Great and informative about a niche subject. My knowledge of ancient Cypriot history was- 1) lots of copper 2) Caesar gave it back to Cleopatra I had no idea they squeezed 10 kingdoms on that thing. Thanks for being the best new history channel on YT!
Love this one! There is so much history in all these places and it’s great to see someone cover the lesser-known ones. If you haven’t already I would love to see one like this on Rhodes over time - really interesting history and some amazing stories from ancient to classical times, and then the site of two of the greatest sieges in the Med in the 15th and 16th centuries. Thanks for the great video!
I used to have a Archaeology magazine article that told how around 4000 yrs ago Cyprus ( before Phoenicians and Greeks there ) was like an exotic ancient island subculture as they lived to be disconnected from anything happening in the mainland .. was intentional ,not accidental . They were intelligent to have a well planned subcultural civilization there . If they seemed primitive it was only because they were richly exotic compared to changes on the mainlands . They in this sense are maybe like an ancient partly remote island people like the south Pacific islands were once more so before being modernized . This is in ways very unique with Cyprus in those old ,old days. Really think this thru to see why that can be . Cyprus had it's own unique culture , broke off from mainland , once ! In these things I wish I can obtain extreme deep details . I don't settle for surface like sensations and do go way beyond that . I love topics and curiously search hard if I'm able .. beyond what Cy does it appears .
This is such an exciting topic and I don’t think I’ve ever seen it covered before on RUclips, excellent video as usual Cy, keep up dude you’re doing a great job!
Thanks so much for the feedback, I really appreciate it! Cyprus is a really unique place...small, but I feel that in a sense a microcosm of the Mediterranean world, at least in ancient times. All of the major regional powers had an interest as well as influence there, so I thought that'd be interesting to explore further in a short video. Glad you liked it! More to come soon, stay tuned and thanks for stopping by!
I've recently stumbled upon this hidden gem of a channel and am currently binge watching everything. Tbh, this content is way too underrated. Keep up the great work!
So many kingdoms for such a small island ..it is of great interest to me as it's where my roots are and where I currently live .Would love to know more as there is so little information on RUclips about Ancient Cyprus .
The history of Cyprus is much older. In fact, the first recorded naval battles happened here between the Hittites and Cyprians/Cypriots. There were two naval battles and one land battle in which the Hittites won and took over Cyprus.
Yeah he's a great storyteller. One of my favorites (and more bizarre) is the one about Cambyses' army using dead cats to defeat the Egyptians... when I first read that, I was like "what??" As always, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it!
Hey Cy another great video man im so happy your keeping up with the channel you really satisfy my history addiction. Anyway I wana ask if you will ever do a history series on Phonecia they are probably one of if not the most important yet heavenly underrated ancient civilizations. I'm sure you aware of that i need not futher explain!
Oh for sure, working on two projects for that... one short video and another podcast series... a lot of history for Canaan coming soon... thanks for the suggestion! Hope all is well on your end and stay tuned!
Thank you very much for your research and effort, Cy! I used to work in Cyprus. Paphos is still referred to "old City and a new city" areas, due to the earth quake. Curium, further north, on the coast, has an ancient ampatheater, where they still have Shakspearian plays. I was also in Cyprus during a serious earth quake in the mid 90's. It was pretty scary. You said there was a ruler, named "Kipre-on" (Spelled phonetically)? "Kipre-o" is how Greeks refer to the island today. In Greek, "Kipre-o" means "Copper." Thanks again!
I follow all the major history channels on youtube how come i am just coming across this? RUclips needs to update their algorithm 😅 Great video! Instant subscribe.
Great video. Interesting fact, Citium was the birthplace of Zeno of Citium who was the founder of Stoicism which was the most influential philosophical school of the Roman Empire up until Christianity.
Thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it! Yeah, Onesilos is an interesting guy...one of the many who appear in Herodotus' work. Not sure I totally believe the final part of his story, but interesting nevertheless. I think one day I'll do a series on my favorite stories from Herodotus... thanks again!
@@HistorywithCy I just want to believe that story...so I will Its slightly more believable than Herodotus story about gold digging ants (and who doesn't believe that)
m D stanton m D stanton Exactly what you are supposed to think! See, the Ants knew they couldn’t get away with being completely unnoticed forever, even if the personal stealth research program was successful. So what to do? For an ancient, sentient, and cunning hive-mind like the ants, you do this: (1) activate your network of agents; in this case it is the countless billions of the ants’ more mundane (and, frankly, quite primitive) cousins living (literally) under the feet of civilization. (2) use them to keep track of anyone suspected of learning about the ants. (3) similarly, identify and track the very rare intellectual who seems likely to actually write down things like “history” or “travelers tales”. (4) Then, through millions of small but additive little actions, instigated by the ants but carried out by other, unwitting animals and even humans ... slowly and gently influence both groups to ensure they always come together. This ensures that anytime a “Herodotus” arises and writes a book, it is so full of fantastic and unbelievable stories, including the “one about gold-digging ants”, it os lost amid the crowd. They are smart, those gold-digging ants. And must have upped their game over the centuries; I mean you don’t even *hear* about supposed sightings anymore. And I can’t prove it, but when “viral marketing” was invented ... I thought the deviousness and misdirection was just a little too familiar. Also the gold market is periodically flooded with huge amounts of gold bullion by anonymous, digital brokers working for what always turn out to be shell companies for non-existent gold mines in Greenland.
......."and being Herodotus one has to take it with a large grain of salt"...........LOL......or perhaps the entire Nevada salt flats......lovin this channel........great work as usual.Thanks tons.(And NOT in salt.)
