to watch.
just an opinion but matthew saying he should have just gone to switch team if they are changing his part sounds so privileged... well fortunately it ended well (i guess)
I get what you mean it definitely left a very weird aftertaste when he said that. I like Matthew, but I honestly think if it was a trainee outside of the top 5 ranks the audience would not have let that slide. That person would have been dragged to filth fr
Right that made him look some sort of way Because a lot of the other Trainees didnt really have that option Plus they kicked out some people in their group Who really suited the concept and were pretty helpful I understood that he was attached to the part but honestly I didn't understand why he just didn't let it go Because they clearly weren't letting him keep the part either way he kept on like Saying is this a joke or I'm being pranked I understand he may have thought This could have been a prank like what was done with end granade but at the same time it was kind of obvious like you're gonna have to Give up your part and anyone would normally Be upset over that but I feel like he should just let it go Because The clearly weren't gonna let him keep the part unlike daeul's Situation where he kinda had a full control Because he was the leader and no 1 had the guts to speak Matthew didn't have much of an option he kind of had to give up So that way he would look better and he wouldn't probably have been evil editing Because now this is probably going to decrease His rank and his votes
yep! i think he said that specifically because he is number 2 (for now). as the creator said if it was anybody above top 5 hed be dragged. he has a lot of bias going for him.
1# hanbin isn't just a good dancer I don't vote for him just because of his dance or his visual he has everything he should have to be an idol he doesn't have to be the best vocalist or anything but he is all rounder that's why I'm supporting him along with some other trainees I think your way of thinking is weird at some points
There was no mention of S Hanbin being JUST a good dancer. No doubt the guy is a full package, he's my number 1 pick from the beginning. I think you missed the point there.
The point was that I've seen a lot of show viewers are excluding some trainees who are very strong at a certain skill, but weak at another and sees this as a "weakness" (e.g. Taerae might not be the best dancer but he's definitely one of the stronger vocalists on the show), so they don't vote for that person. But imo, this individual tradeoff is one that benefits the group as a whole.
the video is titled boys planet hot takes, and it includes the creator's predictions and opinions. Its not categorized specifically a video for popular or unpopular opinions.
I mean you're not wrong he kinda has more of a badass vibe to him everybody else gives more Sexy vibe or just different in general if we're gonna be 100% honest
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I really do think that it would’ve for the best if Mnet announced the group as an 11-12 member group during the final because Jesus Christ these guys are all so talented it’s insane!
The produce groups had 12 members so it would have been perfect if Boys Planet group also had 12 members.
@@vixxexo6855 TRUEE
@@vixxexo6855 produce had 11 members.
@@byuntaed yeah, MOST. izone had 12 though
@@unorthodox2032 izone was a collaboration with akb48, produce boy groups though had 11 members. I mean if mnet wants a plot twist at the end they would probably have 11 member line up as they keep announcing top 11 🙃
#12 Matthew and daeul were given complete different edits. mnet did give Matthew a chance to explain his side, he was rather given a chance to explain his situation in comparison to daeul was given an evil edit, while not given a chance to explain himself but tbh he did lack quite a lot skill at that time to prove himself.
Fair point - the edits are different, but the fundamental narrative I believe Mnet was pushing for those 2 at the time of the edit is the same. A selfish member who is reluctant to give up their part even though the rest of the group thinks that it is what's best for them. And the fact that their skill level is used as a means by the producers to decide whether they get to explain themselves in the episode, and even by the show viewers in excusing this behaviour by the producers - THAT's the double standard.
Yeah I agree I was thinking the same thing daeul's Edit was a lot harsher and Matthew Was at least able to explain himself daeul Just looked plain bad It makes me kind of feel sorry for him they did them so dirty
4:00 Yes he has? Mnet was just more focused on shoving the camera in the face of a poor crying child. Jiwoong did an excellent job with the Backdoor K team and it shows by how the members til this day want to be in a team with him and well...how they won the entire mission although that was the mission with the most groups competing. Their group chant was literally just his own name. And to many people including myself he proved himself to be leader material during the matthew situation. Yes. Sung Hanbin is an incredible teacher but he didn't have the heart to suggest they switch parts. Lots of conflict could've been avoided if he had just said what he was thinking when he first noticed them strugging with their parts. Jiwoong was the one who suggested it which was the right move in my opinion as both matthew and seungeon sounded way better in their new parts. (No, i don't think matthew was in the wrong either, having your heart set on a part isn't a crime). Jiwoong isn't just the oldest, he has been a trainee since 2010/11, has been in three groups and is someone people lean on for support. He has the industry experience, patience and skills necessary to be a leader. A leader also needs to stand up for their members so who would be better than the guy who has sued two companies he has been in? He has been through the worst of the industry so I trust him to make sure the other members don't experience anything like that. I could go on and on about how he would be a good leader but he just fits the bill the best out of everyone currently in the Top 9. I would argue out of everyone left but that's entirely just a preference in leadership methods.
