Hardcore wrestling fans tend to hate on Bischoff but I respect his honesty in regards to him owning his weaknesses. He stikes me as a guy who's true calling in life was being the Harley Davidson CEO and he got kind of close running WCW.
A lot of people forget that Eric is a media man who got involved in wrestling. He has a very different view of the industry than many people growing up within it. If anything Eric is objective which is a breath of fresh air.
lol, what honesty? the guy even lied about contacting Bret Hart prior to the Screwjob, Hart even called him out on Twitter over that lie. Nothing is ever his fault, nothing was ever his idea, he didn't do nothing, lol. And if he ran Harley Davidson, they would've been bankrupt. After all, Bischoff bankrupted each and every business he ever started, bankrupted Sonny Onoo and even himself twice. He has no idea how a busines works, heck, in one of his shoots it even became obvious the guy doesn't even know what financial terms like EBITDA mean. He's a complete moron, a cuckold (and yes, he is one, he went on trial over it) who is forever stuck in a midlife crisis
@@haroldhall1517 Of course the wrestlers liked Bankrupt Bischoff because they all played him like the biggest moron on the world and sucked all of turner's money out of him and hadn't even work that much since Bischoff never understood the purpose of House Shows at all.
6:30:05 I’ve spent the best part of a day watching this video! I started watching it at 1:50am (had to rewind the video as it started at midnight) and stopped watching it around 3:30am to go sleep and started watching again at 10:16am. I had to stop watching for short periods of time to things but now it’s 22:57pm that’s nearly a full 24hrs.
I've probably posted this on a hundred videos that talked about Sandman but I drank my first (half) beer when Sandman tossed it to me at a house show in Buffalo
@@PhilMiCoochie I could see it happening in 1994, hasn't Bret said him and shawn were good with each other in 1994? Wasn't until 95-'96 until the falling out. That and bret getting the belt opens the door for him to too.
@@PhilMiCoochie I thought that was 95, and a lot of the stuff started boiling at the time of Bret getting the belt back from Nash/diesel at the end of 95.
I never understood people liking soma. The high was shit. Just sleepy and kinda tired. If you are gonna put something in your body for a high fucking go for it and take some opiates for fuck sake. Go big or go home
You know it's funny. I just googled the IRS standards for independent contractors and the first paragraph states "The general rule is that an individual is an independent contractor if the payer has the right to control or direct only the result of the work and not what will be done and how it will be done." So like if anything it sounds like WWE's intense scripting of promos (rather than the old style of improving) and the decline of calling matches in the ring are a big argument against calling their wrestlers contractors anymore lol. According to rule number 1 the management should only get to tell the talent who to cut a promo on and who's gonna go over but not actually scripting segments or laying out matches in detail
Joey styles to me is more synonymous with ecw than most the talent. As a kid seeing the infomercials you would see him all the time. Clips anyways. To the point where I knew him before most of the wrestlers.
I had to look it up because I wasn't unsure myself, but Sullivan was in ECW up until May of 1994. he was also in WCW from January to March during that time. He also was in a one shot in November of 94 as part of a settlement of a copyright infringement lawsuit at the time.
Bischoff is such an enigma to me. He's like a walking contradiction. He gives off the vide of being chronically dishonest, yet he actually tells the truth in a rather objective manner. I'm always entertained when watching or listening to him.
My vibe is that he’s willing to take blame for certain things, and not willing to take blame for others, like him not remembering the favored nations deal with Hall & Nash.
I get Tenta specifically being upset with doing a clean job for Yoko because he also had a career as a legit sumo wrestler so like Yoko would be the one guy who could hurt his drawing power/credibility in sumo
2:46:39 Art Donavon: “How much does that weigh?” Macho Man Randy Savage: “If you had listened when the announcer introduces the wrestlers you would know how much he weighs!”