Hahaha that's funny. He's got some really great stories, I'll give him that. I also believe that his intention was to be more or less honest, but when you add his propensity to exaggerate along with all the hearsay he was hearing, well, I think it's natural that the truth would get convoluted in his writings. As always, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it!
@@HistorywithCy more than a pleasure to stop by and comment if for no other reason than to boost youre engagement for the algorithm so you can get the subs you deserve least i can do to repay you for your fantastic content given im flat broke and cant donate to Paetreon really Edit: wow you don't seem to have a Paetreon that I can find which given the work in these vids seems unfair. Whilst I said I was broke it wouldn't be much but to encourage you Cy if you launch one I would be honoured to be one of your first supporters but 7-10$ a month is the most i can afford so it would be more symbolic than anything
@@Eamonshort1 Wow, thanks so much for the kind words and feedback, comments like this really inspire me to put out more stuff for you all. It's funny, you're not the first to offer to help fund the show via patreon, paypal or even bitcoin (Lol I don't even have a bitcoin wallet). Honestly, I'm so flattered that people would pay for this stuff and maybe yeah, I'll set up the respective accounts one day. I don't know though what extra perks I could offer... I like having all the content available for everyone...that's kind of my purpose, to provide historical content that many around the world may not have access to. I'll definitely think about it because most of the other channels do have patreon accounts so I guess it's become a standard way to fund their channels. I did have this one idea of having book giveaways and other prizes for viewers, and maybe patreon or other sources could fund that. Let's see... Honestly though, the greatest way that viewers can support the channel is by watching and liking the videos, which honestly I'm more than grateful that people like you are doing. THAT means the world to me. Thanks again for the support, I'll definitely look further into it. All the best!
@@HistorywithCy History with Cy a book give away would legit be a good idea and also i dont have much to give to my fav creators so id rather give it to someone who puts in the work but doesnt get the credit they deserve. And yeah whilst i have been thouroghly flattered to have you reply to me really ive just been commenting on things because it boosts you in the algo and also i know atleast 3 of your subs are mates of mine i got in because i cant imagine how much passion you must have to do all this and not ask for anything. I dont know about patreon but i know i could easily help you set up a paypal.me for people who want to give one off donations when they can tou chuck in your discription with your social media info and stuff and let people know at the end of each vid its in the description Edit: also it was me complaining about the audio on old eps and you went right to saying youd fix it which takes effort so I feel like i owe ya, honestly right now its 430am in australia in nearing 48 hours without sleep and channels like yours keep me sane so id rather go one less coffee a week and kick a few bucks in but again i know it wouldnt be much but more to prove to you there are people out here who would do that and id rather have that set up for so that when you reach 100k subs youre not forced to do raid shadowlands sponsorships (he said only half joking) also i cant help set up bitcoin wallet because its locked to a physical computer but its pretty easy just annoying that itll take up to a couple of days for the blocks to sink with your wallet
Much later on parts of Cyprus were ruled by the Egyptians -a fact few people know -and what I mean by "Egyptian" is the Greco-Macedonian Ptolemaic dynasty which ruled Egypt from about 300 BC to about 50BC (approx.) There are tombs in Cyprus from this era.The Ptolemaic Egyptians also ruled substantial parts of the mainland opposite Cyprus (the region of Cilicia)When Mark Antony met Cleopatra on that famous golden barge as described by Shakespeare it was not,I believe, on the river Nile but on the river Pyramos which is in the region of Cilicia(south east Turkey)Their fleet was also based on some of the Aegean islands like Cos.
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Yes, that's very true... I think I mentioned some of the Ptolemies who were active on the island. More to come, thanks again for stopping by and stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy The reason I know is because I am A BAROQUE opera buff -especially the operas of George Frederick Handel -one of his operas TOLOMEO is set in Cyprus during this era.I have a DVD of the opera and it has been performed recently -there are portions of this opera on RUclips featuring the sensational young Polish counter tenor Jakob Orlinski.
Great video and very informative about one of the most important islands in the Mediterranean! At 9:13, you mention that Ktion was established by Phoenicians who called it "Qart Hadasht." However, that was the name the Phoenicians gave to Carthage, located in modern day Tunisia. Carthage = Qart Hadasht meaning "New City."
Hi, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it! Yes, you are correct... there were actually a few "Kart Hadashts" that have been discovered. Carthage is the most famous one but I've read that even the city of Cartagena in Spain was also once called Kart Hadasht. I supposed there could have been multiple cities with the same name, just like today we have London, UK as well as London, Ontario in Canada. Just my thoughts... thanks so much for the comment, I really appreciate it!
Thank you. From school I had noticed that the number of ancient kingdoms varied. It is good to know the sources that list them. I noticed that you mention the island was known as Alassia, but there is not a city or a kingdom with that name. It would be very interesting to watch also a video on the ancient names of Cyprus. From what I remember Makaria and Aeria are some of them...
You see. Knowing that the island of Cyprus was HEAVELY influenced by the Phoenicians, gives the whole "Aphrodite was born in the shores of Cyprus" myth a far greater hystorical and anthropological meaning. Aphrodite is just an ellenised version of the goddess Astarte. Wich eventualy reached the shores of Greece and gained a new identity. Prior to this, there was no mention of the goddess in pre-classical greece. So, the myth of the birth of Aphrodite is literaly a miticization of real hystorical events that signified the union of two cultures into one. HOW FASCINATING IS THAT!!!!??? ✨✨✨ I LOVE when ancient cultures do this kind of stuff. It makes the myths feel more real. And makes us, by extention, more closer to those ancient times on an emotional level. Maybe it's just me. But these ordeals make me feel all fuzzy inside.