I agree, like jiwoong has experienced the industry before and due to him being oldest the younger trainee do rely on him a lot.
@byuntaed Jiwoong has really become the older brother of all the contestants he has worked with. I think it's especially endearing how yujin teases him and doesn't use honorifics when talking to him. It makes alot of sense considering yujin is the age of jiwoong's actual baby brother. I love the videos of all these contestants excitedly pointing out ads or photocards of their "Jiwoong hyung" while they are out in public meeting fans
This idiot is a Jiwoong hater.. time and again this idiot has put jiwoongs skills down.. nothing new
Hmm personally for me I think he's more of a popular hyung among his dongsaengs as opposed to clearly being a 'leader' 🤔 I guess I was expecting to see more from him precisely because he's been in the industry for a while. I don't doubt that he does have some leadership qualities (e.g. ability to command and control) but I see stronger leadership in a lot more contestants on the show.
@@rainosaurus I would want Zhang Hao to be the leader
Definitely agree that the voting should be flipped and honestly, the show should focus more in general on building a group. A group that's actually balanced, because certain positions need to be filled. Bigger mentors inputs or a different way to structure the show would be better
If it was flipped many filler trainees would debut which don't have a strong fandom backing them up. like what's the point of debuting if your fans aren't going to buy the albums, not steam the songs, not vote for u to go on variety shows. The reason one pick flips the voting bcz it decides how strong and dedicated ur fandom is.
@@byuntaed that's an interesting point, I can definitely see that as the reason for the one-pick. Still, I think building a strong group should be more prioritised, with input from mentors and less influence by fan votes
#9 I agree, he is a good vocal, he did well in Man in Love, but when he dances simultaneously he is not as stable as Hui and Jay proved in En Garde, Over Me and LMR.
yes, completely agree. people forget that in a group u have to dance AND sing
seunghwan’s rank is criminally low, i want my boy to get his rank thirteen back.
voting should not be flipped, as this would lead to the first eliminations to be dropping really talented people. 9 picks allows you to add trainees who caught youre eye but may not commit to choosing.
True I'm conflicted on that too... I guess I'm just not sure how imposing a one-pick voting at the end will translate to a strong and loyal fanbase for the entire group.
9 I gree Tearea voice is beautiful, but it doesn't make you arouse interest around him. You will hear the song once or twice, then stop because it is a normal voice, and it will not match with strong voices and active songs, so we want Lee hoetaek hui and Jay in the lineup of the best together The best vocal line in the fourth generation
yes!!!
@@audioszzone6139It's great that someone agrees with me
the Woongki one they probably did it because he was safe and wanted to add drama so that people would watch it, he might not be the most voted but he's quite beloved by the public because of his bright energy...
MNET need to scrap that 50/50 vote distribution to see who the strong contestant is. At the end of the day, once they debut, merch will not be divided bet Korean and international fans anyway. There are more talented contestants that are wasted bec of this rule. And also, maybe give the mentors a share in the voting too plus ability to bring a back a contestant.
Yes I think so too, they should be weighing domestic and international success equally - especially today! Like why push K-pop to be such a global force in international music if at the end of the day you care mostly of what the domestic fans want (not trying to be rude but I really do want to understand better). And definitely the mentors should have some say in the evaluations tbh, I don't think fans should decide absolutely everything (app votes, on-site stage scores, mission song allocations). But for some reason I feel like they're saving the mentor's planet pass for the finale... 👀
I actually have a hot take. International fans are actually way more biased than korean fans. They will only vote for global fans for no actual reason. So instead of finding reasons to vote for someone and rooting for that person because you like them, they'll literally vote for people and then find reasons to justify that vote. Like please get it together.
Also I'm worried about the final group. The onepick system is trash because it's gonna create a fractured fandom and we'll have a flop group. People who are generally liked by both international and korean fans won't make the group because of strong one people fandoms even though technically they would be more popular, as in generally liked by a larger amount of people instead of fanatically followed by a small group of people.
Ya I can already see the amount of drama there's gonna be when the final lineup is announced. And we're gonna have yet another group who's less popular than the show that formed them...
I like your hot take who do you think will be rush voted
the final grp would flop if F4 members debut which is most likely, like say my name which has ¾ F4 members is charting well on koreans chart. and if the g group big 3 debuts the international charts are secured. and if I'm not wrong say my name has 10k likes on melon surpassing gp999 most liked utopia.