I know I've probably seen it but is there a WWF time line 92? Well actually 91 I suppose as well.. (Swear I watched that the other day but may have been WCW) because I want to hear about Flair bringing the belt over etc
2:48:55 I remember Piper only did video promos of himself in a trailer most likely on a movie/tv set in his match for King Of The Ring 94. Thought Jerry Lawler did say he was gonna have Roddy Piper as a guest on The King’s Court and it turned out to be this skinny lad no older than 25 who could do quite a good impression of Piper and Lawler took the piss out of him, he would say tell me why do you wear a kilt and the lad said it’s not a kilt it’s a skirt then the lad begged Lawler not to do the match as he was gonna kick his ass so Jerry had him get on his knees and beg while telling Lawler he was better than him, please don’t embarrass him at KOTR but not going through with the match and Lawler said he wouldn’t if he kissed his feet which he did
1:25:38 Jim Ross said Chief Jay Strongbow called X-Pac trailer because he followed Hall and Nash around all the time and also doing stupid shit to get a pop out of them, not because he was always last to the arenas. And what X-Pac basically said just before he said that Strongbow called him trailer with the “It’s show business not show friends” comment
You r right there’s no mitigating factors or power dynamics at play that can keep a contract from being mutually beneficial. Sound as naive as a libertarian.
5:28:53 Ric Flair has his retirement match and 30yrs later Ric Flair is looking to have another match as he felt the match he had 29yrs after his retirement match wasn’t either that good or that he was good enough to have another match. In Eric Bischoff’s words Ric was “Knock, knock, knocking on 50’s door”
And if he decides to have another retirement match this year me and 1000s of others would be glued to it, because he's a once in a generation type entertainer. Something every current pro wrestler should strive to achieve, knowing that they never will.
Hindsight being 20/20; Owen shoulda had a better showing in the rumble. He coulda went 45min and ran when Bret came out. I truly believe that hurt him to get Dieseled. Idk
5:08:05 I’ve seen Jim Cornette talk about the Ole Anderson firing incident Jim said Ole wanted it filmed in the car park (parking lot) of the WCW Power Plant (can’t remember if his son has/was been trained there) and when Jim had the cameras rolling Ole went on camera with his son and when Jim told Ole people were watching from the WCW Power Plant Ole said “good hopefully they’ll fire me”
Am I the only one who found themselves skipping Shane's segments after the first 5 or so? He was just so dry to me, for someone who talks as much as he did he didn't really say a lot. Loved his Youshoot though, but he just missed on Timeline
People shit on eric without looking at the facts, 95 to 99 4 years head to head with wwe and it was pretty even on weeks won over that period. People blame him for wcw demise but they survived another 2 years after Eric's first firing.
3:55 Eric Bischoff auditioned in 1991 for WWE with a broom…was he going for a cleaning job in Titan Towers? No wonder Vince McMahon tried to make it look like Billionaire Ted was kicking his ass for 82 or 83 weeks (whichever it was) during the Monday Night Wars rather than the guy who didn’t even get the cleaning job at Titan Towers 4yrs earlier!
See Sean Waltman talk about meeting a Make A Wish child and see Scott Hall talk about meeting and giving a kid dying of AIDS his Intercontinental title on Jerry Springer is completely different as you can see it effected Sean Waltman far more than it did Scott Hall or maybe like me Hall is just better at hiding his emotions because after traumas that happened early in your life make you hide your emotions well, but you still feel those emotions you just mask them with substance abuse (well that’s what Hall and I both did as well as millions of other people do).
Sean thank you for all the work over the years been watching for years and admit sometimes no so legal with the downloads. Please please give us sandman youshoot out of the vault?.. thank you for the entertainment over the years.
Also Eric it’s hard for a green, German man who speaks with an accent to get over when he’s given a dancing gimmick. They put Virgil in the nWo who didn’t even wrestle in a match while in WCW/nWo so why not put Alex Wright in the nWo or the nWo Wölfpac instead of that useless walking rib Virgil (in WWE he was called Vigil because that’s Dusty Rhodes’s real name and he was Vincent in WCW/nWo because of Vince McMahon. They had Disco Infernal in the nWo Wölfpac who couldn’t wrestle as well as Alex Wright so it’s not like they couldn’t of had him but Eric Bischoff gave him a stupid dancing gimmick which was never gonna get over! Eric gives all these reasons Alex would’ve had trouble getting over so he gives him a bad gimmick to really fuck him over
2:13:38 I have to disagree with Shane when he says Joey Styles is/was the best announcer in wrestling. I’ve heard plenty of his announcing for ECW and I’m rewatching all the old ECW shows on the WWE Network at the moment and to be honest I think he’s crap to put it politely with he does his “OH MY GOD!” scream several times in a show at times which is always said in the exact same way every time and now when watching a show and he does his “OH MY GOD!” shout it really grinds on me. I don’t see what people see in him and it’s always ECW wrestlers who put Joey Styles over as the best announcer it’s never anyone else.