Haha, no it's not just you... I feel the same when when I make such connections, though I hadn't with regard to what you just brought up. It's one of those light bulb or eureka moments. As always, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it!
@@cloudwaveASMRsleepsounds Dionysus is actualy a native greek god. He was worshipped even prior to the classical era of greek history, during the bronze age. He is one of the older gods, his name was found in a text written in linear B, alongside other gods like Poseidon and Persephone. Hironicaly, the greeks decided to claim that he is a forein god because they grew ashamed of it, kinda. His cult was insane, and greek moralists of the classical era were not into that. Why did they claim he was a forein god? Ever noticed that all the weird practices, monsters, etc in greek mithology live outside of mainland Greece? That is because the Greeks viewed themselves as the bringers of culture, superior to all other cultures. They were not racists. They were just... Meh... Look. Ancient greek cities barely managed to relate with each other. How do you think they would relate to other cultures. They did not understand them. The world was smaller back then. And the average greek never met an egyptian, or a jew, or a phoenician. They only heared of them, and the rest were stereotipes and fiction. So yeah. Dionysus was creepy, and insane, and many other things. So they claimed he was a forein god cause they felt better this way. 🤷 His character changed a lot thruought history tho. Pre classical Dionysus was a whole different beast than classic Dionysus. Still an interesting story tho. Makes you think about the ancient greeks mindset and view of the world.
You're way wrong aphrodite is a native Greek and anatolian Goddess with little similarities to astarte other than love deities. She is ever present in both predark age Greece via before 1000 bce and strong mycenae era 2500 bce to 1700 bce. You ar ees way wrong it's the opposite astarte got influence from aphrodite instead. You got it backwards wards my misinformed friends.
As a Cypriot, I appreciate this a LOT Cyprus has such an interesting history, which we learn about quite well in school About the Kingdoms, about Hellenization, even about the Cypro-Minoan and way later the Cypriot syllabary based on the Linear A We also learn that, while not Greek, Cyprus spoke Greek, as well as its own Eteocypriot until Hellenization We also learn of the lesser but still true Phoenician influence Of course we didn't learn it under some of these names because it's too complicated but still We learn about Onesilos who is a legend here, and I live in a village whose football team is named after him Although, we don't know much about the minor city states like Soloi and Idalio, we learn some stuff about Salamina, Paphos, Kition and maybe Amathus, Lidra (because Nicosia) and Tamassos (because Copper) and Lapethos, which was quote important and you forgot about it So, thank you for your work
Visiting Odessa in Ukraine I thought I'd stop over and have a look at a local museum. To my astonishment, it had ancient artefacts from Cyprus, my country. Cited in the video are exhibits from foreign museums. But none from a local one, if I'm not mistaken. From the Metropolitan Museum in New York to the British Museum, to the Louvre and beyond. Even the Swedes "shop lifted" in the 30's ancient pieces of art packed in 600 crates. Licensed by the British. Not much evidence eh? Of course, removed and scattered, much of which sitting in basements. But I wonder. Is it possible that ancients manuscripts have been stolen also? It can't be only statues, statuettes, pottery and such stuff. Further. It seems that earthquakes were very devastating back then. That is the reason given commonly in such like videos. Well listen. The "earthquake" was one. And it came by decrees. The memory had to be erased for the new player in town to take root. So the island of beauty became the island of "saints". The heritage of this island is predominantly Greek. The Trojan War took place much earlier than cited in "history" books today. If it is "troubled" history you are looking for, look no further than the Mediterranean basin and surrounding lands. Alexander was not a conqueror. If he was looking for lands why not Europe? Because Europe was already Macedonia. His expedition was global, stopped short by treason and assassination.
08:00 Had to replay it, because you said it so matter-of-factly that I dismissed it the first time. Then I was like “I’m sorry, what now” LOL Your pronunciation skills have unlocked a trophy in Epic Level Historian 😁
I live in Tamassos and I have ancient markings in my house which was once a palace. It was Called Tamesi in the Assyrian Age. The greatest armies ruled here. Someone from another dimension is writing out a message for me............will history repeat itself?
sunday 1 august dear doctor milti ioannides you would love this history of cyprus/ thank you for taking me to nicosia museum/ i hope they start to show this in their museum to help promote the island amazing history
My pleasure, thank you for stopping by, really appreciate it! I'll do more on Cyprus in future, especially during medieval times. Thanks again and stay safe!
Were they even kingdoms? Some of them would have less than 10k people, they are basically tribes and it's doubtful their central settlement was even urban.
Cy you need look to see that many want existing ( there is if you look well ) possible lengthy details on Cyprus of over 5000 years ago since there is a large pre-Greek and pre-Phoenician story of intently well exotic and unique island culture stuff existing totally before later connections to the mainland . My point is there were exotic island peoples like today's recent New Guinea and Melanesia style things paralleling the fact if almost left unreached island cultures of spears and arrows or darts or rough wood shields or hunting bands and so on . Please try to elaborate in full length on such things ..somethings are for the simple pleasure and enjoyment of history .. not a politics that only allows certain stuff said . Tell it fully in detail leaving not a jot or tittle out . Just saying . These very ,very old things are immensely incredible to discover and muse and think upon .