@@lolano3392 they would probably show 4 candidates for 8th or 9th spot and that's when panic vote would begin. I'm not sure though cuz they did like this in produce x 101 during live finals.
@@lolano3392 though if I had to guess probably gyuvin, gunwook or keita.
dont agree with the eleven option, he has done pretty well showing off leadership skill despite low screen time. always prioritising others skills and pushing himself back to let others shine.
#13 I wish they did but it would depend upon who the 10th and 11th trainee are bcz every would try to sneak thier pick for this ranks and those trainees would hated quite a lot, and if they were to another 11 member line up people would beg to make it 13 or 14 cause thier pick didn't get a chance to Debut either way.
10 The highest Korean votes are only at Song Hanbin, Tearea Han yujin and Kim Kyubin, while the worlds must vote Lee hoetaek Who does not have high votes in Korea and internationally
#9 from what I know taerar is best boys planet vocalist after hui. I ain't a vocal coach but he probably is a great main vocal material like he literally created history during man in love.
im not too sure. jay has far more training and his voice should be favored more, but because taerae is korean and jay is not, taerae is favored. jay has more style, and carries every team hes been in because his vocals are out of this world. but yeah, hui is most likely the strongest, considering he has the most experience, and training. but then again, what determines the level of a vocalist if we ourselves arent vocal coaches? it is simply personal style preferance.
honestly, the best vocalists on BP are hui, taerae, seungeon and jay...but if I gotta be brutally honest, I would rank taerae lowest of this group cuz he reminds me of a ballad singer rather than a kpop singer
@@okaycuttt32 yep!
#4 it doesn't cause while voting for 9 contest many would become filler, meaning won't have a stable fan base. 1 pick power determines the strength of a fan base and if the debut grp would have a loyal fan base or not.
Hmm I disagree here. I think the reason why people could have 'filler' picks in the first place is because they have to vote for many contestants that they don't even feel much of an attachment to, which happens when you start off the show with having to vote for 9 (i.e. like now). This would be less of a problem when flipped, because people naturally would form more attachments with more contestants as the show progresses and we see more of them, so we'd be voting for less 'filler' picks. I'm sure there are more people frustrated with having too little votes for too many picks at this point in the show, than those who were frustrated at having too many votes for too little picks at the start of the show (if that makes sense). And I still think the overall balance of the final group matters more than individual member's one-pick power when determining commercial success.
@@rainosaurus That's a good point and my stance on #4, i'm conflicted mainly because of the pros listed by others and you above and the cons which is I feel voting will be more strategic and less about oh this person is good let me 1 pick them hence it's going to cause everyone to be blindsided by the people who made the lineup, also 1picking someone at the start is screaming for the talented trainees to be eliminated as more people might vote for a daeul or the house just because they were funny.
i love ur videos btw lol, specifically these ones. ill share mine too. (all opinions after episodes 9 and 10)
#1. its so true. peope are voting for all vocalists, or all dancers, but thats not how a group is gonna run properly.
#2. agreed. i also think if higher ranked trainees are put with some lower ones, the lower ones might have a better chance. like, if every member in the group is top9, and they get the benefit, whats the point? its just leaving the lower ranked people stranded, further pushing them away from top 9
#3. this is EXACTLY what ive been saying. and the star masters appreciate jay more than the ridiculous audience. a lot of people voting only vote based off of visuals, not actual skill. like a lot of koreans dont like jay because he "doesnt fit the korean beauty standards"
#4. this is true. it seems more fair as well. this way ur actually building a group, as you said.
#5. agreed. this was very evil. they put in hard work for no reason and lots of people felt discouraged and didnt try at all. they said "whats the point of practicing hard if we are going to be eliminated anyway" i especially love that even though wunmuti was eliminated, he tried his best the whole time
#6. i agree. im not sure why a lot of people hate on him. he was praised during the star level test.
#7. i agree. he would be hated on even more if he was competitive. and, he also lost his confidence because of the endless hate he is receiving, resulting in him being less noticable (although i will always noice him ofc)
#8. i find the final voting hours/ the extra time stupid, it feels fake, like its mnets doing not the actual fans.
#9. agreed. i will leave it at that. u said it.
#10. yup yup yup.
#11. agreed. he is a hyung to most.
#12. in the most respectful way possible, was it really edited? cuz he still said those things. i sound like a naive fan falling into mnets trap, but its hard to know whats what. they are trying to create drama. matthew also said he was sorry and knew it was selfish, so it triggered me a lot as well, but we will never know what really happened. honestly, after that whole situation it made me not like matthew as much. his high rank has gotten him a lot of privlege. im very happy with the way hanbin carried the situation. hes a good leader.
#13. mnet better anounce an 11 member group. theres way more than 9 that deserve to debut.