I love Kayfabe commentaries, but... respectfully, i dont have ADHD, I cant watch three different shoots concurrently. I'm still going too. Dont get me wrong but... You're killing me here lol
1:16:59 I’m sorry but there’s no way in February 1994 were shows recorded to stream in high definition over the internet back then! In 94 the internet was brand new, all modems were dialup not broadband and high definition wasn’t in for another 9/10yrs. But even if high definition was a thing in 94 those shows would have to be downloaded (which would’ve taken ages) as the modems/computers couldn’t handle the information needed to stream these recordings of these shows, in fact the internet couldn’t handle even non HD to stream to a computer! I don’t know where they got that information but it sounds like bullshit to me. It’s like me saying that the high end “sports cars” for the road of the 1890’s (or 1900-1910 but I said 1890 as that’s when petrol cars were brand new like the internet was in February 1994) could do at least 180mph with the fastest being able to do 200mph, people would say you’re talking bullshit as it wasn’t until the 1980’s with the Ferrari F40 being the first “road” car that could go 200mph (201mph top speed) followed by the Porsche 959S so it was said as the Porsche 959 did 197mph with the 959 Sport 198mph but Porsche said if it had it’s comforts removed to make it lighter and was left bare like the F40 it would hit the 200mph mark
3:49:08 “Hulk Hogan pinned WCW World Champion Ric Flairto win the title.” Who’s Ric Flairto? Or is it Ric Flair and they just forgot to put a space between Flair and to? 😂
Scott Hall was right, Shane does go On and On and On to the point of exhaustion. Waltman came off as the most genuine and entertaining of all 3, would love to see Pac do some projects like Kliq this with Oliver!
He has been telling the same lies for many years. I have been in bars across America and I have yet to be inside one that was full of kids, not at 2:00 am or any other time of the day.
The clip where Sabu missed the rope flip spot, and it appeared at first like he just missed it….., but then, he holds the knee again that he’d been holding throughout, that his leg was actually injured that made it a great moment. That he would then do it again but because they could seek being beat up they went from something that’s a theatre performance you can half believe it’s more than what it is. It’s an ability to make a person who knows it’s fake in terms of actual violence as in real punches and kicks when if you’ve ever been in a fight you know that’s not how it works, High definition didn’t do any favours for wrestling favours for the people who can’t act. It makes it much harder to out in a good performance. This is what I hate about how wrestling is graded by muppets like meltzer, that for some reason people in America and beyond think of this guy as some kind of “rainman savant” that somehow can grade a matc/performance when he hasn’t gotten a clue it’s a tv series today, it’s now different than rating episode of “friends”. It’s the art of making people watch it as they watch the fight scene in a movie and actually believe they are really fighting, otherwise it’s just stunts… he misses the point, it’s to have us watch to point where we believe ppl do not like each other, “FOR REAL” but still not hurting themselves, so they can on another performance tommorow and after that and after that, especially when time needs to be filled with “spots” things that mean something, it’s cutting the promo that gets you hooked and the repercussions of what some g guy has done and they want us to believer it’s Real …… he just don’t get it, and neither do the acrobats of today…. The knew being hurt made it special and he’d think he just missed it….
It's funny the hard-core fans think hryman and cornette are both opposites but both genius but crap on eric when he is the only one to run a company to beat wwe and make a profit for a few years. Ecw always lost money and smokey mountain barley pulled enough to stay open. Heyman and Cornette both hate eric because of jealousy
I always find it funny when people talk about ECW like a successful company. The company wrestled in front of a few hundred to 4,000ppl a week no one made money, they didn’t have any TV n ppv didn’t sell. Why do ppl talk fondly on the thing is beyond me
From what they started as to where they got they were successful. If you consider what they were right at the beginning in like 92/93. If you compare it to the WWE and WCW then sure it pails in comparison.
It was more successful than you seem to think it was, but it also wasn’t as successful as some make it out to be. If you can regularly sell 1000-4000 tickets that’s a decent chunk of change as long as you can keep your overhead low. There was also merch, TV, and PPV gates that provided additional income on top of the ticket sales. Toward the end Paul was paying their top guys like RVD, Mike Awesome and Justin Credible six figure contracts. Not saying everyone got money like that and at the very end he stopped paying their checks but for a time they were doing ok.