Max Muller have identified Kittim with the land of Hatti (Khatti), as the Hittite Empire was known. and Kittim (Hebrew: כִּתִּים, alternately transliterated as Chittim or Cethim) in the genealogy of Genesis 10 in the Hebrew Bible, is the son of Javan, the grandson of Japheth, and Noah's great-grandson.
Those Turks Cypriot are friendly with Kurdish and they prefer marriage with Kurdish than Turkish and I as Kurdish I was meeting a lots of Turk Cypriot and one of them saying the turk Cypriot are Kurdish origin and converted to turk during Othman conquest and they was Alavi-Shia Islam and there are no historical evidence to show when they was placed there or by which empire , however we Kurdish not considered them as Kurdish and we don’t have any historical evidence showing Kurdish migration or part of land in Cyprus but if Greek or Cyprus has any historical evidence about it it’s time to kick out turkey and united island plus first mistrial government for those Kurdish origin,
Hi, thanks for the feedback... do you mean that the voice isn't clear or the music is too loud? Any feedback would be great so that I can make these better in future. Thanks!
@@HistorywithCy that person never responded, but maybe turn down the gain, set your peaks lower. Whatever it was, your vid on Sumerian kings last week sounded much better.
Back then the most patriotic Greeks were on Cyprus and to this day the most patriotic Greeks are still on Cyprus Also Evagoras was one of the greatest kings to rule the island abd he also went beyond it too
History with CY can you making video about Cyprus people origins for both Turk Cypriot and Greek Cypriot, I was been told by Turk Cypriot them origin is Kurdish not Turkish please
Hi, thanks for stopping by! I actually did one some time back, but I might do an extended podcast on the subject soon, perhaps this summer. Thanks for the suggestion!
Phoenician did not stay long in Cyprus.They return back to Tyre after 70 years the same years as the Jews return to their homeland from from the Babylon.
The Canannites ,before they were overran by the Semitic tribes ,coming out of Mesopotamia,Syria were Greeks from Crete and some Agean islands.after this time they were mixed with the invaders.
@@tassiek2450 The Canaanites were Greek ?! I'm curious to know were u know this from ! Now Canaanites are basically half Caucasian as shown recently, the other half being the inhabitants of the Levant at that time (still unknown) ! Doubt it would be Greek since that would make the Canaanites purely non Semitic (which is not true) ! Though Greeks & Canaanites(Phoenicians) did intermingle ! Many Phoenicians lived in Greece & vice versa (which is why u'd find a bit of each's DNA in the other)
@@primatalogico1162 the Cannnanites you refer about ,yes I agree with you .they were Half Caucasian or not even half..but the first colonizers to the land were Cretans( greeks) and from the Agean basin.the were overran eventually by the invading semetic tribes from Mesopotamia,Syria and my assumption even northern Arabia.most were exterminatedthe rest were forcibly or willingly assimilated..my assumption.
I'm Greek Cyprian and from Cyprus, Greece. Herodotus told history way better than you, indeed. All you talk about is Persian. Persian this. Persian that. Persian. Persian. Persian.
Great and informative about a niche subject. My knowledge of ancient Cypriot history was-
1) lots of copper
2) Caesar gave it back to Cleopatra
I had no idea they squeezed 10 kingdoms on that thing.
Thanks for being the best new history channel on YT!
A brief history of a much troubled island till this very day....thank you and continued success to the channel.
Thanks so much for your good wishes and for stopping by, I really appreciate it!
Love this one! There is so much history in all these places and it’s great to see someone cover the lesser-known ones. If you haven’t already I would love to see one like this on Rhodes over time - really interesting history and some amazing stories from ancient to classical times, and then the site of two of the greatest sieges in the Med in the 15th and 16th centuries. Thanks for the great video!
Hi, thanks for stopping by. Rhodes is a great suggestion! I'll look into it as I start getting more into Greek history. Thanks and stay safe!
I used to have a Archaeology magazine article that told how around 4000 yrs ago Cyprus ( before Phoenicians and Greeks there ) was like an exotic ancient island subculture as they lived to be disconnected from anything happening in the mainland .. was intentional ,not accidental . They were intelligent to have a well planned subcultural civilization there . If they seemed primitive it was only because they were richly exotic compared to changes on the mainlands . They in this sense are maybe like an ancient partly remote island people like the south Pacific islands were once more so before being modernized . This is in ways very unique with Cyprus in those old ,old days. Really think this thru to see why that can be . Cyprus had it's own unique culture , broke off from mainland , once ! In these things I wish I can obtain extreme deep details . I don't settle for surface like sensations and do go way beyond that . I love topics and curiously search hard if I'm able .. beyond what Cy does it appears .
This is such an exciting topic and I don’t think I’ve ever seen it covered before on RUclips, excellent video as usual Cy, keep up dude you’re doing a great job!
Thanks so much for the feedback, I really appreciate it! Cyprus is a really unique place...small, but I feel that in a sense a microcosm of the Mediterranean world, at least in ancient times. All of the major regional powers had an interest as well as influence there, so I thought that'd be interesting to explore further in a short video. Glad you liked it!
More to come soon, stay tuned and thanks for stopping by!
I've recently stumbled upon this hidden gem of a channel and am currently binge watching everything. Tbh, this content is way too underrated. Keep up the great work!
So many kingdoms for such a small island ..it is of great interest to me as it's where my roots are and where I currently live .Would love to know more as there is so little information on RUclips about Ancient Cyprus .
The history of Cyprus is much older. In fact, the first recorded naval battles happened here between the Hittites and Cyprians/Cypriots. There were two naval battles and one land battle in which the Hittites won and took over Cyprus.