Thank you for watching! I really love comments like this where other viewers participate to share their thoughts and views objectively 😍 Quickly touching on your point for #12 - someone on here mentioned that the way Matthew reacted came across as very 'privileged' and I couldn't agree more (I still love him tho). I just know if it was a lower-ranked G trainee that did this, he would have been dragged to filth (i.e. Shuaibo).
@@rainosaurus of course! i really enjoyed your video :)) yes exactly. i know matthew is kind so mnet most likely did edit it weirdly but yes if he was lower in rank he’d most definitely get dragged for it
#1 survival shows are basically popularity contest, u really can't complain. we as voters vote for contest who caught our eye, we over here aren't doing charity by voting for other contestants. If u want to stan only talented grp it would flop hard in its own domestic market cuz only talent won't make a grp popular.
1) what visuals?
2) that's true
6) proof?
7) you're right
8) suspicious
13) wouldn't that be nice
Seok matthew and daeul’s double standard would only apply if daeul is at least skilled in dancing (needs more training time) and knows how to change keys for his voice if he knows that he can’t sing that high
Yeah you kind of have a point with that a lot of people were pointing out how daeul Didn't really have the skill set to be acting like that Probably because he was putting his group at risk due to his lack of talent I still felt a bit bad for him though because ment Made him look really bad
#5 every produce season has followed this pattern and I think even gp999 followed it 🤔 yeah it does create drama but everything going smoothly would just make the show boring to watch.
true, mnet is doing this on purpose. would people really be watching if there was 0 drama?
#8 I agree, mnet was shaddy as hell to show him if he was 31st. They probably did it to create drama.
Totally agree that the one pick system should be reversed
just an opinion but matthew saying he should have just gone to switch team if they are changing his part sounds so privileged... well fortunately it ended well (i guess)
I get what you mean it definitely left a very weird aftertaste when he said that. I like Matthew, but I honestly think if it was a trainee outside of the top 5 ranks the audience would not have let that slide. That person would have been dragged to filth fr
Right that made him look some sort of way Because a lot of the other Trainees didnt really have that option Plus they kicked out some people in their group Who really suited the concept and were pretty helpful I understood that he was attached to the part but honestly I didn't understand why he just didn't let it go Because they clearly weren't letting him keep the part either way he kept on like Saying is this a joke or I'm being pranked I understand he may have thought This could have been a prank like what was done with end granade but at the same time it was kind of obvious like you're gonna have to Give up your part and anyone would normally Be upset over that but I feel like he should just let it go Because The clearly weren't gonna let him keep the part unlike daeul's Situation where he kinda had a full control Because he was the leader and no 1 had the guts to speak Matthew didn't have much of an option he kind of had to give up So that way he would look better and he wouldn't probably have been evil editing Because now this is probably going to decrease His rank and his votes
@@rainosaurus agreed. this shows how ridiculous people can be when it comes to their favs.
yep! i think he said that specifically because he is number 2 (for now). as the creator said if it was anybody above top 5 hed be dragged. he has a lot of bias going for him.
1# hanbin isn't just a good dancer I don't vote for him just because of his dance or his visual he has everything he should have to be an idol he doesn't have to be the best vocalist or anything but he is all rounder that's why I'm supporting him along with some other trainees I think your way of thinking is weird at some points
There was no mention of S Hanbin being JUST a good dancer. No doubt the guy is a full package, he's my number 1 pick from the beginning. I think you missed the point there.
@@rainosaurus oh I think I didn't get your point of view
The point was that I've seen a lot of show viewers are excluding some trainees who are very strong at a certain skill, but weak at another and sees this as a "weakness" (e.g. Taerae might not be the best dancer but he's definitely one of the stronger vocalists on the show), so they don't vote for that person. But imo, this individual tradeoff is one that benefits the group as a whole.
#3 star masters aren't allowed to vote cuz it a survival show voted 100% by fans 🙃
Trust me this video of yours isn't about popular or unpopular opinion, this is just your opinion, period.
And it's very weird.
Read the video? Even if it is, okay and? 😅
@@rainosaurus and you should suck on it 😁😁
ok and? i think her opinions were accurate
the video is titled boys planet hot takes, and it includes the creator's predictions and opinions. Its not categorized specifically a video for popular or unpopular opinions.
gunwook was part of my top 9, but after this previous performances i noticed that he really doesn’t match the energy of others🙁🙁🙁
AS IN?
@@nandanahkumar1374 as in en garde
I mean you're not wrong he kinda has more of a badass vibe to him everybody else gives more Sexy vibe or just different in general if we're gonna be 100% honest
he does stand out quite strongly, I like him but I'm not sure if this lineup is meant for him...