I loved these days... watching Yoko bonzai jobbers was amazing... i know theres a few local dudes he had to of crushed 😂.. watch him bonzai drop a jobber on Raw and then watch him do it to Hogan... the difference was amazing😂
I love those crossovers and it's 2,5 interesting charactters (only 0,5 for Bischoff, as he is interesting to listen to, but too much of a politician in his answers; except when it comes to Jesse Ventura and Honky Tonk Man😁)
@@maxxdahl6062 its kinda my point. It was booming elsewhere and it was abundance of talent. They half assedly brought Bull, then WCW brought Hokuto, Ogura and some others, but it was just a waste of time, dont get why they even bothered in first place
@@funkerman7 Because they were from the place it was supposedly booming at, japanese female wrestlers were never going to get over in the US in that point in time.
The thing about bischoff that I like but also have to keep in mind when listening to him is that he is the biggest fraud in professional wrestling history.. to my knowledge ofc lol So that’s how you get the anarchy that was 95-96 WCW/NWO and also the quickest demise outside of Enron I’ve ever seen in a top tier corporation. So anytime I hear oh I don’t remember on important type questions it’s more likely he doesn’t want to be honest and reveal just how inept, maniacal or manipulating he happen to be in that instance instead of it’s just so far back and sooo many things were happening I just can’t bring myself to try to remember lol But I am appreciative of what he was able to do for the wrestling business for the mid to late nineties into the early 2000’s he sparked the greatest era in wrestling from a global standpoint in my lifetime so I have to salute him by hook or by crook for that 🔥🫡🔥
How's he a fraud? WCW tanked under Russo, and time warner didn't want wrestling, they could have kept it and made it profitable again but felt wrestling was beneath them. He did a lot better job with it than those who came before him. Under Crockett and Dusty they were haemorrhaging money due to bad spending. Eric actually resurrected it.
Hardcore wrestling fans tend to hate on Bischoff but I respect his honesty in regards to him owning his weaknesses. He stikes me as a guy who's true calling in life was being the Harley Davidson CEO and he got kind of close running WCW.
A lot of people forget that Eric is a media man who got involved in wrestling. He has a very different view of the industry than many people growing up within it.
If anything Eric is objective which is a breath of fresh air.
lol, what honesty? the guy even lied about contacting Bret Hart prior to the Screwjob, Hart even called him out on Twitter over that lie. Nothing is ever his fault, nothing was ever his idea, he didn't do nothing, lol. And if he ran Harley Davidson, they would've been bankrupt. After all, Bischoff bankrupted each and every business he ever started, bankrupted Sonny Onoo and even himself twice. He has no idea how a busines works, heck, in one of his shoots it even became obvious the guy doesn't even know what financial terms like EBITDA mean. He's a complete moron, a cuckold (and yes, he is one, he went on trial over it) who is forever stuck in a midlife crisis
@@haroldhall1517 Of course the wrestlers liked Bankrupt Bischoff because they all played him like the biggest moron on the world and sucked all of turner's money out of him and hadn't even work that much since Bischoff never understood the purpose of House Shows at all.
6:30:05 I’ve spent the best part of a day watching this video! I started watching it at 1:50am (had to rewind the video as it started at midnight) and stopped watching it around 3:30am to go sleep and started watching again at 10:16am. I had to stop watching for short periods of time to things but now it’s 22:57pm that’s nearly a full 24hrs.
I've probably posted this on a hundred videos that talked about Sandman but I drank my first (half) beer when Sandman tossed it to me at a house show in Buffalo
The idea that Shawn Michaels had any part in convincing VKM to put the belt on Bret is amazing really
Shawn might not have liked Bret but he knew what the crowd wanted and knew what was good for business, all 4 of them(Kliq) knew
@@PhilMiCoochie I could see it happening in 1994, hasn't Bret said him and shawn were good with each other in 1994? Wasn't until 95-'96 until the falling out. That and bret getting the belt opens the door for him to too.
Voodoo Kin Mafia was all over it Brother give yourself a piledriver and call it a day brotherrrrrr
@@maxxdahl6062 I think mid 94 was when Shawn was going out of his way to make it known he was jealous and didn’t like Bret.
@@PhilMiCoochie I thought that was 95, and a lot of the stuff started boiling at the time of Bret getting the belt back from Nash/diesel at the end of 95.