You should check his previous video on the topic, where he focuses on Cypriot history at large, not kingdoms.
It goes even further. The oldest archaeological site on Cyprus is Choirokoitia. Dated to about 7000 BC
I love Herodotus. The Histories is like listening to a crazy old man tell the history of his town.
Yeah he's a great storyteller. One of my favorites (and more bizarre) is the one about Cambyses' army using dead cats to defeat the Egyptians... when I first read that, I was like "what??"
As always, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it!
Excellent, especially fro the rarity of the subject and the detail it was given to each of the cities.
Thanks so much for the feedback, I really appreciate it!
Oh I'm so happy to have found this video! It's so frustratingly hard to find information on ancient Cypriot History!
What I absolutely love about ancient sources is how wild they get. Great inspiration for fantasy writing!
For sure, thanks for watching!
Cy thank you! made my Monday night better 🙋♀️🌵
Haha I'm aiming for at least 2-3 better nights/days/afternoons. Thanks so much, glad you liked it!
Hey Cy another great video man im so happy your keeping up with the channel you really satisfy my history addiction. Anyway I wana ask if you will ever do a history series on Phonecia they are probably one of if not the most important yet heavenly underrated ancient civilizations. I'm sure you aware of that i need not futher explain!
Oh for sure, working on two projects for that... one short video and another podcast series... a lot of history for Canaan coming soon... thanks for the suggestion! Hope all is well on your end and stay tuned!
@@HistorywithCy im great thanks! I will !
Super informative!!
Thanks for posting !
Thank you for stopping by, I really appreciate it! Glad you liked it!
City on Cyprus: Exists
Earthquakes: I'm about to end this man's whole career
Haha so true, so many great cities destroyed by earthquakes... and other great ones by volcanoes.
Ultimately, looks like nature wins...
Thank you very much for your research and effort, Cy! I used to work in Cyprus. Paphos is still referred to "old City and a new city" areas, due to the earth quake. Curium, further north, on the coast, has an ancient ampatheater, where they still have Shakspearian plays. I was also in Cyprus during a serious earth quake in the mid 90's. It was pretty scary. You said there was a ruler, named "Kipre-on" (Spelled phonetically)? "Kipre-o" is how Greeks refer to the island today. In Greek, "Kipre-o" means "Copper." Thanks again!
Great video! 👌👌
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
I follow all the major history channels on youtube how come i am just coming across this? RUclips needs to update their algorithm 😅 Great video! Instant subscribe.
Thanks so much, glad you found it! More to come for sure, stay tuned and thanks again!
Thank you for the vid. Please do a video on ancient Egyptian in Cyprus
Amathus wasnt phoenician, it was eteocypriot (indigenous cypriot). It just had good relationships with the phoenicians.
Can you please send a link regarding the Eteocypriot cities
Interesting. How would we be sure one way or the other?
Great video. Interesting fact, Citium was the birthplace of Zeno of Citium who was the founder of Stoicism which was the most influential philosophical school of the Roman Empire up until Christianity.
Oh interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing and for stopping by, I really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Thanks Cy! Always coming through with the interesting topics
That was some sweet revenge that Amathus exacted upon Onesilos 🐝
Thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it! Yeah, Onesilos is an interesting guy...one of the many who appear in Herodotus' work. Not sure I totally believe the final part of his story, but interesting nevertheless.
I think one day I'll do a series on my favorite stories from Herodotus... thanks again!
@@HistorywithCy I just want to believe that story...so I will
Its slightly more believable than Herodotus story about gold digging ants (and who doesn't believe that)
m D stanton m D stanton Exactly what you are supposed to think! See, the Ants knew they couldn’t get away with being completely unnoticed forever, even if the personal stealth research program was successful. So what to do? For an ancient, sentient, and cunning hive-mind like the ants, you do this: (1) activate your network of agents; in this case it is the countless billions of the ants’ more mundane (and, frankly, quite primitive) cousins living (literally) under the feet of civilization. (2) use them to keep track of anyone suspected of learning about the ants. (3) similarly, identify and track the very rare intellectual who seems likely to actually write down things like “history” or “travelers tales”. (4) Then, through millions of small but additive little actions, instigated by the ants but carried out by other, unwitting animals and even humans ... slowly and gently influence both groups to ensure they always come together. This ensures that anytime a “Herodotus” arises and writes a book, it is so full of fantastic and unbelievable stories, including the “one about gold-digging ants”, it os lost amid the crowd.
They are smart, those gold-digging ants. And must have upped their game over the centuries; I mean you don’t even *hear* about supposed sightings anymore. And I can’t prove it, but when “viral marketing” was invented ... I thought the deviousness and misdirection was just a little too familiar.
Also the gold market is periodically flooded with huge amounts of gold bullion by anonymous, digital brokers working for what always turn out to be shell companies for non-existent gold mines in Greenland.
......."and being Herodotus one has to take it with a large grain of salt"...........LOL......or perhaps the entire Nevada salt flats......lovin this channel........great work as usual.Thanks tons.(And NOT in salt.)
Or prehaps thats the size entire old carthage site
Hahaha that's funny. He's got some really great stories, I'll give him that. I also believe that his intention was to be more or less honest, but when you add his propensity to exaggerate along with all the hearsay he was hearing, well, I think it's natural that the truth would get convoluted in his writings.
As always, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it!
@@HistorywithCy more than a pleasure to stop by and comment if for no other reason than to boost youre engagement for the algorithm so you can get the subs you deserve least i can do to repay you for your fantastic content given im flat broke and cant donate to Paetreon really
Edit: wow you don't seem to have a Paetreon that I can find which given the work in these vids seems unfair. Whilst I said I was broke it wouldn't be much but to encourage you Cy if you launch one I would be honoured to be one of your first supporters but 7-10$ a month is the most i can afford so it would be more symbolic than anything
@@Eamonshort1 Wow, thanks so much for the kind words and feedback, comments like this really inspire me to put out more stuff for you all. It's funny, you're not the first to offer to help fund the show via patreon, paypal or even bitcoin (Lol I don't even have a bitcoin wallet). Honestly, I'm so flattered that people would pay for this stuff and maybe yeah, I'll set up the respective accounts one day. I don't know though what extra perks I could offer... I like having all the content available for everyone...that's kind of my purpose, to provide historical content that many around the world may not have access to. I'll definitely think about it because most of the other channels do have patreon accounts so I guess it's become a standard way to fund their channels.
I did have this one idea of having book giveaways and other prizes for viewers, and maybe patreon or other sources could fund that. Let's see...
Honestly though, the greatest way that viewers can support the channel is by watching and liking the videos, which honestly I'm more than grateful that people like you are doing. THAT means the world to me.
Thanks again for the support, I'll definitely look further into it. All the best!
@@HistorywithCy History with Cy a book give away would legit be a good idea and also i dont have much to give to my fav creators so id rather give it to someone who puts in the work but doesnt get the credit they deserve. And yeah whilst i have been thouroghly flattered to have you reply to me really ive just been commenting on things because it boosts you in the algo and also i know atleast 3 of your subs are mates of mine i got in because i cant imagine how much passion you must have to do all this and not ask for anything. I dont know about patreon but i know i could easily help you set up a paypal.me for people who want to give one off donations when they can tou chuck in your discription with your social media info and stuff and let people know at the end of each vid its in the description
Edit: also it was me complaining about the audio on old eps and you went right to saying youd fix it which takes effort so I feel like i owe ya, honestly right now its 430am in australia in nearing 48 hours without sleep and channels like yours keep me sane so id rather go one less coffee a week and kick a few bucks in but again i know it wouldnt be much but more to prove to you there are people out here who would do that and id rather have that set up for so that when you reach 100k subs youre not forced to do raid shadowlands sponsorships (he said only half joking) also i cant help set up bitcoin wallet because its locked to a physical computer but its pretty easy just annoying that itll take up to a couple of days for the blocks to sink with your wallet
Much later on parts of Cyprus were ruled by the Egyptians -a fact few people know -and what I mean by "Egyptian" is the Greco-Macedonian Ptolemaic dynasty which ruled Egypt from about 300 BC to about 50BC (approx.) There are tombs in Cyprus from this era.The Ptolemaic Egyptians also ruled substantial parts of the mainland opposite Cyprus (the region of Cilicia)When Mark Antony met Cleopatra on that famous golden barge as described by Shakespeare it was not,I believe, on the river Nile but on the river Pyramos which is in the region of Cilicia(south east Turkey)Their fleet was also based on some of the Aegean islands like Cos.
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, I really appreciate it. Yes, that's very true... I think I mentioned some of the Ptolemies who were active on the island. More to come, thanks again for stopping by and stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy The reason I know is because I am A BAROQUE opera buff -especially the operas of George Frederick Handel -one of his operas TOLOMEO is set in Cyprus during this era.I have a DVD of the opera and it has been performed recently -there are portions of this opera on RUclips featuring the sensational young Polish counter tenor Jakob Orlinski.
Great video and very informative about one of the most important islands in the Mediterranean! At 9:13, you mention that Ktion was established by Phoenicians who called it "Qart Hadasht." However, that was the name the Phoenicians gave to Carthage, located in modern day Tunisia. Carthage = Qart Hadasht meaning "New City."
Hi, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it! Yes, you are correct... there were actually a few "Kart Hadashts" that have been discovered. Carthage is the most famous one but I've read that even the city of Cartagena in Spain was also once called Kart Hadasht. I supposed there could have been multiple cities with the same name, just like today we have London, UK as well as London, Ontario in Canada. Just my thoughts... thanks so much for the comment, I really appreciate it!
History with Cy thanks for clarifying!
Thank you. From school I had noticed that the number of ancient kingdoms varied. It is good to know the sources that list them. I noticed that you mention the island was known as Alassia, but there is not a city or a kingdom with that name. It would be very interesting to watch also a video on the ancient names of Cyprus. From what I remember Makaria and Aeria are some of them...
Thank you Cy. Very informative. 👏👏👏👏
Thanks, really appreciate it! More to come on the Mediterranean, stay safe!
Awesome!
You see.
Knowing that the island of Cyprus was HEAVELY influenced by the Phoenicians, gives the whole "Aphrodite was born in the shores of Cyprus" myth a far greater hystorical and anthropological meaning.
Aphrodite is just an ellenised version of the goddess Astarte.
Wich eventualy reached the shores of Greece and gained a new identity.
Prior to this, there was no mention of the goddess in pre-classical greece.
So, the myth of the birth of Aphrodite is literaly a miticization of real hystorical events that signified the union of two cultures into one.
HOW FASCINATING IS THAT!!!!???
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I LOVE when ancient cultures do this kind of stuff.
It makes the myths feel more real.
And makes us, by extention, more closer to those ancient times on an emotional level.
Maybe it's just me.
But these ordeals make me feel all fuzzy inside.