I’m so pumped for this got I went ahead and too 10 somas
I haven't seen any of those in years lol
I never understood people liking soma. The high was shit. Just sleepy and kinda tired. If you are gonna put something in your body for a high fucking go for it and take some opiates for fuck sake. Go big or go home
@@jobiec420they don’t make ‘em anymore lol
Should of took 34..
You would fall asleep then and miss it lol
You know it's funny. I just googled the IRS standards for independent contractors and the first paragraph states "The general rule is that an individual is an independent contractor if the payer has the right to control or direct only the result of the work and not what will be done and how it will be done."
So like if anything it sounds like WWE's intense scripting of promos (rather than the old style of improving) and the decline of calling matches in the ring are a big argument against calling their wrestlers contractors anymore lol. According to rule number 1 the management should only get to tell the talent who to cut a promo on and who's gonna go over but not actually scripting segments or laying out matches in detail
Joey styles to me is more synonymous with ecw than most the talent. As a kid seeing the infomercials you would see him all the time. Clips anyways. To the point where I knew him before most of the wrestlers.
OH MY GOD
Eric always talks like he’s in a fucking deposition lol. How many times has this man been sued
*You're confusing that with him being a liar, fraud and conman. Which he is.*
I hate how these are all mixed together, I really wish these were all in their original form..
U know what I wish??? Can Sean at least put the phucking year the interview took place!!!! I mean geezus.
@@mechagojira6951he's giving this away for free stop bitching
Funny how the Kliq hate Shane Douglas yet him and Shawn Michaels have the same sounding voice
Kevin Sullivan was in ECW in 1994? I thought he was in WCW then
I had to look it up because I wasn't unsure myself, but Sullivan was in ECW up until May of 1994. he was also in WCW from January to March during that time. He also was in a one shot in November of 94 as part of a settlement of a copyright infringement lawsuit at the time.
Bischoff is such an enigma to me. He's like a walking contradiction. He gives off the vide of being chronically dishonest, yet he actually tells the truth in a rather objective manner. I'm always entertained when watching or listening to him.
My vibe is that he’s willing to take blame for certain things, and not willing to take blame for others, like him not remembering the favored nations deal with Hall & Nash.
*He's been proven to be a habitual liar. Both Dave Meltzer and Bret Hart have exposed what a lying fraud and conman he is.*
Soma coma hell of a ride
👍
I cant stop watching these pry 3rd time now lbvs
Sean’s the man
He really is a cool dude. And I'm not a fanboy of people like that either. But he always seems genuine and down to earth.
I get Tenta specifically being upset with doing a clean job for Yoko because he also had a career as a legit sumo wrestler so like Yoko would be the one guy who could hurt his drawing power/credibility in sumo
So he went to WCW and became a Shark - -
for a lot of money tho 💰
Joey Styles being called a good announcer, much less the greatest ever, is hilarious.
2:46:39 Art Donavon: “How much does that weigh?”
Macho Man Randy Savage: “If you had listened when the announcer introduces the wrestlers you would know how much he weighs!”
05:34:00 Yep, my meds do that to my mates it MESSES THE UP! It's funny as F....
I know I've probably seen it but is there a WWF time line 92? Well actually 91 I suppose as well.. (Swear I watched that the other day but may have been WCW) because I want to hear about Flair bringing the belt over etc
I think there's a Bret one of 92/93. Not sure about 91/92.
This was a good one
Bill watts debacle = wcws best years to me
Then I have a can of paint you can watch age over time
2:48:55 I remember Piper only did video promos of himself in a trailer most likely on a movie/tv set in his match for King Of The Ring 94. Thought Jerry Lawler did say he was gonna have Roddy Piper as a guest on The King’s Court and it turned out to be this skinny lad no older than 25 who could do quite a good impression of Piper and Lawler took the piss out of him, he would say tell me why do you wear a kilt and the lad said it’s not a kilt it’s a skirt then the lad begged Lawler not to do the match as he was gonna kick his ass so Jerry had him get on his knees and beg while telling Lawler he was better than him, please don’t embarrass him at KOTR but not going through with the match and Lawler said he wouldn’t if he kissed his feet which he did
As long as i dont have to listen to Todd Gordons ramble talk about the sandman im in
1:25:38 Jim Ross said Chief Jay Strongbow called X-Pac trailer because he followed Hall and Nash around all the time and also doing stupid shit to get a pop out of them, not because he was always last to the arenas. And what X-Pac basically said just before he said that Strongbow called him trailer with the “It’s show business not show friends” comment
This (at least Bischoff's part) was shot in 2016.