Haha, no it's not just you... I feel the same when when I make such connections, though I hadn't with regard to what you just brought up. It's one of those light bulb or eureka moments.
As always, thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it!
@@HistorywithCy
Nah.
Thank you for keeping this whole thing up.
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Cool. Now do Dionysus. Lol
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Dionysus is actualy a native greek god.
He was worshipped even prior to the classical era of greek history, during the bronze age.
He is one of the older gods, his name was found in a text written in linear B, alongside other gods like Poseidon and Persephone.
Hironicaly, the greeks decided to claim that he is a forein god because they grew ashamed of it, kinda.
His cult was insane, and greek moralists of the classical era were not into that.
Why did they claim he was a forein god?
Ever noticed that all the weird practices, monsters, etc in greek mithology live outside of mainland Greece?
That is because the Greeks viewed themselves as the bringers of culture, superior to all other cultures.
They were not racists.
They were just...
Meh...
Look.
Ancient greek cities barely managed to relate with each other.
How do you think they would relate to other cultures.
They did not understand them.
The world was smaller back then.
And the average greek never met an egyptian, or a jew, or a phoenician.
They only heared of them, and the rest were stereotipes and fiction.
So yeah.
Dionysus was creepy, and insane, and many other things.
So they claimed he was a forein god cause they felt better this way.
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His character changed a lot thruought history tho.
Pre classical Dionysus was a whole different beast than classic Dionysus.
Still an interesting story tho.
Makes you think about the ancient greeks mindset and view of the world.
You're way wrong aphrodite is a native Greek and anatolian Goddess with little similarities to astarte other than love deities. She is ever present in both predark age Greece via before 1000 bce and strong mycenae era 2500 bce to 1700 bce. You ar ees way wrong it's the opposite astarte got influence from aphrodite instead. You got it backwards wards my misinformed friends.
As a Cypriot, I appreciate this a LOT
Cyprus has such an interesting history, which we learn about quite well in school
About the Kingdoms, about Hellenization, even about the Cypro-Minoan and way later the Cypriot syllabary based on the Linear A
We also learn that, while not Greek, Cyprus spoke Greek, as well as its own Eteocypriot until Hellenization
We also learn of the lesser but still true Phoenician influence
Of course we didn't learn it under some of these names because it's too complicated but still
We learn about Onesilos who is a legend here, and I live in a village whose football team is named after him
Although, we don't know much about the minor city states like Soloi and Idalio, we learn some stuff about Salamina, Paphos, Kition and maybe Amathus, Lidra (because Nicosia) and Tamassos (because Copper) and Lapethos, which was quote important and you forgot about it
So, thank you for your work
Visiting Odessa in Ukraine I thought I'd stop over and have a look at a local museum. To my astonishment, it had ancient artefacts from Cyprus, my country. Cited in the video are exhibits from foreign museums. But none from a local one, if I'm not mistaken. From the Metropolitan Museum in New York to the British Museum, to the Louvre and beyond. Even the Swedes "shop lifted" in the 30's ancient pieces of art packed in 600 crates. Licensed by the British. Not much evidence eh? Of course, removed and scattered, much of which sitting in basements.
But I wonder. Is it possible that ancients manuscripts have been stolen also? It can't be only statues, statuettes, pottery and such stuff. Further. It seems that earthquakes were very devastating back then. That is the reason given commonly in such like videos. Well listen. The "earthquake" was one. And it came by decrees. The memory had to be erased for the new player in town to take root. So the island of beauty became the island of "saints". The heritage of this island is predominantly Greek. The Trojan War took place much earlier than cited in "history" books today.
If it is "troubled" history you are looking for, look no further than the Mediterranean basin and surrounding lands.
Alexander was not a conqueror. If he was looking for lands why not Europe? Because Europe was already Macedonia. His expedition was global, stopped short by treason and assassination.
08:00 Had to replay it, because you said it so matter-of-factly that I dismissed it the first time. Then I was like “I’m sorry, what now” LOL Your pronunciation skills have unlocked a trophy in Epic Level Historian 😁
I live in Tamassos and I have ancient markings in my house which was once a palace. It was Called Tamesi in the Assyrian Age. The greatest armies ruled here. Someone from another dimension is writing out a message for me............will history repeat itself?
Nice video. ❤️
Thank you!
Nambo re
Ise apo thn Kupro?
Are you also from Cyprus
I'm British Cypriot
herodotus is litterally more believable than 90% of modern historians and journalists
What is the comparison of Cyprus City kingdoms to Aegean Kingdoms?
Wait, are photos at 11:59 by the Segal, of Steam Spy, Gameplay and Epic Games fame? What a coincidence of true.
It infuriates me to see all those ancient artifacts that are in museums outside of cyprus
Right!! 😣
sunday 1 august dear doctor milti ioannides you would love this history of cyprus/ thank you for taking me to nicosia museum/ i hope they start to show this in their museum to help promote the island amazing history
Thank you for educating people on my countries history🇨🇾💪🏽
My pleasure, thank you for stopping by, really appreciate it! I'll do more on Cyprus in future, especially during medieval times. Thanks again and stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy You too!🇨🇾💪🏽
I wish you would do the Balkans. Lots of history to be uncovered
Were they even kingdoms? Some of them would have less than 10k people, they are basically tribes and it's doubtful their central settlement was even urban.
Do you have plans to make a video on Sicily?
Yes, Sicily and Sardinia! Probably later on in the summer though.. Thanks for stopping by and stay safe!
much more preferable than today's arrangement
Cy you need look to see that many want existing ( there is if you look well ) possible lengthy details on Cyprus of over 5000 years ago since there is a large pre-Greek and pre-Phoenician story of intently well exotic and unique island culture stuff existing totally before later connections to the mainland . My point is there were exotic island peoples like today's recent New Guinea and Melanesia style things paralleling the fact if almost left unreached island cultures of spears and arrows or darts or rough wood shields or hunting bands and so on . Please try to elaborate in full length on such things ..somethings are for the simple pleasure and enjoyment of history .. not a politics that only allows certain stuff said . Tell it fully in detail leaving not a jot or tittle out . Just saying . These very ,very old things are immensely incredible to discover and muse and think upon .
Next time , give an estimate of the population of each kingdom , it gives some context
I swear man the whole countries history is just a list of ppl/kingdoms that invaded it
Informative, but few pictures, images, and no illustrations make watching tedious.
ακριβώς στην ώρα Cyrus και εξαιρετική μουσική από τον τρόπο
Σας ευχαριστώ!
Max Muller have identified Kittim with the land of Hatti (Khatti), as the Hittite Empire was known. and Kittim (Hebrew: כִּתִּים, alternately transliterated as Chittim or Cethim) in the genealogy of Genesis 10 in the Hebrew Bible, is the son of Javan, the grandson of Japheth, and Noah's great-grandson.
I don't see the Turks in any of this history. Oh, I see, they came thousands of years later and have no claim to the rich history of Cyprus.
hhahahaah chad turks
Based and Redpilled
Exactly!
Those Turks Cypriot are friendly with Kurdish and they prefer marriage with Kurdish than Turkish and I as Kurdish I was meeting a lots of Turk Cypriot and one of them saying the turk Cypriot are Kurdish origin and converted to turk during Othman conquest and they was Alavi-Shia Islam and there are no historical evidence to show when they was placed there or by which empire , however we Kurdish not considered them as Kurdish and we don’t have any historical evidence showing Kurdish migration or part of land in Cyprus but if Greek or Cyprus has any historical evidence about it it’s time to kick out turkey and united island plus first mistrial government for those Kurdish origin,
Thanx CY, but you didn't say anything about Lapethos.
and greek and latin?
You should do mdittrenian in minuties
But there are 12 bits on the map not 10?
needs better audio
Hi, thanks for the feedback... do you mean that the voice isn't clear or the music is too loud? Any feedback would be great so that I can make these better in future. Thanks!
@@HistorywithCy that person never responded, but maybe turn down the gain, set your peaks lower. Whatever it was, your vid on Sumerian kings last week sounded much better.
Back then the most patriotic Greeks were on Cyprus and to this day the most patriotic Greeks are still on Cyprus
Also Evagoras was one of the greatest kings to rule the island abd he also went beyond it too
were these guy supply alexander reserve? on his way to india
onesilos was a rebel lost his head but his idea spread
History with CY can you making video about Cyprus people origins for both Turk Cypriot and Greek Cypriot, I was been told by Turk Cypriot them origin is Kurdish not Turkish please
[oblagatory “Aphrodite is also Ishtar” comment]
it not his head but his ideas were sweet as honey
Etruscan history next?🤔
Hi, thanks for stopping by! I actually did one some time back, but I might do an extended podcast on the subject soon, perhaps this summer. Thanks for the suggestion!
I didn't know that I live in Kition.
Greek history.
Are you Middle eastern?
American, though I have some eastern roots, yes. Thanks for stopping by!
did cyprus gave the pheonecian the alphabet?
Subtitles need review to properly represent proper names. "Ar sinewy" 《thewish? ;)》
Ledrai a star Fort.
this is where sea war fare weren born
and were pread like wild bee
12 Cypriot Kingdoms
there is a city with my surname cool
Phoenician did not stay long in Cyprus.They return back to Tyre after 70 years the same years as the Jews return to their homeland from from the Babylon.
Seems greeks fighting between them.
most of them were greek brought back kepab to greek on a war stick
Ancient history of Mongolia
One day for sure...thanks for the suggestion!
Did a Ancient DNA with other Greek Cypriot s coming out most DNA as ancient isralites cannanite tombs from Israel after death of Solomon match my DNA
The Canannites ,before they were overran by the Semitic tribes ,coming out of Mesopotamia,Syria were Greeks from Crete and some Agean islands.after this time they were mixed with the invaders.
@@tassiek2450 The Canaanites were Greek ?! I'm curious to know were u know this from ! Now Canaanites are basically half Caucasian as shown recently, the other half being the inhabitants of the Levant at that time (still unknown) ! Doubt it would be Greek since that would make the Canaanites purely non Semitic (which is not true) !
Though Greeks & Canaanites(Phoenicians) did intermingle ! Many Phoenicians lived in Greece & vice versa (which is why u'd find a bit of each's DNA in the other)
@@primatalogico1162 the Cannnanites you refer about ,yes I agree with you .they were Half Caucasian or not even half..but the first colonizers to the land were Cretans( greeks) and from the Agean basin.the were overran eventually by the invading semetic tribes from Mesopotamia,Syria and my assumption even northern Arabia.most were exterminatedthe rest were forcibly or willingly assimilated..my assumption.
I'm Greek Cyprian and from Cyprus, Greece. Herodotus told history way better than you, indeed. All you talk about is Persian. Persian this. Persian that. Persian. Persian. Persian.
It's not Cyprians
It's Cypriots
It's both
@@universalspaceexpeditioner8259 it's not, I'm half Cypriot, I know my shit
Kyprians is actually a more accurate romanization