Talent exchange was a settlement .Paul E proved he was wrongfully terminated by WCW. WCW paid in talent instead of money
Love the vidoes and the channel but putting Sunnys youshoot up is really poor considering what shes done lately
A contract is agreed upon. Don't sign a contract that isn't mutually beneficial
You r right there’s no mitigating factors or power dynamics at play that can keep a contract from being mutually beneficial.
Sound as naive as a libertarian.
5:28:53 Ric Flair has his retirement match and 30yrs later Ric Flair is looking to have another match as he felt the match he had 29yrs after his retirement match wasn’t either that good or that he was good enough to have another match. In Eric Bischoff’s words Ric was “Knock, knock, knocking on 50’s door”
And if he decides to have another retirement match this year me and 1000s of others would be glued to it, because he's a once in a generation type entertainer. Something every current pro wrestler should strive to achieve, knowing that they never will.
Hindsight being 20/20; Owen shoulda had a better showing in the rumble. He coulda went 45min and ran when Bret came out. I truly believe that hurt him to get Dieseled. Idk
Did they fix where you can't play videos in the vault and close your phone screen?? I'll sign right back up if they did.
RUclips has not fixed it in app.
The workaround is to open RUclips in your phone's browser
5:08:05 I’ve seen Jim Cornette talk about the Ole Anderson firing incident Jim said Ole wanted it filmed in the car park (parking lot) of the WCW Power Plant (can’t remember if his son has/was been trained there) and when Jim had the cameras rolling Ole went on camera with his son and when Jim told Ole people were watching from the WCW Power Plant Ole said “good hopefully they’ll fire me”
What I wanna know is what was on TNT's time slot at the time Nitro replaced it
Am I the only one who found themselves skipping Shane's segments after the first 5 or so? He was just so dry to me, for someone who talks as much as he did he didn't really say a lot. Loved his Youshoot though, but he just missed on Timeline
People shit on eric without looking at the facts, 95 to 99 4 years head to head with wwe and it was pretty even on weeks won over that period. People blame him for wcw demise but they survived another 2 years after Eric's first firing.
Eric is a P.O.S if you don't have the ability to read between the lines and lies then you really are a mark in all aspects of life.
3:55 Eric Bischoff auditioned in 1991 for WWE with a broom…was he going for a cleaning job in Titan Towers? No wonder Vince McMahon tried to make it look like Billionaire Ted was kicking his ass for 82 or 83 weeks (whichever it was) during the Monday Night Wars rather than the guy who didn’t even get the cleaning job at Titan Towers 4yrs earlier!
See Sean Waltman talk about meeting a Make A Wish child and see Scott Hall talk about meeting and giving a kid dying of AIDS his Intercontinental title on Jerry Springer is completely different as you can see it effected Sean Waltman far more than it did Scott Hall or maybe like me Hall is just better at hiding his emotions because after traumas that happened early in your life make you hide your emotions well, but you still feel those emotions you just mask them with substance abuse (well that’s what Hall and I both did as well as millions of other people do).
And Sean as well…used drugs to cope.
Sean thank you for all the work over the years been watching for years and admit sometimes no so legal with the downloads. Please please give us sandman youshoot out of the vault?.. thank you for the entertainment over the years.
Eric is without doubt the Saul Goodman of the wrestling world.
That's definitely Heyman over Bischoff.
Also Eric it’s hard for a green, German man who speaks with an accent to get over when he’s given a dancing gimmick. They put Virgil in the nWo who didn’t even wrestle in a match while in WCW/nWo so why not put Alex Wright in the nWo or the nWo Wölfpac instead of that useless walking rib Virgil (in WWE he was called Vigil because that’s Dusty Rhodes’s real name and he was Vincent in WCW/nWo because of Vince McMahon. They had Disco Infernal in the nWo Wölfpac who couldn’t wrestle as well as Alex Wright so it’s not like they couldn’t of had him but Eric Bischoff gave him a stupid dancing gimmick which was never gonna get over! Eric gives all these reasons Alex would’ve had trouble getting over so he gives him a bad gimmick to really fuck him over
5:57:27 Eric Bischoff’s wife won’t let him have a cheque book as she saw what happened when he had Ted Turner’s cheque book
Anyone know what year these were filmed in?
Between 2010 and 2013
Eric "I don't recall" Bischoff
2:13:38 I have to disagree with Shane when he says Joey Styles is/was the best announcer in wrestling. I’ve heard plenty of his announcing for ECW and I’m rewatching all the old ECW shows on the WWE Network at the moment and to be honest I think he’s crap to put it politely with he does his “OH MY GOD!” scream several times in a show at times which is always said in the exact same way every time and now when watching a show and he does his “OH MY GOD!” shout it really grinds on me. I don’t see what people see in him and it’s always ECW wrestlers who put Joey Styles over as the best announcer it’s never anyone else.
Not only that, Styles was clearly given booking sheets like all other commentators. How else would he call something like the Van Terminator?
I love Kayfabe commentaries, but... respectfully, i dont have ADHD, I cant watch three different shoots concurrently. I'm still going too. Dont get me wrong but... You're killing me here lol
Also wouldn't telling us the year the interview took place be good too...I know zany and kooky huh Sean Oliver??
1:16:59 I’m sorry but there’s no way in February 1994 were shows recorded to stream in high definition over the internet back then! In 94 the internet was brand new, all modems were dialup not broadband and high definition wasn’t in for another 9/10yrs. But even if high definition was a thing in 94 those shows would have to be downloaded (which would’ve taken ages) as the modems/computers couldn’t handle the information needed to stream these recordings of these shows, in fact the internet couldn’t handle even non HD to stream to a computer! I don’t know where they got that information but it sounds like bullshit to me. It’s like me saying that the high end “sports cars” for the road of the 1890’s (or 1900-1910 but I said 1890 as that’s when petrol cars were brand new like the internet was in February 1994) could do at least 180mph with the fastest being able to do 200mph, people would say you’re talking bullshit as it wasn’t until the 1980’s with the Ferrari F40 being the first “road” car that could go 200mph (201mph top speed) followed by the Porsche 959S so it was said as the Porsche 959 did 197mph with the 959 Sport 198mph but Porsche said if it had it’s comforts removed to make it lighter and was left bare like the F40 it would hit the 200mph mark
As a wrestling fan, you learn to just enjoy the story lol
It’s high def in the same sense the Sega Genesis had high definition graphics
@@OtakuAnthony it wouldnt have been possible even at lower resolution, let alone HD
How in the hell did they have any idea how to even think about high definition streaming in 1994? ROH couldn’t even do that right in the 2010s lol😂
3:49:08 “Hulk Hogan pinned WCW World Champion Ric Flairto win the title.” Who’s Ric Flairto? Or is it Ric Flair and they just forgot to put a space between Flair and to? 😂
Classic Xpac
Scott Hall was right, Shane does go On and On and On to the point of exhaustion. Waltman came off as the most genuine and entertaining of all 3, would love to see Pac do some projects like Kliq this with Oliver!
X-Pac aka Syxx aka 123 Lightning Cannonbal Kamikaze Kid aka Sean Waltman aka "I Was There"
He has been telling the same lies for many years.
I have been in bars across America and I have yet to be inside one that was full of kids, not at 2:00 am or any other time of the day.
The clip where Sabu missed the rope flip spot, and it appeared at first like he just missed it….., but then, he holds the knee again that he’d been holding throughout, that his leg was actually injured that made it a great moment.
That he would then do it again but because they could seek being beat up they went from something that’s a theatre performance you can half believe it’s more than what it is.
It’s an ability to make a person who knows it’s fake in terms of actual violence as in real punches and kicks when if you’ve ever been in a fight you know that’s not how it works, High definition didn’t do any favours for wrestling favours for the people who can’t act.
It makes it much harder to out in a good performance.
This is what I hate about how wrestling is graded by muppets like meltzer, that for some reason people in America and beyond think of this guy as some kind of “rainman savant” that somehow can grade a matc/performance when he hasn’t gotten a clue it’s a tv series today, it’s now different than rating episode of “friends”.
It’s the art of making people watch it as they watch the fight scene in a movie and actually believe they are really fighting, otherwise it’s just stunts… he misses the point, it’s to have us watch to point where we believe ppl do not like each other, “FOR REAL” but still not hurting themselves, so they can on another performance tommorow and after that and after that, especially when time needs to be filled with “spots” things that mean something, it’s cutting the promo that gets you hooked and the repercussions of what some g guy has done and they want us to believer it’s Real …… he just don’t get it, and neither do the acrobats of today…. The knew being hurt made it special and he’d think he just missed it….
It's funny the hard-core fans think hryman and cornette are both opposites but both genius but crap on eric when he is the only one to run a company to beat wwe and make a profit for a few years. Ecw always lost money and smokey mountain barley pulled enough to stay open. Heyman and Cornette both hate eric because of jealousy
Lmao yea ok 🤣🤣
I always find it funny when people talk about ECW like a successful company. The company wrestled in front of a few hundred to 4,000ppl a week no one made money, they didn’t have any TV n ppv didn’t sell. Why do ppl talk fondly on the thing is beyond me
Aew is the same way,yet some people think they're successful too.Sometimes people just view things from a different lens.A lens with a cover on it
From what they started as to where they got they were successful. If you consider what they were right at the beginning in like 92/93. If you compare it to the WWE and WCW then sure it pails in comparison.
It was more successful than you seem to think it was, but it also wasn’t as successful as some make it out to be. If you can regularly sell 1000-4000 tickets that’s a decent chunk of change as long as you can keep your overhead low. There was also merch, TV, and PPV gates that provided additional income on top of the ticket sales. Toward the end Paul was paying their top guys like RVD, Mike Awesome and Justin Credible six figure contracts. Not saying everyone got money like that and at the very end he stopped paying their checks but for a time they were doing ok.
I loved these days... watching Yoko bonzai jobbers was amazing... i know theres a few local dudes he had to of crushed 😂.. watch him bonzai drop a jobber on Raw and then watch him do it to Hogan... the difference was amazing😂
3:08:10 dude, Flair literally said in every promo that's the shit he was doing or going to do. That's Flair
A bar full of kids? Does he mean midgets?
Too much at once, three????
I love those crossovers and it's 2,5 interesting charactters (only 0,5 for Bischoff, as he is interesting to listen to, but too much of a politician in his answers; except when it comes to Jesse Ventura and Honky Tonk Man😁)
Shane is so full of crap, never been a small heel guy before him lol Mark. You were a knockoff ric flair 😅😅
29:19 too bad Sting didn’t make the WWF jump cause he would have outshined Brett all day.
sting vs taker would of been fire
Does Waltman talk about womens division and whatever they were half assing there? Looking back that was the biggest miss of mid 90s WWF
They were never going to feature women seriously. Hell at that point there wasn't much out there stateside.
no wants watch broads wrestle unless its mud wrestling 😂
@@maxxdahl6062 its kinda my point. It was booming elsewhere and it was abundance of talent. They half assedly brought Bull, then WCW brought Hokuto, Ogura and some others, but it was just a waste of time, dont get why they even bothered in first place
@@funkerman7 Because they were from the place it was supposedly booming at, japanese female wrestlers were never going to get over in the US in that point in time.
@@maxxdahl6062 thats Cap.
The thing about bischoff that I like but also have to keep in mind when listening to him is that he is the biggest fraud in professional wrestling history.. to my knowledge ofc lol
So that’s how you get the anarchy that was 95-96 WCW/NWO and also the quickest demise outside of Enron I’ve ever seen in a top tier corporation.
So anytime I hear oh I don’t remember on important type questions it’s more likely he doesn’t want to be honest and reveal just how inept, maniacal or manipulating he happen to be in that instance instead of it’s just so far back and sooo many things were happening I just can’t bring myself to try to remember lol
But I am appreciative of what he was able to do for the wrestling business for the mid to late nineties into the early 2000’s he sparked the greatest era in wrestling from a global standpoint in my lifetime so I have to salute him by hook or by crook for that 🔥🫡🔥
*Maggot Bischoff is a proven habitual liar, fraud and conman. Both Bret Hart and Dave Meltzer have exposed the slimeball for what he is.*
How's he a fraud? WCW tanked under Russo, and time warner didn't want wrestling, they could have kept it and made it profitable again but felt wrestling was beneath them. He did a lot better job with it than those who came before him. Under Crockett and Dusty they were haemorrhaging money due to bad spending. Eric actually resurrected it.
PP Wonga